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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] How do we stop Mohammad Haris turning out like Haider Ali?

Babar Azam speaking in an interview

"Haris is playing alongside me and is also making a similar impact as Rizwan does. Haris plays well under pressure and always puts pressure on other teams while always executing his game plans"
 
MenInG said:
Babar Azam speaking in an interview

"Haris is playing alongside me and is also making a similar impact as Rizwan does. Haris plays well under pressure and always puts pressure on other teams while always executing his game plans"
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There you go, Babar is a horrible captain.

Instead of telling Haris to improve he seem satisfied.
 
James Vince was livid with Haider for this and rightly so

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And not content with getting Vince out, Haider gets out also - a very painful 12(17)

If he is failing in every innings like that home, what hope of doing well overseas on tours?

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gazza619 said:
There you go, Babar is a horrible captain.

Instead of telling Haris to improve he seem satisfied.
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If he doing Tuk tuk people will complain and now he's giving license to Haris and Saim people still complain.
 
By letting him play his natural aggressive game. The reason Pak doesn't have an elite white ball batsman is purely due to their mentally outdated approach. More than the talents, it's the culture which hinders. Guys like Harris,Saim & Haider would flourish in Eng,Ind,Aus & SA because they don't put shackles on young talents & let them play freely on their beginning. Also they give young talents long rope unlike Pak.How many years it took for Rohit to establish himself?Or Bairstow? AB,Virat,Warner these guys were pretty mediocre in first 3/4 years, but the boards,selectors & captain/coaches didn't lose faith in them.Their ex players are also mentally far more flexible than Pakistanis.
 
Caution:

In PSL 8 he has 108 runs in 6 innings.
 
Hasebullah Khan is a better keeper batsman than Haris.

Haris has talent. But Hasebullah is better batsman and a much better keeper. Even Ayub looks more organized than Haris.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Hasebullah Khan is a better keeper batsman than Haris.

Haris has talent. But Hasebullah is better batsman and a much better keeper. Even Ayub looks more organized than Haris.
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Haris can field in the outfield maybe Haseebullah isn't a good fielder in the outfield hence why he's keeping.Haris is better player of the short ball.
 
Saj said:
Caution:

In PSL 8 he has 108 runs in 6 innings.
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Every time he plays a promising cameo he follows it up with brainless filth in the next game. And now he's got 2 ducks in a row.

A very up and down batsman at the moment. Hoping it doesn't become all down like with Haider.
 
Let’s put it bluntly, Haider Ali is a nothing batsman, but he’s a better all-round batsman than Haris.
 
I hope Haris rescues his reputation in the NZ series, because these 2 players are drawing closer together in my mind
 
Daylight between Harris and Haider. Haider has one shot in his book which is a legside hack. Haider on the other hand is a much more well rounded player
 
I feel bad for Pakistani fans. Traumatized by so many unfulfilled promises of players who showed some initial talent that they think anyone going through a slightly bad patch is doomed for failure.

These were the absolute worst pitches for t20 batting here in the UAE. Sharjah is hilariously bad at having pitches conductive to LOI batting. It’s not rocket science that a guy who enjoyed batting in Australia with true bounce would struggle on these dead pitches.

Please relax.

I’m not saying he’s an auto success. But he deserves a long rope after coming clutch on such a grand stage last year.
 
For one, we gotta give him some games. If there's no room at the top bring him at 5 instead of Iftikhar
 
He needs to stop trying to hit the ball too hard. He’s got a good bat swing needs to focus on timing and piercing the gaps
 
He is like Asif Ali but worse. A fast bowler tailender could do the same thing. They will show up against minnows and go missing against good teams.

We need proper batters with good techniques.
 
That was a ridiculous shot to try today first ball.

I get the lad is confident and he backs himself, but I'm afraid there is confidence and there is over-confidence.
 
Don’t know what to say really.

It was a very risky shot first up, but then again how do we want him to play, his natural style is to attack and if he had conmected well that would have been an easy six. But looks ugly and stupid if you lose your wicket.
 
I’m all for Haris to open the batting but regardless of whether he is or not, it does not excuse playing a shot like that in your literal first delivery, especially when you get out doing it. Jos Butler ain’t doing that in his first delivery, especially during his early phase of his career.
 
Whilst he should continue playing his shots he should give him self a couple balls first.
 
Even Afridi in his flamboyant era used to size up a few deliveries before playing his shots. This guy needs some serious talk
 
Another Shahid Afridi in the making. Will have many 0 (1)'s in his career.

People will probably love him for his aggressive style of batting. But won't average more than 30 in his career.
 
shamaan said:
Whilst he should continue playing his shots he should give him self a couple balls first.
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Sad part being that he has serious ability to hit out from ball 1. Just needs to focus more on playing proper cricket shots whilst giving himself more time on the crease.

Match awareness is something we Pakistanis really lack.
 
Easy - stop playing him out of position so babar and rizwan can impress their sponsors
 
TheSultan said:
Easy - stop playing him out of position so babar and rizwan can impress their sponsors
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Yep. Anyone can open at the top. But you can’t just slot someone who is a regular opener in the middle order and expect it to work.

His game has never been to push the ball around. He’s there to hit.

Given Babar and Rizwan’s senior status and experience, you’d expect them to be bigger men and move down the order to stabilize it and let Haris and Saim open.

Doesn’t excuse his showing, but him playing out of position plays a massive factor.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Another Shahid Afridi in the making. Will have many 0 (1)'s in his career.

People will probably love him for his aggressive style of batting. But won't average more than 30 in his career.
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Yes sometimes this sort of player will fail, but there is no need to slog from ball one unless it's at the end of the innings.

A little bit more thought and game awareness and this lad can become an asset for Pakistan.
 
Suleiman said:
Yep. Anyone can open at the top. But you can’t just slot someone who is a regular opener in the middle order and expect it to work.

His game has never been to push the ball around. He’s there to hit.

Given Babar and Rizwan’s senior status and experience, you’d expect them to be bigger men and move down the order to stabilize it and let Haris and Saim open.

Doesn’t excuse his showing, but him playing out of position plays a massive factor.
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He did pretty well for Peshawar Zalmi at 3. Also usually comes in during the powerplay so not much of a difference.

He will need to understand that international cricket is a different level and many of these international bowlers will have plans ready for him. Also needs to understand that there always will be bad balls to be hit. Doesn't need to play high risk shots from ball 1. Once you're seeing the ball well you can do whatever you want.
 
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Saj said:
Yes sometimes this sort of player will fail, but there is no need to slog from ball one unless it's at the end of the innings.

A little bit more thought and game awareness and this lad can become an asset for Pakistan.
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That is where Mickey Arthur can be of great value. The lads respect Arthur and they might listen to him.

Arthur sees a proper bat in M Haris and not some late order slogger ala Asif Ali.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Sad part being that he has serious ability to hit out from ball 1. Just needs to focus more on playing proper cricket shots whilst giving himself more time on the crease.

Match awareness is something we Pakistanis really lack.
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Definitely we lack on this aspect but how do we improve on this.
 
shamaan said:
Definitely we lack on this aspect but how do we improve on this.
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It all starts with ones cricketing culture. For many years sloggers have been glorified despite their consistent failures. For most youngsters this is the route to glory/fame and money.

Also the lack of domestic experience, not playing enough FC to improve the basics of batting. In domestic if you average more than 50 over a longer period of time then you have shown to be reliable and able to counter every type of bowling attack or type of wicket. There is a reason Ifti has a better chance at succeeding than someone like Haris at this very moment in the same type of role. Ifti knows that you can always comeback in the very next over against a different type of a bowler. Saim/Haris panic seeing the RRR up.

Coaches need to instill the sense of responsibility from a very young age. In the end the ones with a higher IQ and enough cricketing experience (time taken to improve your gameplay) will prevail.
 
I have faith that with an extended run he will prove he's not a Haider Ali.

These types of players by definition are hit or miss, but Haris has produced innings and cameos for Pakistan and Peshawar that we have never seen from Haider.

(Not that I believe Haider is a lost cause)
 
As long as he keeps his domestic form and continues to improve there, especially PSL I think he’ll be fine, he’ll continue to improve as a player and will get chances again in international even when he’s dropped. Which I think will happen sadly, his stats are not great now, and already didn’t play mostly against nz.

Biggest issue with Haider was that his domestic form went too. Can’t be confident of a call up again with that bad domestic form, so there’s just way too much pressure when he went out to bat in his recent international games. As it probably felt once he got dropped, he’ll be dropped for good.
 
So Mohammad Haris is now captain of Shaheens for the ACC Emerging Cup

I would say he's already ahead of Haider Ali in that respect?
 
That was special inning from haris on difficult wicket .Seems he has improved his temperament and off side game which was evident in lpl
 
Improvements clearly visible.

He now has a wider range of shots available also.

Still plays some wild shots, but that's something I suppose we will have to get used to.
 
I can absolutely gaurentee that there is NO PLAYER besides Haris in Pakistan who has the courage to reverse sweep a bowler of Theekshana’s caliber in the powerplay
 
how would he fit in a top order of Babar rizwan and Fakhar in order for him to play where he is suited we should sacrifice Fakhar
 
Played an excellent knock yesterday but still has much to learn the young man. Lucky for him he has guys like Babar, Rizwan and Shadab who can ensure he is guided on the right path and doesn't become another Akmal/Sharjeel
 
Haider Ali failed again today. He just scored 4 runs aginst Hong Kong in the Asian Games Quarter-final.
 
to me Mohammad Harris is already an over confident version of Haider Ali in Pakistan Cricket.
 
The migration process from Harris to Hyder Ali is almost complete.
When I first saw a few innings, I thought Harris would become a clutch player. He can open, and he can bat in the depth.
 
simple. Let them play domestic and pile on the runs before getting selected
 
Let him focus on domestic but keep him as backup keeper.

Play him at no 7 or 6, with chacha it's probably his last world cup, so he shpuld be a replacement.
 
Yet another failure for Haider Ali today. He scored just 2 runs against Afghanistan before he was bowled by Qais Ahmed in the Asian Games Semi-final. Poor stuff from Haider ali
 
Haris has been quite poor for his last 5 games. But before that, he seemed to be in good domestic form. Let's see if he can make a comeback this PSL.

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PakEngFan said:
Have said it before that without FC his career will end before it began.
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He is 22 and has played 5 FC games & 42 List A games. Which honestly is not bad.

Honeslty, I think he is better off playing in franchise leagues and being a T20 specialist. Quality of our domesic sucks and so he will get better exposure playing overseas. Playing domesitic FC is a waste of time.
 
Haris needs to understand that other than just slogging there is more to cricket. I hardly saw him playing according to the game situation.
 
He's batting out of position he's a better player that what he has done in this psl games.
 
Needs to be persisted with. He has the potential to play those match winning innings in t20s, like those 60 off 25 that you remember for a while. But those kinds of players aren't made in a day
 
We had plenty of such players in the past and they never seems to make it big , yep he is definitely going Haider Ali route from what I am seeing.
 
Mohammad Haris this PSL:
8 matches
80 runs
average 11.42
sr: 118

Haider Ali
4 matches
45 runs
average 22.5
sr 150

the title should be, how do we get Haris to play more like Haider Ali :ROFLMAO:

Haris this PSL:
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He’s turned out to be worse than Haider Ali and that quite a statement. 2 shockingly bad players. Let stardom get to their head even before their career started.
 
Haider was a talented guy but he was careless. The same is the case with Haris here. He has potential but he is too careless and throws his wicket away by playing shots with closed eyes and goes after every ball.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Haider was a talented guy but he was careless. The same is the case with Haris here. He has potential but he is too careless and throws his wicket away by playing shots with closed eyes and goes after every ball.
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Not really no, Haris was a hack but could be utilised as Pakistan's perfect no 7 but he was never gonna be a great player. Chacha kinda replaced him as he can bowl too even though both are medicore.

Haider Ali could have been the umar akmal that we all wanted, aka solid middle order bat who can play aggressively and so quick fire knocks but it seems he took the becoming umar akmal statement literally.
 
I don't know how he got selected into the team with such playing tactics. He has no experience of playing first class cricket, not even club cricket experience yet he got selected into the team. I don't know on which parchi he got selected but now it's time to kick him out and give a chance to any other player waiting on merit. He is just a latha player so no need to waste further time on him.
 
Apparently Mohammad Haris was willing to play the President’s One Day Cup but didn’t get a contract from any team.

Rested for a T20i series.

Returned from BPL due to no NOC.

Ignored for the NZ home series.

Ignored from the domestic one day tournament.

I don’t condone violence, but someone needs to slap the living day light out of Wahab Riaz.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Apparently Mohammad Haris was willing to play the President’s One Day Cup but didn’t get a contract from any team.

Rested for a T20i series.

Returned from BPL due to no NOC.

Ignored for the NZ home series.

Ignored from the domestic one day tournament.

I don’t condone violence, but someone needs to slap the living day light out of Wahab Riaz.
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He's upset someone behind the scenes.

Not a huge Haris fan but how does he not even get a domestic contract ?
 
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