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Sarfaraz is a genuis tactically and understands the game better than anyone in Pakistan.
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They already have a decent enough bowling attack which should only improve with the addition of Hasaranga.
Now that Guptill is back in form, they need Jason Roy to start playing the way he used to.
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[MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] my only problem with Sarfaraz was his shouting and not allowing his bowlers to think for themselves and of course the fact that he stopped working on his fitness. Being a genius tactically is not everything in cricket, it is how you manage your squad and give confidence to your players and get the most out of their limited talents.
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Yes. Maybe he did become a bit too overconfident
But today he was perfect with his attitude and intensity. He was given a lifeline by the Guptil and Iftikhar partnership, and he was adamant to defend that score.
His keeping to Nawaz and Qais was brilliant
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and Umar Akmal as well.png "Apology :apology")
Replace with who though? Hafeez?
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I will take Hafeez any day over your favourite Umar Akmal. At least Hafeez has a brain to think and can bowl a bit as well.
Don't think that it is easy for me to digest the fact that Amir, Butt, Akmal and Asif threw their careers away. Just imagine what Pakistan team could have been if these guys actually cared about playing for their country.
I still think that there is no better bowler than Amir in our country skill wise, but talent is not everything.
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Also I think Iftikhar is batting too low
He is the form man. They should have him bag at 3 or 4
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I wholeheartedly agree. Ifti the monster should be batting at 3 or 4. I think 4 is perfect for him.
You see a bit of politics there as well, may be it is Moin who wants Umar at 4
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lol, I was pleasantly surprised to see that myself.
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And back to the old question!
Is he suitable to lead Quetta Gladiators? Is there no other player in Pakistan who can do that?
Is he suitable to lead Quetta Gladiators? Is there no other player in Pakistan who can do that?
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Sarfaraz getting closer to a place on the 'players finished by PSL' table currently initially occupied by Umar Akmal and Sharjeel Khan.
India would have been a good spot for him to stake his claim in the ODI team but he is not getting close to any white ball sides unless there's a rapid turnaround.
India would have been a good spot for him to stake his claim in the ODI team but he is not getting close to any white ball sides unless there's a rapid turnaround.
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You wish that he’s close to finished lol
Still a proper batsman in comparison to Rizwan
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Rizwan is living rent free in your mind That you have to bring him and babar up in every non related thread
Multan is bossing the league whilst quetta languish at the bottom
Sarfraz is overated as captain tbh Looks like his players have had enough of his shouting and rude demeanour
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The average gets found out in PSL unfortunately.
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Sarfraz needs better players.
Those overseas players are failing every match.
Those overseas players are failing every match.
But surely all these captains at the PSL have a say in which overseas players their respective teams are signing/targeting.
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Sarfaraz is frankly burnt out. He has led the Franchise for 8 years and has lost the last 3 tournaments with Quetta not even qualifying for the play offs. Every professional organization knows when it is time for a change.
This is not just about Sarfaraz but also Moin needs to be booted out. The entire PSL Franchise and management staff needs a reboot.
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There are some red flags, but Sarfi has actually captained well on the field, in this PSL.
There are also some mitigating factors to their form. Hasaranga is a massive miss, especially given the balance of this side. He was a platinum pick, so he’s been missed.
Also, some of their overseas picks have just not performed. Roy is unrecognisable and Guptill is washed.
Where I do squarely place the blame on Sarfi (and Moin really) is the squad building. The middle order is much of a muchness, and it’s clear they just don’t trust their emerging players or pick good ones.
Moin’s strategy is to have 3-4 consistent overperforming players backed by 6 sidekicks and 1 passenger. Watson, KP, Roussow, etc have been those overperforming players. Nawaz, Roy, Guptill, Odean don’t have the consistency to be similarly good. And when your overperformers don’t do it, your team looks dire.
Then there’s the curse of ‘seniority’. Omair bin Youssuf is actually a good pick, but doesn’t get a game because of the seniority of Hafeez and Umar Akmal. Hafeez wasn’t even originally drafted!!
So, in closing, I don’t mind Sarfi as captain, but it’s Moin rather than Sarfi who needs replacing.
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I don’t see Sarfraz as reason for QG downfall the players simply aren’t good enough . Players like guptill and Roy playing 2 maiden overs is ridiculous. Then you have recycled akmal and hafeez .Nawaz been poor also .
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Team management along with the captain, needs to take the blame for bad selections (including draft etc)
Sarfaraz seems too distracted or taking too much advice to try and change batting order etc and ending up with spinning wheels as opposed to moving forward.
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Umar should bat at 3 he has played well a few times in the powerplay in the past he did get out early last time but was looking to attack the momentum is created early at the moment they are going too slow.
The last time Umar played a full season in 2019 they won the PSL Umar Sarfraz Nawaz and Hasnain were in that team.
Bangalzai needs to be dropped or moved at least from the top 3 position the openers need more consistency in the powerplay it’s a team game runs come easier with better batting at the beginning.
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I’m tired of fighting Umar, Sharjeel and Asif Ali’s corner
They have all been thoroughly disappointing.
Umars done fine recently few low scores to start here but had the best strike rate in last years PSL and was one of the best batsmen in the Pakistan Cup recently needs more game time once he plays 20 30 balls he’ll show his power game.
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Give the captaincy to Roy.
Replace Sarfaraz with Umar, at least he wont hide down the batting order.
Replace Sarfaraz with Umar, at least he wont hide down the batting order.
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Captained well today, was good with the bowling changes and field placements. However, bowlers could've used more support against Azam's rampage.
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A new born child could tell you that Sarfaraz batting as middle/lower order is pointless.
Sarfaraz knows he can’t chase 70-90 odd off 30-40 balls so why the fudge does he not come in as an opener.
Quetta need to be banned asap, they devalue the PSL, Nadeem Omar needs to be smacked in the head.
Sarfaraz knows he can’t chase 70-90 odd off 30-40 balls so why the fudge does he not come in as an opener.
Quetta need to be banned asap, they devalue the PSL, Nadeem Omar needs to be smacked in the head.
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Sarfarz Ahmed has really disappointed in this tournament. Seems so out of place in the list of captains - Really feel he is done now as captain.
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Players like Sarfaraz just ruin the whole vibe, this could’ve been a close game had Odean Smith came ahead of Sarfaraz.
We’ve been robbed of a good game by one individual.
We’ve been robbed of a good game by one individual.
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Even Dhoni would not have survived 3-4 dissapointing seasons with CSK as captain in a row.
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He is there because he has backing from the owners.
To get to play-offs from this position is going to need a miracle but let's see.
He is there because he has backing from the owners.
To get to play-offs from this position is going to need a miracle but let's see.
Let’s be consistent here. You babar supporters ignore his abysmal test record because apparently “there is no alternative” or “it’s the players’ fault not his.”
Well Sarfraz is still the only viable captain at QG and his team isn’t great either. Sarfraz is arguably still the best captain in the country.
Depends how 'well-in' you are with the owners and what their priorities are.
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Yes Sarfraz is displaying his captaincy credentials very well. Great job. Sarcasm ofcourse
For the record I want Babar out as well
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Remember the topic. PSL
Of course there are alternatives in league cricket. A foreign player can also be a captain.
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A foreign player should never ever ever captain a PSL franchise. Aside from the language barrier, there’s also an issue with the long term investment they have in a Franchise’s success.
People keep offering Nawaz as an alternative. Does Nawaz in any way come across as a captain? I think, realistically, there are 3 choices as captain, all risky. But this is where Quetta find themselves after the abject lack of succession planning.
1) Omair Bin Youssuf - He’s captained Sindh in the domestic season, and whenever I’ve seen him play, he’s come across as a calm, measured character. BUT, Quetta need to play him first, starting from the next game.
2) Saud Shakeel - He’s extensively captained both Sindh this season, and the Shaheens as well. Not an inspiring captain, albeit an experienced one. He would play in the Babar role as opener. Again, Quetta need to play him first though, starting from the next game.
3) Naseem Shah - He’s young and exuberant. Perhaps putting the extra responsibility on him will showcase some latent leadership abilities. Not many of us thought Shaheen was going to be a good captain, so no harm in giving Naseem a go.
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This is franchise cricket. Idea is to win games and the tournament.
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It’s also about winning long term. The franchises that develop their own players see long term rewards. And with local players there are never availability issues either. Look at Multan w/ Rizzy and Lahore w/ Shaheen. Those two players aren’t going anywhere else anytime soon.
Who're Omair Bin Yousuf and Saud Shakeel in the world of T20 cricket ??
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It’s not about who they are, it’s about who they can be. Quetta have done such a shoddy job of squad building, that all their local batsmen are on the older side. These two are relatively younger, and if played in the right spots, can contribute well. None of the other teams are going to give away their premium local talent, so it’s on Quetta to develop the little young local batting talent that they do have.
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Bruh, this is coming from someone who’s against Babar as a captain or even as a T20i player… Sarfaraz contributes absolutely nothing for the team. He gets very emotional when a fielder makes a mistake or a bowler isn’t bowling in the right area, but as soon as he comes out to bat, it’s like as if he’s already accepted defeat.
I came home around 5pm UK time, expecting to watch a tight match whilst munching on my salan, instead we got a borefest because the captain took 30 odd balls to get 40. Give those 30 balls to Odean and Ifthikar and they’d have easily gotten 70 from those 30 balls.
Give Roy or Nawaz the captaincy, bring in Umar as WK batsman.
Sarfaraz should be dropped if he’s not willing to open because that’s the only position that QG can get something out of him.
No one should have the right to play as a specialist captain, especially when you’re at the bottom of the table.
Saud Shakeel and Omair can't even get in the xi how you expecting them to get the captaincy.
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How well are the XI doing? Their only victory was against the second worst team, because of a worldie innings from Guptill.
They also played 4 of their games with Bangalzai, which is effectively playing with a man less. They’ve given Umar Akmal multiple chances etc etc.
My point is that they’ve consistently made mistakes when determining the playing XI. That’s less on Omair and Saud and more on Sarfi and Moin Khan. How much worse will they do? And if they do better, we can then have the captaincy conversation for next season.
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Yes you would be right but when there is no development happening and season after season is being lost then they need to inject something here.
A win for Quetta will be good for all the young players in the squad.
And how do you know if Omair came in to the xi that it will effectively be playing with a man less its not like he has outstanding t20 stats.
Sarfraz hasn't been that great agreed but the alternative is not Omair.
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Sarfraz is fine. He might be part of the problem but there's a lot wrong with the whole QG franchise. QG is the most sarkari looking team in PSL with seniority, jaan-pehchan, good relations sort of culture.
They need to boot out Moin and the entire management who is involved in picking the players in the auction and forming a team for every tournament.
QG has been a massive flop since their 2019 victory. Looks like it's going to be their 4th consecutive season of not making the play offs.
However I do think Aizaz Cheema is doing some good stuff at the lower level helping the bowlers with the basics. Naseem Shah has improved a lot.
They need to boot out Moin and the entire management who is involved in picking the players in the auction and forming a team for every tournament.
QG has been a massive flop since their 2019 victory. Looks like it's going to be their 4th consecutive season of not making the play offs.
However I do think Aizaz Cheema is doing some good stuff at the lower level helping the bowlers with the basics. Naseem Shah has improved a lot.
So only foreign players can be good captains?
For the record, it may do QG some good to replace the captain. I always maintain that if you lose enough matches, the captain needs to take the flak.
But I laugh when people don’t apply that standard across the board and if it’s someone they like then it becomes
“oh where are the alternatives”.
“Oh it’s the team’s fault, there are 10 other players playing you know”
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Shahid Afridi:
"I had a chat with Nadeem Omar before the season as well, that they should play Sarfaraz only as a player, so there is less pressure on him and he can enjoy his game"
"I had a chat with Nadeem Omar before the season as well, that they should play Sarfaraz only as a player, so there is less pressure on him and he can enjoy his game"
Where do you get these things from consistently which make no sense? Iftikhar is not No.3 bat he will refuse the position himself. By the same logic I can say Hasan Ali is misused should bat at 5.
Iftikhar role has been well defined in the alst few year but had LIMITED SUCCESS.
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There is no other option for captain in QG.
Who else will be captain?
Roy or Guptill are perhaps other options but its preferable it stays with a Pakistani tbh considering the lack of English skills with most of our players.
Who else will be captain?
Roy or Guptill are perhaps other options but its preferable it stays with a Pakistani tbh considering the lack of English skills with most of our players.
I would give it to Nawaz yes I know he's had a poor tournament but it's something out of the box.
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Personally its not a captaincy issue with regards to QG. Its just that their foreign players arent performing at all. Roy is not the same and Guptill has never performed in PSL. Tbh if u take captaincy away from Sarfraz hes not even a good enough batsman to play for a PSL team. I would rather they picked a young keeper whose not getting a chance in the PSL like Rohail Nazir. He would perhaps provide more with the bat.
Also, I think a better shout for captain would be Naseem Shah compared to Nawaz. Hes one of the few guys in this Pakistani line up who really takes up a challenge. Might be a bit premature but he has the mindset for it.
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Season is done for then barring a miracle so plan for next season re-sign AzamKhan
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Azam will be retained. No chance now
They'd be better off looking for a local player to captain the side. A Pakistani player - mainly due to communication with the likes of Hasnain and Naseem etc.
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Simon Doul criticized Sarfaraz for blaming his fellow batters and bowlers for the loss to Lahore Qalandars. He was very blunt and said Sarfaraz should look at himself in the mirror for his 28 runs of 29 deliveries knock as being one of the primary reasons for the loss.
Waqar Younis "Sarfaraz Ahmed has scored 25 off 25 balls with one boundary. A man who comes in at number 6 is supposed to be a finisher with a strike-rate of 150 or 160. Sarfaraz has a strike-rate of 100 today, you aren't going to win games like that"
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One more loss will virtually be the end for QG in PSL 8 - Can Sarfaraz survive another failed PSL campaign?
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Sarfraz getting replaced as captain will also likely mean his position in the team. Will be carried on in the squad for a year or so before not being drafted. Unless he makes one of his comebacks—which will also likely be short-term. Much like what happened on the national scene. It has been a bad run and all those decisions will make sense. But I feel a little bad for the guy considering his role in the successes both nationally and in the PSL before.
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I reckon they will include him as a non playing mentor next time.
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