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Positive signals rising from Pakistan’s economy

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https://tribune.com.pk/story/2109528/6-positive-signals-rising-pakistans-economy/

Dramatically rising from the ashes of its predecessor, a phoenix, in ancient Greek mythology, is a bird reborn after a catastrophe with more strength and power. After posting 49 months of back-to-back current account deficits, Pakistan’s economy suddenly posted a surplus. The stock market rose by over 8,000 points in the last few weeks. One billion dollars of hot money poured into the country but is a clear sign of confidence in the stabilisation of the economy. Is Naya Pakistan’s economy about to rise like a phoenix or is this a mirage?

Let’s talk about the current account deficit turning a surplus. Recall, defaulting on our external liabilities is the single biggest crisis the PTI government inherited. When the PML-N finished its term, the caretaker government rushed to China for a stopgap financing arrangement to avoid default. Businesses couldn’t open LCs because the country didn’t have enough dollars to make the imports it needed.

As a result, the PTI government had to administer chemotherapy to fight the cancer of twin deficits ripping our economy. The chemotherapy had painful side effects in the shape of inflation and devaluation. However, months later, the first positive signals are palpable. The cancer of deficit is crumbling under the treatment’s sustained pressure; the current account deficit is finally under control!

At the height of the crisis, I argued in this paper that the PTI government was doing the right thing by administering this economic chemotherapy. I was criticised by those who argued the economy was being run into the ground by PTI’s ‘incompetent’ economic managers. Today, a spectacular 8,000-point bull-run on the KSE demonstrates that smart money and investors think Pakistan is about to take off, not collapse. Hot money pouring in from foreign investors shows the economy has stabilised, even though I’m not comfortable with the volatility of hot money.

The reason this is great news is because reducing the current account deficit is the only way to break out of our debt cycle with the IMF. The reason every new government rushes to the IMF is because the net outflow of dollars from the country exceeds the net inflow. If we can keep our deficits to a minimum, it will transform the very nature of our economy and boom and bust cycles.

Moreover, positive signs show at least some reform is taking place to restructure the economy; 800,000 new tax filers and dramatic increases in tax collection are the most promising signs of an emerging fundamental paradigm shift. Pakistan’s biggest issue is that people will pay Zakat but not their taxes. This makes them politically disengaged and leaves the government unable to finance development, unless it borrows. If the government continues its fight to bring previously untouched sectors into the tax net we can finally enter sustainable growth cycles.

Even on growth which the opposition constantly criticises the government on, Pakistan is expected to beat its target by a significant margin. Journalists who don’t understand economics 101 have been screaming about a collapsing or shrinking economy. News flash: Pakistan’s economy didn’t shrink under the PTI. It just grew at a slower pace. And now that pace is picking up. There’s still a long way to go for Pakistan’s economy to perform at its peak but we are headed in the right direction.

Why the alarmist, doom and gloom narrative in the media then? The opposition finds a way to spin every good news on the economy negatively, often using incorrect facts. For example, the news of a current account surplus was countered by PML-N leaders with the idea that exports aren’t rising. A blatant lie, exports were up nearly 10% in the month we posted a current account surplus. Here’s the kicker: exports actually declined during the PML-N’s five-year tenure. And the biggest reason exports haven’t increased in Pakistan is because of the PML-N policy of keeping the rupee artificially over-valued to subsidise elite consumption.
 
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Why the alarmist, doom and gloom narrative in the media then? The opposition finds a way to spin every good news on the economy negatively, often using incorrect facts. For example, the news of a current account surplus was countered by PML-N leaders with the idea that exports aren’t rising. A blatant lie, exports were up nearly 10% in the month we posted a current account surplus. Here’s the kicker: exports actually declined during the PML-N’s five-year tenure. And the biggest reason exports haven’t increased in Pakistan is because of the PML-N policy of keeping the rupee artificially over-valued to subsidise elite consumption.
 
The doom gloom merchants of PP won't be seen here.



The wheel of the economy has started turning and that is why we see the lifafa journalists barking more and more, and flop shows like Azadi March. They know if the economy picks up pace nobody can stop IK's re-election.
 
There is a long way to go before sustainable economic growth can be attained but Kaptaan has started the ball rolling at great political cost. This is very positive news and if our businessman buy into trying to improve their products rather than spending their time avoiding taxes and profiteering, the economy should take off.
 
Mashallah great news.

Anyone know if it is possible to buy shares in the company that produces Burnol? Something tells me sales will be up in the coming decades.

:)))
 
A friend of mine is a property dealer in Karachi. He made a killing in commissions in 2017 but was very critical of the economic policies being followed by the PPP and PML N.

Under the PTI govt, things have been very tough and he has not been able to close the same number of deals as he was in the past because of the slow economy, the fact the govt is now strict on taxes, capital gains reporting, white money reporting requirements but the guy is like the govt is making all the right moves and these tough decisions are absolutely critical and necessary for Pakistan in the long run and he does not mind paying a short term price for the larger interests of the country in the long run.

This is the mindset that is needed from the nation of Pakistan unless the establishment mafia of PPP and PML N
 
Main critical factor that previously missing was, proper management and intention to help Pakistan.

What has PTI done different other than proper management, trying to curb corruption at the highest level, adequately utilizing of the loan they have received and kept Dollar at a value it suppose to be? Absolutely nothing, no new factory was built, no new industrial revolution in Pakistan and no new fortune 500 company open up in Pakistan.

Shows that how corrupt politician destroy a nation and there are countless examples of in many 3rd world countries.
 
Things are gradually improving. Call IK whatever you want but he is as honest as the day is long.
 
A friend of mine is a property dealer in Karachi. He made a killing in commissions in 2017 but was very critical of the economic policies being followed by the PPP and PML N.

Under the PTI govt, things have been very tough and he has not been able to close the same number of deals as he was in the past because of the slow economy, the fact the govt is now strict on taxes, capital gains reporting, white money reporting requirements but the guy is like the govt is making all the right moves and these tough decisions are absolutely critical and necessary for Pakistan in the long run and he does not mind paying a short term price for the larger interests of the country in the long run.

This is the mindset that is needed from the nation of Pakistan unless the establishment mafia of PPP and PML N

I have had similar feedback from a couple of well informed people but i know lot more people who voted for PTI but now very disheartened and believe Imran Khan knows nothing about economy and being honest isn't enough.
So average voter who doesn't know/care about deficits and subsidies is definitely not happy with Imran Khan because they are feeling the pinch of inflation and additional taxes/reduced subsidies.

Imran Khan the politician has definitely lost ground.
Imran Khan the leader has done exactly what was expected of him being honest and genuine person.

Let's see how Imran Khan the politicians regains lost ground in the last 2 years of his government.
 
The stock market rose by over 8,000 points in the last few weeks. One billion dollars of hot money poured into the country but is a clear sign of confidence in the stabilisation of the economy. Is Naya Pakistan’s economy about to rise like a phoenix or is this a mirage?

The Karachi Stock Market is very volatile. The KSE-100 hit a high of 52,874 back in May 2017. It was at a local maxima of 41,208 in Jan 2019 before falling to 29,332 in Aug 2019. It is true that the current level of 39,287 is about 10,000 points more than the previous low, however it is also true that this 10K points gain from Aug to Nov only follows a 12K points loss from Jan to Aug.

Accounting for the roughly 30% loss in value of the PKR wrt the USD, the KSE-100 is still down about 48% in dollar terms from May 2017 when Nawaz Sharif was still PM.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/index/kse_100

Why the alarmist, doom and gloom narrative in the media then?

No doubt the ability of Pakistan to meet its external liabilities has improved over the last year, but the value of the Pakistani firms listed on the KSE have taken a severe beating under IK's premiership.
 
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The Karachi Stock Market is very volatile. The KSE-100 hit a high of 52,874 back in May 2017. It was at a local maxima of 41,208 in Jan 2019 before falling to 29,332 in Aug 2019. It is true that the current level of 39,287 is about 10,000 points more than the previous low, however it is also true that this 10K points gain from Aug to Nov only follows a 12K points loss from Jan to Aug.

Accounting for the roughly 30% loss in value of the PKR wrt the USD, the KSE-100 is still down about 48% in dollar terms from May 2017 when Nawaz Sharif was still PM.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/index/kse_100



No doubt the ability of Pakistan to meet its external liabilities has improved over the last year, but the value of the Pakistani firms listed on the KSE have taken a severe beating under IK's premiership.

Stop trying to sound clever, we know. Look after the tanking Ind economy.
 
The Karachi Stock Market is very volatile. The KSE-100 hit a high of 52,874 back in May 2017. It was at a local maxima of 41,208 in Jan 2019 before falling to 29,332 in Aug 2019. It is true that the current level of 39,287 is about 10,000 points more than the previous low, however it is also true that this 10K points gain from Aug to Nov only follows a 12K points loss from Jan to Aug.

Accounting for the roughly 30% loss in value of the PKR wrt the USD, the KSE-100 is still down about 48% in dollar terms from May 2017 when Nawaz Sharif was still PM.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/index/kse_100

Can you tell me what it was when IK took over? And how it was trending?
 
You can find the answers if you google, or if you follow the link in my post.

So it was similar to what it is today (maybe 2k more) but was trending downward, and had been trending downward for a while. The last time it took off like it has down recently was in February/March 2016.
 
So it was similar to what it is today (maybe 2k more) but was trending downward, and had been trending downward for a while. The last time it took off like it has down recently was in February/March 2016.

If you are going to judge the performance of the economy and the PM by looking at the stock market (which is a fair thing to do), then you have to acknowledge that NS had a massive positive impact. From the May 2013 to the July 2018 elections KSE-100 went from about 20K to 40K, which is a healthy annual return of 15%. Markets are of course forward looking, so it is not possible to accurately measure the impact of different effects.
 
If you are going to judge the performance of the economy and the PM by looking at the stock market (which is a fair thing to do), then you have to acknowledge that NS had a massive positive impact. From the May 2013 to the July 2018 elections KSE-100 went from about 20K to 40K, which is a healthy annual return of 15%. Markets are of course forward looking, so it is not possible to accurately measure the impact of different effects.

But there are nuances to it. If it peaked at 52k during the same time and then went down 40k, it would suggest there was a bubble of sorts. More importantly, it was still trending down when IK took over. With PTI government, the fundamentals are much stronger. The stock market can grow organically and it at least doesn't appear to be a bubble that will easily burst (unless there's a global recession) like it did with NS.
 
But there are nuances to it. If it peaked at 52k during the same time and then went down 40k, it would suggest there was a bubble of sorts.

Like I said, the markets are forward looking and it is difficult to time the impact of events. While It may have fallen from the peak (which is of course why it is a peak), it is not possible to definitively say what led to the fall. If the markets realize that NS is going to lose the elections, and they believe that is a bad thing for the economy, they won't actually wait for NS to lose the elections but will react right away.

More importantly, it was still trending down when IK took over. With PTI government, the fundamentals are much stronger. The stock market can grow organically and it at least doesn't appear to be a bubble that will easily burst (unless there's a global recession) like it did with NS.

"fundamentals are much stronger" is yet to be proven. Time will tell, let's revisit this thread in 3 to 5 years :)
 
If you are going to judge the performance of the economy and the PM by looking at the stock market (which is a fair thing to do), then you have to acknowledge that NS had a massive positive impact. From the May 2013 to the July 2018 elections KSE-100 went from about 20K to 40K, which is a healthy annual return of 15%. Markets are of course forward looking, so it is not possible to accurately measure the impact of different effects.

NS govt had the advantage of low oil prices, cpec money boosting the reserves and let's not even start on the fake dollar price discussion. They kept dollar undervalued just to keep awaam and media happy while burning the reserves. A govt job is to make economy stable instead of playing for the gallery with short term gains.
 
The Karachi Stock Market is very volatile. The KSE-100 hit a high of 52,874 back in May 2017. It was at a local maxima of 41,208 in Jan 2019 before falling to 29,332 in Aug 2019. It is true that the current level of 39,287 is about 10,000 points more than the previous low, however it is also true that this 10K points gain from Aug to Nov only follows a 12K points loss from Jan to Aug.

Accounting for the roughly 30% loss in value of the PKR wrt the USD, the KSE-100 is still down about 48% in dollar terms from May 2017 when Nawaz Sharif was still PM.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/index/kse_100



No doubt the ability of Pakistan to meet its external liabilities has improved over the last year, but the value of the Pakistani firms listed on the KSE have taken a severe beating under IK's premiership.

The article is about finally getting the positive signals from economy and not some chest thumping about how we are going to be the next asian tiger after one week. We know where our country stands right now and where it was 2 years ago and 1 year ago.
 
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