Pitches in Bangladesh a matter of embarrassment to the game

[Pakhs]

BD shouldn't make flat pitch and cut down boundary length to accommodate NZ. Same NZ team will be hammed by BD in UAE as well is there is some sorts of spin.

BD has won their first ever T20I against NZ. Please make sense before commenting. Plus the pitch conversation is regardless to the opposition even if you were playing China this pitch is not good enough for T20 cricket.

 

[Savak]

NZ should be ashamed, even the WI have beaten Bang in Bang in their own conditions.

 

[mastimasti]

I'm all for home advantage but this is too much. Pitches in Bangladesh and some times India are far too spin friendly.

 

[BDfanforever]

BD has won their first ever T20I against NZ. Please make sense before commenting. Plus the pitch conversation is regardless to the opposition even if you were playing China this pitch is not good enough for T20 cricket.

Bangladesh are an improving side, so there will always be a first ever win or record. In T20, toss, pitch, clouds, none of these should matter much. Most of our wins against top teams comes against NZ actually.

Do you know what was the average score even a top team like India posted last time they toured NZ for Tests? That's right, 188 across 2 tests matches. Do you know what was Axar Patel average in the home series vs England? That's right, a whopping 10 in the entire series!

Nonetheless, I agree the pitch quality can improve, but it's not anything what you are trying say.

 

[Pakhs]

Bangladesh are an improving side, so there will always be a first ever win or record. In T20, toss, pitch, clouds, none of these should matter much. Most of our wins against top teams comes against NZ actually.

Do you know what was the average score even a top team like India posted last time they toured NZ for Tests? That's right, 188 across 2 tests matches. Do you know what was Axar Patel average in the home series vs England? That's right, a whopping 10 in the entire series!

Nonetheless, I agree the pitch quality can improve, but it's not anything what you are trying say.

T20 cricket is not test cricket first thing first you must learn and accept this. Test cricket is test cricket and pitches can vary as batsmen / bowlers are tested on different pitch conditions.

T20 cricket is designed for one thing in mind entertainment with runs easy to come by as there are only 120 balls to play. For Bangladesh to prepare low quality pitch to reduce the score to 120 maximum for T20 games explain that their team is not international quality!

International class players should not be asking nor given these kind of wickets for T20 games where runs should be easier to come by otherwise no point playing T20 cricket format should be changed to what pitch is more suitable for (test cricket) even that wont last 3 days.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

so 120-140 is a good score for T20 cricket? T20 cricket was made to scoring runs otherwise we have test cricket no need fort his format. Disgraceful stuff by Bangladesh.

There were many matches with scores in that range when Pakistan played in the UAE and got to no.1. So those were rubbish pitches too?

 

[GenericBrand]

Not the first time Aman whining during a NZ tour of BD

Send a B string team, expect to be taken out like trash.

 

[silentkiller187]

when BCCI do it its fine but when bangladesh do it then all hell breaks loose,

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Sorry NZ but it serves you right for not taking Bangladesh seriously and keeping your players ready for the pyjama league. You can't expect sporting pitches from Asian countries.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

when BCCI do it its fine but when bangladesh do it then all hell breaks loose,

Exactly this. Funny some of my fellow indians are also criticising Bangladesh here. All asian countries do this.

 

[Walawalkar]

Exactly this. Funny some of my fellow indians are also criticising Bangladesh here. All asian countries do this.

Ironically this happened when last time India served New Zealand rank Turner in T20 Match
India - 79 (18.1)
New Zealand - 126/7 (20)


So well done Bangla Boys..

 

[UzmanBeast]

NZ should be ashamed, even the WI have beaten Bang in Bang in their own conditions.

Whilst the pitch was spin-friendly, I can see at least a 130 total being made if a team bats well.

There was no foot movement to counter the spin, no common sense to play on the front foot on the uneven bounce, just disappointing play against spin.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Home advantage. NZ uses it too the fullest too.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Batting standard against spin is at an all time low, and not just for SENA countries. Better if people focus on that instead of whining about pitch, conditions. Too many bad habits from flat T20 pitches and tree sized bats because of which spinners aren't allowed to flight the ball, too many harmless darters. When conditions are even slightly in favor of spinners and they give some air, all hell breaks loose.

 

[sweep_shot]

Batting standard against spin is at an all time low, and not just for SENA countries. Better if people focus on that instead of whining about pitch, conditions. Too many bad habits from flat T20 pitches and tree sized bats because of which spinners aren't allowed to flight the ball, too many harmless darters. When conditions are even slightly in favor of spinners and they give some air, all hell breaks loose.

I totally agree.

Some people are overlooking how pathetic NZ batting was. This was not a 60-all out pitch. Not at all.

Batting quality has gone down worldwide thanks to T20.

 

[Executioner]

I totally agree.

Some people are overlooking how pathetic NZ batting was. This was not a 60-all out pitch. Not at all.

Batting quality has gone down worldwide thanks to T20.

Also I think NZ are not that good of a team when touring Asia. I dont recall them playing much cricket in the subcontinent. Infact the last time they toured us was way back in 2013. Don't even recall them playing vs Pakistan in the recent past. They had a good WT20 campaign in 2016 though but they were alwats pretty good in the format so it was somewhat expected.

 

[Pakhs]

There were many matches with scores in that range when Pakistan played in the UAE and got to no.1. So those were rubbish pitches too?

UAE pitches when Pakistan play are rubbish and one reason why everyone wanted PSL back home. People stopped watching the matches. Even if you are Pakistan supported you can only disgust those matches for so long.

However these pitches in Bangladesh are extreme even compare to UAE pitches.

 

[Pakhs]

Home advantage. NZ uses it too the fullest too.

Home advantage like this in T20s? Test match extreme advantage is now trending thanks to India but T20 too?

 

[Pakhs]

Also I think NZ are not that good of a team when touring Asia. I dont recall them playing much cricket in the subcontinent. Infact the last time they toured us was way back in 2013. Don't even recall them playing vs Pakistan in the recent past. They had a good WT20 campaign in 2016 though but they were alwats pretty good in the format so it was somewhat expected.

Its not the opposition its Bangla playing 5 spinners in a T20 match? Even mahmuduallah who will be smashed to all corners on batting pitches look like murali? Common its T20s not tests? Even in test Mahmudullah shouldnot look like Murali.

 

[Saurav]

NZ v BD, Wellington 2019.They probably remembered it

 

[IMMY69]

NZ v BD, Wellington 2019.They probably remembered it

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Is that a T20 game?
Do they wear whites for T20 games in NZ?

Pitches should be decent for T20's.
ideally you want ones where you can score runs but bowlers also have a chance.

I don't remember NZ producing green tracks for T20 games.

 

[Aman]

Not the first time Aman whining during a NZ tour of BD

Send a B string team, expect to be taken out like trash.

1) We're world champions, I repeat, we're world champions

Like I really care about the result of some meaningless T20 series against Bangladesh lol.

What is some meaningless T20 series in Bangladesh to the context of things?

All I want is some good cricket, that's the thing I'm disappointed about. I wanted to see the likes of Ravindra and Finn Allen bat and score runs, not watch some shameless team under preparing pitches to reduce the gap in quality and increase their chances of victory for some pointless T20 series which we've sent a weakened squad for.

2) On a decent T20 track, this same squad would more than likely beat Bangladesh. It's still a decent team with prospects and fringe players.

3) If Bangladesh keep preparing tracks like this, the opposition teams are only going to continue to send depleted teams for LOIs.

 

[Aman]

Its not the opposition its Bangla playing 5 spinners in a T20 match? Even mahmuduallah who will be smashed to all corners on batting pitches look like murali? Common its T20s not tests? Even in test Mahmudullah shouldnot look like Murali.

Some people here have deluded themselves into thinking this is about the result. It's all about the cricket and the shameless Bangladeshi's underpreparing pitches to get wins in a format which is meant for entertainment. Who actually complains about the rank turners India prepares in India? It makes it an even bigger accomplishment, the only problems with those pitches is that it inflates the ability of their spinners.

 

[Aman]

NZ v BD, Wellington 2019.They probably remembered it

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When have India prepared rank turners for T20s or ODIs?

 

[Aman]

I totally agree.

Some people are overlooking how pathetic NZ batting was. This was not a 60-all out pitch. Not at all.

Batting quality has gone down worldwide thanks to T20.

We were bad, but most of our players haven't played on pitches like this before and were trying to force the pace. It's a T20 and a lot of them are T20 players who have been brought up on playing their shots. We may as well have sent the fringe ODI and Test players over as absurd as it sounds, those players would have applied themselves better and gotten 110.

I still expect this team to bounce back and win a couple of games. The problem is the games are going to be bad and we're not going to get a good look at our prospects.

 

[shehwar]

1) We're world champions, I repeat, we're world champions

Like I really care about the result of some meaningless T20 series against Bangladesh lol.

What is some meaningless T20 series in Bangladesh to the context of things?

All I want is some good cricket, that's the thing I'm disappointed about. I wanted to see the likes of Ravindra and Finn Allen bat and score runs, not watch some shameless team under preparing pitches to reduce the gap in quality and increase their chances of victory for some pointless T20 series which we've sent a weakened squad for.

2) On a decent T20 track, this same squad would more than likely beat Bangladesh. It's still a decent team with prospects and fringe players.

3) If Bangladesh keep preparing tracks like this, the opposition teams are only going to continue to send depleted teams for LOIs.

LOL sour grapes much? Your world-beating full strength side did not manage to beat Bangladesh in Bangladesh in a SINGLE ODI match in the last 12 years ( getting white washed everytime they toured )

Any side New Zealand send to Bangladesh is always likely to get hammered in LOIs regardless of the pitch. Once you accept that reality, you’ll have an easier time digesting this upcoming whitewash. Peace.

 

[Bahnz]

Yeah, I don’t think people worry too much about pitches in tests. Admittedly there still needs to be an appropriate balance between bat and ball, you don’t want part timers like Joe Root running through batting sides, but test cricket is about the application of techniques in difficult conditions. T20’s are a different beast. They’re made for entertainment. No one wants to watch a T20 were both teams struggle to score above 3rpo in the power play. All this talk about NZ doing the same thing is rather odd. NZ produces uniformally flat tracks for t20’s at home. They turn less than Indian pitches and bounce less than Australian pitches, but they still reward the same basic T20 strategies you see employed in most leagues around the world (3 seamers, 2 spinners and aggressive top order hitters - which is why NZ’s home w:l ratio in t20’s is only about 50%).

As noted, if all Bangladesh want to do is maximise their chances of winning at home than it’s fine (and evidently working given their 80% at home w:l ratio). But if they want to develop players who’ll help them to be in the mix at the business end of ICC tournaments (which are the only T20 internationals that really matter imo) then this is doing more harm than good.

 

[Aman]

LOL sour grapes much? Your world-beating full strength side did not manage to beat Bangladesh in Bangladesh in a SINGLE ODI match in the last 12 years ( getting white washed everytime they toured )

Any side New Zealand send to Bangladesh is always likely to get hammered in LOIs regardless of the pitch. Once you accept that reality, you’ll have an easier time digesting this upcoming whitewash. Peace.

Tell me, what is a T20 series in the context of things?

T20s are about entertainment, watch some big hits, good shots and you forget most of the game the next day.

 

[Aman]

Yeah, I don’t think people worry too much about pitches in tests. Admittedly there still needs to be an appropriate balance between bat and ball, you don’t want part timers like Joe Root running through batting sides, but test cricket is about the application of techniques in difficult conditions. T20’s are a different beast. They’re made for entertainment. No one wants to watch a T20 were both teams struggle to score above 3rpo in the power play. All this talk about NZ doing the same thing is rather odd. NZ produces uniformally flat tracks for t20’s at home. They turn less than Indian pitches and bounce less than Australian pitches, but they still reward the same basic T20 strategies you see employed in most leagues around the world (3 seamers, 2 spinners and aggressive top order hitters - which is why NZ’s home w:l ratio in t20’s is only about 50%).

As noted, if all Bangladesh want to do is maximise their chances of winning at home than it’s fine (and evidently working given their 80% at home w:l ratio). But if they want to develop players who’ll help them to be in the mix at the business end of ICC tournaments (which are the only T20 internationals that really matter imo) then this is doing more harm than good.

People really think we care about the result of this series )

1) It's a T20 series 2) It's against Bangladesh, I doubt most fans even know we're playing Bangladesh right now.

The only T20 series which hold any real value are against Eng, Aus, India, Pakistan, SA and WI. There's a drop off between SL and Bangladesh. They lack star power and presence on the world stage.

I'm gutted I wont get to see much of Finn Allen or Ravindra here.

 

[Mamoon]

Is that a T20 game?
Do they wear whites for T20 games in NZ?

Pitches should be decent for T20's.
ideally you want ones where you can score runs but bowlers also have a chance.

I don't remember NZ producing green tracks for T20 games.

Who makes these rules? Can you direct us to a constitution that states that you cannot prepare favorable pitches for T20Is?

 

[Mamoon]

The bottom-line is that you when are dismissed for 60 in a T20, you cannot blame the pitch.

No pitch can be unplayable enough for a team to be dismissed for such an embarrassing total in a T20.

This was a 120-130 pitch, and Bangladesh would have scored that much had they batted first.

 

[Space Cat]

NZ v BD, Wellington 2019.They probably remembered it

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That pitch was quite a road that year. Bangladesh got bounced out by Wagner with the old ball.

 

[Pakhs]

The bottom-line is that you when are dismissed for 60 in a T20, you cannot blame the pitch.

No pitch can be unplayable enough for a team to be dismissed for such an embarrassing total in a T20.

This was a 120-130 pitch, and Bangladesh would have scored that much had they batted first.

Its obvious you dont know anything about cricket and never played at any decent level. Under preparing a pitch like Bangladesh has done can result in extreme results specially if you play the bowlers to suit that type of bowling.

The thing with under preparing the pitch in Asia is that there is no limit you can under prepare it in a way that even score 100 runs might be difficult.

 

[Mainul]

I see nothing wrong in preparing these pitches. It is 130-140 scoring picth. Subcontinent team like India, Pakistan , Srilankan will score like these. Problem lies within NZ, Australia. Their batsmen are like school going boys. Shame. So incompetent. But I m a bit worried about Bangladeshi batsmen too Apart from the experienced Shakib, Mahmudullah, Mushfiq and sometimes Afif nobody knows the technique of playing spin on this spin friendly pitch.

 

[Mainul]

Its obvious you dont know anything about cricket and never played at any decent level. Under preparing a pitch like Bangladesh has done can result in extreme results specially if you play the bowlers to suit that type of bowling.

The thing with under preparing the pitch in Asia is that there is no limit you can under prepare it in a way that even score 100 runs might be difficult.

In no way you can't say it under prepared . It wasn't a mine field for batters so that anyone can give excuse of getting all out for 60!! Kiwis just mocked at us by sending these players who trembles in fear when a spinner runs in to bowl. These present Aussie and NZ batters are one dimensional player. They will be embarrassed again and again in future

 

[topspin]

#sanctionBangladeshcricket

 

[globalcitizen]

People really think we care about the result of this series )

1) It's a T20 series 2) It's against Bangladesh, I doubt most fans even know we're playing Bangladesh right now.

The only T20 series which hold any real value are against Eng, Aus, India, Pakistan, SA and WI. There's a drop off between SL and Bangladesh. They lack star power and presence on the world stage.

I'm gutted I wont get to see much of Finn Allen or Ravindra here.

Sour grapes. Learn to appreciate opposition. Bangladesh manhandled nz team. Anyway good luck to both team next game, oh ya u don't care

 

[Mainul]

People really think we care about the result of this series )

1) It's a T20 series 2) It's against Bangladesh, I doubt most fans even know we're playing Bangladesh right now.

The only T20 series which hold any real value are against Eng, Aus, India, Pakistan, SA and WI. There's a drop off between SL and Bangladesh. They lack star power and presence on the world stage.

I'm gutted I wont get to see much of Finn Allen or Ravindra here.

Very much sorry to say that your comment sounds like comment of Schizophrenic patients.These school boys are the future of NZ cricket. I really understand what kind of embarrassment lies ahead of them every time they will tour subcontinent including the countries you care about- India, Pakistan. In your delusional world i just want to highlight the previous two tour results in Bangladesh of NZ when they really cared us by sending main team. 8-0 in ODIs in favour of BD! They realized the same results are waiting ahead also this time

 

[Mamoon]

Its obvious you dont know anything about cricket and never played at any decent level. Under preparing a pitch like Bangladesh has done can result in extreme results specially if you play the bowlers to suit that type of bowling.

The thing with under preparing the pitch in Asia is that there is no limit you can under prepare it in a way that even score 100 runs might be difficult.

I know everything about cricket, more than anyone here, and I don’t need lectures from Pakistani fans whose views I do not value in the slightest.

I repeat - when you get out for 60 in a T20, you cannot blame the pitch. No pitch is unplayable to that extreme.

The fact that Bangladesh scored 60/3 in 15 overs shows that it was a playable pitch, and had they batted first, they would have scored 130 odd which would have been a decent total on this wicket.

New Zealand, like Australia before them, were undone by their own incompetence against spin and there is no point in complaining about the pitch.

If Bangladeshi batsmen are outscoring them on the same pitch, they need to look at their own batsmen and not the pitch.

I hope Bangladesh continues to produce such pitches and win more home series. At the end of the day, it is all about winning games and there is absolutely nothing with exploiting home advantage.

 

[IMMY69]

I know everything about cricket, more than anyone here, and I don’t need lectures from Pakistani fans whose views I do not value in the slightest.

I repeat - when you get out for 60 in a T20, you cannot blame the pitch. No pitch is unplayable to that extreme.

The fact that Bangladesh scored 60/3 in 15 overs shows that it was a playable pitch, and had they batted first, they would have scored 130 odd which would have been a decent total on this wicket.

New Zealand, like Australia before them, were undone by their own incompetence against spin and there is no point in complaining about the pitch.

If Bangladeshi batsmen are outscoring them on the same pitch, they need to look at their own batsmen and not the pitch.

I hope Bangladesh continues to produce such pitches and win more home series. At the end of the day, it is all about winning games and there is absolutely nothing with exploiting home advantage.

Basic Cricketing Knowledge:-
A team batting first on a poor wicket is likely to be bowled out cheaply especially if it's their first game on such a wicket and they're unsure what a good total is.
A team chasing a low total on a poor wicket is more likely to get to that total.

Forget how many suitable bowlers a side picks, the above applies almost 100pct of the time.

 

[Saurav]

Is that a T20 game?
Do they wear whites for T20 games in NZ?

Pitches should be decent for T20's.
ideally you want ones where you can score runs but bowlers also have a chance.

I don't remember NZ producing green tracks for T20 games.

Just because its T20,doesnt mean it should be patta

Yesterday's pitch was 130-140 pitch. NZ had some newbies and batted horribly

 

[IMMY69]

Just because its T20,doesnt mean it should be patta

Yesterday's pitch was 130-140 pitch. NZ had some newbies and batted horribly

That wasn't my point.
That picture was for a test match and you intimated that it could be revenge for preparing a green wicket.
However, I asked whether th Kiwis produce those sorts of wickets for T20's?

 

[Pakhs]

In no way you can't say it under prepared . It wasn't a mine field for batters so that anyone can give excuse of getting all out for 60!! Kiwis just mocked at us by sending these players who trembles in fear when a spinner runs in to bowl. These present Aussie and NZ batters are one dimensional player. They will be embarrassed again and again in future

This was not a T20 wicket. Maybe you can play tests on it and at a push 50 over cricket. Even shakib has admitted this wicket was even more difficult then Australia series.

 

[Pakhs]

I know everything about cricket, more than anyone here, and I don’t need lectures from Pakistani fans whose views I do not value in the slightest.

I repeat - when you get out for 60 in a T20, you cannot blame the pitch. No pitch is unplayable to that extreme.

The fact that Bangladesh scored 60/3 in 15 overs shows that it was a playable pitch, and had they batted first, they would have scored 130 odd which would have been a decent total on this wicket.

New Zealand, like Australia before them, were undone by their own incompetence against spin and there is no point in complaining about the pitch.

If Bangladeshi batsmen are outscoring them on the same pitch, they need to look at their own batsmen and not the pitch.

I hope Bangladesh continues to produce such pitches and win more home series. At the end of the day, it is all about winning games and there is absolutely nothing with exploiting home advantage.

60 tuns in 15 overs and you call that a good pitch for T20 cricket and praise the batsmen? That gives away your knowledge of cricket.

 

[Mamoon]

60 tuns in 15 overs and you call that a good pitch for T20 cricket and praise the batsmen? That gives away your knowledge of cricket.

I never said it was a “good” pitch. I said that no pitch is “bad” enough for a team to be bundled out for 60 in a T20I game.

The “goodness” of a pitch is subjective not objective.

New Zealand should blame their batting for their rubbish technique against spin, not the pitch.

 

[Pakhs]

I never said it was a “good” pitch. I said that no pitch is “bad” enough for a team to be bundled out for 60 in a T20I game.

The “goodness” of a pitch is subjective not objective.

New Zealand should blame their batting for their rubbish technique against spin, not the pitch.

And I am not talking about the opposition the pitch should not be judged based on how one plays on it but how it behaves. No way anyone can say this is the sort pitch that should be made for T20 game.

Bangladesh have taken the home advantage to extreme most teams are doing it in test match cricket but Bangladesh have started doing it in T20s now.

 

[Mamoon]

Basic Cricketing Knowledge:-
A team batting first on a poor wicket is likely to be bowled out cheaply especially if it's their first game on such a wicket and they're unsure what a good total is.
A team chasing a low total on a poor wicket is more likely to get to that total.

Forget how many suitable bowlers a side picks, the above applies almost 100pct of the time.

1. Bangladesh would have scored 120-130 batting first, which was the par total on this pitch.

2. It is not Bangladesh’s fault that New Zealand batsmen weren’t prepared. They should have read the pitch and the conditions; they are professionals selected to play for their country. They are not club cricketers.

3. Bangladesh wouldn’t have been bundled for 60 had they batted first. New Zealand though would probably have been bundled for the same total batting second, just Australia was few weeks back, when they were dismissed for 62 while chasing 122.

 

[Mamoon]

And I am not talking about the opposition the pitch should not be judged based on how one plays on it but how it behaves. No way anyone can say this is the sort pitch that should be made for T20 game.

Bangladesh have taken the home advantage to extreme most teams are doing it in test match cricket but Bangladesh have started doing it in T20s now.

And there is nothing wrong with it. Why is right to use home advantage in Tests but wrong in white ball cricket?

 

[Pakhs]

Just because its T20,doesnt mean it should be patta

Yesterday's pitch was 130-140 pitch. NZ had some newbies and batted horribly

For a T20 game you have to give batsmen a chance to get the score above 150/160 otherwise what is the point of T20 game? Its only charm is quick fire runs.

 

[Pakhs]

And there is nothing wrong with it. Why is right to use home advantage in Tests but wrong in white ball cricket?

White ball cricket is designed for a purpose and T20 cricket very clearly designed for quick scoring games. Its up to the pitch curator to make sure the pitch is suitable for the format.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Tell me, what is a T20 series in the context of things?

T20s are about entertainment, watch some big hits, good shots and you forget most of the game the next day.

A team is perfectly within their rights to produce pitches that are favorable to them.

For a New Zealander, green pitches in test cricket aren't a problem because you have grown up watching batsmen get runs on those wickets.

Similarly, a Bangladeshi would say that these spinning tracks aren't that bad where a team should get all-out for 60.

Your opinion is that T20s are about high-scoring entertaining games. Whilst I respect that, perhaps Bangladeshi supporters enjoy low-scoring thrillers.

This debate will never end unless the ICC makes the pitches themselves, but I don't expect that from a spineless, shallow-minded organization.

 

[BD-fan]

(Not to the thread starter particularly) Why the double standard? You can have home field advantage in tests and ODIs but not in T20s? Because you agree with me that T20 is not cricket? It is just entertainment. Good. I thought so.

 

[Executioner]

A lot of thing people are missing is that the teams themselves aren't good enough.

NZ Have historically struggled in BD last decade. And this is their B team. To make matters worse, some of them got out to harmless deliveries.

At the same time, not like Bangladesh batsmen were great either. In fact, we are duds against quality spin. Overall, asian teams these days are not great players of quality spin.

 

[Mamoon]

White ball cricket is designed for a purpose and T20 cricket very clearly designed for quick scoring games. Its up to the pitch curator to make sure the pitch is suitable for the format.

Again, says who?

The home team is well within its right to dictate pitches. This is not a neutral venue; it is a home series for Bangladesh, and they have every right to produce pitches that suit their team.

It was a perfectly fine pitch for Bangladesh. They won the game with ease, and New Zealand need to up their game.

 

[MenInG]

Is the pitch any better today?

 

[Space Cat]

Is the pitch any better today?

Challenging and turning still but much better bounce.

 

[Rajdeep]

I just tuned in to see the fuss about the wicket. Heard Bangladeshi wicket keeper screaming - "C'mmon boys, not easy to bat here. Its a crazy wicket...crazy wicket here...c'mmon"

If BD players themselves saying the pitch is crazy...not sure why folks here targeting OP.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

What excuse now for this loss?

 

[sweep_shot]

I just tuned in to see the fuss about the wicket. Heard Bangladeshi wicket keeper screaming - "C'mmon boys, not easy to bat here. Its a crazy wicket...crazy wicket here...c'mmon"

If BD players themselves saying the pitch is crazy...not sure why folks here targeting OP.

It was probably sledging. He didn't mean it literally.

Pitch was different today. Better pitch. Both sides crossed 135.

 

[sweep_shot]

Is the pitch any better today?

Different pitch today. Both sides crossed 135. I think it was a much better pitch.

 

[Saj]

Decent pitch and NZ still lost.

Home conditions - prepare the pitches however you want.

I've seen NZ prepare green tops for Asian teams, so have a taste of their own medicine.

 

[Mainul]

Decent pitch and NZ still lost.

Home conditions - prepare the pitches however you want.

I've seen NZ prepare green tops for Asian teams, so have a taste of their own medicine.

That is fact and everyone should think like this- fare enough.

 

[Walawalkar]

When Any Asian team goes to SENA and perform badly on green tracks every one questions their technique and commitment
When Sena team dances on the Asian pitches everyone criticize Asian pitches..Why so much hypocrisy and double standard

And the funny part is greater criticism comes from other Asian countries only...

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

When Any Asian team goes to SENA and perform badly on green tracks every one questions their technique and commitment
When Sena team dances on the Asian pitches everyone criticize Asian pitches..Why so much hypocrisy and double standard

And the funny part is greater criticism comes from other Asian countries only...

I think the main reservation about any slow pitch is the uneven bounce that produces bad cricket. A rank turner is great if it has predictable lower bouch. Ball bouncing differently from a same length just dosent produce very good cricket.

BD-NZ pitches aren't bad cricket pitches. Just that these pitches aren't suitable for 150+ scores, which people are accustomed to watching in T20s.

 

[Shafi]

Whether people believe it or not Bangladesh can beat this NZ even in NZ. There is no proper spinner, batsman apart from Latham or even fast bowler in this team. Reminds me Azhar Ali’s team who lost 3-0 to Bangladesh.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

There is no such rule as t20is need 160+ runs to be entertaining. Home advantage is being utilized here and nothing wrong with it. Even though the yesterday's pitch was much better.

Anyone who says sixes and fours are the only thing entertaining is a naive pseudo fan and clearly hasn't ever been entertained by the clattering stumps.

A full strength NZ got out to SL for 60 odd chasing 120 something as well in wt20 2014 where ICC directs the pitches. In the same tournament England failed to chase 130 odd against Netherlands.

Every team needs to be prepared for every kind of track away.

 

[Aman]

Whether people believe it or not Bangladesh can beat this NZ even in NZ. There is no proper spinner, batsman apart from Latham or even fast bowler in this team. Reminds me Azhar Ali’s team who lost 3-0 to Bangladesh.

In NZ this team would score 170+ more often than not. Ravindra, Allen, Nicolls, Blundell and CdG are all good for it against Bangladesh on decent/flat tracks in NZ.

 

[Aman]

There is no such rule as t20is need 160+ runs to be entertaining. Home advantage is being utilized here and nothing wrong with it. Even though the yesterday's pitch was much better.

Anyone who says sixes and fours are the only thing entertaining is a naive pseudo fan and clearly hasn't ever been entertained by the clattering stumps.

A full strength NZ got out to SL for 60 odd chasing 120 something as well in wt20 2014 where ICC directs the pitches. In the same tournament England failed to chase 130 odd against Netherlands.

Every team needs to be prepared for every kind of track away.

Format literally exists to attract a younger audience and casuals.

Do you think IPL and BBL would still going today if they played cricket on these pitches.

 

[Aman]

Different pitch today. Both sides crossed 135. I think it was a much better pitch.

Definitely.

No problem with this pitch.

 

[Bahnz]

Whether people believe it or not Bangladesh can beat this NZ even in NZ. There is no proper spinner, batsman apart from Latham or even fast bowler in this team. Reminds me Azhar Ali’s team who lost 3-0 to Bangladesh.

Bangladesh have lost every game they’ve ever played in NZ.

Anyway, much better game last night and no complaints about the pitch. A slow spongey turner that results in a 140 v 135 game is fine. A minefield with the ball rolling through at ankle height in the 2nd over (as in the first game) however is not the kind of t20 cricket that I want to watch.

Was encouraging to see Rachin bowl so well. He’s more hyped for his batting but on these kinds of surfaces I don’t think he has the experience needed to adapt so I’d shift him down the order for the next game

 

[MenInG]

So the pitches magically ok now for New Zealand?

 

[Aman]

So the pitches magically ok now for New Zealand?

Definitely aren't.

They make for bad cricket. Nobody wants to watch T20s like this.

 

[BDfanforever]

Definitely aren't.

They make for bad cricket. Nobody wants to watch T20s like this.

I agree, T20 wickets should not be like this from little of what I saw. Batsman cannot hit boundary or sixes with ease. It would be more suited for ODI where ones and twos are important.

With that being said, I am not sure of what the end game is for BCB here? I know UAE pitches will be somewhat slow after the abuse it takes from IPL, but doubt it will be this slow.

 

[BaankeJi]

Pitches are alright. Cricket belongs as much to bowlers as it does to batsmen.

 

[Bahnz]

Not quite as bad a pitch as the first game, but something still isn't right when NZ's T20 back-up spinners take 8/44 in 12 overs. As noted, this isn't great prep for either side for the World T20. It's not bad practice for Ajaz for the day 3/4 turners he'll be bowling on in the India tests though.

 

[Space Cat]

Not quite as bad a pitch as the first game, but something still isn't right when NZ's T20 back-up spinners take 8/44 in 12 overs. As noted, this isn't great prep for either side for the World T20. It's not bad practice for Ajaz for the day 3/4 turners he'll be bowling on in the India tests though.

Cole McConchie couldnt even get me out with his pies here in CHCH and hes the 2nd coming of Ashwin on this tour.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It was only a matter of time before this strategy was going to back-fire and blow up in Bangladesh's face.

 

[Pakhs]

Again, says who?

The home team is well within its right to dictate pitches. This is not a neutral venue; it is a home series for Bangladesh, and they have every right to produce pitches that suit their team.

It was a perfectly fine pitch for Bangladesh. They won the game with ease, and New Zealand need to up their game.

Says who? Says the nature of the game 20 overs a side short games designed for entertainment. If you want to make wickets which are slow then this version of game dos not need to be played.

 

[Executioner]

It was only a matter of time before this strategy was going to back-fire and blow up in Bangladesh's face.

Nothing wrong with the strategy in the last 2 games. Pitches were reasonable.

Issue is that BD batting is often miss in this format. Not like a flat wicket would mean our batsmen will magically become beasts

 

[topspin]

Nothing wrong with the strategy in the last 2 games. Pitches were reasonable.

Issue is that BD batting is often miss in this format. Not like a flat wicket would mean our batsmen will magically become beasts

I really enjoy watching Bangladesh's batting and medium paced bowling, so much so I watch it live even when I'm driving!