Poor selection. Poor bowling. Poor catching. Poor captaincy. Poor coaching.

[Yossarian]

Poor selection: Not selecting Yasir Shah, Pakistan's highest ranked bowler. You can't go into a Test match without your quality spinner who potentially could have made a difference on day 4 or day 5.

Poor bowling: Too many deliveries allowing risk free shots. Too many deliveries allowing the batsman to leave the ball on a pitch like this.

Poor catching: Three dropped catches. Two of which straightforward drops, by the same fielder, off the same bowler, off the same batsman. Very disheartening for the bowler.

Poor captaincy: Reactive rather than proactive.

Poor coaching: How come the highly paid specialist coaches couldn't see that the player (who dropped the catches at 1st slip) couldn't catch a football if it was gently lobbed to him from 5 yards away?

 

[PakLFC]

I missed much of the dropped catches. Who was dropped?

 

[Major]

Am i the only one who sees the last two actual batsmen standing with scores under 200 and collapse into the tail happening any minute.


This is test cricket this is how its suppose to be.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Agreed. Pakistan should pack their bags and go home. This is very disrespectful from NZ, how dare they bat well against us?

 

[aloo paratha]

170/5 lol chill

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Really dont see how dropping Yasir is an issue when its in NZ, the worst country in the world for spin, and on a green track perfect for medium pace.

 

[FreePalestine]

170/5 lol chill

tbh, this is not a 350 pitch, so 170-5 is not a bad score. Anything above 200 is par, 220 is above par on this wicket in the first innings. NZ will bowl better lengths, catch better and bowl at batsmen less experienced in these conditions.

 

[Yossarian]

I missed much of the dropped catches. Who was dropped?

Raval dropped twice by Sami Aslam at 1st slip off Amir. The first drop in the 1st over.

On both occasions Sami's hands were far apart when the ball reached him, and his eyes were not even following the ball in towards his hands. Both fairly easy drops. Raval went on to score 55.

 

[Barragan]

Bowling has blown hot and cold, but they were really good today (so far).

I agree, catching has been abysmal from Sami and he shouldn't have been there ahead of Rizwan.

Yeah, coaches should have advised them better about the slip cordon and about Imran going around the wicket to lefties because he was much, much better around.

 

[Buffet]

Overreaction here. NZ is not in strong position and pitch is not that difficult to bat. Pakistan should get NZ within 250 and then bat well to take a decent lead. NZ batting is shaky.

 

[Yossarian]

170/5 lol chill

Should have been a lot better (for Pakistan) on this pitch given the conditions.

 

[aloo paratha]

tbh, this is not a 350 pitch, so 170-5 is not a bad score. Anything above 200 is par, 220 is above par on this wicket in the first innings. NZ will bowl better lengths, catch better and bowl at batsmen less experienced in these conditions.

OP making it look like it's the end of the world, and like a poster said above, this is test cricket, can change in 15 minutes.

 

[Buffet]

Should have been a lot better (for Pakistan) on this pitch given the conditions.

True, Pakistan got best conditions to bowl, but NZ is still not in strong position.

 

[Yossarian]

OP making it look like it's the end of the world, and like a poster said above, this is test cricket, can change in 15 minutes.

So which of the points in the OP you believe are incorrect, and Pakistan did very well regarding those particular points?

 

[Major]

Should have been a lot better (for Pakistan) on this pitch given the conditions.

Why? Because you felt like it?

Stop reading into the first test. Its Nzs backyard, they will obviously not bundle up for under 200 that easily on green wickets, they are the home team.

 

[Yossarian]

Why? Because you felt like it?

Stop reading into the first test. Its Nzs backyard, they will obviously not bundle up for under 200 that easily on green wickets, they are the home team.

As I said in the previous post, which of the points in the OP you believe are incorrect, and Pakistan did very well regarding those particular points?

 

[Major]

As I said in the previous post, which of the points in the OP you believe are incorrect, and Pakistan did very well regarding those particular points?

Nothing has been done wrong as of yet.

Catching to some extent but no big damage has been done as the batsmen only scored 50 runs, which isnt really that much of a score in test cricket. Its not like as if a mamonth has been scored by the batsmen for which we need to start whinning about.

Selection might be one dimensional, but what gurantee was there that yasir would had spun the ball here and done more damage then the pacers. Remember, yasir is a leggie. Leggies need long spells to work in test cricket, offies are good for short spells. The wicket is suited for spinners who could get you a wicket in a short spell.

Nothing wrong with captaincy, nothing wrong with coaching.

)at the bowlers allowing the batsmen to leave the ball comment

 

[Finisher]

120 runs scored in boundaries

 

[Yossarian]

Nothing has been done wrong as of yet.

Catching to some extent but no big damage has been done as the batsmen only scored 50 runs, which isnt really that much of a score in test cricket. Its not like as if a mamonth has been scored by the batsmen for which we need to start whinning about.

So in your book a batsman being dropped twice, 1st time when he's scored only 4 and it's the 3rd ball of the Test match, and scores 'only 51 more' is no big deal in what should be a low scoring match? You're forgetting that (thus far) the leading scorers wicket falling when the score is 4, as opposed to 113, makes a big difference on a pitch like this, and makes a big difference to the state of play and the pressure on a new batsman coming in.

Selection might be one dimensional, but what gurantee was there that yasir would had spun the ball here and done more damage then the pacers. Remember, yasir is a leggie. Leggies need long spells to work in test cricket, offies are good for short spells. The wicket is suited for spinners who could get you a wicket in a short spell.

There is no guarantee for any player performing in a particular match. However, the opposition potentially batting on day 5 and trying to save a Test match is far more likely to be tested by the highest ranked bowler on either team if he was playing, even if he's a spinner bowling on a pitch like this, than if he was not in the playing XI

 

[Yossarian]

120 runs scored in boundaries

Yep. Risk free shots due to too many rank deliveries.

 

[Big Mac]

I wouldn't have dropped Yasir but other than that, I don't see any reason to reach for the razor blades.

 

[Yossarian]

I wouldn't have dropped Yasir but other than that, I don't see any reason to reach for the razor blades.

Would the Aussies have put someone with the slip catching technique (or rather lack of) of Sami Aslam at first slip?

 

[Aman]

Relax, you're probably going to win this Test.

 

[Big Mac]

Would the Aussies have put someone with the slip catching technique (or rather lack of) of Sami Aslam at first slip?

The Aussies have players who can catch though.

 

[Yossarian]

The Aussies have players who can catch though.

Doesn't answer the question.

 

[Big Mac]

Doesn't answer the question.

Ask better questions.

 

[kingusama92]

The 1st innings isn't even over.

Criticism over selection should be reserved after the match. Poor catching and poor bowling have been a major issue in this innings though.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Agreed. Pakistan should pack their bags and go home. This is very disrespectful from NZ, how dare they bat well against us?

Exactly. What even are some Pakistani fans?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Poor thread

 

[Executioner]

Lol Pakistan are in half decent position

 

[Abdullah719]

OP forgot the most important of the lot - poor batting.

 

[MenInG]

Poor selection: Not selecting Yasir Shah, Pakistan's highest ranked bowler. You can't go into a Test match without your quality spinner who potentially could have made a difference on day 4 or day 5.

Poor bowling: Too many deliveries allowing risk free shots. Too many deliveries allowing the batsman to leave the ball on a pitch like this.

Poor catching: Three dropped catches. Two of which straightforward drops, by the same fielder, off the same bowler, off the same batsman. Very disheartening for the bowler.

Poor captaincy: Reactive rather than proactive.

Poor coaching: How come the highly paid specialist coaches couldn't see that the player (who dropped the catches at 1st slip) couldn't catch a football if it was gently lobbed to him from 5 yards away?

Why do you assume that Steve Rixon has not practiced for days with these people?

 

[Nil Dhumrojal]

Very poor thread. This is test cricket man. And these are the beauties of test cricket. Loving the match. Enjoying the series.

 

[Hasan123]

Nightmare of a tour so far

 

[Yossarian]

OP forgot the most important of the lot - poor batting.

As a Mod, perhaps you could add that to the OP.

 

[Major]

looks like maybe OP was right, poor selection indeed regarding Yasir. Could have helped right now

 

[Yossarian]

looks like maybe OP was right, poor selection indeed regarding Yasir. Could have helped right now

Yep. Same goes for the other points mentioned in the OP.

 

[The_KING]

Not watching the match thankfully. How is Azhar doing as a captain? Better or worse than Misbah?

 

[Yossarian]

Not watching the match thankfully. How is Azhar doing as a captain? Better or worse than Misbah?

Living up to the comment in the OP.

 

[Space Cat]

Why do you assume that Steve Rixon has not practiced for days with these people?

Rixon is a great coach i watched him drilling the players in fielding during the chch test and his coaching is certainly not the issue. Hes highly regarded in nz cricket also.

 

[waleed88]

Selecting Yasir Shah would've cost us the same runs NZ scored in their 2nd innings, to be in the first ones..

We would've been on the receiving end of conceding 400 runs in the first innings, and a chance of an innings defeat since our batsmen batted almost similarly to the first test match... The end result would've been the same, Yasir would only be effective if we had runs on Board..

No runs on board, what are you gonna defend?? Peanuts?