"Players were feeling insecure from threat of Imad, Sarfaraz, Shoaib and Azam": Wahab Riaz

[BunnyRabbit]

Was watching the clip from the cricketing show on YT where Wahab, Amir and Saleem Malik are currently serving as analysts for the wt20.

I find the analysis and tone of Amir to be drenched in hate towards the team, the CS and the chairman.

Saleem Malik for all his knowledge of cricket is probably the one with most international experience but tainted past.

Wahab Riaz for most of the time offers the most balanced analysis as shown by his last year's stint in The Pavilion.

He is definitely salty about his exclusion from the team and was told by CS that he is too old which was corroborated by him last year.

But he made this point after Pak's defeat to Zim that Imad Wasim, Sarfraz Ahmed, Shoaib Malik and Azam Khan are not included in the team due to the insecurity from players in the current squad.

I guess Imad Wasim and Sarfraz Ahmed are the guys Babar is insecure as hinted by him due to them being previous captains at KK and PCT respectively.

Azam Khan is probably Rizwan's competition according to him. Shoaib Malik plays for PZ currently where Wahab captains which says which can be a big confounding factor.

Looking into his comments, I find Imad Wasim to be the only guy Babar would be insecure about. Don't know why Babar would be insecure from Sarfraz' presence as Sarfraz has conducted himself extremely well since his axing as captain. He hasn't said anything negative in the media or the team and has actually restrained himself from giving interviews etc. Imad and Babar used to be very close and Babar vouched for both Malik and Imad for the wt20 2021 last year.

I don't buy Babar being insecure from Shoaib Malik. He was one of Malik's supporters in last year's wt20 as well.

Rizwan doesn't seem like a guy who would be insecure from presence of Azam Khan in the team. Rizwan has performed consistently in last 16 months and can play as a specialist batter as well if Azam is to be given the gloves even though Rizwan's glove work is quite superior to Azam's.

If true, this should be an alarming situation and needs interference from PCB to help rectify this mentality.

But if not true, it would simply prove Wahab turning sour for his axing.

Regarding Shoaib Malik and listening to him on The Pavilion, he sounds like a guy with a tribal mentality vouching for players from Sialkot for the reason they are his city mates.

 

[Major]

Yup i noticed this to that Amir talks with soo much hatred towards Pakistan team.

And this is the guy who spot fixed and sold pakistan. And he has hatred.

Now where are those fans that used to defend him?

 

[Major]

Wahab talks crap. Last year he didnt utter a word agianst Misbah on pavilion. On this show he is talking smack about everyone.

The guy sucks as a bowler but he thinks he has been cheated....

Imad was dropped due to his own poor bowling performance. Sarfraz was not performing and his inclusion was only causing problems from karachi media. THey didnt like that a former captain is on the on the bench and should play just for the sake which is just dumb.

Sarfraz cant bat, and Rizwan performing his job was to give players water. Azam khan is fat, as simple as that.

Malik is not consistent

 

[MenInG]

From the same show:

Mohammad Amir:

"We used to say we are world beaters; we are a strong side but now we are looking for results to go our way. The thing is that now who will take the responsibility for the loss? Will it be Laptop, or Babar or Ramiz Raja?"

"A bowler who does not bowl for even a week regularly, loses his rhythm. Shaheen was coming back from a career-threatening knee injury and he should not have been played. The question should have been asked from people who made him play as we can see from here that he is not completely fit"


Saleem Malik

"We were telling everyone that we have prepared well for the T20 World Cup. Even England was preparing after coming here and everyone was preparing but our chief selector was visiting TV channels with his laptop justifying that we have a good team. But when asked, he used to say we have no other option. Now he should come out and accept that his selection was not right"


Wahab Riaz

"There is lots of insecurity. Pakistan needed only one man in the middle order and that is Shoaib Malik"

"Shaheen has come back from an injury after two and half months. He should not be blamed"

 

[BunnyRabbit]

From the same show:

Mohammad Amir:

"We used to say we are world beaters; we are a strong side but now we are looking for results to go our way. The thing is that now who will take the responsibility for the loss? Will it be Laptop, or Babar or Ramiz Raja?"

"A bowler who does not bowl for even a week regularly, loses his rhythm. Shaheen was coming back from a career-threatening knee injury and he should not have been played. The question should have been asked from people who made him play as we can see from here that he is not completely fit"


Saleem Malik

"We were telling everyone that we have prepared well for the T20 World Cup. Even England was preparing after coming here and everyone was preparing but our chief selector was visiting TV channels with his laptop justifying that we have a good team. But when asked, he used to say we have no other option. Now he should come out and accept that his selection was not right"


Wahab Riaz

"There is lots of insecurity. Pakistan needed only one man in the middle order and that is Shoaib Malik"

"Shaheen has come back from an injury after two and half months. He should not be blamed"

Amir simply is a toxic individual. He hates Ramiz and Wasim. Even if his criticism of them has merit, he is merely erupting all of this for the sake of hatred rather than for betterment of Pak Cricket or being empathic.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Wahab talks crap. Last year he didnt utter a word agianst Misbah on pavilion. On this show he is talking smack about everyone.

The guy sucks as a bowler but he thinks he has been cheated....

Imad was dropped due to his own poor bowling performance. Sarfraz was not performing and his inclusion was only causing problems from karachi media. THey didnt like that a former captain is on the on the bench and should play just for the sake which is just dumb.

Sarfraz cant bat, and Rizwan performing his job was to give players water. Azam khan is fat, as simple as that.

Malik is not consistent

Wasim and Waqar are doing the same since the Zim loss tbh which is pretty awful considering they kept saying this is the best team combination and shouldn't be messed with. Now both are saying we've been saying to change the opening combination since last year.

Wasim was saying the reason he wasn't talking about changing the batting order was because fans would get argumentative. Why the hell was he then insisting RizBab is the best opening combination available?

Regarding Ramiz, his reign has been pretty inconsistent with some good things and some bad but the two worst things he has done have been 1. Not appointing a long term coaching and management department. 1 year contracts are never going to work and team mentors for 20 days of wt20 aren't going to cut it. Long term thinking is required here.
2. Not making home test pitches conducive enough for either pacers or spinners.

Regarding M Wasim, I think he's a common denominator for being the bad apple for a lot of people in the Pak Cricket. (Babar had a beef with him last year, Misbah and Waqar resigned. Misbah said without naming him that wt20 squad was named without his consultation whilst he was in quarantine in Caribbean.).

 

[Suleiman]

Sick of hearing about Sarfraz Ahmed in t20s. Thought all the talks about him would be absolutely crushed and decimated by now but I guess a refresher course is in order.

For anyone still vouching for Sarfraz, please know that he would be wrecked on these pitches. He fluked some runs in the 2015 WC in Aus, but realize that was his only and final purple patch in all 3 formats that lasted from 2014-2015.

After that he was a walking wicket and non performing captain much like Temba Bavuma in limited overs.

Whatever you may think of Rizwan, Rizwan is still a massive upgrade on Sarfraz. If Rizwan is struggling so much, just imagine Sarfraz lol, who was suffering with gloves and the bat.

Sick of the revisionism in our cricket, where past it’s who were rightfully dropped, somehow hijack the memory of our fans and look like Bradman simply because they’re not in the team, and all the bad memories of their performances are erased just because the current batch of players aren’t performing optimally.

This goes triple, nay, QUADRUPLE for Shoaib Malik.

Azam Khan and Imad Wasim may be still be viable options though, I agree, but we didn’t need yet another spinner for Australia. So Azam Khan is the only worthy alternative here.

 

[Asif321]

I don’t think babar is insecure with Sarfraz . They both are best friends and had massive respect for each other . May be with others yes quite possible with Malik and Imad

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Wasim Akram also lamented the exclusion of Malik from the WC saying he was the best middle order option available for Pakistan. He either didn't believe what he said or he didn't watch Malik play against pace in last 5 years. The Guy couldn't face 140+ pace in the slower subcontinental pitches and experts want him to lead middle order in Australia

 

[zaidihusain]

Wasim Akram also lamented the exclusion of Malik from the WC saying he was the best middle order option available for Pakistan. He either didn't believe what he said or he didn't watch Malik play against pace in last 5 years. The Guy couldn't face 140+ pace in the slower subcontinental pitches and experts want him to lead middle order in Australia

Wasim Akram knows very well that Malik is good for nothing, but he was doing balancing act just to keep Malik happy as they both are expert in same show. Malik, Wahab, Imad & Amir are playing victim card after failing in numerous matches. Imad can still play but other 3 doesn't bring any value to the team now except further groupings

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I don’t think babar is insecure with Sarfraz . They both are best friends and had massive respect for each other . May be with others yes quite possible with Malik and Imad

Imad and Babar used to be very close till last year as well.

 

[Markhor]

God these senior cricketers are the most toxic individuals around.

Are any of these suggestions made on basis of facts and data ? Can Wahab not Google Imad and Malik's record in Australia ? Does he think Sarfraz possesses the powergame we need for the middle order ? Can Azam Khan pass a fitness test ?

All these pathetic individuals care about is backing up their mates and making sly comments in the media.

 

[Zaz]

God these senior cricketers are the most toxic individuals around.

Are any of these suggestions made on basis of facts and data ? Can Wahab not Google Imad and Malik's record in Australia ? Does he think Sarfraz possesses the powergame we need for the middle order ? Can Azam Khan pass a fitness test ?

All these pathetic individuals care about is backing up their mates and making sly comments in the media.

All they do further their own agendas They get bitter about not being picked and then go to any lengths to join in kicking their fellow pros whilst they are down

I mean which players are gonna be insecure of perenial losers like malik, wahab, overweight azam khan and sarfraz who was pretty much a non performing captain?

These players and ex players are all toxic foul individuals and better out of the team than in it

 

[pratiktc]

All of Pak former cricketers are idiots who only revel in these gossipy tabloid type shows. Very few try to make effort to be good broadcasters/analysts and present any good technical analysis or balanced perspective.

Gist of almost every analysis show is we knew this would happen, selectors should have listened to us, pick XYZ and finally ending up with some anecdote about how life was better in their era.

In this regard, atleast Indian cricketers make an effort to be good at their second careers. Akash Chopra is a hack commentator but a good analyst in YT content comfortable in Hindi and English. Jadeja and Sehwag present good opinions in Hindi analysis on cricbuzz videos.

Guys like Zaheer, Parthiv, RP Singh, Deepdas Gupta, Murali Kartik are average/below average analysts and commentators but you can see that they are making efforts to try and improve their skillsets compared to the blowhard 80s era of prev India 'expert' analysts like Madan Lal, Chetan Sharma, Atul wassan.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

All of Pak former cricketers are idiots who only revel in these gossipy tabloid type shows. Very few try to make effort to be good broadcasters/analysts and present any good technical analysis or balanced perspective.

Gist of almost every analysis show is we knew this would happen, selectors should have listened to us, pick XYZ and finally ending up with some anecdote about how life was better in their era.

In this regard, atleast Indian cricketers make an effort to be good at their second careers. Akash Chopra is a hack commentator but a good analyst in YT content comfortable in Hindi and English. Jadeja and Sehwag present good opinions in Hindi analysis on cricbuzz videos.

Guys like Zaheer, Parthiv, RP Singh, Deepdas Gupta, Murali Kartik are average/below average analysts and commentators but you can see that they are making efforts to try and improve their skillsets compared to the blowhard 80s era of prev India 'expert' analysts like Madan Lal, Chetan Sharma, Atul wassan.

tbh Sehwag and Mishra go quite overboard when it comes to taunts and anti Pakistan material.

Wasim Jaffer is a good analyst.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Wasim Akram knows very well that Malik is good for nothing, but he was doing balancing act just to keep Malik happy as they both are expert in same show. Malik, Wahab, Imad & Amir are playing victim card after failing in numerous matches. Imad can still play but other 3 doesn't bring any value to the team now except further groupings

Imad has remained silent and hasn't said anything in public which is good. Malik and Amir have been their usual selves.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Wahab Riaz did present a good point that the focal point of batting no.5 has to be more consistent. He said Shadab himself would acknowledge that he hasn't done well as a batter in this tournament. Said that in both matches if Shadab had played on for a little longer, the results would have been different which is fair enough.

But the thing is there is lack of clarity in the team on what the batting order is after top 3 and what their roles are. They keep shuffling Nawaz, Shadab, Iftikhar and Haider around to the point they don't even know what their roles are. Haider though is a total dunce. Shadab and Nawaz should be given clear roles.

 

[hitthestump]

One issue i can see with Babar is that sadly nobody has any fear in talking smack about him.

Everyone is laying into him without an ounce of fear of having to bump into him at some point in the future.

Honestly if i am Babar the last thing on my mind is going to be stepping down. All he can do is respond with the bat. He has no other option here.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Never take Amir Fixer serious! He can dance on any tune for few bucks.

 

[Zaz]

One issue i can see with Babar is that sadly nobody has any fear in talking smack about him.

Everyone is laying into him without an ounce of fear of having to bump into him at some point in the future.

Honestly if i am Babar the last thing on my mind is going to be stepping down. All he can do is respond with the bat. He has no other option here.

hes too nice for his own good He needs to toughen up You wouldnt see this happening with someone like kohli because he would in one way or another answer these bufoons back especially these unretired players

if i was babar id make sure i never work with the likes of wqar and wasim ever again and the likes of amir, wahab, malik and co never selected again to play alongside him

you cant talk smack about the national captain and them expect to work alongside him like nothings happened

 

[hitthestump]

hes too nice for his own good He needs to toughen up You wouldnt see this happening with someone like kohli because he would in one way or another answer these bufoons back especially these unretired players

if i was babar id make sure i never work with the likes of wqar and wasim ever again and the likes of amir, wahab, malik and co never selected again to play alongside him

you cant talk smack about the national captain and them expect to work alongside him like nothings happened

These traits are formed from a young age. Babar isn't going to develop a fear factor about him now.

That doesn't mean Babar should give up. He has one weapon available to him that nobody else does. And he needs to wield it better than he has ever done before.

 

[Madplayer]

Wahab living in a world of his own. Nobody is scared of the players he mentioned. Azam khan? Lol

 

[hitthestump]

Imad has remained silent and hasn't said anything in public which is good. Malik and Amir have been their usual selves.

Indeed. He had a solid CPL and kept his mouth shut. As we can see, everyone else is now doing the talking for him. Very smart.

Malik and Amir are running their mouths because they are empty vessels with nothing to give anymore.

 

[topspin]

He's right about Imad. He'd walk into this team as a batsman alone.

 

[hitthestump]

He's right about Imad. He'd walk into this team as a batsman alone.

It's an open secret why Imad isn't in the team when he rightly should be.

The other names are nonsense. We needed Shoaib Malik in the 2019 WC. What did he do then? And now he is going to be our saviour despite his joke of a record in Australia. Do me a favour.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Indeed. He had a solid CPL and kept his mouth shut. As we can see, everyone else is now doing the talking for him. Very smart.

Malik and Amir are running their mouths because they are empty vessels with nothing to give anymore.

I don't think there is any malice there. The way both Imad and Sarfraz have conducted themselves (in public atleast) is commendable. Imad has spoken against the CS which is the only outburst he's had.

 

[happydavy]

Blaming selection for failures is all about comforting yourself that Pakistan isn't a bad team but because of wrong selections they lost. As an outsider (but wellwisher of Pak team), i feel fans are being too hard on their team. Pakistan's problem is that they take victory or defeat against India too intensely, which they shouldn't in a big tournament. I suspect Pakistani players were just too demoralised after losing to India and that reflected in how they played. Even now, not all is lost. Tomorrow if India defeats SA then Pakistan's entry in semis is almost guaranteed as their next matches are against minnows. Just have some faith and be hopeful, Pakistan still has a very good chance of entering semis. You don't achieve great things in life without some luck.

 

[Oneking]

At least picture is clear for Babar, he knows who’s is real friends are. On the other side these analysts are not doing anything different then how they were treated when they were players.
Waqar was a captain and coach for Pakistan team what did he achieved nothing.
Misbah same mohali as a captain and as a coach what did he achieved nothing
Wasim Akram as captain lost to Australia selected to bat after winning the toss on a green surface in the World Cup final every analyst in the world was bombazalled and then ended up on the podium with Shane Warne after the game
Amir same sold the country
Salim Malik same his accomplishments are zero
Yes the team is not doing well but Promoting Malik is not the answer Sarfraz is not the answer
Team selection was wrong from last year this was gonna happen screw seniors but don’t bring old dusted players are say they could have saved us invest in future and stick to it
Get rid of chacha no one is saying he should be sack
No one is asking why Fakhar is not playing
No one is questioning Babar captaincy during the games
They need to stop spitting poison and start stating the facts and provide solution other then Malik

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Rizwan is a selfish individual Sarfraz should replace him.

All criticism of Babar is justified he is destroying Pakistan cricket series by series.