[PICTURES] Why is the international community not paying attention to the threat of Hindu nationalist extremism globally?

[FearlessRoar]

It’s time we talk about a growing threat that’s been ignored for far too long: saffron and Hindutva extremism. As the world grapples with the ever-present challenge of extremism, why is there such a lack of attention on this ideology that’s linked to violence, extremism, and intimidation?

The rise of Hindutva, rooted in Hindu nationalism, has not only been a concern for India but is expanding its reach across borders. The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in India has been accused of pushing this dangerous ideology, resulting in the marginalization of minority communities like Muslims and Christians. The violence is real—whether it’s the 2002 Gujarat riots or attacks on religious minorities—Hindutva has fueled deep divisions and escalated hate-driven crimes.

But here’s the thing: this ideology isn’t just limited to India anymore. Hindutva groups are operating globally, in countries like the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada. These groups aren’t just organizing locally; they’re spreading hate speech, supporting divisive politics, and even funding extremism. It’s not just a distant issue—it’s right on our doorstep. In the U.S., these groups have reportedly channeled millions of dollars into influencing mainstream politics, sanitizing their ideology, and stifling opposition. This enables them to grow in strength while suppressing any meaningful criticism.

The troubling part? The global response has been muted. Countries, driven by their strategic interests in India, seem to be turning a blind eye to these human rights violations. The silence has only empowered the Indian government and Hindutva groups, allowing them to act with impunity. This isn't just a matter of political discourse; it's a matter of human rights, equality, and tolerance. We should be acknowledging the threat, but instead, it's being brushed under the carpet.

Even bodies like the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), which recognize the dangers of ethnically or racially motivated extremism, have been sluggish in addressing Hindutva extremism specifically. It's about time we demanded concrete actions from such international organizations to hold these groups accountable.

We need to start talking about this, raise awareness, and demand action from our governments. It's time to prioritize human rights over political expediency and recognize the global nature of Hindutva extremism. This threat is real, and it’s time we stop ignoring it.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Polls added

 

[sweep_shot]

Modern day Indian Saffronism is similar to what Nazism was in Germany back in 1930's and 1940's.

Both are toxic and destructive.

 

[Itachi]

It's because "hindutva terrorism" (?) is nothing compared to the damage that Islamic terrorism has caused destruction and fear that crippled generations after generations across the world.

 

[Itachi]

Polls added

It's pretty biased poll.

3. There's nothing called Hindutva terrorism and some people are expressing concern out of their agenda and NOT what is reality.

 

[Hitman]

They will the day Hindus achieve something like the below.

According to Fondapol, a French think tank, between 1979 and May 2021, at least 48,035 Islamist terrorist attacks took place worldwide, causing the deaths of at least 210,138 people. During this period, each Islamist attack resulted in the death of about 4.4 persons on average. The most common type of weapon used are explosives (43.9%). The main target of these attacks is the military (31.7%), followed by civilians (25.0%) and police forces (18.3%). Afghanistan was the country most affected by Islamist terrorism, followed by Iraq and Somalia. With at least 82 Islamist attacks and 332 deaths, France remains the country most affected by Islamist terrorism within the European Union. The majority of Islamist attacks (89.5%) were in Muslim countries and the victims were mainly Muslims, in the same proportions.​

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks

 

[Technics 1210]

The international community is starting to wake up to the realities of Hindutva/Saffron terrorism.

The 5Eyes have already done the international community a service by exposing Saffron terrorism on foreign soil.

Indian spies getting caught left right and centre. Saffron riots in Midlands.

Companies shifting away from India.

Economists exposing the fudging and fabrication of Indian data.

The of course Modi’s ban on religious terrorism seals the fate of Saffronis.

Our job as the international community is to expose the realities of India, Hindutva, and Saffron terror.

What helps is ironically the Indians immigrate (legal or illegal) because the greater the desperation the greater the awareness.

Though nothing tops the humiliation of WC23 where the world witnessed what Saffronis are really capable of.

The world knows, but what India doesn’t know, is once again, the West are pillaging India, only this time as a stepping stone to China.

Social media rip Indians apart daily, and it’s the indigenous West who do so.

Used, and abused - the story of a Hindutva Indian.

Hindu terrorism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40278200

Here is a peer-reviewed paper on Saffron terrorism https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17539153.2024.2354035

I will never let my neighbourhood our country turn Saffron - a failed ideology of 5000 years that is built ofnretribution and violence, that has failed time and time again, and is failing now.

It’s time to severe the snake.

 

[Technics 1210]

Modern day Indian Saffronism is similar to what Nazism was in Germany back in 1930's and 1940's.

Both are toxic and destructive.

Nazis turned a bankrupt Germany into a superpower in a decade. Saffronis meanwhile have overwhelmed the home offices around the world with their visa applications.

Nazis were proud Germans, Saffronis want to flee ‘incredible’ India.

The only thing Nazis and Hindutva have in-common is the Swatsika.

 

[Technics 1210]

Take a leaf out of the Western playbook - never negotiate, never oblige, and never give the attention to Saffron terrorists - just expose them! It is so easy cos all you have to do is lay out the truth, their documented history.

Ignore them, it hurts and kills them inside. Blank them cos they seek attention. Ban them, when they spew their terrorist ideology, and destroy them if they lay a hand on you.

Best practise - expose day after day, week after week, month after month - cos it is working!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It's not a big threat worldwide to be honest. There are a few local skirmishes between groups of Indian hooligans in different countries but it doesn't disrupt life for the majority of the people.

But it does make life hell in India for sure.

 

[IMMY69]

I think the world has opened its eyes.

Iraq, Syria, occupied Palestine are just the recent examples...

Pakistan too has fallen to a terrorist regime with the the help of the states (let's not forget Saddam himself was armed by America)...

Even Iran is where it is now due to western interference.

 

[Itachi]

When PP says "World"; it simply means western countries.

I've seen this deep rooted insecurity about seeking approval from western authorities by pakistanis. It used to be similar for Indians too but post 2010; it seems changing drastically where Indians have came out of this insecurity.

"Why the world hasn't recognised this?"

Why that's important for you? YOU HAVE RECOGNISED IT! YOU ARE PUTTING A VOICE AGAINST IT WHETHER YOU ARE ALONE OR A SMALL VOICE AMIDST A BIG CROWD. isn't that enough for you?

Will it be OK only if western countries says OK?

The slave mentality seemed to be running even after years and generations that have passed.

 

[Technics 1210]

Do not let Saffronis name drop Islam or any other religion. If they do then it means they are guilty and deep down know the truth, which is why they desperately attempt to deflect the facts by name dropping others!

 

[FearlessRoar]

It's not a big threat worldwide to be honest. There are a few local skirmishes between groups of Indian hooligans in different countries but it doesn't disrupt life for the majority of the people.

But it does make life hell in India for sure.

Hindutva, an ideology that emerged in the late 1920s, promotes the idea of Hindu racial superiority and aims to establish India as a Hindu nation-state. The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), founded in 1925, is the central organization behind this philosophy. The RSS positions itself as a strong proponent of nationalism, criticizing secularism and what it sees as excessive appeasement of Muslims, which it believes weakens the country's unity. Over the years, the RSS has expanded its influence by forming various affiliates that serve different segments of society, such as students, trade unions, women, and tribal groups. Key organizations linked to the RSS include the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP), Bharatiya Mazdoor Sangh (BMS), Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram (VKA), Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), Seva Bharti, and Bajrang Dal.

In 1951, the RSS entered politics by founding the Bharatiya Jana Sangh (BJS), which later became the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Although these organizations are formally separate, they share the same goal of creating a Hindu nation and often collaborate to promote this vision.

The reach of these Hindutva groups has extended beyond India, particularly to the United States, where organizations like the Vishwa Hindu Parishad of America (VHPA) operate. While legally independent, VHPA closely follows the ideological principles of its Indian counterpart. Additionally, the Global Hindu Heritage Foundation, based in Texas, works with groups like Bajrang Dal and VHP, with Bajrang Dal maintaining a more militant stance, yet still aligned with VHP.

Within India, these organizations are known to employ violent tactics to intimidate and marginalize minorities, especially Muslims. Their strategies include hate speech, lynchings, and mob violence, often orchestrated by a range of individuals from lone actors to organized militias and faith-based charities. Collectively, these groups are referred to as the Sangh Parivar, or the "Sangh family," unified by their common ideological goal.

Names of RSS Compliant Outfits Based Abroad

USA:

Bhutada Family Foundation (BFF)

Aggarwal Family Foundation (AFF)

Uberoi Foundation (UF)

Vishva Hindu Parishad America (VHPA)

Sewa International (SI)

Infinity Foundation (IF)

India Development and Relief Fund (IDRF)

Hindu American Foundation (HAF)

Global Hindu Heritage Foundation (GHHF)

UK:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

Australia:

Ekal Vidyalaya Foundation (EVF)

Nepal:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

Liberia:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

Kenya:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

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Organization Structure of the Sangh Parivar

Core Entity: RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh)

Political Wing: BJP (Overseas Friends of BJP - OFBJP)

Religious Wing: VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad America - VHPA)

Social Service Wing: Seva Vibhaag (IDRF - India Development and Relief Fund)

Related Organizations:

Sewa International

Sewa Bharati

Vidya Bharati

Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram

Ekal Vidyalaya Foundation

Vikas Bharati

Sanskrit Bharati

Militant Wing: Bajrang Dal (Hindu Unity)

 

[Bhaijaan]

This thread has massive own goal potential.

 

[Technics 1210]

Hindutva, an ideology that emerged in the late 1920s, promotes the idea of Hindu racial superiority and aims to establish India as a Hindu nation-state. The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), founded in 1925, is the central organization behind this philosophy. The RSS positions itself as a strong proponent of nationalism, criticizing secularism and what it sees as excessive appeasement of Muslims, which it believes weakens the country's unity. Over the years, the RSS has expanded its influence by forming various affiliates that serve different segments of society, such as students, trade unions, women, and tribal groups. Key organizations linked to the RSS include the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP), Bharatiya Mazdoor Sangh (BMS), Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram (VKA), Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), Seva Bharti, and Bajrang Dal.

In 1951, the RSS entered politics by founding the Bharatiya Jana Sangh (BJS), which later became the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Although these organizations are formally separate, they share the same goal of creating a Hindu nation and often collaborate to promote this vision.

The reach of these Hindutva groups has extended beyond India, particularly to the United States, where organizations like the Vishwa Hindu Parishad of America (VHPA) operate. While legally independent, VHPA closely follows the ideological principles of its Indian counterpart. Additionally, the Global Hindu Heritage Foundation, based in Texas, works with groups like Bajrang Dal and VHP, with Bajrang Dal maintaining a more militant stance, yet still aligned with VHP.

Within India, these organizations are known to employ violent tactics to intimidate and marginalize minorities, especially Muslims. Their strategies include hate speech, lynchings, and mob violence, often orchestrated by a range of individuals from lone actors to organized militias and faith-based charities. Collectively, these groups are referred to as the Sangh Parivar, or the "Sangh family," unified by their common ideological goal.

Names of RSS Compliant Outfits Based Abroad

USA:

Bhutada Family Foundation (BFF)

Aggarwal Family Foundation (AFF)

Uberoi Foundation (UF)

Vishva Hindu Parishad America (VHPA)

Sewa International (SI)

Infinity Foundation (IF)

India Development and Relief Fund (IDRF)

Hindu American Foundation (HAF)

Global Hindu Heritage Foundation (GHHF)

UK:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

Australia:

Ekal Vidyalaya Foundation (EVF)

Nepal:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

Liberia:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

Kenya:

Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh (HSS)

---

Organization Structure of the Sangh Parivar

Core Entity: RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh)

Political Wing: BJP (Overseas Friends of BJP - OFBJP)

Religious Wing: VHP (Vishwa Hindu Parishad America - VHPA)

Social Service Wing: Seva Vibhaag (IDRF - India Development and Relief Fund)

Related Organizations:

Sewa International

Sewa Bharati

Vidya Bharati

Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram

Ekal Vidyalaya Foundation

Vikas Bharati

Sanskrit Bharati

Militant Wing: Bajrang Dal (Hindu Unity)

Post of the YEAR!

To add, since 2014, India voted Modi as their Saffron leader, Hindutva terrorism has accelerated worldwide. When the people vote for a banned religious terrorist, it tells you everything you need to know about the people.

More so, the Hindutva cult have made forums, social media, and even cricket, toxic. They've made English neighbourhoods toxic. They've made travelling to cities/countries toxic with their cult members overwhelming cities.

The world must stand against Saffron terrorism!

 

[Technics 1210]

What more evidence of terrorism do you need than a member of the Hindutva cult (Godse) assassinating the founding father of India (Gandhi)!

You could argue at a time that Godse was a lone wolf, but he is revered within RSS! They have photos of a terrorist murder on their walls, and worship him!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Where is the terrorism? Just because pakistanis don't like anything doesn't mean is terrorism.

 

[Vikram1989]

Setting their own house on fire is much easier than constructing a new one.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Where is the terrorism? Just because pakistanis don't like anything doesn't mean is terrorism.

India the only country to elect religious extremist nut jobs .

Terrorism is the killing of people for political reasons, RSS vegetarian extremists have killed plenty, inc calling out raping of children .

Interestingly it’s only Hindu & Jewish extremists who call for rape openly against their targets . Why is this from a Hindutva point of view ?

 

[cricketjoshila]

India the only country to elect religious extremist nut jobs .

Terrorism is the killing of people for political reasons, RSS vegetarian extremists have killed plenty, inc calling out raping of children .

Interestingly it’s only Hindu & Jewish extremists who call for rape openly against their targets . Why is this from a Hindutva point of view ?

RSS or Hindus are not conducting terror attacks from Newyork to Europe to Asia to Australia. Guess who is doing it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

RSS or Hindus are not conducting terror attacks from Newyork to Europe to Asia to Australia. Guess who is doing it?

They are raping children in India & killing in India .

You’re not concerned about your own nation ?

 

[Technics 1210]

India the only country to elect religious extremist nut jobs .

Terrorism is the killing of people for political reasons, RSS vegetarian extremists have killed plenty, inc calling out raping of children .

Interestingly it’s only Hindu & Jewish extremists who call for rape openly against their targets . Why is this from a Hindutva point of view ?

Hindutva and Israelis both play the victim card, both dehumanize humans, both share history with the Swatsika, and both get caught with their tails between their legs, and then pretend it is someone else's fault!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Hindutva and israelis both play the victim card, both dehumanize humans, both share history with the Swatsika, and both get caught with their tails between their legs, and then pretend it is someone else's fault!

Both are also the most cowardly form of extremists as they like to attack the weak in any form . Rape as part of doctrine makes the KKK look like Disney characters.

They also demand their victims chant to their God , even though they won’t allow them to convert , again similar to Jewish extremism.

Another similarity is the skinny vegan Hindutva extremists & israelis have never seen a global empire in their respective religions which they claim to follow.

 

[Technics 1210]

Both are also the most cowardly form of extremists as they like to attack the weak in any form . Rape as part of doctrine makes the KKK look like Disney characters.

They also demand their victims chant to their God , even though they won’t allow them to convert , again similar to Jewish extremism.

Another similarity is the skinny vegan Hindutva extremists & israelis have never seen a global empire in their respective religions which they claim to follow.

Yup, and both Hindutva and israelis run disinformation and propaganda campaigns, duping the people into believing whatever they want them to.

This is why 99.999999% of the Hindutva Cult cannot speak or think for themselves. For this reason we get ad-hominem responses from them. Boiler plate, repetitive, copy and paste, rinse and repeat. They are the mouthpieces of their terrorist leaders.

Ironic, India wanted independence, and they got intellectual imprisonment in return.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's not a big threat worldwide to be honest. There are a few local skirmishes between groups of Indian hooligans in different countries but it doesn't disrupt life for the majority of the people.

But it does make life hell in India for sure.

This is it basically. Hindutva terror is mostly based around subcontinent, be that home based or places like Balochistan or Afghanistan. They have been quite tactical in not indulging in the middle east or western countries where a harsh response would follow. Although assassinating Sikhs abroad has got the attention of western powers, so Modi might have miscalculated there.

 

[amax]

It's not a big threat worldwide to be honest. There are a few local skirmishes between groups of Indian hooligans in different countries but it doesn't disrupt life for the majority of the people.

But it does make life hell in India for sure.

For Pakistan, this is a big issue, which means that to counter this expansionist, we need to dedicate a lot of the development budget to defense continuously.

 

[Hellion]

The West was blind to dangerous Islamist extremism and even allowed 3rd rate immigrants in for years. Why would they open their eyes now?

Wishful thinking.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

For Pakistan, this is a big issue, which means that to counter this expansionist, we need to dedicate a lot of the development budget to defense continuously.

Pakistan Establishment has never employed an anti hindutva strategy to be honest. Anti India for sure? But rarely used any religious language to describe them.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This is it basically. Hindutva terror is mostly based around subcontinent, be that home based or places like Balochistan or Afghanistan. They have been quite tactical in not indulging in the middle east or western countries where a harsh response would follow. Although assassinating Sikhs abroad has got the attention of western powers, so Modi might have miscalculated there.

I don't think Balochistan or Afghanistan is Hindutva either.

We shouldn't make the same mistakes Indians and western countries do where anything they dislike becomes "Islamist".

 

[aboveandbeyond]

RSS or Hindus are not conducting terror attacks from Newyork to Europe to Asia to Australia. Guess who is doing it?

Who?

Islam clearly prohibits all form of oppression and killings. So it can't be in the name of islam.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Why will international community care when Saffron goons do not cross their Indian borders?

When was the last time a saffron extremist blew himself up in the west or killed a bunch of people in the name of Ram or Krishna?

Are you people seriously living in real world or some bubble…

 

[Champ_Pal]

Who?

Islam clearly prohibits all form of oppression and killings. So it can't be in the name of islam.

No true Muslim fallacy

 

[Hitman]

Why will international community care when Saffron goons do not cross their Indian borders?

When was the last time a saffron extremist blew himself up in the west or killed a bunch of people in the name of Ram or Krishna?

Are you people seriously living in real world or some bubble…

Or commit an attack akin to 9/11 or London Bombings?

 

[Bhaijaan]

List of hindu terrorist attacks globally :-

9/11 - Lawrence Bishnoi Gang
Israel music festival - Mithun Kumar
Russia gun attack - Brijesh Sharma
Pakistan school attack - Subhash Gupta
London knife attack - Manjunath Reddy
Las Vegas attack - Amitesh Shrivastava
26/11 - Nikhil Arora

Some of the major Hindu terrorist organisations

ISIS - International Sanatani Ishwara Sangathan

HAMAS - Hindus Against Meat Eaters on American Soil

Lashqar e Tulsidas

Kal Kyafayda

Khal-e-paan


Just shameful stuff from our community

 

[FearlessRoar]

List of hindu terrorist attacks globally :-

9/11 - Lawrence Bishnoi Gang
Israel music festival - Mithun Kumar
Russia gun attack - Brijesh Sharma
Pakistan school attack - Subhash Gupta
London knife attack - Manjunath Reddy
Las Vegas attack - Amitesh Shrivastava
26/11 - Nikhil Arora

Some of the major Hindu terrorist organisations

ISIS - International Sanatani Ishwara Sangathan

HAMAS - Hindus Against Meat Eaters on American Soil

Lashqar e Tulsidas

Kal Kyafayda

Khal-e-paan


Just shameful stuff from our community

- Swami Aseemanand: Confessed to masterminding the 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings, which killed 68 people.
- Prasad Shrikant Purohit: Accused of being involved in the 2008 Malegaon blasts, which killed 8 people and injured 80.
- Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur: Accused of being involved in the 2008 Malegaon blasts.
- Devendra Gupta: Convicted of involvement in the 2007 Ajmer Dargah attack, which killed 3 people and injured 17.
- Bhavesh Patel: Convicted of involvement in the 2007 Ajmer Dargah attack.
- Sunil Joshi: Accused of involvement in the 2007 Ajmer Dargah attack, although he was murdered in 2007.

 

[Champ_Pal]

- Swami Aseemanand: Confessed to masterminding the 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings, which killed 68 people.
- Prasad Shrikant Purohit: Accused of being involved in the 2008 Malegaon blasts, which killed 8 people and injured 80.
- Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur: Accused of being involved in the 2008 Malegaon blasts.
- Devendra Gupta: Convicted of involvement in the 2007 Ajmer Dargah attack, which killed 3 people and injured 17.
- Bhavesh Patel: Convicted of involvement in the 2007 Ajmer Dargah attack.
- Sunil Joshi: Accused of involvement in the 2007 Ajmer Dargah attack, although he was murdered in 2007.

All in India.

Why will west care what some extremists do in their own country? Unless these people cross over into West and start killing beef eaters there or call them westerners Malech and blow themselves up?

Every country has extremist elements. But the world doesn’t care unless they spill over into other nations and carry on their dastardly attacks there.

 

[JaDed]

Lol i was like is the op talking about the spice?

 

[Bhaijaan]

To be honest, and this is half funny and half sad, but Bharatiyas don’t have the image of gangsters. The global community looks at us as mostly docile people many of whom are very educated and make good doctors and engineers. Even comedians make jokes on it like the ones below by Fluffy and Trevor Noah

We don’t have the image of a community that’s gonna do a lot of crime and dominate the planet by force.

 

[FearlessRoar]

All in India.

Why will west care what some extremists do in their own country? Unless these people cross over into West and start killing beef eaters there or call them westerners Malech and blow themselves up?

Every country has extremist elements. But the world doesn’t care unless they spill over into other nations and carry on their dastardly attacks there.

Lol How proudly you are saying all in India, but can't they be a threat to the global community?

 

[Champ_Pal]

Lol How proudly you are saying all in India, but can't they be a threat to the global community?

Nothing to feel proud. The premise of this thread is why is West aka International Community not paying attention to Hindutva extremists.
I gave you the reason.

Hindutva extremism is only limited to India. But posters claiming that sanctions should be put on India or Hindutva should be banned in the West and listing all Hindu organizations is ludicrous.

It is clear to see that some posters are trying to make a case for Hindutva extremism being more dangerous than Islamic extremism. Very poor effort.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol How proudly you are saying all in India, but can't they be a threat to the global community?

Can add Canadians, Pakistanis, Bangladesh, Nepalis etc....too to list

 

[gani999]

Before pointing fingers at Hindus, Pakistanis should worry about the muslims being butchered in Jinnah's riyasat-e-madinah. So much for a safe homeland for India's muslims, LOL.

Pakistan violence: Dozens killed in sectarian attacks

More than 80 die in a tribal area of Pakistan riven by tensions between Shia and Sunni communities.

www.bbc.com

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't think Balochistan or Afghanistan is Hindutva either.

We shouldn't make the same mistakes Indians and western countries do where anything they dislike becomes "Islamist".

It is naive to think that India would not take advantage of any chance to sow trouble for Pakistan. This is the same BJP govt which has elevated a relatively minor sport like cricket to nuclear weapon status as a political tool in order to cripple Pakistan.

I acknowledge that there might be genuine grievances in Balochistan or Afghanistan, but a self declared enemy nation would surely look to exploit that for it's own reasons.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

It is naive to think that India would not take advantage of any chance to sow trouble for Pakistan. This is the same BJP govt which has elevated a relatively minor sport like cricket to nuclear weapon status as a political tool in order to cripple Pakistan.

I acknowledge that there might be genuine grievances in Balochistan or Afghanistan, but a self declared enemy nation would surely look to exploit that for it's own reasons.

They would take any chance and they are talking every chance but it doesn't make it saffron or Hindutva.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They would take any chance and they are talking every chance but it doesn't make it saffron or Hindutva.

It's a saffron Hindutva govt in power so unless someone else is pulling the strings in India then that is where I would put responsibility.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Indian nationals attack Pakistani restaurant in UK​

A violent incident occurred in Sheffield, England, where a group of Hindu extremists attacked a well-known Pakistani restaurant.

The attackers, reportedly under the influence of alcohol, physically assaulted the restaurant staff, causing chaos and damage inside the establishment.

According to British media reports, the extremists vandalised the restaurant by smashing windows, overturning chairs and tables, and damaging various items.

They also allegedly accused the restaurant of mixing beef with mutton in their dishes, claiming that beef, which is sacred to Hindus, should not be served.

The attackers made their dissatisfaction known, stating that they had already expressed their objections to the use of beef in the food.

Following the incident, local police intervened and arrested the attackers for their role in the disturbance and property damage.

This incident highlights growing concerns about rising extremism and tensions stemming from the Hindutva ideology, which has reportedly led to similar violent acts in other parts of the world.

Hindu extremists launch attack on Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield, UK | The Express Tribune

Hindu extremists attack a Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield over alleged use of beef, causing damage.

tribune.com.pk

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indian nationals attack Pakistani restaurant in UK​

A violent incident occurred in Sheffield, England, where a group of Hindu extremists attacked a well-known Pakistani restaurant.

The attackers, reportedly under the influence of alcohol, physically assaulted the restaurant staff, causing chaos and damage inside the establishment.

According to British media reports, the extremists vandalised the restaurant by smashing windows, overturning chairs and tables, and damaging various items.

They also allegedly accused the restaurant of mixing beef with mutton in their dishes, claiming that beef, which is sacred to Hindus, should not be served.

The attackers made their dissatisfaction known, stating that they had already expressed their objections to the use of beef in the food.

Following the incident, local police intervened and arrested the attackers for their role in the disturbance and property damage.

This incident highlights growing concerns about rising extremism and tensions stemming from the Hindutva ideology, which has reportedly led to similar violent acts in other parts of the world.

Hindu extremists launch attack on Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield, UK | The Express Tribune

Hindu extremists attack a Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield over alleged use of beef, causing damage.

tribune.com.pk

4 month old news.

The original report by local news doesn't mention anything about Indians or beef.

Pakistanis are desperate after the grooming scandal reports have exploded.

Five men arrested after restaurant’s windows are smashed during brawl in Sheffield

Five men have been arrested following a disturbance outside a restaurant in Sheffield.

www.thestar.co.uk

 

[sweep_shot]

Indian nationals attack Pakistani restaurant in UK​

A violent incident occurred in Sheffield, England, where a group of Hindu extremists attacked a well-known Pakistani restaurant.

The attackers, reportedly under the influence of alcohol, physically assaulted the restaurant staff, causing chaos and damage inside the establishment.

According to British media reports, the extremists vandalised the restaurant by smashing windows, overturning chairs and tables, and damaging various items.

They also allegedly accused the restaurant of mixing beef with mutton in their dishes, claiming that beef, which is sacred to Hindus, should not be served.

The attackers made their dissatisfaction known, stating that they had already expressed their objections to the use of beef in the food.

Following the incident, local police intervened and arrested the attackers for their role in the disturbance and property damage.

This incident highlights growing concerns about rising extremism and tensions stemming from the Hindutva ideology, which has reportedly led to similar violent acts in other parts of the world.

Hindu extremists launch attack on Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield, UK | The Express Tribune

Hindu extremists attack a Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield over alleged use of beef, causing damage.

tribune.com.pk

These folks should be jailed, fined, and deported.

Great to see some arrests were made.

 

[sweep_shot]

Indian nationals attack Pakistani restaurant in UK​

A violent incident occurred in Sheffield, England, where a group of Hindu extremists attacked a well-known Pakistani restaurant.

The attackers, reportedly under the influence of alcohol, physically assaulted the restaurant staff, causing chaos and damage inside the establishment.

According to British media reports, the extremists vandalised the restaurant by smashing windows, overturning chairs and tables, and damaging various items.

They also allegedly accused the restaurant of mixing beef with mutton in their dishes, claiming that beef, which is sacred to Hindus, should not be served.

The attackers made their dissatisfaction known, stating that they had already expressed their objections to the use of beef in the food.

Following the incident, local police intervened and arrested the attackers for their role in the disturbance and property damage.

This incident highlights growing concerns about rising extremism and tensions stemming from the Hindutva ideology, which has reportedly led to similar violent acts in other parts of the world.

Hindu extremists launch attack on Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield, UK | The Express Tribune

Hindu extremists attack a Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield over alleged use of beef, causing damage.

tribune.com.pk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875155196420243894

 

[Bhaijaan]

Hot international topics related to Bharat and Pakistan recently :-

• Bharat origin Techies have disproportional share in high paying jobs in the USA relative to their population and this is alleged to be a threat to local Americans not getting enough high paying jobs
• Govt of Bharat is accused of carrying out targeted operations killing alleged terror linked operatives primarily in Canada, Pakistan and some other countries
• Pakistani immigrants in the Europe, predominantly in the UK are accused of having a disproportionately higher share in Child molestation, Sexual harassment, extortion related crimes relative to their population

The first two points were actually a massive positive PR for Bharat as a country and for its people working globally.

All these posts about Pakistanis leading the charts in grooming gangs in UK, Germany however is a massive massive negative PR campaign against Pakistan community.

This is time for serious introspection for Pakistanis as to what’s gone wrong with their country, their people and if they’re serious about improving things, honesty and acceptance comes first.

However all i see is a shameless display of ignorance and desperate diversion tactics. You guys are stupid honestly if you think these old tactics still work. This is 2024, the world is a more aware place than ever before and any BS gets instantly caught and exposed. I mean just look at the type of people you are being smashed by on X. They’re some of the biggest names in social
Media political commentary. your lame hindutva comments don’t work in international affairs.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Hot international topics related to Bharat and Pakistan recently :-

• Bharat origin Techies have disproportional share in high paying jobs in the USA relative to their population and this is alleged to be a threat to local Americans not getting enough high paying jobs
• Govt of Bharat is accused of carrying out targeted operations killing alleged terror linked operatives primarily in Canada, Pakistan and some other countries
• Pakistani immigrants in the Europe, predominantly in the UK are accused of having a disproportionately higher share in Child molestation, Sexual harassment, extortion related crimes relative to their population

The first two points were actually a massive positive PR for Bharat as a country and for its people working globally.

All these posts about Pakistanis leading the charts in grooming gangs in UK, Germany however is a massive massive negative PR campaign against Pakistan community.

This is time for serious introspection for Pakistanis as to what’s gone wrong with their country, their people and if they’re serious about improving things, honesty and acceptance comes first.

However all i see is a shameless display of ignorance and desperate diversion tactics. You guys are stupid honestly if you think these old tactics still work. This is 2024, the world is a more aware place than ever before and any BS gets instantly caught and exposed. I mean just look at the type of people you are being smashed by on X. They’re some of the biggest names in social
Media political commentary. your lame hindutva comments don’t work in international affairs.

Look let’s break it down honestly. You talk about Indian techies as a success story ok they’ve achieved a lot but there’s also backlash in the US about unfair hiring and visa misuse, especially with H1-B.

And those targeted operations that’s nothing to brag about. Breaking international laws and messing up relations with countries like Canada doesn’t make India look good.

India has its own problems too like caste violence, lynchings, and rising extremism, and all of this is reported worldwide. There are also Indians involved in crimes in Europe, like financial fraud, human trafficking, and other serious issues.

And about deflection calling out “Hindutva” isn’t deflection it’s pointing out a real problem. The world sees what’s happening in India too.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875155196420243894

Hindutwa cowards

 

[Varun]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1875155196420243894

If only they ate the beef they might have had a better chance in the fight.

With that said, this looks like fake news. Could be any dispute with a beef Happy twitter-er making up details.

 

[Hikaru]

Probably because unlike Islamists, Hindus have done very well over the past many decades, proud of my Sanatani brothers and sisters. <3

 

[Itachi]

Indian nationals attack Pakistani restaurant in UK​

A violent incident occurred in Sheffield, England, where a group of Hindu extremists attacked a well-known Pakistani restaurant.

The attackers, reportedly under the influence of alcohol, physically assaulted the restaurant staff, causing chaos and damage inside the establishment.

According to British media reports, the extremists vandalised the restaurant by smashing windows, overturning chairs and tables, and damaging various items.

They also allegedly accused the restaurant of mixing beef with mutton in their dishes, claiming that beef, which is sacred to Hindus, should not be served.

The attackers made their dissatisfaction known, stating that they had already expressed their objections to the use of beef in the food.

Following the incident, local police intervened and arrested the attackers for their role in the disturbance and property damage.

This incident highlights growing concerns about rising extremism and tensions stemming from the Hindutva ideology, which has reportedly led to similar violent acts in other parts of the world.

Hindu extremists launch attack on Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield, UK | The Express Tribune

Hindu extremists attack a Pakistani restaurant in Sheffield over alleged use of beef, causing damage.

tribune.com.pk

There's something wrong with UK. Every other day, such news come in.

Multi culturalosm seemed have failed in UK while in US, it paints a different story. Even in case assimilation, I don't know why, but American Muslims seemed to have integrated to the society in a much blending manner.

But UK has all sorts of issues from different religions.

 

[Hitman]

On another note, has anyone heard non Pakistanis and non Bangladeshis even use the term Hindutva or saffron terrorism? The world isn't foolish.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

They are more concerned about the massive grooming gangs operated by pakistanis in their homelands which targeted little girls on a massive scale.

 

[FearlessRoar]

No plans to expand definition of extremism - minister​

There are no plans to expand the definition of extremism, Home Office minister Dan Jarvis has said, following reports it could be broadened to cover potentially violent environmentalists and misogynists.

He said Islamist extremism followed by far right extremism were the biggest threats but added that the Southport attack did show a need for "action on those drawn towards mixed ideologies and violence-obsessed young people".

It comes after parts of a Home Office-ordered report were leaked to the right-leaning Policy Exchange think tank, which criticised proposals to look at behaviour over ideology.

Jarvis said the report was "not current or new policy".

Asked about the report earlier, Sir Keir Starmer said the government was "looking carefully" at how to approach the issue.

"It's very important that we are focused on the threats so we can deploy our resources properly and therefore we're looking carefully where the key challenges are."

The prime minister said there was the "additional challenge" in the aftermath of the Southport attack of "a cohort of loners who are extreme and they need to be factored in".

Home Secretary Yvette Cooper commissioned Home Office officials to conduct a rapid review of the UK's approach upon entering office and the work was sped up in the wake of the murder of three young girls in Southport and the subsequent riots across the UK.

The review was tasked with shaping a new counter-extremism strategy, addressing online and offline threats from Islamist and the far-right alongside a broader spectrum of extremism.

The government's current definition of extremism is the promotion of an ideology based on violence, hatred or intolerance that aims to destroy the rights and freedoms of others or undermine liberal parliamentary democracy.

Leaked sections of the report, published by Policy Exchange, recommend the government's counter-extremism strategy shift focus to "behaviours of concern" rather than "ideologies".

Behaviours of concern include violence against women, spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories, fascination with gore or involvement in the online subculture called the "manosphere" - which promotes misogyny and opposition to feminism.

The think tank has not made public the leaked version of the Home Office report, but published its own assessment which quoted extensively from the document.

The BBC has not seen a full copy of the report.

Currently counter-extremist officers focus most of their efforts tackling Islamism and right-wing extremism - the two most dominant threats to the UK.

MI5 Director Ken McCallum said in October that UK counter-terror efforts deal 75% with Islamist threats and 25% with far-right extremists.

The report urges expanding extremism's definition to cover, alongside Islamists and extreme right-wing:

extreme misogyny
pro-Khalistan extremism, advocating for an independent Sikh state
Hindu nationalist extremism
environmental extremism
left-wing, anarchist and single-issue extremism (LASI)
violence fascination
conspiracy theories
Speaking in the Commons, Conservative shadow home secretary Chris Philp said counter-terrorism policing should focus on "those with extremist ideologies and not risk diluting attention with these much wider issues".

In response, Jarvis said: "His remarks refer to a leaked report, which, as I could not have been clearer about, does not and will not represent government policy."

Privately, government sources have strongly criticised the report and said certain elements of it were shocking, despite it having been conducted by the Home Office's own officials.

However, the government will need to work out a way to deal with violent individuals and ideologies.

In response to the sentencing of Southport killer Axel Rudakubana last week, the prime minister said terrorism "has changed" in Britain and a review would be carried out into "our entire counter-extremist system".

While in the past he said "the predominant threat was highly organised groups with clear political intent", alongside that there were now also "acts of extreme violence perpetrated by loners, misfits, young men in their bedroom".

Rudakubana was referred to the Prevent anti-terrorism programme three times but the referrals were closed due to his apparent lack of a clear ideology.

Some people responded to the leaked report by arguing that the activity it identified was already covered by the government's definition of extremism.

Lord Walney, the government's independent adviser on political violence, said what the report had in effect proposed was not a call to widen the definition but to "deprioritise" the "vital focus on Islamist and far-right ideological drivers".

Others are questioning the implications of the home secretary publicly disowning the work of her officials.

One senior source said the situation was now "a mess" and criticised Cooper for asking internal officials to conduct the review in the first place, rather than commissioning external experts.

Government sources insisted they still had confidence in the work of their officials on extremism, despite rejecting their report.

It is unclear when precisely ministers decided to reject the report.

Asked by the BBC on Thursday about the status of the "sprint" report, a Home Office spokesperson said that it had "concluded", but the government was "continu[ing] to refine recommendations from our learnings".

Separate from the report, the government has commissioned a public inquiry, not only to look at what went wrong in how public bodies like the police, Prevent and the NHS handled Rudakubana, but also to look at the wider problems of youth violence and extremism.

In the meantime, the Home Office is conducting a review of how Prevent interacts with other agencies like the NHS and the police when somebody is not seen as suitable for Prevent, but clearly has neurodivergence or mental health difficulties and poses a risk of violent behaviour.

On Sunday the Home Secretary Yvette Cooper wrote in The Times that there is "a serious problem when cases don't pass the Prevent threshold but still need urgent action and instead just go into a void".

The government seems to be moving towards a plan that leaves the existing terrorism and extremism structures largely intact, but bolsters how public bodies handle people who have no clear ideology but pose a risk of serious violence due to obsessions with things such as school massacres.

A pilot scheme will launch next month.

Danny Shaw, a former adviser to Cooper, told the BBC's Today programme he had seen a summary of the report and backed one of the recommendations which said "the counter-extremism function should take an approach based on behaviours that cause harm rather than one based on definition".

"That approach was not taken in the case of Axel Rudakubana because he didn't fit a definition that meant he could have intervention by Prevent so he was transferred away and passed from one agency to another," he added.

Appearing on the same programme, Nick Aldworth, a former detective chief superintendent in counter terrorism, expressed concern about police resources, adding: "If you have a definition or legislation that can't easily be policed it is probably not worth doing."

The Policy Exchange authors, who released the Home Office findings, said the review "runs in the wrong direction".

Former journalist and government advisor Andrew Gilligan and Paul Stott, the head of security and extremism at Policy Exchange, said: "The purpose of counter-extremism and counter-terrorism is to defend the security of the country, its democratic values and institutions against those whose beliefs and acts intentionally threaten them.

"Such threats come overwhelmingly from those with an ideological or political motive, principally Islamism but also far-right and other forms of extremism."

The report's recommendations "risk swamping already stretched" security services, while redefining extremism "threatens free speech," the authors said.

No plans to expand definition of extremism, minister says

Dan Jarvis says Islamist extremism, followed by far-right extremism, are the biggest threats the UK faces.

www.bbc.com

 

[uppercut]

So how many buildings were blown up, suicide attacks, ploughing thru a Crowd, beheadings ... etc carried out by these Evil Hindu extremists ?

@FearlessRoar

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The rest of the world doesn't care about hindutvas because India doesn't have any resources other than cheap labour. If they persecute minorities it's not the rest of the world's problem. It's not that difficult to understand.

The Muslim world is sitting on a lot of natural resources which the first world needs. This has led to western invasions, destruction of whole cities and bombing them "back to the stone age" in their own words. This has led to retaliotary strikes from rogue renegades from the Muslim world which is labelled terrorism by western coalitions and their supporters.

 

[Technics 1210]

The UK and Amreeka did pay attention to Hindutva, they banned Modi from entering their soil. The first ever to be banned on religious terrorism charges.

But now the same folk are turning a blind eye for the sake of money.

 

[RexRex]

To answer the OP, hindutvas don't get global attention because they don't go around blowing away people's heads in the West. Their extremism is confined to India. This is not the case for Islamism.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The UK and Amreeka did pay attention to Hindutva, they banned Modi from entering their soil. The first ever to be banned on religious terrorism charges.

But now the same folk are turning a blind eye for the sake of money.

It's understandable though, since money drives capitalism which is the underlying ideology for most western nations.

It's the same underlying principle which might see the west turn their sights back on Indian Hindu nationalism should they ever align with organisations which undermine western hegemony, like BRICS for example.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

To answer the OP, hindutvas don't get global attention because they don't go around blowing away people's heads in the West. Their extremism is confined to India. This is not the case for Islamism.

No point in comparing with Islamic nations because India has not been invaded or bombed in the last century. Why would Indians feel any motivation towards blowing away peoples heads in the west?

This whole thread is built on faulty premise.

 

[FearlessRoar]

So how many buildings were blown up, suicide attacks, ploughing thru a Crowd, beheadings ... etc carried out by these Evil Hindu extremists ?

@FearlessRoar

Here are the details if you are interested to read

Hindu terrorism - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org