[PICTURES/VIDEOS] Imad Wasim taking a smoke break in between match

[iPakistani]

imad smoking in the dressing room after dropping 5-23 in the PSL final has got to be one of the coldest moments in cricket history

 

[daytrader]

Imad Wasim rolled up Multan Sultans into a blunt and smoked them.

But I agree with OP, in that smoking should not be normalized. Even Islamically, it’s an intoxicant, and should be kept far away. Esp as a sportsman who is a role model to children.

Don't think anyone is looking up to Imad Wasim as a role model but yes he has won a new fan today for being authentic

 

[160KPH]

More than anything I think it was funny how the camera switched to him sitting there so casually with a cigarette while his team were still fielding along with Waqar’s surprise when he pulled the cigarette out

 

[MK7Z]

His reaction reminded me of back in the day when an elder would turn up and you'd hide your cigarette

But he can smoke all he wants its his health and fitness however in front of a camera is not a good look, just like if Azam Khan was seen smashing a 1/2 pounder after going off injured mid game.

 

[Professionalismandflair]

His reaction reminded me of back in the day when an elder would turn up and you'd hide your cigarette

But he can smoke all he wants its his health and fitness however in front of a camera is not a good look, just like if Azam Khan was seen smashing a 1/2 pounder after going off injured mid game.

Just the one?

 

[Major]

Brother being a celebrity doesn't mean he can't do certain things.

Smoking is bad, but if you want this to stop then actually contribute and force companies to shut down and ban access to cigarettes like many advertising companies try to do.

The argument goes both ways, shpuld we ban the cricketer who's smoking but lay the companies actually manufacturing them and having them publicly available for a profit off the hook?

Its not about celebrities.

Its about a sportsman indulging in such habits.


I find the hypocrisy appealing in this thread. The same lot that had issues with the cake cutting are now justifying a sports man smoking because there favourite player is doing it.

This effects your lungs and fans also will want to do this.

 

[Major]

I dislike Imad as much as the next guy but c'mon, not everything that you do can be in the context of how it would impact the millions of viewers.

Everyone knows Imad is a smoker and if he wanted a quick one at the time so be it. It wasn't the best thing to do but my point is that you can't always think and you won't always think about the millions watching you before you do something.

Bro.

This same lot have made a cake thread where they bash players cutting cake, and the same lot is now defending a cig being smoked.

Thing is, instead of defending the actions of there favourite players these fans need to be consisstent with their own arguments.

What i have learned in recent years is that as long as your favourtite player does something its ok

 

[PakEngFan]

If babar did this fans would rush to defend him and if rizwan did this, fans would rush to explain how it is religiously correct or whatever.

Smoking is haram in Islam. No one should defend this sort of behavior. No matter who does it but I bet you will be very exited if they do it.

 

[mominsaigol]

Smoking is haram in Islam. No one should defend this sort of behavior. No matter who does it but I bet you will be very exited if they do it.

I'm a non smoker man haven't smoked in my life, while my aussie mates were going to the club I was busy fiddling around or animating something on my computer lol, also I ironically had no clue that its haram in Islam, I thought only alcohol and pork and substance like heroin etc were.

This actually changes my perspective on things.

 

[mominsaigol]

Its not about celebrities.

Its about a sportsman indulging in such habits.


I find the hypocrisy appealing in this thread. The same lot that had issues with the cake cutting are now justifying a sports man smoking because there favourite player is doing it.

This effects your lungs and fans also will want to do this.

The cake thread was made fun of because during the World Cup, we were getting thrashed left and right and lost 3 games on the dot.

We needed to win the sa game desperately yet we came up with this video? It felt like a joke and a Slap to the fans. It was beyond cringe worthy.

In imad's case he's not making a tiktok video, he's just taking a puff and a camera man decides to focus on him instead of of the game whereas usually they don't pan the camera put to the dugout that much.

Regardless I made thay comment before @PakEngFan Told me smoking was haram, so I retract what I said earlier.

However it doesn't change the fact that imad taking a puff and having a cameraman pan in on him vs an entire 15 man squad making a beyond cringeworthy tiktok video.

The latter is cring worthy and meme worthy and deserves to be made fun of.

The former one is just controversial, but theirs nothing to meme about nor does it affect the overall status of the team given that they won the cup.

Big difference. You're trying to equate both acts as one ans using that to justify so called imad fans and Babar haters as being non consistent when the whole premise isn't the same nor is the action.

 

[Rana]

Smoking is haram in Islam. No one should defend this sort of behavior. No matter who does it but I bet you will be very exited if they do it.

Smoking is Haram? Provide undeniable proof of this backed by the Quran and Hadith

 

[mominsaigol]

Smoking is Haram? Provide undeniable proof of this backed by the Quran and Hadith

My own family does smoke, but none of them drink or eat pork,

And many of them live in Pakistan not Australia so their more religious then I am, so I genuinely don't know if he's spreading false info,

But I wouldn't be suprised since he's done thay before.

 

[Rana]

My own family does smoke, but none of them drink or eat pork,

And many of them live in Pakistan not Australia so their more religious then I am, so I genuinely don't know if he's spreading false info,

But I wouldn't be suprised since he's done thay before.

It is false. Smoking is not haraam. You can personally dislike this habit and make it Haraam upon yourself out of choice, but there is nothing in the Quran that openly prohibits it like Drinking and Gambling.

 

[mominsaigol]

It is false. Smoking is not haraam. You can personally dislike this habit and make it Haraam upon yourself out of choice, but there is nothing in the Quran that openly prohibits it like Drinking and Gambling.

@PakEngFan Bro you lying now? I fr was about to call my family irl and discourage some of them, since some of them are very religious but still smoke?

You really be stooping to new lows. Atleast don't lie, next time I'll ask for proof on these things.

 

[iPakistani]

@PakEngFan Bro you lying now? I fr was about to call my family irl and discourage some of them, since some of them are very religious but still smoke?

You really be stooping to new lows. Atleast don't lie, next time I'll ask for proof on these things.

It's pretty embarrasing that you were willing to relay religious advice from a random poster on a cricket forum to your family members. You're a grown man you can do your own research instead of believe any and everyone.

Now back to topic, Imad smoking is wrong but was a boss move and just enhanced his aura by a million.

 

[mominsaigol]

It's pretty embarrasing that you were willing to relay religious advice from a random poster on a cricket forum to your family members. You're a grown man you can do your own research instead of believe any and everyone.

Now back to topic, Imad smoking is wrong but was a boss move and just enhanced his aura by a million.

He shouldn't be lying though? It's as simple as that? Being grown doesn't mean you can't take wrong information or get scammed lol.

Regardless I won't get into this anymore.

This whole imad smoking thing is nonsense.

 

[iPakistani]

He shouldn't be lying though? It's as simple as that? Being grown doesn't mean you can't take wrong information or get scammed lol.

Regardless I won't get into this anymore.

This whole imad smoking thing is nonsense.

He doesn't necessarily have to be lying he could just be misinformed, it's religion after all. I also believe smoking is haram but others could disagree. You could believe Imad is better than Babar and you'd be misinformed.

 

[RidiculousMan]

My own family does smoke, but none of them drink or eat pork,

And many of them live in Pakistan not Australia so their more religious then I am, so I genuinely don't know if he's spreading false info,

But I wouldn't be suprised since he's done thay before.

I don't know about Haram or Halal. Ask a mufti that question.

I do know however that Smoking comes under the circle of things that harm the body. We know that more than ever now because of science.

In Islam you are not allowed to consciously harm yourself. So with smoking you are doing that. You are consciously harming yourself.

Moreover if you are a regular smoker. The puffs you are taking is harming others. The smoke is spreading to your surroundings and harming your loved ones even.

 

[mominsaigol]

He doesn't necessarily have to be lying he could just be misinformed, it's religion after all. I also believe smoking is haram but others could disagree. You could believe Imad is better than Babar and you'd be misinformed.

.

Ridiculous analogy but okay.

 

[mominsaigol]

I don't know about Haram or Halal. Ask a mufti that question.

I do know however that Smoking comes under the circle of things that harm the body. We know that more than ever now because of science.

In Islam you are not allowed to consciously harm yourself. So with smoking you are doing that. You are consciously harming yourself.

Moreover if you are a regular smoker. The puffs you are taking is harming others. The smoke is spreading to your surroundings and harming your loved ones even.

Mate, Google is confusing me, so let it rest since I'd rather not get into religion at all now.

This is why I hate threads such as these, inad smoking has zero relevance to what occurred during psl, its just another desperate attempt to bring religion which is already beyond controversial to defame the guy over and over.

it's honestly hilarious and beyond desperate at this point.

 

[iPakistani]

Mate, Google is confusing me, PP is confusing me, so let it rest since I'd rather not get into religion at all now.

This is why I hate threads such as these, inad smoking has zero relevance to what occurred during psl, its just another desperate attempt to bring religion which is already beyond controversial to defame the guy over and over.

it's honestly hilarious and beyond desperate at this point.

It's got nothing to do with religion except those that have made the thread about religion. Smoking a cigarette in the changing room during an active game is wrong in any professional sport capacity. If this happened in the premier league the player would probably be banned for a large amount of games aswell as majority of fans not taking the player seriously.

 

[shamaan]

Smoking is haram in Islam. No one should defend this sort of behavior. No matter who does it but I bet you will be very exited if they do it.

No its Makrooh At-Tahrimi

Smoking is haram in Islam. No one should defend this sort of behavior. No matter who does it but I bet you will be very exited

 

[mominsaigol]

It's got nothing to do with religion except those that have made the thread about religion. Smoking a cigarette in the changing room during an active game is wrong in any professional sport capacity. If this happened in the premier league the player would probably be banned for a large amount of games aswell as majority of fans not taking the player seriously.

That whole argument is weird since snooker players tend to smoke, so do professional chess players and it's seen before games as well.

It's not like imad smoked on the field, he smoked in the dressing room.

Football is a different sport. Their all different sports that have their own rules.

If anything making those cake videos would have gotten entire teams banned in priemere leagues lol.

 

[shamaan]

Smoking is Haram? Provide undeniable proof of this backed by the Quran and Hadith

It isnt clear cut thiers difference of opinion on this.

 

[IMMY69]

some usual idiotic reponses on this thread.

Immature, pathetic childlike behaviour...

 

[Rana]

It isnt clear cut thiers difference of opinion on this.

Who has categorically stated it’s Haraam and on what authority?

 

[Rana]

I don't know about Haram or Halal. Ask a mufti that question.

I do know however that Smoking comes under the circle of things that harm the body. We know that more than ever now because of science.

In Islam you are not allowed to consciously harm yourself. So with smoking you are doing that. You are consciously harming yourself.

Moreover if you are a regular smoker. The puffs you are taking is harming others. The smoke is spreading to your surroundings and harming your loved ones even.

Right,

Eating fried chicken also harms your body.

 

[PakEngFan]

No its Makrooh At-Tahrimi

For some it maybe but other it's not.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Right,

Eating fried chicken also harms your body.

And you should avoid that. It's a common sense if you didn't know to avoid anything that harms you. To the best of your ability.

That being said. The level of damage and the potential risk of cancer development that smoking does is nowhere near to that of eating fried chicken or drinking soft drink.

 

[Rana]

And you should avoid that. It's a common sense if you didn't know to avoid anything that harms you. To the best of your ability.

That being said. The level of damage and the potential risk of cancer development that smoking does is nowhere near to that of eating fried chicken or drinking soft drink.

So you should avoid it, but it’s not Haraam?

 

[Rana]

For some it maybe but other it's not.

Then you should not invoke your individual sect’s belief as the unanimous belief representing all Muslims.

 

[Misia]

TBH, i don't have a issue with his or anyone else smoking for that matter, what you chose to do with your body is your choice.(go outside or at least off camera)
But what from what I can see Imad seems to be making a statement, Great role model showing from Imad.
A very unprofessional way of going about things, which should and must have repercussions!
Let us see if and how Islamabad United and or PCB decide to proceed with this in the future

 

[Jazx]

That picture doesn't look like he is smoking; maybe he's using an inhaler for some issues.
I don't think he's foolish enough to smoke in the dugout while sitting next to the team in front of cameras.

Inhaler in the mouth

 

[shamaan]

Who has categorically stated it’s Haraam and on what authority?

Thats why i said its a different of opinion hence why we cant say its clear cut harram.

 

[shamaan]

For some it maybe but other it's not.

Thats why its not haram becouse its not clear cut(some/others)

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Inhaler in the mouth

Initially, I thought that was an inhaler, but after watching the video, I am convinced that he was smoking.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Taking a fag at the twilight of your career just means you dont give a rat anymore.

He is retired and is enjoying his life.

Let him be.

If Jannik Sinner was caught smoking midway through a match, you can be outraged.

Not for someone who has quit professional cricket and is on recreational mode.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

no wonder why he is so lazy on the field.

 

[PakEngFan]

Thats why its not haram becouse its not clear cut(some/others)

What I meant by some was a maniorty. Majority agree it's haram. My school of thought and my scholars believe it's haram and that's enough for me along with majority.

 

[shamaan]

What I meant by some was a maniorty. Majority agree it's haram. My school of thought and my scholars believe it's haram and that's enough for me along with majority.

what is your school of thought ?

 

[Major]

Whether its haram or not is irrelevent.

Point is, a sports person should not be smoking cigs or shisha

 

[topspin]

What I meant by some was a maniorty. Majority agree it's haram. My school of thought and my scholars believe it's haram and that's enough for me along with majority.

I thought you had finally stopped clinging on this grudge you had with Imad after yesterday’s post, wher you were advocating for Imad’s recall by Pakistan.

But now you’re using your own interpretation of Islam to vilify him. Why?

 

[topspin]

Taking a fag at the twilight of your career just means you dont give a rat anymore.

He is retired and is enjoying his life.

Let him be.

If Jannik Sinner was caught smoking midway through a match, you can be outraged.

Not for someone who has quit professional cricket and is on recreational mode.

Imad bossing it in a final whilst on recreational mode. What a guy

 

[PakEngFan]

I thought you had finally stopped clinging on this grudge you had with Imad after yesterday’s post, wher you were advocating for Imad’s recall by Pakistan.

But now you’re using your own interpretation of Islam to vilify him. Why?

Its the interpretation of majority of the Muslims and I am not holding this against him. Why would I? It's his life and he can do whatever he wants. The poster said I would defend if Babar and rizwan smoked to which I replied I won't defend anything which goes against Islam.

 

[PakEngFan]

what is your school of thought ?

Hanbali. Both Hanbali and Maliki consider it to be haram and majority of Hanafi and Shafi consider it to be haram as well.

 

[mazkhan]

Well if he smokes

There's the reason he is unfit

he struggled with his weight was very heavy bottom down big backside , chicken thighs

Good riddance from national side I say .

 

[hafizexpress]

If babar did this fans would rush to defend him and if rizwan did this, fans would rush to explain how it is religiously correct or whatever.

I'm a Babar and Rizwan fan but they're not my religious idols. I wouldn't bend my religion for them. So relax. There's one thing defending their cricket and another thing changing life for them.

Besides, as someone who actively defends my religion which is the religion these cricketers are upon, my issue with this is not a religious one. It's just simply unprofessional to be smoking in the middle of a game. Your duty comes before your habits. Wait a couple of hours? If your biases make you blind to the fact that this is unprofessional then I don't know what to say to you

 

[hafizexpress]

I'm guessing he was fasting all day and obviously the cigarette cravings would be strong. So can forgive him.

Doesn't matter. He's doing a job he's getting paid for. He should have waited another couple of hours then smoked whatever

 

[mazkhan]

Doesn't matter. He's doing a job he's getting paid for. He should have waited another couple of hours then smoked whatever

Professional athletes don't smoke

Smoking is a killer

Beggers belief why a sportsmen would damage his health and fitness which are his cornerstone.

 

[topspin]

Its not about celebrities.

Its about a sportsman indulging in such habits.


I find the hypocrisy appealing in this thread. The same lot that had issues with the cake cutting are now justifying a sports man smoking because there favourite player is doing it.

This effects your lungs and fans also will want to do this.

Context is important.

The cake that was cut right after the Brisbane test, under Misbah, was in very different circumstances. The loss marked Pakistan’s 10th consecutive test defeat in Australia.

There's a time and place for when you can cut cake and have a celebration for Asad Shafiq's hundred. Celebrating a 5fer or a ton in these circumstances just reeks of small team mentality. This event set a terrible precedent for Pakistan cricket and is a reflection of culture that Misbah created in Pakistan cricket. He's one of the main reasons why Pakistan now only has 2 or 3 players who have the mental attributes to perform on the big stage.

Misbah's stints as captain and more recently as Head Coach/Chief Selector have damaged Pakistan cricket immeasurably.

 

[shamaan]

Hanbali. Both Hanbali and Maliki consider it to be haram and majority of Hanafi and Shafi consider it to be haram as well.

Okay back it up with proof otherwise stay quite.

 

[zarak]

That made good television.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Imad knows how to keep himself in lime light via Gold Leaf

 

[RidiculousMan]

So you should avoid it, but it’s not Haraam?

I don't know if it's Halal or Haram. You may find different opinions on this among different schools of thought.

 

[PakEngFan]

Okay back it up with proof otherwise stay quite.

You said it's makrukh. Back it up with proof . I said I am Hanbali and it's haram in our school of thought. Not sure what you want me to provide. It's common knowledge that smoking is haram in all 4 school of thoughts bar few scholars.

 

[IMMY69]

If Imad wants to smoke then that's his personal choice. Actually it's not a choice, it's an addiction and as an ex smoker myself I know very well how addictive it is...

BUT, to smoke in the dug out, amongst your colleagues and eith children watching doesn't make you a Bad Ass... quiet the contrary.

1. It sets an extremely poor example to youngsters watching.
2. It is harmful to others around you which is also selfish
3. Shows that you don't have sufficient discipline
4. That you're extremely selfish

Regarding point 1, some of the comments here on PP show that he's clearly made a wrong impression on certain posters which means these posters are either impressionable kids or just so biased, lack a life and hence will support anyone, no matter what. Conversely these same posters show equal hatred towards players they dislike.

A very sad indictment

 

[mominsaigol]

I don't know if it's Halal or Haram. You may find different opinions on this among different schools of thought.

I have a genuine question.

If its haram then why is it allowed in Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, uae?

Like it's open for sale?

In Pakistan and UAE alcohol isn't allowed but it is publicly available for Christians, in order for Muslims to acquire it, they need to typically order online (UAE) since no one cares online or get a hold of a brooker (Pakistan) which is what some of my pakistani friends did.

But in Muslim countries for smoking and cigars, they don't check your id at all, in the case of Pakistan they don't check it, in case of uae they check your age but not if you're a Muslim or not.

So literally doesn't make sense if it's haram then it wouldn't be open for sake for Muslims in Muslim countries.

 

[IMMY69]

I have a genuine question.

If its haram then why is it allowed in Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, uae?

Like it's open for sale?

In Pakistan and UAE alcohol isn't allowed but it is publicly available for Christians, in order for Muslims to acquire it, they need to typically order online (UAE) since no one cares online or get a hold of a brooker (Pakistan) which is what some of my pakistani friends did.

But in Muslim countries for smoking and cigars, they don't check your id at all, in the case of Pakistan they don't check it, in case of uae they check your age but not if you're a Muslim or not.

So literally doesn't make sense if it's haram then it wouldn't be open for sake for Muslims in Muslim countries.

This is a subject for time pass.

But ask yourself this? Why would something so addictive, that is a proven killer (not only to those consuming it but to those around you) be acceptable in Islam?

Interpretation is the key here.
Can anyone here point to me where in the Quran alcohol is strictly prohibited? I know intoxication is but where does it state that alcohol is prohibited? So a large amount of common sense has been used for interpreting that consuming alcohol is forbidden.

Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances going around and one must ask themselves whether something like this would be allowed in Islam?

 

[mominsaigol]

This is a subject for time pass.

But ask yourself this? Why would something so addictive, that is a proven killer (not only to those consuming it but to those around you) be acceptable in Islam?

Interpretation is the key here.
Can anyone here point to me where in the Quran alcohol is strictly prohibited? I know intoxication is but where does it state that alcohol is prohibited? So a large amount of common sense has been used for interpreting that consuming alcohol is forbidden.

Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances going around and one must ask themselves whether something like this would be allowed in Islam?

Alcohol existed during the time of the prophet and in the hadith he specifically mentioned no alcohol. The hadith is just as important as their the words of the prophet who God entrusted to spread the message in the first place.

Their different interpretations. Regardless this thread wasn't made in regards to smoking. It was clearly made because the poster has an agenda against imad and is secretly trying to latch onto some hate as @topspin clearly predicted.

 

[Major]

Alcohol existed during the time of the prophet and in the hadith he specifically mentioned no alcohol. The hadith is just as important as their the words of the prophet who God entrusted to spread the message in the first place.

Their different interpretations. Regardless this thread wasn't made in regards to smoking. It was clearly made because the poster has an agenda against imad and is secretly trying to latch onto some hate as @topspin clearly predicted.

How can you go around making assumptions about me?

A sportsman is smoking in the dressing room. This is what the thread is about.

What agenda is there?

Just because you liek the cricketer who expect everyone to just priase him and ignore whatever stupid acts that person is doing?

I have given him credit where it was due, but this is wrong.

Its funny how you will go around talking about others being blind and consider yourself to be unbiased yet here you are claiming that a thread about a topic where the person is caught on camera doing something is agenda based

 

[BouncerGuy]

Stay on topic guys. No personal fights here please.

 

[Major]

If Imad wants to smoke then that's his personal choice. Actually it's not a choice, it's an addiction and as an ex smoker myself I know very well how addictive it is...

BUT, to smoke in the dug out, amongst your colleagues and eith children watching doesn't make you a Bad Ass... quiet the contrary.

1. It sets an extremely poor example to youngsters watching.
2. It is harmful to others around you which is also selfish
3. Shows that you don't have sufficient discipline
4. That you're extremely selfish

Regarding point 1, some of the comments here on PP show that he's clearly made a wrong impression on certain posters which means these posters are either impressionable kids or just so biased, lack a life and hence will support anyone, no matter what. Conversely these same posters show equal hatred towards players they dislike.

A very sad indictment

POTW.

Simple and crisp.

Its ridiculous how there are certain kids here who are thinking this as a macho thing. This same lot was the one crying about cake cuttings but see this as alright.

You are spot on, that fans have become so biased now adays, its not the act that matters anymore, its the person who involved.

Had this been Babar, Rizwan or Imam, same lot would have raised issue, bur are willing to give leverage and call this a macho move.

Pakistan has a very big smoking issue that is not being looked into right now. Any kid can go buy a cigarette from a shop there is no control and 8 of 10 guys are smokers. It such a bad situation, especially amongst young adults and teenagers.

 

[mominsaigol]

How can you go around making assumptions about me?

A sportsman is smoking in the dressing room. This is what the thread is about.

What agenda is there?

Just because you liek the cricketer who expect everyone to just priase him and ignore whatever stupid acts that person is doing?

I have given him credit where it was due, but this is wrong.

Its funny how you will go around talking about others being blind and consider yourself to be unbiased yet here you are claiming that a thread about a topic where the person is caught on camera doing something is agenda based

It's 100% agenda based. First of I've seen your past comments before the psl and during the psl where you outright said verbatim on hoe imad is the worst thing to ever happen to the psl, you've clearly shown your hatred.

Many people have failed during psl, many cricketers flunked yet you singled out Imad.

Its not rocket science to figure out agendas.

If imad didn't perform, you'd be making such comments again, it's just your playing it smart atm, and trying to be subtle. The irony part is coming from you and not me lol.

you haven't given him any credit WILLINGLY, it doesn't take a genuis to figure out how forced this is. I've never seen you ever say "Misbah is the worst thing to happen to pak cricket or ever singled out his innings where he didn't perform or where he made controversially backwards statements."

This whole farce honestly isn't as big of a deal you've portrayed it or made it out to be, in hindsight the tiktok videos are 10x worse since those videos are deliberately laughing at the face of loyal Pakistani fans and is outright insulting.

Why didn't you make a thread critiquing iftikhar when he outright claimed THIER IS NO DOUBT THAT WE ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD. is chacha not being disrespectful to other teams constantly acting like their inferior?

I can spot an agenda when I see one, it's as transparent as Mamoon's "If I was pcb chairman I'd do my best to destroy imad forever".

 

[IMMY69]

Alcohol existed during the time of the prophet and in the hadith he specifically mentioned no alcohol. The hadith is just as important as their the words of the prophet who God entrusted to spread the message in the first place.

Their different interpretations. Regardless this thread wasn't made in regards to smoking. It was clearly made because the poster has an agenda against imad and is secretly trying to latch onto some hate as @topspin clearly predicted.

Again, one for Timepass.
Hadith is man's interpretation.
The Quran teaches you to expand your mind, to fully yourself with knowledge.

We missed Imad at the World Cup.
On past and present form he should be in the side BUT let's not defend smoking around team members and staff

 

[mominsaigol]

Again, one for Timepass.
Hadith is man's interpretation.
The Wuran teaches you to expand your mind, to fully yourself with knowledge.

Brother this thread is about smoking in context to what a player did, none of these are timepass related.

Make a thread about imad smoking in timepass then.

Also you're completely incorrect.

Hadith is the words that came from the prophet himself.

Did you not study O level islamiat?

 

[MenInG]

No more discussion on smoking as haraam ot halal

 

[IMMY69]

Brother this thread is about smoking in context to what a player did, none of these are timepass related.

Make a thread about imad smoking in timepass then.

Also you're completely incorrect.

Hadith is the words that came from the prophet himself.

Did you not study O level islamiat?

I'm really not concerned with the Halal/Haram aspect. Not here to discuss hypocrisy.

You went over the actual point I made which is only related to Imad/cricket

 

[BouncerGuy]

I guess warning was already posted regarding this halal and haram thing. This thread is not suitable for this type of conversation. Please do not derail the thread else the irrelevant post has to be removed.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

Lol, gained respect for imad. Haha, well done. Smoked multan and then lit himself a cig, nice

 

[Misia]

If Imad wants to smoke then that's his personal choice. Actually it's not a choice, it's an addiction and as an ex smoker myself I know very well how addictive it is...

BUT, to smoke in the dug out, amongst your colleagues and eith children watching doesn't make you a Bad Ass... quiet the contrary.

1. It sets an extremely poor example to youngsters watching.
2. It is harmful to others around you which is also selfish
3. Shows that you don't have sufficient discipline
4. That you're extremely selfish

Regarding point 1, some of the comments here on PP show that he's clearly made a wrong impression on certain posters which means these posters are either impressionable kids or just so biased, lack a life and hence will support anyone, no matter what. Conversely these same posters show equal hatred towards players they dislike.

A very sad indictment

Bang on the money!

 

[mominsaigol]

Anyway back to topic, imad smoking means nothing, in hindsight the tiktok videos we made during the wc were a huge insult to every pakistani fan.

Imad smoking in a dressing room and a camera man taking a sneak peak when he shpuld have been focusing on the game instead, so what? Should we make a thread about cameramen invading privacy now?

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm actually going to debunk all arguments and show how hypocritical all of this is.

Argument 1: If a player did this in a Priemere league, they'd get banned.

Football and cricket are 2 different sports. Players before chess competitions like magnus carslen, or before snooker tournaments smoke and even drink alcohol all the time, magnus carlsen the worlds no 1 chess player showed up drunk to a tournament once and still won and no one complained.

Their completly different sports with different laws and rules, they don't equate, in cricket the rules clearly indicate no smoking on the field, omad didn't smoke on the field, and him smoking in the dug out, the management didn't care, including shadab Khan who was the captain.

Singling out inad doesn't make sense as by this logic the coaching staff and shadab Khan should also be equally banned and blamed. This automatically exposes the thread as agenda and propaganda based (not that the previous comments made about imad before the competition were any indicator)

Its clear as day imad getting 3 MOM has made fans angry so their latching on, I'm convinced if inad ate a choclate bar, fans would make a thread about how imad is eating choclate and inspiring millions of kids to get fat lol.

Argument 2: Imad smoking is wrong as kids are watching and they'll get inspired as they look up to these cricketers.

Fair enough, but the argument goes both ways then. Babar and his team making cringy tiktok videos and constantly doing cake cutting ceremonies, doesn't that send a bad message to the kids on fitness and giving false negative hope? Isn't that an entire insult to pakistani fans who look up to the team and the team responds with these meme worthy videos treating the world cup as a joke? What about selecting azam khan, doesn't that send a negative message on fitness standards to the kids watching?

What about rizwan claiming and demanding to bat at no 4? Doesn't that send negative messages to the kids watching on how not to represent team work?

If rizwan wanted to bat at no 4, or if babar and company wanted to take the world cup seriously why advertise it to the media and make a fool out of yourself?

Again why is only imad being singled out? In hindsight what pcb did during the World Cup is worse since their directly publishing the video on YouTube and tiktok to the World.

Imad being singled out makes zero sense in hindsight.

Lastly smoking and negative things happen all the time and is shown on tv and movies 24/7, imad isnt the first person in history that these kids are exposed to nor if he the first person on history to be their role models, if kids are getting inspired by this, then their parents are to blame, not imad.

All this proves is that the thread is clearly biased, and is clearly creating a toxic agenda deapite ironically claiming that the other party defending is the one with the toxic agenda or being biased.

 

[mominsaigol]

@topspin

Watch out bro, next thread is going to make headlines

" Imad negatively inspiring millions of kids to become obese as he was seen eating a cookie on camera."

 

[Major]

It's 100% agenda based. First of I've seen your past comments before the psl and during the psl where you outright said verbatim on hoe imad is the worst thing to ever happen to the psl, you've clearly shown your hatred.

Many people have failed during psl, many cricketers flunked yet you singled out Imad.

Its not rocket science to figure out agendas.

If imad didn't perform, you'd be making such comments again, it's just your playing it smart atm, and trying to be subtle. The irony part is coming from you and not me lol.

you haven't given him any credit WILLINGLY, it doesn't take a genuis to figure out how forced this is. I've never seen you ever say "Misbah is the worst thing to happen to pak cricket or ever singled out his innings where he didn't perform or where he made controversially backwards statements."

This whole farce honestly isn't as big of a deal you've portrayed it or made it out to be, in hindsight the tiktok videos are 10x worse since those videos are deliberately laughing at the face of loyal Pakistani fans and is outright insulting.

Why didn't you make a thread critiquing iftikhar when he outright claimed THIER IS NO DOUBT THAT WE ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD. is chacha not being disrespectful to other teams constantly acting like their inferior?

I can spot an agenda when I see one, it's as transparent as Mamoon's "If I was pcb chairman I'd do my best to destroy imad forever".

I critisize immad on the basis of performance.

He performed well so i welcome his selection in the national team.


The problem with eith alot of you posters is that you think if i critisize someone its become i hate him personally.

Bhai its on the basis of perfprmance. Imad was dropped for valid reason an if he gets selected it for valid reasons

 

[Rana]

@topspin

Watch out bro, next thread is going to make headlines

" Imad negatively inspiring millions of kids to become obese as he was seen eating a cookie on camera."

“Eating cookies is prohibited, my school of thought says so”

 

[topspin]

Alcohol existed during the time of the prophet and in the hadith he specifically mentioned no alcohol. The hadith is just as important as their the words of the prophet who God entrusted to spread the message in the first place.

Their different interpretations. Regardless this thread wasn't made in regards to smoking. It was clearly made because the poster has an agenda against imad and is secretly trying to latch onto some hate as @topspin clearly predicted.

As soon as this non-incident took place, I knew Major was going to behave like a Pakistani journalist.

He claims that it’s not agenda driven but the truth is he would never come up with this thread if it was Misbah smoking in the dressing room.

What’s hilarious is how he’s trying to compare this to Misbah’s cake cutting

 

[topspin]

@topspin

Watch out bro, next thread is going to make headlines

" Imad negatively inspiring millions of kids to become obese as he was seen eating a cookie on camera."

Shameless Pakistani journalist behaviour

 

[mominsaigol]

As soon as this non-incident took place, I knew Major was going to behave like a Pakistani journalist.

He claims that it’s not agenda driven but the truth is he would never come up with this thread if it was Misbah smoking in the dressing room.

What’s hilarious is how he’s trying to compare this to Misbah’s cake cutting

Brother, people are acting as if Imad is the first person on the planet to have smoked in TV. And kids watching will get inspired.

By this logic let's ban shadab and all of IU. Let's also ban magnus carslen the worlds greatest chess player.

Actually better idea, let's ban every single youtuber who has smoked on camera, let's also ban every single TV show and movie that has shown smoking,

Let's ban the Internet altogether, after all we're negatively inspiring kids.

Weird troll logic, it's the parents job to ensure kids don't get inspired, what babar did with the cake cutting ceremony is 100x worse then whatever imad did .

Kids have access to the Internet, they can easily access any information.

Imagine singling out imad but making his captain shadab and rizwan Duke it out in another thread.

 

[mominsaigol]

“Eating cookies is prohibited, my school of thought says so”

Naw bro, its all about interpretation, remember it is said to not have anything harmful to your body, and cookies are sugar induced so they make you fat and have heart disease by increasing cholesterol and blood pressure, therefore cookies are banned.

 

[topspin]

Yes I mean yourself, Mamoon and Major have been agreeing with each other as if your views align with Aristotle on subject matters

Pot kettle black are the words that come to mind with the way he was on his Imad bashing drive with his posts/likes.