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Poor start to PSL 3: What can Lahore Qalandars do to turn it around?

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  1. Give the captaincy to Fakhar, play BMac as opener
  2. Drop Umar Akmal, bring in Yamin
  3. Drop Delport, bring in Lynn
  4. Drop Afridi, bring in Sohail Khan
 
Bring in sohail Khan for yasir shah as he will add batting depth

Take out raza hasan for bilal asif to add more batting depth.
 
Lynn is not available otherwise they would have been playing him.
 
They need to consolidate and bat properly whenever quick wickets fall. All teams have the brains to do this depending on the situation.
 
Yesterday, the batting wasn't so bad and it need some minor tweaking down the order, but they changed it completely - why?

Some stupid thinking by the captain and coach.
 
Consolidate in the 10 overs after the power play hitting big sixes isn't needed always conserving wickets is Raza and Narine need to improve they are better bowlers than what we've seen in the first 2 matches.
 
Three out of the four in the top-order are unreliable. Non-existent lower-order. What we're people expecting? Fakhar Zaman himself is an aggressive player and the responsibility of holding this Lahore team together is too much for him.
 
Top order heavy, even in that they have baz and akmal who are hit and miss. Don't see them putting up competitive totals unless Fakhar gives them a good start.

All in all weakest batting line up by far in PSL.
 
Abdullah719 said:
That's what they did in the first match...
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Yep and that is a better approach but that extra spot should be used for a proper batsman. Unfortunately, after giving a second look to their squad, they don't seem to have a single reliable batman in there.
 
They desperately need at least one stabilizing figure in their batting order. There is no one that could be considered reliable in their batting. Other sides have Sangas, Maliks, Watsons or even Hafeezs.

There is also a fast bowler missing in the line up.

Twenty overs seem to be too much for these players.

For this poor squad combination the think thank needs to be changed.

Can Ramdin do better than Delport?
 
Gayle_Force said:
Yep and that is a better approach but that extra spot should be used for a proper batsman. Unfortunately, after giving a second look to their squad, they don't seem to have a single reliable batman in there.
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They need to do following.
Remove Aqib Javed from the coaching position (and make sure he doenst come anywhere near that)

Change Baz as captain (Fakhar would be ideal)
Open with Fakhar and Baz (Narian at 6-7)
Umar to keep wickets, include Bilal Asif, drop one more spinner for Yamin.

Results will come.
 
RehanG said:
They need to do following.
Remove Aqib Javed from the coaching position (and make sure he doenst come anywhere near that)

Change Baz as captain (Fakhar would be ideal)
Open with Fakhar and Baz (Narian at 6-7)
Umar to keep wickets, include Bilal Asif, drop one more spinner for Yamin.

Results will come.
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Changing a captain in the middle of the tournament may not be such a good idea. I support KK and I clearly remember the chaos when Shoaib Malik opted out of captaincy in the middle of first season.
 
1) Drop Raza Hasan for Sohail Khan
2) Bring in Malan for Lynn
3) Drop Delport for Malan
4) Baz take the WK gloves
5) Yamin in for Gulraiz

I would've preferred a WK-batsman for Lynn but there are no proven ones left and Delport is terrible so we need a capable middle order batsman who has match awareness like Malan. 3 Spinners is excessive especially when two of them are Yasir Shah and Narine so Sohail Khan is needed as a wicket taking option. Is he injured or something as he is not being picked even though he is a good enough bowler and he can hit hard with the bat. Baz needs to take the gloves as Gulraiz is simply not good enough with the bat and U. Akmal is a liability as byes can be the difference between winning and losing if you have a poor WK.
 
waqar goraya said:
They desperately need at least one stabilizing figure in their batting order. There is no one that could be considered reliable in their batting. Other sides have Sangas, Maliks, Watsons or even Hafeezs.

There is also a fast bowler missing in the line up.

Twenty overs seem to be too much for these players.

For this poor squad combination the think thank needs to be changed.

Can Ramdin do better than Delport?
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They can sign Malan, still haven't got a replacement for Lynn.

Play Sohail Khan.

Also this one-over spells plan doesn't seem to be working.
 
Ellipsism said:
Apparently Sher isn’t fully fit, if what the comms said is right.
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I missed that, lost interest in the match pretty soon.

Enter Imran Khan jnr. to save the day :bhatti

I don't understand why LQ don't have any thought behind their selections.

Shaheen, Ghulam, Irshad - three young and inexperienced pacers, out of which only one is likely to play.

Fizz and IK jnr. - Slow and slower cutters.

Sohail Akhtar and Yamin - both more batsmen than bowlers.

THREE off-spin all-rounders in Narine, Salman, Bilal.

And no proper batsmen :danish
 
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I was surprised to see that they did not play Denesh Ramdin if they wanted a proper keeper. He is more than decent in limited overs cricket as he can consolidate and dominate the bowlers (bad deliveries).

It's either U. Akmal or D. Ramdin. With Umar you should just accept that he will miss a catch or leak a few runs here and there.

Also Bilal Asif is a pretty decent T20 player. They got their combination totally wrong which will hurt the PSL as we will get many one sided games because of them.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
I was surprised to see that they did not play Denesh Ramdin if they wanted a proper keeper. He is more than decent in limited overs cricket as he can consolidate and dominate the bowlers (bad deliveries).

It's either U. Akmal or D. Ramdin. With Umar you should just accept that he will miss a catch or leak a few runs here and there.

Also Bilal Asif is a pretty decent T20 player. They got their combination totally wrong which will hurt the PSL as we will get many one sided games because of them.
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Ramdin just joined up with the squad yesterday so he probably wasn't match-fit for this game. That's before we consider that he's a nothing player, though no doubt better than Gulraiz. Plus, they would have to bench one of Baz/Delport/Narine/Fizz to play a mediocre player.

They need a proper batsman in the team.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
By the way what happened to Grant Elliot? He was pretty good last season.
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He was involved with coaching during the Lahore Qalandars' Rising Stars tournament late last year so has some links with LQ but wasn't retained as a player.

Was in the draft but wasn't picked.
 
Abdullah719 said:
He was involved with coaching during the Lahore Qalandars' Rising Stars tournament late last year so has some links with LQ but wasn't retained as a player.

Was in the draft but wasn't picked.
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That's a pity. I would rather have Elliot than Delport. Hopefully the Qalanders will get some other decent foreign batsman.

We need a better Lahore side for the sake of the PSL.
 
Abdullah719 said:
I missed that, lost interest in the match pretty soon.

Enter Imran Khan jnr. to save the day :bhatti

I don't understand why LQ don't have any thought behind their selections.

Shaheen, Ghulam, Irshad - three young and inexperienced pacers, out of which only one is likely to play.

Fizz and IK jnr. - Slow and slower cutters.

Sohail Akhtar and Yamin - both more batsmen than bowlers.

THREE off-spin all-rounders in Narine, Salman, Bilal.

And no proper batsmen :danish
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Imran Khan was such a rubbish pick, I don’t think they realised they were already stocked in the spinning department. :P
 
They're the Delhi Daredevils of PSL. Constantly seeing them on the bottom of the table always gives me pleasure.

On topic, they need to get rid of the loser that Umar Akmal is.
 
Drop Umar Akmal and Raza/Yasir and play Yamin and Sohail Khan. Also to not bat like complete idiots, if you get a good start then play sensibly for 7-8 overs and build partnerships.

Fire Aaqib Javed!
 
The mindset is full aggressive. When you have a top order that only plays one way then why would you want to play Narine as a pinch hitter too? (This clearly gives you the idea of their planning)
 
There is absolutely no problem with the players, they have got World Class T20 players(except that SHARAMFUL guy), the main problem is pathetic and Phateechar coaching staff, team management and too much interference of Fawad Rana in team affairs.
 
Understand the fact that they can score 160-170 and still win. It's as if they feel anything under 220 won't cut it.
 
How about getting Fawad Alam in the middle to add some stability. Someone who can hold one end and others to play around him. Moreover Fawad will envy this role of rotating the strike and holding one end.
 
Make a batting order and then stick to it for a while. I know such changes might be a norm in this age in T20 cricket, but it might well be amongst the worst things to do if your team is failing as theirs is.

Also, pardon myself being so overly harsh on him, but the team needs stability and a calm-going leader in a situation like this. McCullum is a great captain, but hit-or-miss approach looks fine from a few of your batsmen for example from the top-order, but the whole batting line-up can´t bat like that. So a slight change in mindset and approach is needed. Again, pardon if I´m being too critical of one man.

What an almighty brainfade that was yesterday by Lahore after such a blazing start. Loosely calculated, they made 70 runs off the last 15 overs when they had eight wickets in hand. Wow!
 
Mitch Mcclenaghan surely deserves a chance one of the best t20 bowlers in the world, I would play him over delport to strengthen the fast bowling. They also need to replace Lynn with someone who can nudge the ball around and bat throughout the innings. George bailey would be a good option.
 
They need to realise you don't always need to be gung ho. Instead of trying to hit every ball for 6, they should realise certain bowlers need to be milked and certain bowlers needs to be targeted. The batting is the main issue for me. There aren't many opitions in the current squad who can improve the last 2 performances. So they need to relay on thse current players.
 
neonoir said:
Mitch Mcclenaghan surely deserves a chance one of the best t20 bowlers in the world, I would play him over delport to strengthen the fast bowling. They also need to replace Lynn with someone who can nudge the ball around and bat throughout the innings. George bailey would be a good option.
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I would also love to see him play but but and but, the problem isn't bowling it's batting and has been same thing in all 3 seasons
 
Drop Baz as Captain and let Fakhar take over, surely its time now.
 
They can do nothing. They are relying on Baz and Fakhar to score the bulk of runs. Both of them are free-flowing players who cannot be bogged down with the responsibility of holding the innings together.

Awful selections all round. Umar Akmal should be banished from top-level cricket and be forced to play Grade 2.
 
When one of your star players is Umar Akmal then I’m afraid you can’t really do anything:kp
 
Umar Akmal needs to be kicked out. Total let down and failure.

We need to bring more stability to the middle order. Sadly we can't do anything about it this season, going to have to wait for next year.
 
They need MS Dhoni kinda player. Who can captain and who can take singles.
 
They thought the game against KK was already in bag and they start thinking about improving the net run rate and look what happened; they lost the game which was easily winnable.

They need a sensible batsman who can rotate the strike. I suggest they trade Umar Akmal to Quetta for Saad Ali. Saad Ali is not getting a game in Quetta and is being wasted there. Here he will immediately become Lahore's 2nd best batsman after Fakhr. Its also a good suggestion for Umar Akmal who needs a change of scenery to become relevant again.
 
They shouldn't have left out Grant Elliot. He solved some issues for them last season as he added with the ball and bat.

Hopefully they get a proper bat in.
 
Drop Umar Akmal for the remainder of PSL. Release him from the franchise next year. Fire Aqib Javed and then get some proper batsman in the team. Right now they only rely on Baz and Fakhar who are both hit and miss.
 
They need to bring Hafeez and give him the captaincy. He is a good tactician, and can hold their batting together with his selfishness.

A swap with Fakhar would be ideal. Fakhar’s rightful place is in Zalmi. It just feels wrong to see him in another team.

Same goes for Hafeez, he belongs to the Qalandars.
 
What is the fundamental problem with Lahore Qalandars?

They have finished dead last in the first 2 seasons of the PSL and are again looking to repeat the same thing this year as well. In fact, I believe this has been the their worst start in the PSL ever which is saying something...

I don't think it is down to an individual players performance or lack of.

Could it be:
- McCullum's poor captaincy and poor demeanor - just does not look interested.
- Paddy Upton and now Aaqib not strategizing and getting the past out of the players
- Too many ineffective foreigners like Delport, Devcich, Ramdin etc.
- No world class middle order batsman
- Coaching and management staff (Inzy, Shoaib Akhtar, Kyle Mills etc.) continue to get paid to do nothing

Any other reasons?

Discuss!
 
Unreliable batting basically

Also something I noticed from Aqib Javed, He was giving an interview during the game and saying we have tried so many combinations already have none have worked so hopefully this one will work, It looks like they're just randomly picking combinations out of the hat and hoping it will work lol.
 
Mcculum should give caipatincy to Fakhar himself and Shaheen needs to get a break and Salman Irshad should be borught it.

Lineup for the next match should be like:

Fakhar (C)
Mcculum
Umar
Agha
Narine
Ramdin
Akhtar
Khan
Shah
Irshad
Fizz/Mcclenaghan(To add more batting depth as Mcc can hit)
 
Fakhar, Mcculum should give an aggressive start, let Umar play whatever way he wanna play. Agha Should atleast go run a bowl and consolidate and ideally go till the end. If he doesnt click then Ramdin should be promoted to play the same role while Narine, Akhtar and Sohail Khan can play their natural game hopefully towards the end of the innings.
 
Everything.

- McCullum seems least interested. The way he was playing yesterday (I admit that he rarely holds back but what he was doing yesterday was Afridiish. I may be wrong but I don't think he plays like that in BBL and IPL). Moreover, he rarely seemed to be taking interest in the game as a captain. He said yes to an atrocious review for lbw and then when young Shaheen was being hit around, he didn't bother much with advice or instructions. It just feels like he takes this a lot lighter than when he is playing BBL or IPL.

- Their squad selection makes little sense. They were relying too heavily on foreign talent and that too players who are known to be injury prone - Chris Lynn and Angelo Matthews, and when the two of them withdrew they didn't have any backup plan. They didn't pick any local middle order batsman except Umar Akmal (the less said the better) and no local batting allrounder. They picked 9 bowlers and 3 bowling allrounders in a squad of 23 (down to 21 after Lynn and Matthews).

- Their strategy does not match their team selection. They have regularly been picking 6 specialist bowlers and their middle order is paper thin with Akmal and Sohail Akhtar. They go out all guns blazing at the top with McCullum and Zaman, but with Sohail Akhtar or Dinesh Ramdin coming in at 3 or even 4 down there is very little hope of them winning matches unless the top three play 12-15 overs.

Barring individual brilliance, they don't stand much of a chance as a team.The best they can do imo is to drop down McCullum to 4 to give the middle order some experience, bring in Devcich/Delport at 3 who can bowl some part time along with Yamin and Agha Salman at 7 and 8 and play only 4 specialist bowlers (Narine, Mustafiz, Shaheen, Sohail/Yasir depending on conditions). Even then the team would not really be balanced because they will need Akmal to keep.
 
You know what's worse? Fizz will play a couple of matches more at most
 
Slog said:
Why?
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He is the most famous Pashtun player to emerge recently and lives in KP as well. Zalmi have branded themselves as a very Pashtun team, and they need to make him their flagship player.

For the same reasons, it felt weird to see Afridi not play for Karachi in the first two seasons. Similarly, if Sialkot get a franchise in the future, it will be weird to see Malik not play for them.

Some players belong to certain franchises. However, for some reason I do not get the same feeling as far as Kamran and Sarfraz are concerned. They do not look out of place to me in Peshawar and Quetta.
 
Mamoon said:
He is the most famous Pashtun player to emerge recently and lives in KP as well. Zalmi have branded themselves as a very Pashtun team, and they need to make him their flagship player.

For the same reasons, it felt weird to see Afridi not play for Karachi in the first two seasons. Similarly, if Sialkot get a franchise in the future, it will be weird to see Malik not play for them.

Some players belong to certain franchises. However, for some reason I do not get the same feeling as far as Kamran and Sarfraz are concerned. They do not look out of place to me in Peshawar and Quetta.
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Sarfaraz is a Karachi icon but perhaps he doesnt look out of place there since Quetta is essentially Karachi 2.0 with Nadeem Omar and basically sourcing 3 players who have been playing together since age of 13-14 (Shafiq, Sarfaraz and Anwar Ali).

I agree with your point generally. For eg. its wierd seeing Junaid Khan turn out for Multan. Same was with Sami for Islamabad initially but now used to it.

Fakhar is an interesting case. He would have fitted in Karachi too since he lived here in his youth and also started his domestic career here (Karachi Blues)

This is exactly the reason why I felt there was a need for atleast 3 home region players in each team.
 
They don't have the batting, it's not a mentality or captaincy thing, Baz's style of captaincy can be very effective on a group of mentally strong and reliable players, this team just feels too brittle. Barring Akmal carrying them, I can't see them put a big score up and bat out the overs without the tail lingering, and if you have to rely on Akmal, you've selected a poor batting unit, not numerically, but qualitatively.
 
They need to get rid of Brendon McCullum. His influence has ruined the franchise. He is as brainless as Afridi, maybe even worse. Has a one track approach towards the game of cricket and is not a good thinker of the game. He has tried to instill an attacking approach from 1-11 and has asked his batsmen to go out there with the mindset of scoring a 17 ball 50.

In these conditions, brainless attack will always lead you to doom. Just take a leaf out of Misbah's book and learn how to play in these conditions. McCullum succeeded with the NZ team because he had sensible players in Williamson and Ross Taylor who consolidated in the middle overs. At Lahore, he has no such influence so instead of finding someone who can bat 20 overs, he has instead instructed all of his batsmen to go gung-ho from the start as if he wants 250 every time they bat.

I have no sympathy for Fawad Rana because he should've removed McCullum and Aaqib Javed after seeing his side perform hopelessly for 2 seasons. If he expected things will change with the same setup and more or less the same players, he is as much to blame. Karachi were quick and decisive in shipping out Gayle, bringing in Afridi, employing a young captain and they look a different team. Lahore has to take smart decisions otherwise they will end up 6th.
 
1. Captaincy isn't the problem.
2. No way can you drop Umar Akmal, as he can hit big.
3. Isn't Lynn injured?
4. I would persist with Shaheen.

My playing XI;

Fakhar
Gulraiz +
McCullum *
Umar
Delport
Akhtar
Yamin
Devcich
Yasir
Shaheen
Mustafiz

I would play Devcich over Narine, as the former is more reliable with the bat, and bowling wise both can have the same value economy wise. Gulraiz should open, as he is useless in the lower order. Lahore should continue with their attacking batting strategy, they can make a comeback.
 
Its seems that they have little interest in trying to actually win any games. In the game that they were chasing around 180, and they had 2 batsman in(Akmal and FZ) and i could have bet my bottom dollar they were going to lose. There seems to be no one that wants to see the game through. BM seems not to care at all and bar Fakhar they have no one of any quality. And Umar Akmal is brain dead as ever.
 
Why is Narine opening the batting?
Why is Umar Akmal in the team?
Why are they batting like it's a T10?
Why isn't there a cool head being picked in the middle order?
 
Saj said:
Why is Narine opening the batting?
Why is Umar Akmal in the team?
Why are they batting like it's a T10?
Why isn't there a cool head being picked in the middle order?
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Why is Narine opening the batting?

Ans: Because he is opening in many other leagues IPL,CPL

Why is Umar Akmal in the team?

He is the Platinium category player and had two good PSL seasons already and 3rd Highest scorer over all and top scorer in 1st year.

Why are they batting like it's a T10?

Because they selected T10 players. Everyone has 5th or 1st gear.


Why isn't there a cool head being picked in the middle order?

They selected Angelo Mathews to stable middle order but he got injured.
 
hailian said:
Why is Narine opening the batting?

Ans: Because he is opening in many other leagues IPL,CPL

Why is Umar Akmal in the team?

He is the Platinium category player and had two good PSL seasons already and 3rd Highest scorer over all and top scorer in 1st year.

Why are they batting like it's a T10?

Because they selected T10 players. Everyone has 5th or 1st gear.


Why isn't there a cool head being picked in the middle order?

They selected Angelo Mathews to stable middle order but he got injured.
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They had the chance to replace Mathews and Lynn with proper players.

Instead, they chose Devcich (they have 100 all-rounders) already and no one in place of Lynn, instead calling up Ramdin early. :danish

Horrible selections.
 
Abdullah719 said:
They had the chance to replace Mathews and Lynn with proper players.

Instead, they chose Devcich (they have 100 all-rounders) already and no one in place of Lynn, instead calling up Ramdin early. :danish

Horrible selections.
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In replacement draft there were no good batsmen left so they had to pick Devcic to replace Mathews. They are not allowed to replace Lynn unless another a new replacement draft happens, that's why they called Ramdin.
 
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