[PICTURE] All India Muslim Personal Law Board terms reciting “Vande Mataram" in schools and official functions as unconstitutional

[The Bald Eagle]

All India Muslim Personal Law Board terms reciting “Vande Mataram” in schools and official functions as unconstitutional

The central government’s notification making it mandatory to recite all verses of “Vande Mataram” in schools and official functions is unconstitutional, against religious freedom, secular values, and contrary to the Supreme Court’s Judgment. The song contains references to the worship and veneration of Durga and other deities, which directly contradicts the beliefs of Muslims; therefore, it is entirely unacceptable for them. Muslims worship only one God; Allah, without partner, and Islam does not permit any form of associating partners with God. Indian courts have also held that the many verses of song are inconsistent with secular values and have restricted their recitation. Therefore, AIMPLB demands that the central government should immediately withdraw this notification; otherwise, the All India Muslim Personal Law Board will challenge it in court.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021903867848667208

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Commiseration with @Rajdeep @uppercut @cricketjoshila

 

[Champ_Pal]

Translation of VandeMataram in English.

Official Two Stanzas (National Song)
The first two stanzas are primarily used as the national song:

• Vande Mataram (I bow to thee, Mother)
• Sujalaam, suphalaam, malayaja sheetalaam (Richly-watered, richly-fruited, cool with the winds of the south)
• Shasyashyaamalaam, Maataram (Dark with the crops of the harvests, the Mother)
• Shubhrajyotsna pulakitayaamini (Her nights rejoicing in the glory of the moonlight)
• Phullakusumita drumadala shobhiniim (Her lands clothed beautifully with her trees in flowering bloom)
• Suhaasiniim sumadhura bhaashiniim (Sweet of laughter, sweet of speech)
• Sukhadam varadam, Maataram (The Mother, giver of boons, giver of bliss)

Not sure what the objection is for Muslims. No where it says it is related to any Hindu Goddess or takes out the name.

But but we are oppressred saar!!

 

[Suleiman]

Same Hindus or closeted hindus who cry about “oppression” in GCC countries will have no issues with this… any song / poem talking about bowing down to anyone but God is already out of the conversation as a Muslim. Seems like this has verses in it about bowing down to something.

They like to cry about how Mughals did this or that to them, but I don’t recall them being forced to recite Islamic centric poetry or whatnot at the start of their day, doing so would go against Islam anyway because you can’t force someone to do so.

 

[rpant_gabba]

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why? AIPAC has not authority on laws. They are nothing more than an unlawful militia which should be dealt with harshly

 

[The Bald Eagle]

why? AIPAC has not authority on laws. They are nothing more than an unlawful militia which should be dealt with harshly

Wow and any thoughts on RSS??

 

[Local.Dada]

Wow and any thoughts on RSS??

Social organization. Secular and nationalistic and always on the frontlines during natural calamities etc.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Wow and any thoughts on RSS??

Dude, I’m an atheist. I don’t suffer religious nutters. End of story.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Dude, I’m an atheist. I don’t suffer religious nutters. End of story.

Waiting anxiously for your special phrase or words for RSS....I will love quoting you on that in future

 

[rpant_gabba]

Waiting anxiously for your special phrase or words for RSS....I will love quoting you on that in future

If they propose religious imposition, yeah, I’ll deal with as harshly.

Not sure why you are deflecting to RSS, when the issue is Muslims can’t seem to live in secular societies

 

[uppercut]

All India Muslim Personal Law Board terms reciting “Vande Mataram” in schools and official functions as unconstitutional

The central government’s notification making it mandatory to recite all verses of “Vande Mataram” in schools and official functions is unconstitutional, against religious freedom, secular values, and contrary to the Supreme Court’s Judgment. The song contains references to the worship and veneration of Durga and other deities, which directly contradicts the beliefs of Muslims; therefore, it is entirely unacceptable for them. Muslims worship only one God; Allah, without partner, and Islam does not permit any form of associating partners with God. Indian courts have also held that the many verses of song are inconsistent with secular values and have restricted their recitation. Therefore, AIMPLB demands that the central government should immediately withdraw this notification; otherwise, the All India Muslim Personal Law Board will challenge it in court.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021903867848667208

and then you will also go on to cry about why Muslims are treated harshly in India ... right ? I mean why are you expecting anything else other than being treated harshly if this is the level of OPEN bigotry that Muslims proudly and openly exhibit on a daily basis in India ?

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[uppercut]

If they propose religious imposition, yeah, I’ll deal with as harshly.

Not sure why you are deflecting to RSS, when the issue is Muslims can’t seem to live in secular societies

The answer to that is very simple: "Mullah ki doud masjid tak"

 

[cricketjoshila]

Commiseration with @Rajdeep @uppercut @cricketjoshila

Commiseration with @Rajdeep @uppercut @cricketjoshila

For what?its a ngo n9t a constitutional body.

Giving itself a name doesn't give constitutional status

 

[cricketjoshila]

If they propose religious imposition, yeah, I’ll deal with as harshly.

Not sure why you are deflecting to RSS, when the issue is Muslims can’t seem to live in secular societies

Secularism and Muslims don't go side by side, especially in the sub continent, Nehru and gandhi to be blamed for this, same Muslims will go and sing god save the king, because no one will listen to their objections there, just ask them to comply or leave, Nehru the idiot created these issues with his sickularism

 

[DeadlyVenom]

if I lived in India I'd have problems singing this Hindu song.

If I wanted to be Hindu I'd become one. Not have it imposed on me through stealth.

 

[Local.Dada]

If they propose religious imposition, yeah, I’ll deal with as harshly.

Not sure why you are deflecting to RSS, when the issue is Muslims can’t seem to live in secular societies

They don’t. Most RSS people are actually atheists and socialists. Their extremist stands usually are a product of hyper -nationalism like slapping someone for not saying Bharat mata ki jai or singing Vande Mataram etc . However even these acts never come from RSS directly but usually from some affiliated fringe groups that maybe harass some chapri couple on Valentine’s Day or raid some unofficial disco party in a small town ,saying it’s not our culture etc. That’s about it.

They actually do gather voters and do ground work for right wing affiliated parties like primarily the BJP in elections but then again they have had issues with the BJP in the past like 2004 or even in 2024 which impacted BJP’s performance.

A Pakistani can be illiterate and be excused about these kind of basic facts and regurgitate the same chooran as I do notice most have their own crutch words but they can no way be compared to any radical religious group lol.

Yeah they have some affiliated official or unofficial fringe groups than cause some nuisance once in a while but again it never has anything to do with religion. If you visit or stay in India, go yourself and find out. Their office has no religious material etc either.

I am getting a dejavu because I have repeated this on the forum in the past but I guess it goes ahead over most people’s head as they want to stick to the chooran they like.

 

[Local.Dada]

if I lived in India I'd have problems singing this Hindu song.

If I wanted to be Hindu I'd become one. Not have it imposed on me through stealth.

Do you know or have issues singing the British National anthem?. That should an interesting point of debate. “God save the queen” I think right?. Gramps (with all due respect) caught the train in 47, so you are off the hook from singing Vande Mataram don’t stress.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Do you know or have issues singing the British National anthem?. That should an interesting point of debate. “God save the queen” I think right?. Gramps (with all due respect) caught the train in 47, so you are off the hook from singing Vande Mataram don’t stress.

No issues with that and it's not mandatory.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Same Hindus or closeted hindus who cry about “oppression” in GCC countries will have no issues with this… any song / poem talking about bowing down to anyone but God is already out of the conversation as a Muslim. Seems like this has verses in it about bowing down to something.

They like to cry about how Mughals did this or that to them, but I don’t recall them being forced to recite Islamic centric poetry or whatnot at the start of their day, doing so would go against Islam anyway because you can’t force someone to do so.

Bowing down to motherland. Not to any human. It’s called Nationalism. Not sure why there is so much stomach upset for any group?
Such insecure people.