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This Bangladesh - England series has exposed his ineptness, and it has been a long time coming.

Without the DRS, an umpire like him is basically toast. The direct comparison is the other guy in the same game who makes far fewer mistakes, if at all.

How do the likes of him even make it to the elite panel?
 
Poor guy was literally shivering in the first innings when the Bangladesh bowlers were appealing :)))
 
This Bangladesh - England series has exposed his ineptness, and it has been a long time coming.

Without the DRS, an umpire like him is basically toast. The direct comparison is the other guy in the same game who makes far fewer mistakes, if at all.

How do the likes of him even make it to the elite panel?

He never was a good umpire to begin with. But with crap like Ashocker making it to the ELITE panel, nothing shocks me.

I bet the ELITE panel needs to be DELETED.
 
He's a very poor umpire but I think some of the English media is ignoring just how bad some of their own current umpires are also.
 
Umpire Ravi on the other hand has been quite decent.

Kumar just had one bad series, he'll bounce back.
 
He's a very poor umpire but I think some of the English media is ignoring just how bad some of their own current umpires are also.

We barely ever see our own international umpires, why would we focus on them?
 
He's ranker than my armpits on a hot, sweaty day. I think he was the guy behind the awful decision to give Khawaja out at Lord's in the Ashes a few years ago where the ball was literally a metre away from the bat.
 
However, he was not the one who cost Bangladesh the series. It was Gaffaney who did not give Ali out in the first Test first inning when he was lbw on 1. Went on to score 67 more runs and Bang lost by 22 runs.
 
He made mistakes for both teams.

Ashoka use to make mistakes only against subcontinent teams, mainly BD.

Dharmasene all day every day over ashoka. Plus Kumar played the game.
 
However, he was not the one who cost Bangladesh the series. It was Gaffaney who did not give Ali out in the first Test first inning when he was lbw on 1. Went on to score 67 more runs and Bang lost by 22 runs.

Why didn't BD review?

If they didn't have any left, then tbh its their fault. You shouldn't review unless you're pretty sure.
 
Why didn't BD review?

If they didn't have any left, then tbh its their fault. You shouldn't review unless you're pretty sure.

They had a review but did not take it. Their mistake no doubt, it seemed out to me watching on TV.
 
Not too many good umps around these days. Thank the lord that there's DRS now that's all I can say.
 
wasnt he the umpire of the year a couple of years back? shows u the poor quality of umpires the world over
 
He's in bad form.

If you don't watch the ball closely you will make mistakes and some howlers.
 
1st test has to the most DRS heavy in recent time
 
I guess the umpiring standards overall are unbelievably bad

Reiffel missed atleast 15-20 no balls in 2 innings in Dubai
 
I guess the umpiring standards overall are unbelievably bad

Reiffel missed atleast 15-20 no balls in 2 innings in Dubai

yeah cricket umpires are truly the worst in all sports imo.
 
Umpire Ravi on the other hand has been quite decent.

Kumar just had one bad series, he'll bounce back.

A few decent umpires from India all of a sudden, one such umpire who i feel is outstanding is Mr shamsuddin, who has the ability to make accurate decisions under pressure.
 
I remember about 10 yrs ago pretty much most experts from Sky/BBC (Johnathan Agnews in particular was soo anti Technology back then) used to go on and on about how the umpire is sacrosanct and how dare anyone undermine or question his authority. Sounds all comical now. The thing is technology has brutally exposed the limitations of Umpires. No human being can compete against machines. Its better we accept this and move on rather than let bloated egos and age old dogmatic thinking get in the way making correct decisions. Iam soo glad that BCCI has finally relented.
 
I guess the umpiring standards overall are unbelievably bad

Reiffel missed atleast 15-20 no balls in 2 innings in Dubai

No .... it has been like this forever its just that back then Umpires and authorities ruled with an Iron hand and it was not possible for Anyone to question their authority ... there was no other choice but to accept their decisions and fall in-line meekly.

Cricket as a spot and its complex rules dont lend themselves for easy and correct decision making.
 
No .... it has been like this forever its just that back then Umpires and authorities ruled with an Iron hand and it was not possible for Anyone to question their authority ... there was no other choice but to accept their decisions and fall in-line meekly.

Cricket as a spot and its complex rules dont lend themselves for easy and correct decision making.

Not really

Around late 2000s and till 2012 or so umpiring standards were very good and DRs introduction actually lent credence to that claim
 
Not really

Around late 2000s and till 2012 or so umpiring standards were very good and DRS introduction actually lent credence to that claim

Exhibit A : I present to you some of the notorious umpires from around that time : Darrell Hair, Ashoka DeSilva, Mark Benson, Billy Bowden ... and the king of them all : Steve Bucknor

As I said the Cricket world is very good at propping up reputations. The way they did that was by enforcing the concept of Umpire's sanctity. It was nothing but a means to hide the umpires incompetence.

One exception was Simon Taufel and for a few years even Aleem Dar.
 
Still got a long way to go to match the incompetence of Steve Bucknor. I am sure that Test match in Sydney is used as educational material for upcoming umpires on how not to umpire.
 
When the ball has been ripping as much as it has in this BD-Eng series, I would shiver in my boots too whilst umpiring. Extremely hard calling this!
 
i actually rate him. although he's made poor decisions over the years he is an 'outer' and no team ever ends up particularly hard done by

i think he'll come good eventually
 
He's rubbish. Ian Gould and Akeem Dar are the best umpires in the world today. Man I miss Taufel
 
When the ball has been ripping as much as it has in this BD-Eng series, I would shiver in my boots too whilst umpiring. Extremely hard calling this!

Why, the other umpire in the game was calling them just fine.
 
He still got more than 50 percent right in the series. Ball was turning right from ball 1 that why his decisions got overturned.
 
Why, the other umpire in the game was calling them just fine.

You also need to consider the number of close decisions each had to make. If Dharmasena had to make more close calls, then I guess its fair that he would have more overturned decisions.

Also, they had recently changed the 'umpires call' boundaries. So, when you are making close decisions the number of umpire's calls are obviously reduced.

I saw one decision of Dharmasena which was overturned, when Dharmasena gave it out, but the ball was missing the stumps by a whisker. Even half a centimetre the other way and it would have been umpire's call. That was a 50-50 decision for any umpire and we cant be blaming Dharmasena for those decisions.

DRS was not brought in for these close decisions. It was brought in to prevent horrors like Bucknor at Sydney.

Anyway, I am not claiming that Dharmasena is a great umpire. But we need to look at all these overturned decisions in context.
 
Used to call him Lol@sena in the past (before he became famous as Dharmasena Review System).

Now I kinda feel bad because everyone is making fun of him.
 
These days, task of Umpire is becoming more & more difficult because of the DRS & so many camera used to expose them. This BD-ENG series was played on a difficult wicket with turn, uneven bounce & double paced surface, where always something was happening. Also, out of 80 wickets, more than half required tough umpiring calls. Normally, it's tougher to Umpire on deteriorating wickets in a Test, because Umpires get confused on how much the ball is going to turn & bounce from previous day.

I actually feel sorry for Dharma because luck also went against him on marginal calls. Take his last 2 over rules - Stokes was plumb LBW & he reviewed it just for the sake of it, eventually it was found that the ball had touched may be less than 1 mm of his gloves. This was similar case in 1st Test for Moeen. Last innings, Cook was given LBW & everyone would have accepted that - not sure how it showed missing in DRS. And, I can go with few others as well - like the LBW of Balance which wasn't given (1st Test) - only a DRS review showed that the ball hit pad probably 0.1 second early. In olden days, sometimes players also helped umpires by walking or not claiming catches that they knew off pad or had grassed. These days gamesmanship has gone to ugly level & I do believe time for ICC to bring something like "Yellow card for diving" in football. May be, we can introduce demerit points after every match for too much appeal or faking inside edges.

I actually think, Umpiring standard is not that bad, actually better - it's too much advanced technology, that is exposing them. For example, Umpires like Frank Chester, Dickey Bird or Shepard are considered like saints, but they made lots of mistakes as well. These days, despite sniko & ball tracking, I am sure overall correct decision is close to 90% - use same technology 35/85 years back, many of the greats would have been badly exposed. The missed "No Ball" by Rifel looks silly, but PAK won a Test at Old Traford, because Shepard (Or Nichols?) missed few over stepping that got wickets - now days batsmen would have been called back, & we would have made laugh of the Umpire.

Personally, I think, the main issue is DRS - it should never be with players. Umpire will take his own decision - if he is confused/not sure - he'll call 3rd Umpire/Match Referee for a closer look & give him feedback - after that, once decision given that's the end of it - no more analysis. In olden days, the golden rule was - " A batsman is OUT, not because he was actually out, rather he was judged out by the Umpire, as per the laws of Cricket" - it still applies. Giving DRS to players doesn't serve justice - Mushi missed one review & decided not to review Moeen's case; same Moeen decided not to review on 3rd morning of 2nd Test for same reason. But, if we make DRS unlimited, then not only WI, every team will bowl 83 overs in 6.5 hours. The 3rd option (not losing a review for "marginal decision") is also extremely time consuming - about 90% calls are marginal (which means, Review will not be lost), therefore teams 'll review almost every chancy calls & even after 15-20 reviews, they might have one more to try.

DRS was introduced to eradicate Umpiring howlers - unfortunately it's been used as a chance to survive or get a wicket. And, that is making Umpires scared to take bold decisions. Dharma gave an excellent decision of giving Tamim out (On 101), without offering shot - now, less than half a CM on impact point or hitting point (stamp), it would have looked silly. Similarly, he judged Taijul Not Out, Stokes took a chance & the decision was turned probably for a millimeter in it. Without DRS at players hand, hardly any of those incidences I mentioned here would have been any issue. Most of those would have been stayed as it is - may be Umpires would have consulted with 3rd Umpire for Balance's call, Moeen's call (1st Test), Taijul's call before giving it.

I do study the game in open mind & I can tell that every elite Umpire these days would have been among top 2/3 Umpires in 20s, 50s or even 70s. Hanif was given Stumped on 94 (after scoring 101 in 1st innings) at MCG 1964, when Jarman dislodged the bail with pad first - Umpire gave him on appeal, Jarman sympathized saying, "Hard luck met"; Hanif smiled & walked off - that was it. After WW2, 1st Ashes Test, Brisbane - Bradman wasn't sure if he should continue or not, still he was made Captain; AUS batted & at individual 28, he edged Voce to 2nd slip's chest. England players waited for him to walk - he stood there, Umpire as well - DGB went on to 187; & only a single line from MCC Captain Hammond ended the story then & then - "What a ******* way to start a series". These days, we would have press conference called .................

Allow Umpires to take own decision with the aid of technology - they'll look much better. They are doing it for dubious Catch (with a "Soft" signal) & that's working perfectly. It'll work for every other decision as well - these Umpires are far better than those amateur Oldies umpiring even 25 years back. I wonder what Steve Buckner, Javed Akhter, Khizir Hayat, Ashoka, Pilu Reporter, Tony Crafter, Mark Benson, Tarapore or Banshal will look like these days and I am not going beyond 80s.
 
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Did anybody spot him making an error as the third umpire in this evening's ODI?

Sehwag in the Hindi commentary and post-match analysis is giving it to him.

An average umpire all around.
 
Kumar dharamsena needs to be sacked!

The biggest event of the sports calendar, it occurs once every 4 years and billions of fans are waiting for it.
It's a semi final and then you have an umpire who is officiating and who don't know the rules of game?

Making bad decisions one can understand however if an umpire at this level doesn't even know the rules he deserves to be sacked.

To put in perspective who didn't watch the match: Roy was given out caught behind (he was not out daylight between bat and ball, worst decision but that's not the point). After giving out the umpire Dharamsena refers to third umpire. The square leg umpire comes and tells dharamsena he can't do this. And Roy has to leave.

How can they have an umpire who doesn't even know the rules to be playing in world cup semis?

He needs to be sacked after this match, it's ICC world cup and not some local tournament.

Ridiculous display here.
 
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Not a great decision to give Roy out, plus Roy lost it a bit and will probably cop a few demerit points...
 
The biggest event of the sports calendar, it occurs once every 4 years and billions of fans are waiting for it.
It's a semi final and then you have an umpire who is officiating and who don't know the rules of game?

Making bad decisions one can understand however if an umpire at this level doesn't even know the rules he deserves to be sacked.

To put in perspective who didn't watch the match: Roy was given out caught behind (he was not out daylight between bat and ball, worst decision but that's not the point). After giving out the umpire Dharamsena refers to third umpire. The square leg umpire comes and tells dharamsena he can't do this. And Roy has to leave.

How can they have an umpire who doesn't even know the rules to be playing in world cup semis?

He needs to be sacked after this match, it's ICC world cup and not some local tournament.

Ridiculous display here.

Did he just try to review his own decision? :)))
 
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I guess everyone must still remember this arm exercise by Dharmasena!!
 
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He was influenced by Rashid on that Stoinis lbw as well sack him and get Shozab Reza in
 
I don't know how he gave Roy out.The ball was nowhere near the bat or glove.Aleem Dar gave a similar decision in another WC match but in this case the ball looked like it brushed the gloved.It was very close and the umpire also didn't have the full view as the batsman rolled his arms.Umpires don't have the benefit of replays,they have to make decisions in real time.
 
Thankfully did not influence the final outcome of the match so just let it go. Umpires will unfortunately have a bad day or two in their careers. They are after all human too.
 
Thankfully did not influence the final outcome of the match so just let it go. Umpires will unfortunately have a bad day or two in their careers. They are after all human too.

I don't know how he gave Roy out.The ball was nowhere near the bat or glove.Aleem Dar gave a similar decision in another WC match but in this case the ball looked like it brushed the gloved.It was very close and the umpire also didn't have the full view as the batsman rolled his arms.Umpires don't have the benefit of replays,they have to make decisions in real time.

He guesses far too often.

But if you waste your review, can't complain.

That's not the point. Point is after giving him out he tried to review it to third umpire when the square leg umpire intervened and told him you can't review your own decision you are an umpire not a player.

He doesn't even know the rules of game being an umpire.
 
He should have given it not-out if he was in doubt.
 
The umpires and officials for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2019 final have been appointed following the conclusion of the two semi-finals.
Taking charge of the final between New Zealand and England at Lord’s on Sunday, 14 July, the on-field umpires will be Sri Lankan Kumar Dharmasena and South African Marais Erasmus.
Australian Rod Tucker will be in the third umpire’s chair and Pakistan’s Aleem Dar will be the fourth official.
Ranjan Madugalle of Sri Lanka will be the match referee.
All the officials appointed for the final were also selected for one of the semi-finals.
 
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I guess everyone must still remember this arm exercise by Dharmasena!!

Pathetic. Was Dharamsena making it ego war? As surely you don’t expect wrong decision after wrong decision from an elite panel umpire.
 
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I guess everyone must still remember this arm exercise by Dharmasena!!

That was aweful
 
I don't wish to comment on individual umpires, does it make sense to force umpires to make split second real time decisions when there's only 2 of them and 13 players on the field? Why aren't resources provided to the umpires so they can consult with the 3rd umpire before making LBW or close catch decisions?
 
Cost Roy a much deserved hundred in a World Cup semifinal at home ground. A once in a lifetime opportunity. Despicable decision he had no reason to guess specially since Aus still had their review.
 
Dharmasena and Erasmus will be standing in the final match.Tucker will be the third umpire.
 
That's not the point. Point is after giving him out he tried to review it to third umpire when the square leg umpire intervened and told him you can't review your own decision you are an umpire not a player.

He doesn't even know the rules of game being an umpire.

extremely hilarious. Another thing he did is he screamed a big 'noooooo' and then raised his fingure.
 
It’s one thing for an umpire to make a mistake as that’s a part of the game.

It’s another to be intimidated by the fielding side and let that be the deciding factor in your decision.

He clearly said NO and then raised his finger!

Not to mention, releasing a big sigh when he made the decision.

I’m actually surprised Roy is not banned because he clearly expressed his dismay at the umpires.
 
I have sympathy for him. He makes a lot of mistakes but the poor guy probably must get upset deep down when everyone criticizes him. Umpiring is a very lonely job.
 
Decision by Dharmasena to give Nicholls out overturned, meanwhile Erasmus at the other end with an amazing decision to not give Guptill out...
 
Another terrible decision

How is this guy umpiring out in the field and Aleem Daar is 4th umpire?
 
I think the ICC have to give Dharmasena the big gigs so SL doesnt feel unimportant
 
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