[PICTURES/VIDEOS] The Pakistan-Afghanistan cricket rivalry

[Kriketer]

Not at all. Major is creating a mountain out of a molehill. Majority of Pakistanis consider Afghan as our brothers and sisters. Sure proxy wars haven't done good politically but general public in Pakistan has no animosity against Afghanistan. There are some abusive Afghan which you can see on social media and at ground but that is because they are ignorant.

We train them, play them in our domestic, provide coaches etc and take Afghan game just like any other game. The are also a developing team and it's good to see them getting better at cricket. This is nothing in compared to Pak vs India games.

 

[Grunge101]

The pictures in the opening post don't depict what happened.im sure someone will come up with a video clip of the incident. Fareed instigated it by shouting in Asif Alis face .

 

[Slim]

Ethnically people in Pakistan hate Afghans for good reason but they are not even worth mentioning as someone to worry about let alone a “rival” team in cricket.

 

[Anis Shivani]

Once they win a few matches against us, it will turn into an outstanding rivalry.

 

[Fenrir]

There is no rivalry between Afghanistan and Pakistan.Afghans are new to cricket,Pakistan has been playing since 1950s.At one stage Pakistan and India had rivalry but now they don’t play each other except in ICC tournaments.I don’t think there is any rivalry between Afghanistan and any other team.

 

[Varun]

Just a matter of time before Afghanistan wins some game vs Pakistan - like Bangladesh did vs India in 2007.

 

[Mainul]

Nevertheless it was a fantastic match to watch. Cricket is the winner. Feeling sorry for the Afghanistan brothers. Your team has won our hearts. A great team in the making.

It has been the best Asia cup in history so far. Lots of thrilling encounters.

The vibrant croud, the electrifying atmosphere,the rivalry, nail biting finish ..all are there. Suncontinent cricket has always been the best ,beats trans Tasman ,trans ashes south Africa and carribbean cricket by miles.

 

[pakistani pride]

LOL what rivalry?
One team always wins. You cant call that a rivalry.

 

[ElRaja]

speaking to ppl at the game there is a lot of ill feeling, yes ppl will make videos about how both people are brothers and what not, but brothers can hate too, and its obvious some minority of afghans really hate Pakistanis. it is what it is, you have to accept it.

 

[Savak]

Major is talking through is behind. A lot of Pakistani men from the kpk province and Balochistan province have married Afghan girls and a lot of Afghan men have married Pakistani men from the kpk province and Balochistan province in Pakistan.

There is no racism at all.

 

[ChTab]

Exactly. And pcb can milk this just by having it played in kpk.

Exactly, as soon as Hayatabad/Arbab stadium is done, PCB should invite them.

 

[ChTab]

Pakistan-Afghanistan is possibly a bigger rivalry than India-Pak rivalry and I thought that before today's thriller of a game.

I don't think this rivalry can surpass Ind-Pak but it has potential to surpass ASHES, the level of animosity between both sets of fans is somewhat unknown in cricket.

 

[ChTab]

LOL what rivalry?
One team always wins. You cant call that a rivalry.

Until recently India always won vs Pakistan in world cups so by your logic there wasn't any rivalry there as well?

 

[Major]

Major is talking through is behind. A lot of Pakistani men from the kpk province and Balochistan province have married Afghan girls and a lot of Afghan men have married Pakistani men from the kpk province and Balochistan province in Pakistan.

There is no racism at all.

i think its better for you to read this thread and see the racism and hatred before you talk through your behind

 

[Snowflake]

Until recently India always won vs Pakistan in world cups so by your logic there wasn't any rivalry there as well?

So, you're saying India vs Pakistan rivalry was based on the 12 (or so?) WC matches they played? )

Amazing argument!

 

[Snowflake]

Don't deny it .. everybody saw how you celebrated today's win.

Oh I was over the moon, but how does that mean there is a rivalry? Tomorrow, if Australians abuse the heck out of our side, and we go on to win the game...I'll celebrate with even more passion. Not because there's a rivalry, but because we gave it back to a absuvie and disrespectful opponent.

Rivalries are based on history, performance, and equal footing. None of that exists between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

 

[sweep_shot]

Quite a few close games since 2019 World Cup. But, Pakistan won all.

So, this is a rivalry but quite one-sided in terms of results.

 

[Snowflake]

Its no secret that Afghan fans dont like Pakistan due to political reasons, and Pakistani fans also have resentment towards afghan fans because they expect them to kiss up to them rather than india but it doesnt happen.

Each time we see them play, the stadium gets sold out, oh and there are brawls that take place around the stadium and on the streets aswell.

Afghanistan has never won an international crickrt match against Pakistan and are desperately waiting to do so. Interestingly, whenevr botha re playing, there have been very close encounters with Pakistan winning.

While Pakistani fans wont admit to this, surely a new rivalry is being developed in international cricket which can be milked in future

Sporting rivalries aren't created by one side of fans bashing the other side every time they play. Or one team acting like a bunch of hooligans on the field.

Rivalries are created based on history, context, performance, competitiveness etc. None of the ingredients for a rivalry exist between Pak and Afg. A set of roudy, uneducated, borderline criminal fans are not enough to make a rivalry.

 

[Major]

Sporting rivalries aren't created by one side of fans bashing the other side every time they play. Or one team acting like a bunch of hooligans on the field.

Rivalries are created based on history, context, performance, competitiveness etc. None of the ingredients for a rivalry exist between Pak and Afg. A set of roudy, uneducated, borderline criminal fans are not enough to make a rivalry.

there is political history, and the performance has always been top notched. Pakistan cant manage to win easily agaisnt them.

Pakistan has never won a world cup game against India. Does that mean the next WC game agaisnt them in odi would be a regular match? If we go by your logic

You can insult the Afghanis as much as you want, you are only showing your hatred towards them nothing else.

Just because 5 out of 100 may act out doesnt mean you generalize.

 

[shamaan]

there is political history, and the performance has always been top notched. Pakistan cant manage to win easily agaisnt them.

Pakistan has never won a world cup game against India. Does that mean the next WC game agaisnt them in odi would be a regular match? If we go by your logic

You can insult the Afghanis as much as you want, you are only showing your hatred towards them nothing else.

Just because 5 out of 100 may act out doesnt mean you generalize.

What about the hatred from the afgan fans from the stadium no comment regarding that.

 

[Fenrir]

Until recently India always won vs Pakistan in world cups so by your logic there wasn't any rivalry there as well?

India-Pakistan rivalry is due to political issues between them.Anyway in bilateral series Pakistan has more victories against India.There is no rivalry between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

 

[pakistani pride]

Until recently India always won vs Pakistan in world cups so by your logic there wasn't any rivalry there as well?

LOL india vs pak has seen so many big games. Just look at the test matches they have had. The WC thing only really started post 2003. Before that nobody talked about the streak but the rivalry was super intense during the 80s, 90s, 2000s.

India vs pak is the mother of all games. There are so many moments. The WCs are just one of them.

 

[adzzy786]

Its no secret that Afghan fans dont like Pakistan due to political reasons, and Pakistani fans also have resentment towards afghan fans because they expect them to kiss up to them rather than india but it doesnt happen.

Each time we see them play, the stadium gets sold out, oh and there are brawls that take place around the stadium and on the streets aswell.

Afghanistan has never won an international crickrt match against Pakistan and are desperately waiting to do so. Interestingly, whenevr botha re playing, there have been very close encounters with Pakistan winning.

While Pakistani fans wont admit to this, surely a new rivalry is being developed in international cricket which can be milked in future

Pakistan fans don’t ‘EXPECT’ them to kiss up to us. Their behaviour, hate etc puts us in a position where we feel a dislike towards them. I had nothing but love towards Afghan people and support for their cricket. Now I don’t feel the same

 

[Champ_Pal]

Relax and appreciate the great battle which tested the nerves of all cricket fans irrespective of which country they belong to. Kudos to both teams for such a fantastic battle.

 

[ali-abbas123]

There’s a lot of lifelong cricket supporters on this forum. We’ve seen some ugly incidents over the years. However I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed such behaviour so consistently like we’ve seen with Afghan fans. You lost, take it on the chin and move on. A minority of afghan cricket fans appear to be young, dumb, uneducated men looking for a fight against families that are out to support the Pakistani team. It’s a game of cricket. If there’s genuine hatred towards Pakistan due to geopolitics, go and fight the PAK army on the border. It’s honestly foolish. Cricket is a gentleman's game. They need to show some class and dignity. UAE police needs to slam them for a few years or deport them back to Afghanistan. Yes, they are junglees

 

[pillionrider]

There was another game in the WC 2019 I think where Afghanistan came really close to winning but their captain or someone decided to bowl and made a fool of himself. Afghanistan seem desperate to win vs Pakistan and that makes them lose their minds I feel when they are right at the brink of it. Meanwhile, Pakistan seem to carry the burden and fear of losing vs Afg and inevitably get the jitters . Their overall superior quality and experience though has managed to help them so far. But the day isn't far when Afghanistan start getting the odd upset vs India and Pakistan in tournaments.

 

[MenInG]

Major - stay off political bits when talking about this.

ALL

Do not post tweets from non cricketers

 

[Nikhil_cric]

The way Naseem, Hasan etc. were pumped after the win shows how fierce the rivalry is. Even some Afghan players were crying.

 

[Fenrir]

The way Naseem, Hasan etc. were pumped after the win shows how fierce the rivalry is. Even some Afghan players were crying.

There is no rivalry.Teams want to win competitions so players are pumped up.It happens in football too.Big teams are pumped up against small teams.If Afghans keep improving then they will win against bigger teams.Zimbabwe beat Australia.Ireland thrashed England a few years ago.

 

[Mamoon]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

 

[daytrader]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

Isn't t20 cricket though just a fluke? Any victory by Afghanistan over Pakistan will come through sheer luck. Will be hard for them to beat us in cricket formats that require actual skill, long way to go before we see that

 

[daytrader]

The way Naseem, Hasan etc. were pumped after the win shows how fierce the rivalry is. Even some Afghan players were crying.

We have young guns who carry their emotions on their sleeves. They were pumped because of how we won after being almost knocked out, not because of victory over Afghanistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

Why would you feel for Afghanistan team or their fans? By your own reckoning they had four great opportunities to win against Pakistan and bottled it every time.

If and when they win there will be nothing to be embarrassed about. They have some talented cricketers, if they go on to be a better team good luck to them. At the moment they still look very undeveloped and are just as likely to lose to Scotland as win against Pakistan.

 

[Technics 1210]

Afghanistan will never forget those 2 sixes, and neither will India.

Naseem Shah dispatched 2 nations in 2 sixes.

 

[Technics 1210]

Pakistan and India have played 160 matches over 75 year history. How are we comparing it to Pakistan-Afghanistan's?

I wouldn't bother, only Indian fans pigeon hole to WC stats, because WC stats is all India have over Pakistan in 75 years of cricket.

 

[Snowflake]

there is political history, and the performance has always been top notched. Pakistan cant manage to win easily agaisnt them.

Pakistan has never won a world cup game against India. Does that mean the next WC game agaisnt them in odi would be a regular match? If we go by your logic

You can insult the Afghanis as much as you want, you are only showing your hatred towards them nothing else.

Just because 5 out of 100 may act out doesnt mean you generalize.

Oh man, you would really say anything just for arguments sake, won't you?

If the performance had been top notch, they'd have manage to secure at least one victory over Pak by now?

Do you actually mean what you type? India and Pakistan's rivalry is not BASED ON the handful of WC matches they have played. Rivalries are also not format specific. Oh, India is our biggest rival in bilaterals and tests, but not in the WCs - you hear how dumb that sounds? India and Pak WC games are big, even with a lopsided tally, because of the history between the two teams.

Insulting them, as you call it, on an online forum is still better than smacking chairs and their heads in the stadium. Yeah, sure, it was just 5 Afghan fans... 5 in UK during the WC, 5 at the T20 WC, and then 5 at the Asia Cup... sure!

 

[Champ_Pal]

Pakistan and Afghanistan must play a T20 series in England or UAE. That will draw huge crowds. Milk the rivalry to the max and both boards will make lots of money.

 

[Snowflake]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

With the amount of embarrassment you feel from almost every other thing; I wonder how you live your life. You're probably a very complexed individual who doesn't have much self-respect for themselves. Every other thing is either a source of embarrassment or humiliation for you.

Chill out! It's just a sport.

 

[Kriketer]

I don't think this rivalry can surpass Ind-Pak but it has potential to surpass ASHES, the level of animosity between both sets of fans is somewhat unknown in cricket.

Haha both sets of fans? What part of Pakistanis take it just like any other game and behave normal in Afghan games don't you understand? If a few Afghans act like animals because they are jahil and love licking boots to the neighbors on the other side of Pakistan, that doesn't make it a rivalry neither animosity among general public

 

[Kriketer]

Until recently India always won vs Pakistan in world cups so by your logic there wasn't any rivalry there as well?

India always won? Lol are you 6 years old?

Pakistan has thrashed India many more times, rivalry been always there between the two and Pakistan has come out stronger by winning most of the games. Head to head stats speak for itself

 

[Kriketer]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

Here comes the usual rona dhona from the usual pessimist poster. Afghanistan is getting better as a cricket team and they give competition to majority of the teams now in short formats (other than India for obvious reasons

We Pakistanis honestly appreciate the fact that Afghanistan is improving in cricket and our games against them have been cracker off late which is another plus. I understand you are not over your beloved men in blue packing early to Mumbai Airport so you have to post your comical usuals to calm down your nerves

 

[Major]

Oh man, you would really say anything just for arguments sake, won't you?

If the performance had been top notch, they'd have manage to secure at least one victory over Pak by now?

Do you actually mean what you type? India and Pakistan's rivalry is not BASED ON the handful of WC matches they have played. Rivalries are also not format specific. Oh, India is our biggest rival in bilaterals and tests, but not in the WCs - you hear how dumb that sounds? India and Pak WC games are big, even with a lopsided tally, because of the history between the two teams.

Insulting them, as you call it, on an online forum is still better than smacking chairs and their heads in the stadium. Yeah, sure, it was just 5 Afghan fans... 5 in UK during the WC, 5 at the T20 WC, and then 5 at the Asia Cup... sure!

I think you have issue reading and understanding. 5 out of 100 is a ratio, do you really think there were 100 afghan fans? Atleast do bother to understand before rumbling about a point.

Pakistan had to play till the last minute to defeat afghanistan in the last 4 games. It hasnt been a walk to the park for them. Teams rank low mever have good bowling attacks while afghanistan has a great bowling attack that does well.

If you are gonna use the lame excuse that its not a rovalry due to wins, than a pak vs india match is just a regular match in the world cup because currently like it or not pakistan is still yet to defeat india in a world cup.

The way pakistan celwbrated each time against afghanistan and the hype, its a rivalry. You can go on about to claim how it is not just to claim superiority but the celebrations show it is.

No one talked about how pakistan bottled a simple run chase because everyone was excited on this win against a rivalry that is developing.

Saying thay insulting and being racists is ok, just shows how you are no different comapred to the chair breakers

 

[Major]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

They are not gonna accep it. Its a matter of superiority for pakistani fans.

Also, its not as if pakistani fans didnt cross a lline. Pakistanis everywhere even around here threw racist remarks and are still throwing insults towards afghans.

Pakistanis just want a reason to come out of the closet and show their racism. What thw afghan fans in the stadium did was wrong, but that does not justify the racism by our side.

 

[Snowflake]

I think you have issue reading and understanding. 5 out of 100 is a ratio, do you really think there were 100 afghan fans? Atleast do bother to understand before rumbling about a point.

Pakistan had to play till the last minute to defeat afghanistan in the last 4 games. It hasnt been a walk to the park for them. Teams rank low mever have good bowling attacks while afghanistan has a great bowling attack that does well.

If you are gonna use the lame excuse that its not a rovalry due to wins, than a pak vs india match is just a regular match in the world cup because currently like it or not pakistan is still yet to defeat india in a world cup.

The way pakistan celwbrated each time against afghanistan and the hype, its a rivalry. You can go on about to claim how it is not just to claim superiority but the celebrations show it is.

No one talked about how pakistan bottled a simple run chase because everyone was excited on this win against a rivalry that is developing.

Saying thay insulting and being racists is ok, just shows how you are no different comapred to the chair breakers

Ratios aren't expressed in terms of "out of" - 5 to 100 is the correct way. Don't give me lessons on understanding while you lack basic writing skills yourself. Also, making it a ratio doesn't help your argument at all )

Last minute or the first minute, fact is that Afg in this "rivalry" have yet to score a point. Deal with it!

So, you just repeated the India vs Pak example in the WC, hoping that it would magically make sense now? Go back and read my post again; explaining why its an idiotic comparison like most of your posts in this thread.

Celebrations were due to the behavior of the Afghan fans and teams. Look at how our team celebrated the 2019 WC win - zero emotions because on field behavior by the Afghans was not animalistic.

I, and other Pakistanis, are very different to the chair throwing hooligans because we never did it. Until we do the same thing, your words mean nothing.

 

[Snowflake]

If you are gonna use the lame excuse that its not a rovalry due to wins, than a pak vs india match is just a regular match in the world cup because currently like it or not pakistan is still yet to defeat india in a world cup.

Along with basic comprehension capabilities, have you also lost your memory? Pakistan defeated India in a WC game very recently. Or are you now going to say that we're just talking about the 50 over WC? )

 

[Technics 1210]

Wait, Pakistan have defeated Indian in a world cup - 152/0.

In before, T20WC isn’t a WC. )

 

[Snowflake]

Wait, Pakistan have defeated Indian in a world cup - 152/0.

In before, T20WC isn’t a WC. )

He is trying to argue by saying that if rivalries are based on results, then Pak vs India is not a rivalry because we haven't beaten them in a WC )

Apart from that statement being factually incorrect, I have tried explaining to him how that's an illogical argument to begin with because 1) rivalries are not format specific 2) India and Pak have a rich history outside of WCs, which is the basis of the rivalry.

I guess it's a logic a little to complex for his mind to comprehend.

 

[Kriketer]

They are not gonna accep it. Its a matter of superiority for pakistani fans.

Also, its not as if pakistani fans didnt cross a lline. Pakistanis everywhere even around here threw racist remarks and are still throwing insults towards afghans.

Pakistanis just want a reason to come out of the closet and show their racism. What thw afghan fans in the stadium did was wrong, but that does not justify the racism by our side.

Where exactly are Pakistani throwing insults at Afghans? You are trying too hard to look for spice here for your lame thread, something that just doesn't exist.

Where are Pakistani calling and insulting Afghans? They are only referring to fans who behave wild by attacking other spectators, that is obviously crossing all the line and calling out a few for their wild behavior doesn't start up a rivalry. Pakistanis don't treat this as a rivalry and majority of Pakistan consider Afghans as our brothers despite some of them misbehaving wildly. Latest news is that Sharjah police has arrested dozens of Afghans for causing havoc at the stadium.. They will likely get packed and sent back home, they will learn their lesson that way

 

[Major]

Along with basic comprehension capabilities, have you also lost your memory? Pakistan defeated India in a WC game very recently. Or are you now going to say that we're just talking about the 50 over WC? )

World t20 is not an odi world cup. If it was, younis khan would had been respected as much as imran


The losing streak still stands

 

[Major]

Ratios aren't expressed in terms of "out of" - 5 to 100 is the correct way. Don't give me lessons on understanding while you lack basic writing skills yourself. Also, making it a ratio doesn't help your argument at all )

Last minute or the first minute, fact is that Afg in this "rivalry" have yet to score a point. Deal with it!

So, you just repeated the India vs Pak example in the WC, hoping that it would magically make sense now? Go back and read my post again; explaining why its an idiotic comparison like most of your posts in this thread.

Celebrations were due to the behavior of the Afghan fans and teams. Look at how our team celebrated the 2019 WC win - zero emotions because on field behavior by the Afghans was not animalistic.

I, and other Pakistanis, are very different to the chair throwing hooligans because we never did it. Until we do the same thing, your words mean nothing.

Its a rivalry whether you like it or not.

Im not gonna discuss anything with you further as you cant comment on the poster and comment more on the poster and support throwing racist slurs to which you accepted here as being ok..

 

[Major]

Where exactly are Pakistani throwing insults at Afghans? You are trying too hard to look for spice here for your lame thread, something that just doesn't exist.

Where are Pakistani calling and insulting Afghans? They are only referring to fans who behave wild by attacking other spectators, that is obviously crossing all the line and calling out a few for their wild behavior doesn't start up a rivalry. Pakistanis don't treat this as a rivalry and majority of Pakistan consider Afghans as our brothers despite some of them misbehaving wildly. Latest news is that Sharjah police has arrested dozens of Afghans for causing havoc at the stadium.. They will likely get packed and sent back home, they will learn their lesson that way

You can go aroun on social media and on threads. If you want to turn a blind eye towards the insults than you are also part of the problem.

Yeh the pakistanis treating them as brothers, saw the closet racism come out that says otherwise

 

[TheSultan]

There is no rivalry from Pakistan’s side. Afghanistan want it to be, but it really isn’t. Most Pakistanis (fans and players both) supported Afghanistan and we were rooting for them when they got international status. The behaviour of Afghani fans and players was an eye opener in 2019.

Afghanistan should concentrate on trying harder when they play India. You can’t just turn up vs Pakistan and gift matches to India. India obv would beat Afghanistan anyway, but the lack of intensity by the Afghanis Vs India is striking.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

I think it's become a rivalry because of the poor behaviour of Afghan fans. Now we Pakistanis want to crush Afghanistan because of their poor behaviour.

It's become a rivalry, yes. But not in the same sense as an Indian-Pakistani rivalry. It's more like, let's beat these neanderthals.

 

[ZaidTR]

Ratios aren't expressed in terms of "out of" - 5 to 100 is the correct way. Don't give me lessons on understanding while you lack basic writing skills yourself. Also, making it a ratio doesn't help your argument at all )

Last minute or the first minute, fact is that Afg in this "rivalry" have yet to score a point. Deal with it!

So, you just repeated the India vs Pak example in the WC, hoping that it would magically make sense now? Go back and read my post again; explaining why its an idiotic comparison like most of your posts in this thread.

Celebrations were due to the behavior of the Afghan fans and teams. Look at how our team celebrated the 2019 WC win - zero emotions because on field behavior by the Afghans was not animalistic.

I, and other Pakistanis, are very different to the chair throwing hooligans because we never did it. Until we do the same thing, your words mean nothing.

Well said

 

[ElRaja]

naseem was pumped because the whole game Pakistan were winning and was played in good spirits, as soon as afg thought it was in the bag they started abusing asif, naseem and hasnain.

naseem has never lost his cool like that, and i believe the person who told me, naseem said he has never been verbally abused like that on a cricket field like the last two or three overs.

this is not a rivalry because when pak lose i don't think anyone will lose sleep over it, it'll happen eventually, but its the attitude, and the blatent hatred that boiled over, when afg were close to winning, which says everything.

people have a right to their opinion, but if u are a Pakistani, especially a Punjabi Pakistani, u know at the very least, a sizable minority of afghanis have a strong sense of contempt for you, and it's palpable.

 

[Sirris]

this is not a cricket rivalry. It is political frustration and populism being played out on the cricket field.

The previous regime blamed all the ills in Afghanistan on Pakistan. This is the fruit of decades of calculated propaganda.

People of Pakistan need to remain calm and not give in to blind hatred.

 

[Markhor]

Brother, afghans dont owe pakistan anything. Just because we allowed their cricketers to play or we helped them with coaching means nothing when we have played a hand in destroying their whole country.

even if we ignore that, Afghans in Pakistan are mistreated with racism.

I remember during my club days, security forces used to treat afghans with batameez and hate on them for no reason.

Pakistani fans get annoyed that afghans appreciate india more than us. The reason for that is simple, india has done meaningful investment in there country which is why they appreciate them more.

Thus, this resentment has increased from both sides. Pakistanis arnt angels.

Yes there was violance in headingly, but in dubai, there were large number of afghans but not really any violence.

I don't condone any anti-Afghan racism and accept Pakistan's government has committed misdeeds in Afghanistan, but that doesn't give their fans the right to vent their frustrations on innocent fans in Leeds or Dubai.

An isolated one-off incident is one thing but it's the third time there's been violence instigated by their supporters.

 

[Fenrir]

this is not a cricket rivalry. It is political frustration and populism being played out on the cricket field.

The previous regime blamed all the ills in Afghanistan on Pakistan. This is the fruit of decades of calculated propaganda.

People of Pakistan need to remain calm and not give in to blind hatred.

You are spot on.The previous regime was fiercely anti-Pakistan and pro-India.After the ouster of Taliban(after 9/11) the Afghan government spread propaganda against Pakistan.It used the media and influential people like teachers,politicians and government officials to creative a negative perception of Pakistan.The brainwashed people into believing that Pakistan was responsible for all of Afghanistan’s problems.There is no rivalry but resentment and animosity towards Pakistan.Pakistanis are not anti Afghan but many Afghans are anti Pakistan.

 

[Saj]

What rivalry?

Pakistan has played Afghanistan 7 times and won 7 times.

 

[Sirris]

You are spot on.The previous regime was fiercely anti-Pakistan and pro-India.After the ouster of Taliban(after 9/11) the Afghan government spread propaganda against Pakistan.It used the media and influential people like teachers,politicians and government officials to creative a negative perception of Pakistan.The brainwashed people into believing that Pakistan was responsible for all of Afghanistan’s problems.There is no rivalry but resentment and animosity towards Pakistan.Pakistanis are not anti Afghan but many Afghans are anti Pakistan.

Pakistan DID use Afghanistan for its own interest.
Just like:

USA
India
Iran
Soviet Union

The current Afghan cricket team is an orphaned child of the previous regime. One obvious sign is their insistence on using the old Afghanistan flag and anthem, while the rest of Afghanistan has a different flag now. Therefore the “fans” of the team are most likely going to be supporters of the previous regime as well, hence their behaviour and attitude.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Pakistan and india dont meet much.

We never won anaything against india in an actual world cup, does that mean when india faces us in odi world cup, that is not a rivalry than?

This rivalry is a one that is developing and is in progress.

Seems like an old comment. As Pakistan has beaten India in a T20 World cup. But it is an India- Pakistan rivalry not an 'India Pakistan world cup Rivalry'
In stats results are never cherry Picked. Indians stress on the world cup record only because they have yet to take over Pakistan's superior overall Odi and Test records. They are only ahead in T20s. A world cup Odi or T20 does not count as more than any other Odi or T20.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Rivalry? Is this like the Pakistan BD rivalry?

 

[Slim]

What rivalry?

Pakistan has played Afghanistan 7 times and won 7 times.

Only rivalry in the head of hidden afghanis amongst us.

 

[SalimBhai]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

In t-20 cricket yes. I think its much easier to progress in that format. Afghan have a long way to go to go in Test cricket

 

[SalimBhai]

I think it will turn into a big rivalry in T-20 and maybe 50-50 cricket. The afghans HATE Pakistanis at this moment.

 

[Snowflake]

"The game, which became ill-tempered towards the end, also saw crowd trouble after Pakistan won in dramatic fashion by one wicket thanks to two sixes by Naseem Shah off the first two balls of the 20th over. Several Afghanistan fans were detained by police following altercations in the stands, though no arrests were made." - cricinfo


[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION], I am sure it was only a ratio of "5 to 100" that were detained. Also, I bet the police didn't notice all the Pakistani fans who "might have instigated this". Racist UAE police!

 

[Kroll]

Just watched highlights as I missed some of the match. Brilliant scenes at the end.

Oh and get it right up ye ya Afghan clowns.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think it will turn into a big rivalry in T-20 and maybe 50-50 cricket. The afghans HATE Pakistanis at this moment.

That's not a cricket rivalry, it has nothing to do with the sport. It's just a sickness in their society like bacha baazi. I don't entirely blame Afghan people for this, they have lived under warlords and perverts for too long, it has clearly led to an animalistic society where chaos is a way of life. They need to learn to respect law and order, and also how to honour fellow Muslims. It is probably this which has seen the rise of the Taliban over the last few decades, ordinary people just want some respite from the hate fuelled violence in that country.

 

[Mp812]

The rivalry will happen in future. Pakistan have just about managed to sneak wins on last few encounters. Someday that will change. Egoes will get hurt and there will be denial the day Afghanistan win. Then the real rivallry will begin

 

[Varun]

Are Pakistan and Afghanistan set to clash in the WT20?

I mean it's one thing to see this happen in places like the UAE and the UK, it's another to see it in Australia. Hope not!

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pak vs Afghan

SL vs BD

India is left with honkong lol

 

[Cric1234]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

They aren’t it’s a long time until Afghanistan will be genuine contenders for the World Cup and win one they drew an ODI against India aswell Pakistan still has won each match they have played against them.

Eventually any team playing for long enough can win matches against other teams like Bangladesh have but becoming a top team or winning a World Cup is beyond the capabilities of these teams and will remain so for a long time decades probably until one of Afg Ban or other teams apart from the top 8 can win a trophy.

 

[Major]

That's not a cricket rivalry, it has nothing to do with the sport. It's just a sickness in their society like bacha baazi. I don't entirely blame Afghan people for this, they have lived under warlords and perverts for too long, it has clearly led to an animalistic society where chaos is a way of life. They need to learn to respect law and order, and also how to honour fellow Muslims. It is probably this which has seen the rise of the Taliban over the last few decades, ordinary people just want some respite from the hate fuelled violence in that country.

And the racism and abuse continues.....

Than we say there is no rivalry....

 

[Major]

"The game, which became ill-tempered towards the end, also saw crowd trouble after Pakistan won in dramatic fashion by one wicket thanks to two sixes by Naseem Shah off the first two balls of the 20th over. Several Afghanistan fans were detained by police following altercations in the stands, though no arrests were made." - cricinfo


[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION], I am sure it was only a ratio of "5 to 100" that were detained. Also, I bet the police didn't notice all the Pakistani fans who "might have instigated this". Racist UAE police!

Where did i said pakistani fans in the stadium instigated this?

You seem to have a problem that it was 5 out of 100 afghans. You want to pin this on 100% of the afghans.

Watch videos on social media, there were alot of afghans who just left the stadium chin up and didnt say bad words. There are videos.

Not every afghan was involved in this. Yet because you hate them you want to pin this on every afghan in the stadium

 

[Waleed93]

This rivalry is a source of embarrassment for Pakistan cricket - in just 8-7 years, Afghanistan has closed the gap to the point where they are at par with the Pakistan team. This clearly shows the lack of progress made by Pakistan cricket.

You have to feel for the Afghan players and fans - they have dominated, outclassed Pakistan in the last 4 encounters only for Pakistan to get lucky and sneaks wins on all 4 occasions.

It is only a matter of time before Afghanistan scores a well-deserved victory over Pakistan and they will have every right to celebrate with passion.

I admire the passion of their fans but they crossed the line yesterday. Attacking Pakistanis fans (regardless of who started it and who provoked etc.) with the chairs was completely unacceptable and the authorities will probably ban these people for life.

I remember you saying that Bangladesh will catch up and eventually go past Pakistan as a cricket team when they won against us in the 2018 Asia Cup.

What happened to that prophecy of yours ?

Now you are trying to bet on Afghans.

 

[daytrader]

Stick to cricket please. Political posts will be deleted

 

[Waleed93]

The world saw hundreds of Afghans trying to storm into Headingley and Dubai stadiums without tickets, physically assaulting Pakistani fans which included elders, women and children, throwing projectiles, chairs at Pakistani fans, chanting anti-Pakistan slogans.

But according to Major, they were only a minority.

So please, don't generalize an otherwise angelic community.

As Major said, you can't blame 100 people for the stupidity of 5 of them (even if they were more than 100).

 

[IAJ]

Lol these Afghani fans attacking pakistani fans for the third time think they are som super warriors. They keep attacking people there with families who just want to enjoy a game of cricket. And mostly these afhanis are young and single/alone and don't care about the consequences.

What if thousands of young pakistanis also go to the stadiums without children and families and be prepared for fights after the match?. These so called Afghani warriors will have no chance against them, to they are showing pure stupidity.

 

[Major]

Lol these Afghani fans attacking pakistani fans for the third time think they are som super warriors. They keep attacking people there with families who just want to enjoy a game of cricket. And mostly these afhanis are young and single/alone and don't care about the consequences.

What if thousands of young pakistanis also go to the stadiums without children and families and be prepared for fights after the match?. These so called Afghani warriors will have no chance against them, to they are showing pure stupidity.

There is no such thing as afghani people. Ironic you use the phrase stupidity...

 

[Major]

Even trt calls it a rivalry

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/w...stan-pakistan-cricket-rivalry-so-bitter-60610