[PICTURES] Why modern boxers like Tyson Fury,Andy Ruiz Usyk are too inferior to the heavyweight boxers of 1970s like Muhammad Ali, George Foreman etc?

[shaz619]

Usyks IQ makes up for his lack of weight. He's like a puzzle which bamboozled both fury and Joshua, with his immense footwork and ring craft at the age of 37, after a bruising career both in amateurs and Pro ranks.

For me, he's no doubt the best heavyweight of this generation, and because of his IQ and ring craft hes one of the GOATS.

Both AJ (Bruno 2) and Fury ( Butterbean) can cry all they want. In Four fights, not once have these So called Giants have put USYK on the floor.

If both AJ & Fury are rubbish then you are diminishing Usyk’s so called great legacy, you calling him Butterbean is going full re!ard really. Fighters peak differently, Usyk is fortunate to have fought these guys well past it and he has been given an Xmas gift due to the whole Ukraine war sympathy thing here, some would have you believe that Fury fought better in the 1st. His boxing IQ wouldn’t be enough against the best HW’s in their peak form past or present, he has had life and death against them even now, somebody who arguably lost to Derek Chisora is being advocated as a HW legend has to be some joke. And it is ridiculous to suggest he’d have a chance against the great 90’s gen HW’s, let alone the golden era. This era he can compete, he don’t beat these guys in their prime. A good durable boxer with solid fundamentals who is extremely fortunate with the timing of his move to HW, am sure Turki will sell some Ring Magazine’s now with all three Ukranian dossers pictured on the battlefield.

 

[shaz619]

Agree. Both BBC and Sky Sports Box office Comms were completely biased.

Groves
Hamed
Lewis
Froch
Nelson
Bellew

Had Usyk winning comfortably.

Warren i can understand . He was livid because of the chance of a MAMMOTH pay day a trilogy would bring. If he was that shocked, he would have complained, and appeal for a rematch.

Those names are largely Usyk groupies / have their behind stuck up his head unlike Ben Davison, Oscar De La Hoya, Carl Frampton & Richie Woodhall. Casuals generally would have seen it as ‘comfortably’, people who know the sport never had it that wide and I can somewhat accept that but it’s a disgrace the narrative which has been manufactured regarding Usyk’s performance, his great IQ here simply had to hope for Fury’s gas tank to empty and even then, he didn’t do enough in my opinion to nick it.

 

[shaz619]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870616938566561906

Makes sense

@Technics 1210 Check this Zelensky comedian out

 

[shaz619]

Fury should have retired long ago, nothing to prove and no need to fight on when you’ve regressed. Very few right now will have the dynamic ability to stop Usyk so he got outboxed here instead, and still, the judges saw it differently. Only way to beat this guy is to knock him out given the severe bias, and right now Dubois is the only fighter who is in his prime and carries some pop with some decent boxing ability. Usyk is still in his peak and should fight on, if Dubois comes through the Parker fight then the onus is on Usyk to end the controversy of his last fight with Dubois.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Those names are largely Usyk groupies / have their behind stuck up his head unlike Ben Davison, Oscar De La Hoya, Carl Frampton & Richie Woodhall. Casuals generally would have seen it as ‘comfortably’, people who know the sport never had it that wide and I can somewhat accept that but it’s a disgrace the narrative which has been manufactured regarding Usyk’s performance, his great IQ here simply had to hope for Fury’s gas tank to empty and even then, he didn’t do enough in my opinion to nick it.

Works both ways.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

If both AJ & Fury are rubbish then you are diminishing Usyk’s so called great legacy, you calling him Butterbean is going full re!ard really. Fighters peak differently, Usyk is fortunate to have fought these guys well past it and he has been given an Xmas gift due to the whole Ukraine war sympathy thing here, some would have you believe that Fury fought better in the 1st. His boxing IQ wouldn’t be enough against the best HW’s in their peak form past or present, he has had life and death against them even now, somebody who arguably lost to Derek Chisora is being advocated as a HW legend has to be some joke. And it is ridiculous to suggest he’d have a chance against the great 90’s gen HW’s, let alone the golden era. This era he can compete, he don’t beat these guys in their prime. A good durable boxer with solid fundamentals who is extremely fortunate with the timing of his move to HW, am sure Turki will sell some Ring Magazine’s now with all three Ukranian dossers pictured on the battlefield.

Find this hilarious. Any way. Agree to disagree. But everyone's opinions have to be respected.

 

[shaz619]

Find this hilarious. Any way. Agree to disagree. But everyone's opinions have to be respected.

Butterbean man that’s really hilarious though lmao And I respect Usyk as a fighter but just can’t jump on the bandwagon of his ATG superiority, but yeah agree to disagree.

 

[AAli98]

Any other era fury & co would have been bums

 

[Amjid Javed]

If both AJ & Fury are rubbish then you are diminishing Usyk’s so called great legacy, you calling him Butterbean is going full re!ard really. Fighters peak differently, Usyk is fortunate to have fought these guys well past it and he has been given an Xmas gift due to the whole Ukraine war sympathy thing here, some would have you believe that Fury fought better in the 1st. His boxing IQ wouldn’t be enough against the best HW’s in their peak form past or present, he has had life and death against them even now, somebody who arguably lost to Derek Chisora is being advocated as a HW legend has to be some joke. And it is ridiculous to suggest he’d have a chance against the great 90’s gen HW’s, let alone the golden era. This era he can compete, he don’t beat these guys in their prime. A good durable boxer with solid fundamentals who is extremely fortunate with the timing of his move to HW, am sure Turki will sell some Ring Magazine’s now with all three Ukranian dossers pictured on the battlefield.

Wow

 

[shaz619]

One thing I will say though, casuals are at least starting to appreciate good technical fighters; it obviously started after AJ got spanked and they all jumped on the Usyk train, but that’s at least a positive takeaway that he is appreciated for his skill more than he would have 5-10 years ago. So well done guys.

 

[IMMY69]

@shaz619
I only bought the last 6/7 rounds and no way that was a 112-116 to Usyk...

I actually expected the judges to come back with a draw

 

[shaz619]

@shaz619
I only bought the last 6/7 rounds and no way that was a 112-116 to Usyk...

I actually expected the judges to come back with a draw

Between Rd 6-12, one of the judges gave Fury 1 round & the other two had Usyk winning every single one; make of that what you will. It’s a dirty sport. I wouldn’t argue against a draw, am not the only one here at least who saw it as a dominating UD points win.

 

[IMMY69]

Between Rd 6-12, one of the judges gave Fury 1 round & the other two had Usyk winning every single one; make of that what you will. It’s a dirty sport. I wouldn’t argue against a draw, am not the only one here at least who saw it as a dominating UD points win.

IMHO The judges results were inexplicable.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Between Rd 6-12, one of the judges gave Fury 1 round & the other two had Usyk winning every single one; make of that what you will. It’s a dirty sport. I wouldn’t argue against a draw, am not the only one here at least who saw it as a dominating UD points win.

Fury lost, get over it.

Yeah it wasn't 116-112, but stop acting like it was a Robbery.

All fury did second half of fight was flick his arms out and not actually throw any meaningful shots. Go re-watch the fight with sound off and you will see differently.

All this down playing of usyk achievements is hilarious.

No version of B-tech Frank Bruno (AJ) would have beaten usyk.

Reality for Fury is his best two wins before these fights were klitchko and wilder.

The whole usyk can't handle bigger Size should be done and dusted. Fury gassed out again in this fight and got out punched 11 out of 12 rounds. The fact Fury missed with so many shots as well, shows he didn't deserve to win.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Fury lost, get over it.

Yeah it wasn't 116-112, but stop acting like it was a Robbery.

All fury did second half of fight was flick his arms out and not actually throw any meaningful shots. Go re-watch the fight with sound off and you will see differently.

All this down playing of usyk achievements is hilarious.

No version of B-tech Frank Bruno (AJ) would have beaten usyk.

Reality for Fury is his best two wins before these fights were klitchko and wilder.

The whole usyk can't handle bigger Size should be done and dusted. Fury gassed out again in this fight and got out punched 11 out of 12 rounds. The fact Fury missed with so many shots as well, shows he didn't deserve to win.

Yep. Klitchko was a washed up 38 year old, and Wilder a one trick pony sledgehammer.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Uysk had the more cleaner work , defended far better and landed many more shots. I had Uysk by 3 rounds but even judges scorecards is no issue for me. Fury looked better but did no real damage , while his shots were blocked well.

Its time for both Fury and AJ to retire, both would not be close to champions if around in the 90's imo. The hype of British HW scene is so you pay for PPV. However Dubious could and will hurt Uysk , with a chance of beating him

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Tbh, it was a close match but at best a draw or victory for usyk as since Ali's era judges favoring champions in a close fight

 

[shaz619]

Fury lost, get over it.

Yeah it wasn't 116-112, but stop acting like it was a Robbery.

All fury did second half of fight was flick his arms out and not actually throw any meaningful shots. Go re-watch the fight with sound off and you will see differently.

All this down playing of usyk achievements is hilarious.

No version of B-tech Frank Bruno (AJ) would have beaten usyk.

Reality for Fury is his best two wins before these fights were klitchko and wilder.

The whole usyk can't handle bigger Size should be done and dusted. Fury gassed out again in this fight and got out punched 11 out of 12 rounds. The fact Fury missed with so many shots as well, shows he didn't deserve to win.

Am going say how I saw it, not sure why you’re taking it so personally; Usyk isn’t the special fighter you are making him out to be, as good as you think he is, he had life and death with a past it Tyson Fury, you can get nanga and celebrate that all you like but it doesn’t change the fact how ridiculous the scoring was and I aint the only one who doesn’t want to ride Usyk. I pay no attention to the commies or crowd reaction, Usyk never dominated a single round, he made them appear competitive by working the last 20-30 seconds of each round, he threw hands but a lot of them were blocked and barely made a dent in Fury, he failed to push Fury back mostly in this fight due to his superior jab, stiff body work and right cross & couldn’t counter his southpaw stance until very late; Usyk had good work rate, but the bigger shots came from Fury, you can’t score pro fights like they are amateur bouts.

Usyk’s so called HW greatness has been supported by the timing of these fights. You make it sound like the four fights between Klit & Wilder were nothing. If Dubois stops Usyk are we going to call him the best HW of his era ? my god. As for Anthony Joshua, he did really well in the rematch, you can’t say with full confidence that Usyk would have handled the AJ & Fury who beat Wladmir, and also the Fury who stopped Wilder in the second fight.

For all this 55lb heavier and what not, it doesn’t add to Usyk’s win if you know the sport, his conditioning is going to be vastly inferior, there’s an optimum weight at HW, just ask Lennox Lewis, you don’t really want to be well over 19 stones. Fury never put weight on for this fight, this is the best he could physically achieve after going on a bender for 2 months. You already admit Fury gassed, he certainly felt the pace, but still, Usyk never quiet capitalised on it like he did in the first fight once Steward urged Fury on after the 8th round.

 

[shaz619]

Yep. Klitchko was a washed up 38 year old, and Wilder a one trick pony sledgehammer.

Fury & AJ were past it as well. Fury fights he had life & death, Chisora fight he had life & death, and Dubois put him hard. All hail GOAT Usyk.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Uysk had the more cleaner work , defended far better and landed many more shots. I had Uysk by 3 rounds but even judges scorecards is no issue for me. Fury looked better but did no real damage , while his shots were blocked well.

Its time for both Fury and AJ to retire, both would not be close to champions if around in the 90's imo. The hype of British HW scene is so you pay for PPV. However Dubious could and will hurt Uysk , with a chance of beating him

Dubois quite a cringey dude lol I don't think a fight between him and Usual will be too marketable.

I think now we will get the Fury V AJ. Scaled back and not what it would have been a few years ago but one last pay day for them.

 

[shaz619]

Dubois quite a cringey dude lol I don't think a fight between him and Usual will be too marketable.

I think now we will get the Fury V AJ. Scaled back and not what it would have been a few years ago but one last pay day for them.

His communication skills are not the best lol but he is growing in confidence these days, a lot of people made fun of him for the Usyk interaction but he got people talking and he has a legitimate claim for being robbed, that body shot was legal, Usyk didn’t deserve the full 5 mins to recover. However, Dubois should be focusing on Joseph Parker who’s in terrific form himself and is not an easy fight at all.

 

[shaz619]

Uysk had the more cleaner work , defended far better and landed many more shots. I had Uysk by 3 rounds but even judges scorecards is no issue for me. Fury looked better but did no real damage , while his shots were blocked well.

Its time for both Fury and AJ to retire, both would not be close to champions if around in the 90's imo. The hype of British HW scene is so you pay for PPV. However Dubious could and will hurt Uysk , with a chance of beating him

I’m not sure AJ would have competed with the top 2 or 3 but would have been a good contender, peak Fury would have imo. I agree both Fury & AJ should retire, whoever wins that would be so pointless, I give AJ the edge as he still carries pop and you favour such fighters when they fade but it would just be a big money grab, similar to Khan/Brook. Usyk is a good fighter but a lot of folk are getting way too excited about him being competitive against HW’s a shell off their former self.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Dubois quite a cringey dude lol I don't think a fight between him and Usual will be too marketable.

I think now we will get the Fury V AJ. Scaled back and not what it would have been a few years ago but one last pay day for them.

DDD hasnt the personality of most boxers, who are arrogant. He is a shy lad but is now trying to be more aggressive talking like his boxing is becoming.

Sure, he is not as marketable but for boxing purists, he is the one man right now who can hurt Uysk. He is younger, more hungry and has some serious power. He came closer to beating Uysk than AJ and Fury and may very well the W next time.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I’m not sure AJ would have competed with the top 2 or 3 but would have been a good contender, peak Fury would have imo. I agree both Fury & AJ should retire, whoever wins that would be so pointless, I give AJ the edge as he still carries pop and you favour such fighters when they fade but it would just be a big money grab, similar to Khan/Brook. Usyk is a good fighter but a lot of folk are getting way too excited about him being competitive against HW’s a shell off their former self.

Tactics have gone out of the sport at HW level. Previous HW's such as Lewis, Holyfield were master strategists, they knew how to plan 12 rounds and could adapt to game plans mid fight. The great sportsmen, great sporting teams an adapt, can change and in big moments produce their very best. AJ and Fury looked great against average boxers but in the wrong place when up against a smaller , yet more skillful and intelligent fighter.

Im not sure if the AJ/Fury fight will take place. Fury may just quit, losing to AJ would mean his legacy is only Wilder who cant box at all and an old Vlad. AJ has nothing to lose, a win against Fury and he's back in the title mix, with a possible future bout against Daniel.

What im looking forward to is the Artur v Bivol rematach and the undercard, one of the best in history. I will be in the middle east in Feb so may attend this card.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@shaz619

Bro Dubois shot was a low blow, only shots lower then that are ones your currently throwing.

Firstly, USYK isn't a knockout Artist, but can only beat what is infront of him.

Is he a GOAT HW? No, but he's the best of current ERA. Yes he went life and death with Chisora, the AJ, Fury fights were close but he won all of those, why because hes conditioned to fight 12 rounds and also skilled enough to make adjustments in fights.

It's funny how you call fury past his peak, USYK isn't exactly a spring chicken, yet his dedication to training and clean life style has helped him.

USYK as a CW is elite. Overall as a fighter he's world class. Is he beatable? Yes, because he's lost in Amateurs.

I personally hope he goes down to CW and fights opetaiah, would much rather see that than Usyk beat Dubois again.

Even though Dubois has improved, USYK will just wear him down again and stop him or win comfortable on points.

Fury as he's got older has got progressively worse, yeah he's started knocking people out. But more so it became more WWE hugging, spoiling tactics and wearing fighter's down. That wasn't going to work on usyk.

Remember when klitchko was training for Fury fight, usyk was sparring klitchko and they stopped the sparring because usyk was making klitchko look like a clown. So usyk has always been able to make the giants look ordinary.

 

[shaz619]

Tactics have gone out of the sport at HW level. Previous HW's such as Lewis, Holyfield were master strategists, they knew how to plan 12 rounds and could adapt to game plans mid fight. The great sportsmen, great sporting teams an adapt, can change and in big moments produce their very best. AJ and Fury looked great against average boxers but in the wrong place when up against a smaller , yet more skillful and intelligent fighter.

Im not sure if the AJ/Fury fight will take place. Fury may just quit, losing to AJ would mean his legacy is only Wilder who cant box at all and an old Vlad. AJ has nothing to lose, a win against Fury and he's back in the title mix, with a possible future bout against Daniel.

What im looking forward to is the Artur v Bivol rematach and the undercard, one of the best in history. I will be in the middle east in Feb so may attend this card.

Yes, Lewis as he calls himself was a pugilist specialist and master at preparing as a HW fighter, he knew every trick in the book and Holyfield was tough as old boots, I actually think he was treated harshly in the rematch against Lewis after the unfair scoring in the first fight. But I see what you mean essentially I think you are saying the combination of technical ability and physicality was arguably best displayed in the 90’s, but we’ve still had some great technical fighters throughout the years like Spinks & Holmes who had great success especially the latter, Spinks could have been the Usyk of his time were it not for Mike Tyson. AJ doesn’t have that ability to adapt, if plan A doesn’t work, he will want to slug it out, but we’ve seen Fury make numerous adjustments in his fights against Usyk and I give hime credit for ending Wladmir’s 10+ year unbeaten run because of how he was dominated and he almost stopped AJ in his next fight and Wilder fights are overlooked once he got beat but those are great wins, everyone else avoided one of the biggest punchers in HW history.

Fury isn’t the fighter he use to be and yet Usyk was unable to dominate him & many actually expected him to stop Fury as well, Usyk was asked who he thought was better between Fury & AJ after 24 rounds and he said Fury without blinking, I think Fury has proved his elite pedigree and belongs with the best. Some great fighters have losses on their resume to much lesser men. Yes, AJ has had nothing to lose since being stopped to Ruiz in my view, his biggest flaw has been his mentality and lack of direction, does he want to box, does he want to fight? AJ overthinks a great deal, I don’t think he goes back in with Dubois but they may want to go in with Usyk again.

Yes, that’s the best boxing card I’ve ever seen you should defo attend if you can. I personally will never go to Saudi for an event without doing Umrah or Hajj there first iA. Hamzah Sheeraz is on the card for his first world title shot as well, nearly every match would be a main-event in the UK.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Uysk had the more cleaner work , defended far better and landed many more shots. I had Uysk by 3 rounds but even judges scorecards is no issue for me. Fury looked better but did no real damage , while his shots were blocked well.

Its time for both Fury and AJ to retire, both would not be close to champions if around in the 90's imo. The hype of British HW scene is so you pay for PPV. However Dubious could and will hurt Uysk , with a chance of beating him

Completely agree. They have milked a poor era until they met their daddy

 

[shaz619]

@shaz619

Bro Dubois shot was a low blow, only shots lower then that are ones your currently throwing.

Firstly, USYK isn't a knockout Artist, but can only beat what is infront of him.

Is he a GOAT HW? No, but he's the best of current ERA. Yes he went life and death with Chisora, the AJ, Fury fights were close but he won all of those, why because hes conditioned to fight 12 rounds and also skilled enough to make adjustments in fights.

It's funny how you call fury past his peak, USYK isn't exactly a spring chicken, yet his dedication to training and clean life style has helped him.

USYK as a CW is elite. Overall as a fighter he's world class. Is he beatable? Yes, because he's lost in Amateurs.

I personally hope he goes down to CW and fights opetaiah, would much rather see that than Usyk beat Dubois again.

Even though Dubois has improved, USYK will just wear him down again and stop him or win comfortable on points.

Fury as he's got older has got progressively worse, yeah he's started knocking people out. But more so it became more WWE hugging, spoiling tactics and wearing fighter's down. That wasn't going to work on usyk.

Remember when klitchko was training for Fury fight, usyk was sparring klitchko and they stopped the sparring because usyk was making klitchko look like a clown. So usyk has always been able to make the giants look ordinary.

Usyk had his shorts up and that body shot was borderline, Usyk got the rub of the green there, I completely disagree with you there. Look, would that have taken out Usyk ? am not saying that but he would be in trouble, because if the ref started counting I can guarantee you Usyk wouldn’t have been lying on the floor like that, he would try and get up.

He isn’t a knockout artist but many thought he would stop Fury in this fight and lost a lot of money there, it was a popular bet.

Best HW of this era ? I can’t agree with that, the battle for the best HW of this era was between Fury, Wilder & AJ, it was a three headed monster. Was Fury the best of Wladmir’s era after beating the only fighter with a pulse from that period? Was Spinks the best of Larry Holmes era after winning two controversial decisions against him, interestingly he moved up from LHW? The division is in transition, AJ is past it, Fury is not at his best and Wilder is finished, nobody wanted to face Wilder and we overlook how important that trilogy was for our time, he didn’t just suddenly turn into a sh!t fighter which is what fans tend to say these days as soon as someone loses without any context because their favourite fighter avoided him in his peak.

Usyk is a model professional, I’ve said that before, he lives the life and he has to when he moved up to the pro level a little later. At 37, am not overlooking his supreme conditioning but it also helps he has not had as many fights either, that certainly helps with the wear/tear as well. Am not taking anything away from his dedication to the sport or his toughness, and ultimately he has helped himself keep as fresh as he possibly can to take advantage of HW’s in decline.

Would you confidently pick Usyk over peak Klit with Steward in his corner ? I wouldn’t read too much into sparring, Leonard was dropped like a good few times before he stepped into the ring with Hagler and do you recall how Haye was expected to wipe out big Wlad ? as the smaller, more skilful counter puncher / explosive fighter.

 

[shaz619]

@shaz619

Bro Dubois shot was a low blow, only shots lower then that are ones your currently throwing.

Firstly, USYK isn't a knockout Artist, but can only beat what is infront of him.

Is he a GOAT HW? No, but he's the best of current ERA. Yes he went life and death with Chisora, the AJ, Fury fights were close but he won all of those, why because hes conditioned to fight 12 rounds and also skilled enough to make adjustments in fights.

It's funny how you call fury past his peak, USYK isn't exactly a spring chicken, yet his dedication to training and clean life style has helped him.

USYK as a CW is elite. Overall as a fighter he's world class. Is he beatable? Yes, because he's lost in Amateurs.

I personally hope he goes down to CW and fights opetaiah, would much rather see that than Usyk beat Dubois again.

Even though Dubois has improved, USYK will just wear him down again and stop him or win comfortable on points.

Fury as he's got older has got progressively worse, yeah he's started knocking people out. But more so it became more WWE hugging, spoiling tactics and wearing fighter's down. That wasn't going to work on usyk.

Remember when klitchko was training for Fury fight, usyk was sparring klitchko and they stopped the sparring because usyk was making klitchko look like a clown. So usyk has always been able to make the giants look ordinary.

There’s more competition at CW so it would be interesting for sure, he is certainly an elite CW and the best of his era there although I felt Briedis just nicked it in the tournament, am not sure if you’ve seen that fight? A CW return is the only thing for him to do after a possible Dubois fight because otherwise as much as folk criticise Fury, he’s the only guy who can still box with Usyk. It looks like Usyk will face the winner of Dubois / Parker next, Dubois is limited in comparison to Usyk’s skill but he still carries pop in his peak and therefore has a much better chance of beating him than an Opetaiah who struggled against a past it Briedis recently, no one is getting a judges decision against Usyk when it’s close/competitive.

 

[Amjid Javed]

There’s more competition at CW so it would be interesting for sure, he is certainly an elite CW and the best of his era there although I felt Briedis just nicked it in the tournament, am not sure if you’ve seen that fight? A CW return is the only thing for him to do after a possible Dubois fight because otherwise as much as folk criticise Fury, he’s the only guy who can still box with Usyk. It looks like Usyk will face the winner of Dubois / Parker next, Dubois is limited in comparison to Usyk’s skill but he still carries pop in his peak and therefore has a much better chance of beating him than an Opetaiah who struggled against a past it Briedis recently, no one is getting a judges decision against Usyk when it’s close/competitive.

Yeah I was watched the entire CW super series, its probably still to this date been the best one. Apart from Bellew not entering as was busy with big money fights. All 8 contenders were very good. The 2 semi finals were excellent, yeah you could have given the fight to Bredis at it was very close. The other semi final been between two hard hitters in Gasiev and dorticos. The final was a let down as usyk did expose gassiev boxing ability or lack of it.

Yeah Usyk going down to CW would be best option.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Fury & AJ were past it as well. Fury fights he had life & death, Chisora fight he had life & death, and Dubois put him hard. All hail GOAT Usyk.

All three of em spat their dummy out and embarrassed themselves.

Joshua - hijacked Usyks winning moment to celebrate.

Fury - first defeat, blamed it on judges being sympathetic because of Ukraine war.

DD, he can cry all he wants. He had ample opportunity after the blow to go on beat USYK once the fight resumed. Reality is, he got schooled badly after that .

Whilst Usyk, a humble Champion, praised everyone of his opponents.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Fury 'in gym' and wants to fight Usyk again - Warren

Tyson Fury will not be in the ring this year but he wants to fight Oleksandr Usyk again, the British heavyweight's promoter Frank Warren says.

Fury, 36, announced his retirement from boxing in January after losing twice against the WBA, WBC and WBO champion Usyk - who fights Daniel Dubois in an undisputed heavyweight bout at Wembley on Saturday.

But two-time heavyweight champion Fury - who retired in 2022 before returning six months later - has hinted at a return.

"I spoke to him [Fury] over the weekend about boxing. He won't fight this year," Warren told the 5 Live Boxing podcast.

"He's got this Netflix second series coming but he's in the gym. He's in it for his wellbeing, physically and mentally. It keeps him in a good place."

Earlier this month, Fury took to social media to announce plans for a trilogy bout with Ukranian Usyk at Wembley Stadium in April.

"He's got that mentality that he's in the gym and he needs to do something," Queensberry boss Warren, who also promotes Dubois, added.

"He's made it clear he wants to fight Usyk."

Warren, who has promoted Fury since his comeback to boxing in 2018 after a two-year hiatus from the sport, dismissed suggestions the Morecambe fighter will take a tune-up fight.

If Fury - who has a record of 34-2-1 - does return, the long-mooted fight with Anthony Joshua or a match-up against Dubois could also be possible.

"He had some tough fights against [Deontay] Wilder. A fight I don't think he was right for against [Francis] Ngannou and then the two tough fights against Usyk," Warren said.

"He's controlled most of the fights he's been in but he's not getting any younger. Knowing him, he'll want to go straight in."

BBC

 

[BouncerGuy]

Usyk plays mind games with Dubois at weigh-in

Oleksandr Usyk v Daniel Dubois 2

Venue: Wembley Stadium, London Date: Saturday, 19 July

Oleksandr Usyk attempted to get in Daniel Dubois' head one final time by stepping ahead of the Briton and standing at the front of the stage during the weigh-in at BoxPark Wembley.

Dubois tipped the scales at 17st 6lb with Usyk coming in at a career-heavy 16st 3lb for their undisputed heavyweight contest on Saturday.

After a tense face-off the pair turned to the crowd but Usyk walked forward and flexed his muscles to block his rival from view before Dubois followed him.

"I'm locked in, focused and I can't wait," Dubois said.

"I'm going to win by any means necessary."

But Dubois, 27, was cut short when Usyk moved to the front of the stage again - raising his arms to draw a huge cheer.

Dubois, who has 22 wins in 24 fights as a professional, looked perturbed that his rival had stolen the limelight and walked off shaking his head.

It was the final time WBA (Super), WBO and WBC champion Usyk and IBF title-holder Dubois will come face-to-face before meeting in a rematch at Wembley Stadium on Saturday.

Usyk, 38, is undefeated in 23 professional contests and claimed a ninth-round stoppage when they fought in August 2023.

"It's a great opportunity for my people and my country. See you tomorrow," was all Usyk had to say.

'Rise to the occasion'

Usyk was undisputed at cruiserweight and moved up a division in 2019. He has grown into his heavyweight frame over the past six years and is one pound heavier than when he beat Tyson Fury in December.

He is eight pounds heavier than when he stopped Dubois in Poland 23 months ago.

Londoner Dubois once again had to accept being the B-side on home turf with most of the 400 or so people at BoxPark showing support for Usyk.

Several Ukrainian flags were hanging from the balcony and it was clear who they had come to see, although that support might not cut through as much when around 90,000 pack into Wembley Stadium.

Fellow heavyweights Joseph Parker and Dave Allen were among those watching on, while Britain's last undisputed heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis was also in attendance.

Lewis, who held all three world titles in 1999, has urged Dubois to "rise to the occasion" and offered up advice on how to deal with the undefeated Usyk.

"Dubois needs to get that jab going, push him against the ropes and start combinations - don't waste punches and stay eager," Lewis told BBC Sport.

"Remember he is the true heavyweight and needs to press him."

Dubois trimmed down to 16st 9lb when he lost against Usyk but has since found great success after bulking up to beat Jarrell Miller, Filip Hrgovic and Anthony Joshua.

Dubois is bidding to become the first Briton to reign undisputed in the four-belt era.

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[The Bald Eagle]

Usyk looked too overconfident few days ago...he may not embarrass himself. I am sure if he wins tonight he might retire before facing Tyson for the third time.

 

[AAli98]

Usyk keeps handing these overrated brits there r**r ends, they just keep coming back for more.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

The GOAT of this Generation. Take a bow Alexander Usyk.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Oleksandr Usyk further cemented his place as one of boxing's greats by stopping Daniel Dubois in round five to become a two-time undisputed heavyweight champion.

The Ukrainian put on a masterclass in front of 90,000 fans at Wembley Stadium to dash Dubois' dreams of being the first Briton to unify the division in the four-belt era.

Usyk, 38, put Dubois down twice in the fifth and the Londoner was unable to return to beat the count the second time round.

He also stopped Dubois in 2023 and extends his perfect record as a professional to 24 victories.

Dubois – who beat Anthony Joshua to defend his IBF title in September – tastes defeat for the third time in 25 contests as a professional, with each of those losses coming inside the distance.

Usyk reclaimed the IBF title, which was stripped from him just weeks after unifying the division in 2023, and added it to his WBA (Super), WBO and WBC belts.

Source: BBC

 

[shaz619]

There is nobody out there besides Fury who can compete with Usyk; Usyk’s ascension in the HW ranks was timed perfectly when the division has been in transition, the elite HW’s he beat were past their peak form & the rest are simply not equipped technically to fight him. Casuals calling him the greatest at HW is simply absurd & ignorant. Dubois looked like a headless chicken out there, the fact that he dealt with AJ the way he did, proves what a hype job the latter was, what a shocking performance tonight, absolutely terrible and he’s just perfect stylistically for any decent technical fighter at this level. I think Joseph Parker deserved the title shot here, Dubois team knew the risk had he fought him so they chose to cash out at Wembley.