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[PICTURES/VIDEO] ICC fines Virat Kohli but avoids ban for shoulder bumping Sam Konstas [Post Updated #82]

Bewal Express said:
Shoaib Akhtar was banned for swearing at Kallis, this is a physical altercation. This is a ban
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According to the ICC rulebook, “making inappropriate and deliberate physical contact with another player” is a Level 2 offence under chapter 42.1 of the MCC laws – Unacceptable Conduct.

Level 2: Fine of 50% to 100% of match fee and/or ban for 1 Test or 2 ODIs.


Kohli has only been fined 20%. total joke.

Then we have Indian posters and some naïve Pakistani ones asking innocently why has Bumrah's action never been called out.
 
Kohli should be more worried about his kids watching him on tv then the press taking photos of them
 
Ricky Ponting lashes out at Virat Kohli after the shoulder-bumping episode with Sam Konstas while speaking to the local Australian broadcasting media:

"Virat walked one whole pitch over to his right and instigated that confrontation. No doubt in my mind whatsoever."

"Fielders should be nowhere near the batsman at that stage. Every fieldsman on the ground knows where the batsmen will congregate and get together."

"It looked to me that Konstas looked up really late, wouldn't even know anyone is in front of him. That man on-screen there (Kohli) might have a few questions to answer."
 
FearlessRoar said:
Ricky Ponting lashes out at Virat Kohli after the shoulder-bumping episode with Sam Konstas while speaking to the local Australian broadcasting media:

"Virat walked one whole pitch over to his right and instigated that confrontation. No doubt in my mind whatsoever."

"Fielders should be nowhere near the batsman at that stage. Every fieldsman on the ground knows where the batsmen will congregate and get together."

"It looked to me that Konstas looked up really late, wouldn't even know anyone is in front of him. That man on-screen there (Kohli) might have a few questions to answer."
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Will Kohli do that to a West Indies cricketer? It may not end well for him.

He picked on a 19-year old kid like a coward.
 
ICC once again showing it's impotence when it comes to leadership. Kohli, for me deserves atleast a few matches ban.
 
RexRex said:
How many ? That looks nasty.
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I want to know that too.

Since ICC is only biased towards muh big bad evil India, I would expect them to atleast ban him for 2-3 months..would love to hear the actual answer from posters here..;)
 
Pakpak said:
According to the ICC rulebook, “making inappropriate and deliberate physical contact with another player” is a Level 2 offence under chapter 42.1 of the MCC laws – Unacceptable Conduct.

Level 2: Fine of 50% to 100% of match fee and/or ban for 1 Test or 2 ODIs.


Kohli has only been fined 20%. total joke.

Then we have Indian posters and some naïve Pakistani ones asking innocently why has Bumrah's action never been called out.
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Absolutely. This shows how pathetic the ICC is. And what's interesting is how the commies tried to play it down until Michael Vaughan actually said what happened. And these guys ask why the commies haven't spoken up on Bumrah.
 
Bewal Express said:
Should Kohli have been banned?
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Nope, what he did is wrong but not a bannable offence. As usual people asking for capital punishment for petty theft just because an Indian is involved. Aussies are not snow flakes. What happened to Aussie aggression? They don’t seem to like the brown guy answering back in the same language. Do they?
 
Local.Dada said:
Nope, what he did is wrong but not a bannable offence. As usual people asking for capital punishment for petty theft just because an Indian is involved. Aussies are not snow flakes. What happened to Aussie aggression? They don’t seem to like the brown guy answering back in the same language. Do they?
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So physically attacking someone deliberately isn't a ban🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Bewal Express said:
So physically attacking someone deliberately isn't a ban🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Well the same player also shouted "cheats" (or something to that affect) through the stump mic and didn't get any ban for it so what's the issue with barging a 19 year old kid on debut?
 
IMMY69 said:
If we didn't have our views and couldn't post them on a (Pakistan) site, then what exactly is the point of PP?
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sorry what? You can post whatever you want, who said anything different. Are you saying, we need to let go and not make a counter to a point we find ridiculous, dumb or toxic when it is made by Pakistanis because it is a forum run by Pakistanis? What are you trying to say.
 
Local.Dada said:
Nope, what he did is wrong but not a bannable offence. As usual people asking for capital punishment for petty theft just because an Indian is involved. Aussies are not snow flakes. What happened to Aussie aggression? They don’t seem to like the brown guy answering back in the same language. Do they?
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So, as an andhbhakt, can you no longer distinguish between responding verbally and physically shoving an opposing player? Why is your acceptance of mistakes always wrapped in excuses, caveats, and justifications? You admit he was wrong, yet you continue to defend him as if your ego is at stake. It's time to make up your mind. :inti
 
Local.Dada said:
sorry what? You can post whatever you want, who said anything different. Are you saying, we need to let go and not make a counter to a point we find ridiculous, dumb or toxic when it is made by Pakistanis because it is a forum run by Pakistanis? What are you trying to say.
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No but what is the point of saying "cricket is not run on your wishful thinking"? Where does that take the debate?
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
So, as an andhbhakt, can you no longer distinguish between responding verbally and physically shoving an opposing player? Why is your acceptance of mistakes always wrapped in excuses, caveats, and justifications? You admit he was wrong, yet you continue to defend him as if your ego is at stake. It's time to make up your mind. :inti
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I don’t endorse violence personally but if someone gets payback I am alright. That is human nature. Aussies have bullied Asian teams for a long time and good to see our very own give it back on their own turf. No big deal. Only some Pakistani fans and one self-proclaimed Indian seems to be up in arms about it lol. He didn’t carry a machine gun, just showed a young kind what big leagues mean. No big deal.
 
Local.Dada said:
I don’t endorse violence personally but if someone gets payback I am alright. That is human nature. Aussies have bullied Asian teams for a long time and good to see our very own give it back on their own turf. No big deal. Only some Pakistani fans and one self-proclaimed Indian seems to be up in arms about it lol. He didn’t carry a machine gun, just showed a young kind what big leagues mean. No big deal.
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Only a handful of Indian fans and one self-proclaimed supporter abroad can celebrate Kohli's unnecessary aggression toward a 19-year-old debutant. The funny thing is, you have already admitted that Kohli was wrong. It's even more amusing to see you using the Aussie vs. Asian teams' narrative to justify this. Weren't you the one claiming that the India vs. Australia rivalry is bigger than India vs. Pakistan? Or was that someone else? Why are you bringing Asian teams into this now? To gain some support? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Only a handful of Indian fans and one self-proclaimed supporter abroad can celebrate Kohli's unnecessary aggression toward a 19-year-old debutant. The funny thing is, you have already admitted that Kohli was wrong. It's even more amusing to see you using the Aussie vs. Asian teams' narrative to justify this. Weren't you the one claiming that the India vs. Australia rivalry is bigger than India vs. Pakistan? Or was that someone else? Why are you bringing Asian teams into this now? To gain some support? :inti
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Yes it was Asian teams vs Australia when Australia was a bully and Asian teams were meek and under confident. Today India has moved ahead of other Asian teams which are borderline irrelevant in cricket context. That is why the India vs Australia rivalry is the real deal. Obviously you are hurt about something so you do you lol.
 
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IMMY69 said:
No but what is the point of saying "cricket is not run on your wishful thinking"? Where does that take the debate?
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It is not a debate when you are biased and made up your mind.

My take is simple.

What Virat did is wrong for my sensibilities.

What he did is not some offence like fixing, biting the ball or tampering or even using racial slurs. Not even in the same ball park.

Should he get fined or warned-yes

Should he get whip lashes, capital punishment; life ban for his act- No

Are Aussies saints and not known to provoke- No.

As an Indian fan who saw Ponting shove a young Harbhajan, a respected politician like Sharad Pawar on the podium and all the racial and other bullying tactics, does it feel like a small level of payback- Yes

Since we got that covered now can you tell me what exactly the debate is here?
 
Local.Dada said:
Yes it was Asian teams vs Australia when Australia was a bully and Asian teams were meek and under confident. Today India has moved ahead of other Asian teams which are borderline irrelevant in cricket context. That is why the India vs Australia rivalry is the real deal. Obviously you are b-hurt about something so you do you lol.
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Local.Dada said:
Exactly, that’s why it feels sweet what he did. Not sure if you are arguing against or for me lol
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Local.Dada said:
It is not a debate when you are biased and made up your mind.

My take is simple.

What Virat did is wrong for my sensibilities.

What he did is not some offence like fixing, biting the ball or tampering or even using racial slurs. Not even in the same ball park.

Should he get fined or warned-yes

Should he get whip lashes, capital punishment; life ban for his act- No

Are Aussies saints and not known to provoke- No.

As an Indian fan who saw Ponting shove a young Harbhajan, a respected politician like Sharad Pawar on the podium and all the racial and other bullying tactics, does it feel like a small level of payback- Yes

Since we got that covered now can you tell me what exactly the debate is here?
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Dear oh dear.

Read your posts.... if you want to troll go elsewhere...
 
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Personally, I don’t have a problem with this regardless of what side of the fence it occurs. It adds to the drama and the sport is already toned down so much, as long as all are treated fairly and equally I see no issue with it.
 
shaz619 said:
Personally, I don’t have a problem with this regardless of what side of the fence it occurs. It adds to the drama and the sport is already toned down so much, as long as all are treated fairly and equally I see no issue with it.
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"as long as all are treated fairly and equally"... that's the crux although I have to disagree about Kohli's actions..

As a player you only show yourself to be an absolute numpty when you have to change course and bump into a 19 year old who is on debut....
In my view that is anything but "manly"
 
shaz619 said:
Personally, I don’t have a problem with this regardless of what side of the fence it occurs. It adds to the drama and the sport is already toned down so much, as long as all are treated fairly and equally I see no issue with it.
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Kohli might as well spear Travis Head the next time he comes out to bat for Australia and deliver a 'VKO' to Labuschagne while he is at it. :misbah :inti
 
HaiderAmmar said:
Show us the VIDEO to see the context, who started it, and if it was really a punch etc.
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How does "context" even matter? Asif Ali got triggered by the bowler's fiery celebration and shoved him , punched him etc etc which is clearly against ICC's laws and deserves a serious ban..

Why was it not given? Why did posters here didn't point that out but are now moaning about ICC being biased?
 
Mesozoic said:
How does "context" even matter? Asif Ali got triggered by the bowler's fiery celebration and shoved him , punched him etc etc which is clearly against ICC's laws and deserves a serious ban..

Why was it not given? Why did posters here didn't point that out but are now moaning about ICC being biased?
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I am sure there is already a thread about the Asif Ali incident. Could you bump that thread instead of derailing this one? :inti
 
After stumps on Day 1, Usman Khawaja spoke to local media outlet and revealed the whole incident from his point of view that happened on the field between Sam Konstas and Virat Kohli:

"At the moment, I didn't see what happened. Like, I was walking kind of the other way. And then I just went, 'woah'. I kind of looked back and saw like they just as I turned around, I saw them collide and I was like, what's going on here? But yeah, it wasn't."

"Sammy (Sam Konstas) was going, he was on fire. His beans were obviously going. I just came to diffuse the situation because I was like, I like the emotion. I like, you know, there was a bit of chirp going on between Sam and (Jasprit) Bumrah and Virat (Kohli) during the whole time, but I didn't want to be tainted by any physical contact."

“I’ve known Virat a long time, he came to the academy when I was in the U-19s. I’ve known him for a long time. Been mates a long time, so I was like (to Sam) ‘you chill, chill, go bat, I’ll talk to him and I’ll sort this out and yeah, it was fine’."

"Something along those lines, yeah. You don't even know everything. You know guys, seriously! What goes on the field stays on the field."
 
Mesozoic said:
Yes he deserves to be banned. That's not my point.

It's to counter the constant rona dhona of the "ICC won't ban him because he's Indian" narrative that gets peddled here by some.
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But unfortunately it's true. The ICC give Ind preferential treatment that no other country receives from any sporting body in the World
 
Bewal Express said:
But unfortunately it's true. The ICC give Ind preferential treatment that no other country receives from any sporting body in the World
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How is it a preferential treatment to Kohli if the same happened with a Pakistani player?
 
Pakpak said:
According to the ICC rulebook, “making inappropriate and deliberate physical contact with another player” is a Level 2 offence under chapter 42.1 of the MCC laws – Unacceptable Conduct.

Level 2: Fine of 50% to 100% of match fee and/or ban for 1 Test or 2 ODIs.


Kohli has only been fined 20%. total joke.

Then we have Indian posters and some naïve Pakistani ones asking innocently why has Bumrah's action never been called out.
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Lying and misdirecting as per your convenience. It's not a cut and dry Level 2 offence.

That's up to the match referee to decide.
 
Local.Dada said:
It’s funny, a lot of Pakistani careers end usually after Australia tour. The amount of sledging and mental pressure they put on field is world famous: in fact Indians before 2008 (IPl) used to be treated like that too.

Some Pakistani fans and one self- proclaimed Indian lose all sense of rationality when it comes to India.

I personally thought what Virat did was extremely cool. Absolutely rattled these Aussies who tried dirty tactics with him with the whole media thing. Well done Virat 👍
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Yeah , we don't know the complete story , maybe Aussies were doing something provocative before that riled him up.
 
IMMY69 said:
"as long as all are treated fairly and equally"... that's the crux although I have to disagree about Kohli's actions..

As a player you only show yourself to be an absolute numpty when you have to change course and bump into a 19 year old who is on debut....
In my view that is anything but "manly"
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I haven’t alluded to it being manly but this sport is overly toned down already and everything is a bit too PC for me, am not surprised Kohli is being ostracised
 
shaz619 said:
I haven’t alluded to it being manly but this sport is overly toned down already and everything is a bit too PC for me, am not surprised Kohli is being ostracised
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Well that's sort of the beauty of the game.... I.e let the ball or the bat do your talking...
 
Hellion said:
Lying and misdirecting as per your convenience. It's not a cut and dry Level 2 offence.

That's up to the match referee to decide.
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It was a Level 1 offence. It was a "deliberate " act but it didn't have the "force of contact" or cause any "injury" to the other player. Hence it is not a Level 2 offence as per ICC code of conduct. The match referee was absolutely right to give him a demerit point and a 20 % fine for a Level 1 offence.

This is why Neanderthals should not be allowed to talk about ICC laws or Bumrah's action.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Kohli might as well spear Travis Head the next time he comes out to bat for Australia and deliver a 'VKO' to Labuschagne while he is at it. :misbah :inti
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We should hang Kohli for denting the fragile ego’s of the maids who are bothered about the gas he passes in the wind. It’s Test cricket down under, he has won there, I think he has the license to do as he pleases.
 
IMMY69 said:
Well that's sort of the beauty of the game.... I.e let the ball or the bat do your talking...
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I think the two go hand in hand, you need to keep your energy at a certain level down under or these Aussies will walk all over you. He single handedly changed the psyche of his team to be able to compete with these guys, am sure he knows what he is doing. Cricket is as much a sport to see who has the better skills as it is a psychological battle.
 
Former India all-rounder Irfan Pathan, while talking to a local Indian sports broadcasting media outlet, said:

"Stay away from contact. You cannot contact a player. You can show aggression and support your players. He is a 19-year-old boy. When we were 19-year-old boys, Hayden, Gilchrist, and all used to make a lot of noise from behind but never touched us. So you could have avoided that on the cricket field."
 
FearlessRoar said:
Former India all-rounder Irfan Pathan, while talking to a local Indian sports broadcasting media outlet, said:

"Stay away from contact. You cannot contact a player. You can show aggression and support your players. He is a 19-year-old boy. When we were 19-year-old boys, Hayden, Gilchrist, and all used to make a lot of noise from behind but never touched us. So you could have avoided that on the cricket field."
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Irfan Pathan really went out of the script on this one. :murali :inti
 
Bhaijaan said:
Like him or hate him, but he’s the last of the nasties.
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Nasties?
He was about to cry when that kid gave them some nasties back . He was having those past flashbacks when Bairstow smashed them.
He is a camera queen who just loves attention, a typical bollywood diva who needs every focus on him and why not he has to feed his 270 million followers as well.
Have you seen how his fans are abusing that kid on insta? When it was virat who did jac**** thing but nahiiii kehte hain humko pyaar se India walein, galti apna karein tab bhi dosto ki phadein, dushman ke chakke insta Post pe jaake chudaaye hum India Wale.
Nasty lol my ***
 
shaz619 said:
I think the two go hand in hand, you need to keep your energy at a certain level down under or these Aussies will walk all over you. He single handedly changed the psyche of his team to be able to compete with these guys, am sure he knows what he is doing. Cricket is as much a sport to see who has the better skills as it is a psychological battle.
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True on those accounts but so did Ganguly without doing all this nonsense.

Even the shirt swinging Ganguly never repeated it and was only a payback to Flintoff, Dada actually ruined S Waugh’s farewell test series in Aus.

Kohli is definitely a better player than Ganguly but there was no point of what he did, very similar to Dhoni with Fizz in BD extreme cringe.

Maybe he should had just picked the ball, when Jayasuriya was about to score a double ton against India Ganguly came to bowl and took his wicket.
 
JaDed said:
True on those accounts but so did Ganguly without doing all this nonsense.

Even the shirt swinging Ganguly never repeated it and was only a payback to Flintoff, Dada actually ruined S Waugh’s farewell test series in Aus.

Kohli is definitely a better player than Ganguly but there was no point of what he did, very similar to Dhoni with Fizz in BD extreme cringe.

Maybe he should had just picked the ball, when Jayasuriya was about to score a double ton against India Ganguly came to bowl and took his wicket.
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Those are fair comments though I still hold my view. It has created a bit of a stir and it is up to Kohli/India to use that to their advantage, lets see how things play out in this Test
 
Mrjungshook said:
Why should I????
Your whole country is doing stereotyping 24 /7 .
Don't we know whats always happening between north south?
Or whats happening in north eastern zone because of stereotyping.
Stop your own people' first than request the others.
Thank you.
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What are you on about ,remove the chip from your shoulder already and life might get better.
 
Bewal Express said:
So you think this is on par. Bullying a young player with physical retribution
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Learn to read for once. I literally said Kohli should have been rightly banned for what he did today.

I'm targetting the serial moaners who think Kohli escaped the ban just because ICC are biased towards India.
 
About time Kohli got punished for badtameezi. Will be more pleasing if a player slaps or punches him back.

If Kohli did that to Inzamam would have cured his constipation in a second.
 
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