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Piyush Goyal Gives A “Reality Check” To Indian Startup Ecosystem

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At the Startup Mahakumbh, Piyush Goyal presented a slide comparing the tech innovations in India with those in China

The minister pointed out that while China is doing big innovations in deeptech sectors, Indian startups seemed to be stuck on convenience-focussed businesses

Goyal highlighted the need for more deeptech startups, saying it is imperative to establish India as a global innovation hub

“I have a lot of nice things that I could talk to you about, but I have a slide that I want to show you that disturbed me a lot,” commerce and industry minister Piyush Goyal said during his address at the Startup Mahakumbh today. This came after the minister heaped praises on the country’s burgeoning startup ecosystem, and was his attempt to nudge investors and entrepreneurs to change their priorities and think about big innovations.


During his speech on the inaugural day of the three-day event, Goyal presented a slide, titled “India Vs China: The Startup Reality Check”, which he said someone shared with him a few days ago. It compared the tech innovations in the two countries.


The slide compared blooming Indian startup sectors like foodtech, D2C and quick commerce with China’s dominance in deeptech sectors like EVs, semiconductors, AI and robotics.

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Goyal addressed almost each of these comparisons and expressed concerns over how Indian innovations are tilted towards convenience-oriented businesses.


“My reply to this was “very inspiring” and I want each one of you to take some inspiration from this. Some might call me out for comparing with other nations, but I don’t have qualms about that. We are the world’s third-largest startup ecosystem and we should aspire to be the largest in the near future,” Goyal added.


Indian Startup Ecosystem’s Convenience Problem


Starting off with the comparison of food delivery with EV and battery tech, he said India as a nation has been obsessing over food deliveries while our neighbouring country has fortified its tech solutions in the aforementioned deeptech sectors.


While China has been advancing its tech play, the Indian startup ecosystem is focussed on food delivery apps, which utilise the cheap labour of unemployed youth, he said.


Goyal also said that many startups in India are selling ice creams by packaging them in an appealing way and labelling them as healthy, which is seldom the case.

Gupta, the cofounder of boAt and a judge on TV show Shark Tank India, was among the audience during the address.


The minister also raised the issue of dearth of domestic capital, which he said has led to foreign investors acquiring Indian startups.


“When it comes to instant grocery delivery, I don’t have problems, they can list at a few billion dollars, I will be really happy. I only wish that they had more Indian investors rather than foreigners buying all of our startups,” the minister said.


His comments come on the heels of quick commerce major Zepto and ecommerce giant Flipkart firming up their plans to list on the bourses. While Zepto is backed by foreign investors like General Catalyst, Y-Combinator and Lightspeed, Flipkart is owned by US-based retail giant Walmart.


Earlier in the day, Indian Angel Network cofounder Padmaja Ruparel also highlighted how India is losing out on its early stage healthtech startups to overseas players due to a lack of domestic capital.

While China is also home to a number of foodtech and quick commerce players, Goyal’s comments were aimed at encouraging Indian entrepreneurs and investors to take more risks and come out with innovations in the deeptech sector.


The Need For Deeptech Startups


During a session at the Startup Mahakumbh earlier in the day, Peak XV Partners’ Rajan Anandan labelled deeptech as the final frontier for the Indian startup ecosystem and expressed confidence that the country would emerge a leader in the sector. However, Goyal shared his displeasure with the current state of deeptech in India.

“When I look at deeptech, the numbers are a disturbing sign. Wealth creation in the short term may happen with some of these conveniences. But are we looking at dukaandari (shopkeeping) or are we looking to compete globally with our innovations?” he asked the audience.


In a bid to promote deeptech in India, the Startup Mahakumbh is also hosting a couple of competitions to promote innovations in sectors like cybersecurity, AI, robotics, biotech, among others. The price pool of these competitions is pegged at over INR 70 Cr.


Goyal called for a larger pool of INR 500 Cr worth cash prizes for contests hosted at the next edition of the event. He urged defence ministry, Nasscom, and unicorns to pitch in to make the pool larger moving forward.

 
Deeptech requires institulational support. Research needs to be bottom up. Just look at the number of technical papers coming out of China and India. Without deep reserach orianted culture and institutes dont expect a deep tech startup.
 
He's literally taking udta teer.

A thriving sophisticated tech based start-up ecosystem is built on a very strong research foundation of which the eduation system is the main pillar and our country doesn't have a great track record there. We cna just look at our pandooo neighbours and feel good about our institutes when in actual they're nowhere near American, Chinese institutes.
 
India is still stuck in service sector oriented businesses. Little to no innovation. They only try to implement western ideas in India. All about quick buck.
Just look at companies like Infosys, TCS etc. 3 decades in business. They have never invested in research or developing products of their own. The entire IT industry is in shambles. Relying on outsourced projects can only take the country so far.
China is a major threat to US when it comes to ground breaking new tech. They are going shoulder to shoulder jostling for a position to be at the forefront of innovation.

Future is AI and robotics. India is nowhere in the picture in it. Sad but true.
 
Atleast they realise the problem. I see even podcasters are talking about it now.
Need an independent thought process , hopefully with some economic stability and Independence could be possible.
I still have lots of hope for India. Its all about talent meeting the opportunity. The investment must come from Private sector when it comes to innovation. Government should not be the one doing it. It works in China. Not in India. Government track record in India is very poor. Whatever they touch turns into sheet.

India as of now ranks 4th in AI Ranking across the world. But the Gap between Top 2 and the rest is extremely wide.
 
One more thing is Indian VC eco system doesnt invest in Deep tech. They need quick returns. I believe our educational institutes shud up their game.
 
One more thing is Indian VC eco system doesnt invest in Deep tech. They need quick returns. I believe our educational institutes shud up their game.
I have been trying to raise some funds, its not easy.
Quickly the discussion devolves into basic kirana store bargaining instead of focusing on the tech and long term vision.
But atleast there are conversations happening.
 
Atleast they realise the problem. I see even podcasters are talking about it now.
Need an independent thought process , hopefully with some economic stability and Independence could be possible.
Motu Patlu can continue the dance. There is a conscious effort being taken but again at policy making level but there is lack of firm resolve. Gradually efforts will yield result in 5 year horizon.
 
80% of startup’s in our country are rackets.

I have been supporting this narrative for a long time. All these ex IITians and IIM folks been scamming people in the name of start ups that are usually knock offs for global giants. They’re always running in losses. The founders make a lot of money because of just sheer connections that enable them to get unreasonable funding.

Share holders aren’t making money.
The companies themselves don’t make any money.

In 5-10 years of time majority of these start ups or going to be dust.

 
80% of startup’s in our country are rackets.

I have been supporting this narrative for a long time. All these ex IITians and IIM folks been scamming people in the name of start ups that are usually knock offs for global giants. They’re always running in losses. The founders make a lot of money because of just sheer connections that enable them to get unreasonable funding.

Share holders aren’t making money.
The companies themselves don’t make any money.

In 5-10 years of time majority of these start ups or going to be dust.

Ola's Bhavish Agarwal someone who comes to mind. Krutrim AI, ola electric initiatives are all just for riding the current trend. And ola replaced google maps with some opensource maps and ola can't be used at all now.
 
I have been trying to raise some funds, its not easy.
Quickly the discussion devolves into basic kirana store bargaining instead of focusing on the tech and long term vision.
But atleast there are conversations happening.
Thats sad man! there very few investors who are for long term.
 
Having copycats of western start ups such as food delivery or some edtech is the first step in establishing a tech base. From an entrepreneurs perspective why not go after the low hanging fruit first and reap the rewards of a huge population with little tech solutions in place already?

Developing real technological progress and output will take time. India is behind China in this regard yes bu there is no real shame in this. It's only shameful for those that buy into the India Supapowa narrative.

India also suffers from a severe brain drain of top talent that China doesn't. Indian top tier talent very quickly forgets they are Indian whereas Chinese top talent learns and goes back home.
 
Having copycats of western start ups such as food delivery or some edtech is the first step in establishing a tech base. From an entrepreneurs perspective why not go after the low hanging fruit first and reap the rewards of a huge population with little tech solutions in place already?

Developing real technological progress and output will take time. India is behind China in this regard yes bu there is no real shame in this. It's only shameful for those that buy into the India Supapowa narrative.

India also suffers from a severe brain drain of top talent that China doesn't. Indian top tier talent very quickly forgets they are Indian whereas Chinese top talent learns and goes back home.
This is so true. @Bhaijaan :inti
 
Having copycats of western start ups such as food delivery or some edtech is the first step in establishing a tech base. From an entrepreneurs perspective why not go after the low hanging fruit first and reap the rewards of a huge population with little tech solutions in place already?

Developing real technological progress and output will take time. India is behind China in this regard yes bu there is no real shame in this. It's only shameful for those that buy into the India Supapowa narrative.

India also suffers from a severe brain drain of top talent that China doesn't. Indian top tier talent very quickly forgets they are Indian whereas Chinese top talent learns and goes back home.
This is so true. @Bhaijaan :inti

No hate.
I think this is a positive debate. Whatever’s done is done. Good job. But it is time for us to take a big leap now and prove ourselves to be future ready.

China is not the country we want to be but there’s much to be learnt from them.
 
No hate.
I think this is a positive debate. Whatever’s done is done. Good job. But it is time for us to take a big leap now and prove ourselves to be future ready.

China is not the country we want to be but there’s much to be learnt from them.
The leap will take time. India is not ready for it. Again this isn't criticism, you are on the right track but China is 20-30 years ahead, they have advantage that they are a closed society too. There is also difference in mentality, you guys are proud when of your own becomes CEO of American tech company but that is not a priority for chinese. Again, not a criticism but it shows the differences in mindset and approach.
 
The leap will take time. India is not ready for it. Again this isn't criticism, you are on the right track but China is 20-30 years ahead, they have advantage that they are a closed society too. There is also difference in mentality, you guys are proud when of your own becomes CEO of American tech company but that is not a priority for chinese. Again, not a criticism but it shows the differences in mindset and approach.

If the union minister is saying it now which rarely happens, it’s a clear sign the order has come from Modi to get this debate heated up.

Our honourable PM has a will like no other, if he’s decided in his mind that we must take the big leap now, he will stop at nothing. The government has announced a Rs 10,000 crore fund for deeptech startup’s as per his vision.
 
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