POTW: Big Mac

[Abdullah719]

An interesting review of Yasir Shah's variations (or rather lack of) and how he sets up batsmen.

Congratulations [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION].

I think he's great but I feel like he's bowling more bad balls over the last year or so than I remember him bowling when he first started. I don't know how much of that is injury related because he's had a few problems with his back and missed some games because of it.

I understand the obsession with the googly, this is the land of Qadir, Mushy, Kaneria. A 30+ year legacy of bowlers carrying the googly one after the other like the passing of a torch in an ancient Greek relay race. PPers are obsessed with plan B, C, D and E and want bowlers with lots of variations and the ability to bowl six balls in an over and confuse the batsman but that's not how top class bowling works.

Kaneria had a fantastic googly, one of the best ever and he took some absolutely gorgeous wickets with it. What people gloss over is that Kaneria got slated constantly for being impatient and overusing his googly instead of sticking to the plan. Yasir's googly isn't as effective as any of those guys and it's for a good reason. It's because his stock leg-break is much better, spun harder and at a consistently greater pace than any of those guys.

If you have a brilliant leg-break, like Yasir does, then that will be the ball that you bowl MINIMUM 90% of the time. Everything you do branches off that stock-ball that you can bowl with your eyes closed. The vast majority of the time, you only need to make subtle changes in pace and the amount of spin you put on it to create enough variation to keep a batsman on his toes while you put the plan to work. Many times, the natural variation in the pitch will do it for you as evidenced by this famous Shane Warne delivery to Ian Bell in the 2005 Ashes.

Bell picked the leg-break correctly and left it as he had done many times before only this one for some mysterious reason, whether it hit a harder part of the pitch or landed on a smoother part of the ball, went straight on instead of fizzing past the stumps and another chapter was added to the legend of Shane Warne's fictional mystery deliveries.

Fast forward to 2015 and England's visit to the UAE. It's the second test in Dubai, you all remember the one. Adil Rashid falling with 6 overs left in the final day to seal a win that everyone had written off as a draw. The most nerve-biting finish anyone could remember until what happened yesterday in Dominica. Of course you all remember.

Do you remember Bairstow's wicket? Playing all around a Yasir Shah googly like a tailender? Maybe you do, maybe you don't.

Bairstow is growing in confidence here

First half hour up and pakistan looking flat here.

He's the only one creating chances, Yasir is looking toothless.

32 runs partnership , Pitch is not a mine field , England would be looking at a draw.

Im out guys...

Cmon this is boring.

Babar is out bowling Yasir

Yasir troubling stokes but Bairstow finding it easy against him.

All that wrist-slitting and it wasn't even lunch time. Why? Because Bairstow was playing Yasir really well, leaving leg-break after leg-break, even ones that pitched on the stumps because he was confident that they were going to turn away. So PP did what PP does and went into full-blown panic mode bemoaning the lack of variations and the rest of it. So what did bowler and captain do? Carry on with the toothless bowling. Let Bairstow block and leave with confidence, it doesn't matter. Then the next part of the plan, go round the wicket for two overs which lead to the obvious complaints:

Stop bowling around... That's such a negative line.

This is too easy. Whats with the negative tactic of bowling around the wicket

Only stayed around the wicket for two overs to Bairstow but that was enough to get his eyes and feet used to facing leg-breaks (He hadn't bowled a single googly all morning) coming from around the wicket.

What is happening out there? I'll let Misbah explain it:

"What was happening, actually, the legbreak that was coming on middle he was playing pretty easily. The one outside off, he had clearly made a plan that he was going to stretch out far forward and then leave it. He was leaving it well.

Then back over the wicket after just two overs from around the stumps, is this brainless captaincy? Bowler can't make his mind up whether he should be over or around, omg there are 70 overs left in the day but we're not going to win, I'm turning off the TV what the hell this is awful.

But you guys need to chill, it's all part of the plan.

"As a batsman when I am doing this, if suddenly from the same line from where I am leaving I get a googly, even if I know it is a googly, the chances of my making a mistake are high. Even if you recognise it, because the intention from that line is to not play it - mentally you have planned you are going to leave it. Suddenly from there when it is a googly, you decide to try and play, you can still miss it. I said to Yasir, 'Bowl him two to three googlies in a row so that the intention he has to leave the legbreak from that line [is affected].'"

What was the result?

Even though the batsman wasn't looking for it, because Yasir bowls the googly so rarely, Bairstow picked it easily and played to clip it through midwicket with the spin but was bowled all ends up.

Why? Because he had been set up by facing leg-break, after leg-break, after leg-break, after leg-break, after leg-break, after leg-break, after leg-break, after leg-break, after leg-break. Over the wicket? Leg-break. Around the wicket? Leg-break. When Bairstow went to bed that night all he could dream of was leg-breaks. They broke Bairstow out of his comfort zone, which can only be done if you first let him get comfortable. Yasir Shah bowled 249 deliveries in that innings, only 5 (2%) of them were googlies. He took 4/87 and we won the match in the last 7 overs.

If there is anything we should have learned in the last 24 hours, it's that you have five days to take 20 wickets and there's nothing wrong with using every last minute.

Yasir bowled 222 balls in that innings, 12 (5%) were googlies. He took 5/92 and we won with one over to spare.

Plan B is useless if you don't have faith in Plan A.

That goes for all bowlers, slow or fast. If you're a young seamer, there's a reason you don't practice bouncers and then yorkers and out swing and inswing and slower ball bouncers. Sure you have Plan B, C, D, E, F etc. but congratulations now you're Jade Dernbach and nobody will remember you for anything other than looking like a total idiot with your stupid armsleeve tattoos.


Two things to add:

1) The 5th day of that Dubai test led to the first wrist-slitters thread: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rist-slitters-naysayers-pessimists&highlight=

2) We're never going to see Yasir take a wicket and run straight over to Misbah ever again [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Congratulations.

Well deserved.

 

[Big Mac]

The real POTW was robbed

You know which one it is

 

[MenInG]

The real POTW was robbed

You know which one it is

haha - we believe in mercy

 

[super hitter]

cool post!

 

[Fahdi]

Very Well written. Congratulations!

 

[Monsee]

The real POTW was robbed

You know which one it is

Or the one you have not even made yet (re: my two posts in that thread)

You have a lot of material to work with now

Congrats anyway

 

[srh]

The real POTW was robbed

You know which one it is

when I saw your name at POTW the first idea came to my mind was about your post of [MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] as a Wolverine having a serious crush on Umar Akmal that post is legendary

 

[idrizzy]

Great post. Deserves more credit since he posted most of the highlights throughout the test matches in the form of gifs, and for that I thank you sir . Honourable mention for that last gif of Yasir sprinting away with victory. What a legend

 

[Big Mac]

Or the one you have not even made yet (re: my two posts in that thread)

You have a lot of material to work with now

Congrats anyway

Don't worry, I have my final exam on Friday and once that is out of the way my entire summer will consist of nothing but cricket nets and snatching the souls of all haters.

As a side note, I think you were the guy who got me to sign up on here? We definitely ran into each other somewhere else, maybe the old BBC cricket boards, and you ended up emailing me a bunch of cricket clips which I then uploaded to a website a friend had lent me.

Aaaah the good old days before youtube, facebook, twitter etc.

 

[Haz95]

Don't worry, I have my final exam on Friday and once that is out of the way my entire summer will consist of nothing but cricket nets and snatching the souls of all haters.

As a side note, I think you were the guy who got me to sign up on here? We definitely ran into each other somewhere else, maybe the old BBC cricket boards, and you ended up emailing me a bunch of cricket clips which I then uploaded to a website a friend had lent me.

Aaaah the good old days before youtube, facebook, twitter etc.

exams? I thought you were like 40 odd. Interesting, never too old for education.

Top post btw. People who are expecting a ripper and/or a wicket every delivery in test cricket simply don't understand cricket...there's a reason there is 5 days in test cricket.

 

[pakistani pride]

Congrats. I had my share as well since i asked the question hahaha.

 

[Big Mac]

exams? I thought you were like 40 odd. Interesting, never too old for education.

Top post btw. People who are expecting a ripper and/or a wicket every delivery in test cricket simply don't understand cricket...there's a reason there is 5 days in test cricket.

Not quite that old thank you very much.

My job was boring so I quit and started a law degree, now that I get a student discount I am a youngsta beauty again

 

[Junaids]

Lovely post!

I don't have an issue with the lack of googlies, just the line, which I find too much towards leg-stump.

And I'm delighted at how hard Mickey Arthur has got him to work on his batting!

 

[JibranAnsari]

Well written , even though i dont agree with most of it but still points for effort.

 

[Big Mac]

[MENTION=81]Monsee[/MENTION]

I had a look and my memory was correct, managed to dig up emails from way back in 2004

Salaam!

[REDACTED], I downloaded SmartFTP an dtried to login at [REDACTED].com with [REDACTED] as username and [REDACTED] as the password but I got the following message

SmartFTP v1.0.983.13
Resolving host name crikeet.p0k.com...
Connecting to ([REDACTED]) -> IP: [REDACTED] PORT: 1
Connected to ([REDACTED]) -> Time = 63ms
Socket connected waiting for login sequence.
Cannot login waiting to retry (30s)...
Since I am new to the concept of FTP servers and all, I have no clue hopw to proceed
Any idea what is the problem here???
Allah Hafiz

The message you're getting right now means you're connected I think. To upload the files just right-click anywhere in the big window on the right that is the crikeet folder then select upload > direct > select files... and a window will pop-up where you can select a file to upload.

If that doesn't work then I have added you to my MSN contacts list, we can try and figure out a solution through MSN messenger sometime. I apologise in advance just in case I don't reply, if that is the case then I am either playing Halo 2 or I'll be watching the Pakistan-India game on Saturday!

Allah Hafiz

Having to mess about with FTP servers because there was no youtube, Halo 2, MSN Messenger! Man, remember the days before the internet became a complete cesspool?

Time flies

This was the Pakistan match I referred to

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/66384.html

I remember it was Eid that day and because everyone usually comes to our house for Eid the house was absolutely packed full of people trying to get a decent view of the match on TV

 

[Monsee]

[MENTION=81]Monsee[/MENTION]

I had a look and my memory was correct, managed to dig up emails from way back in 2004





Having to mess about with FTP servers because there was no youtube, Halo 2, MSN Messenger! Man, remember the days before the internet became a complete cesspool?

Time flies

This was the Pakistan match I referred to

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/66384.html

I remember it was Eid that day and because everyone usually comes to our house for Eid the house was absolutely packed full of people trying to get a decent view of the match on TV

Wow, just wow LOL

What was your username back then?

Good times

 

[Saj]

Great post
Great poster

Well deserved.

 

[shaz619]

Congrats [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION] thank the bear for putting that post over as well well deserved, even Big Macs analytical posts have gifs in them

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=81]Monsee[/MENTION]

I had a look and my memory was correct, managed to dig up emails from way back in 2004





Having to mess about with FTP servers because there was no youtube, Halo 2, MSN Messenger! Man, remember the days before the internet became a complete cesspool?

Time flies

This was the Pakistan match I referred to

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/66384.html

I remember it was Eid that day and because everyone usually comes to our house for Eid the house was absolutely packed full of people trying to get a decent view of the match on TV

You shouldn't have posted that scorecard, now [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] will never leave us alone

 

[shaz619]

Not quite that old thank you very much.

My job was boring so I quit and started a law degree, now that I get a student discount I am a youngsta beauty again

) What a legend

The only negative is the amount you have to pay or can student finance help you? You must go to a uni in Brum as well, otherwise you'd not be able to make all those net sessions; don't bother, all the practice is not enough for my leg spin

 

[Big Mac]

You shouldn't have posted that scorecard, now [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] will never leave us alone

I'm waiting for Junaids to start stanning for Misbah to be in the Champions Trophy squad as he is the non-Asia GOAT

 

[Big Mac]

) What a legend

The only negative is the amount you have to pay or can student finance help you? You must go to a uni in Brum as well, otherwise you'd not be able to make all those net sessions; don't bother, all the practice is not enough for my leg spin

Yeah, no student loans Don't go to uni in Brum so I have rent on top of that



Have a car so I can come down to the nets whenever I want, I'll even bat left-handed because we both know that your leg-spin is on the same level as Cricketanalyst's cricket analysis.

 

[shaz619]

Yeah, no student loans Don't go to uni in Brum so I have rent on top of that



Have a car so I can come down to the nets whenever I want, I'll even bat left-handed because we both know that your leg-spin is on the same level as Cricketanalyst's cricket analysis.

Don't lir, Big Mac wears a rey mysterio mask when facing my bowling so no one can see him given the humiliation me leggies cause him i bowl 500 full tosses to set him up for a googly he tends to jump out the way when it comes

The feelings mutual but hopefully it's worth it in the end, how do you make it work with all the responsibilities? I hear you have 15 bache

 

[big_gamer007]

Was expecting the GIF where he owned some poster �� Regardless very nice post

 

[Big Mac]

Don't lir, Big Mac wears a rey mysterio mask when facing my bowling so no one can see him given the humiliation me leggies cause him i bowl 500 full tosses to set him up for a googly he tends to jump out the way when it comes

Yeah, jump out of shock that you finally managed to land one on the pitch and not into the side netting.

The feelings mutual but hopefully it's worth it in the end, how do you make it work with all the responsibilities? I hear you have 15 bache

First thing they teach you when studying Law. DENY EVERYTHING.

I may have plenty of bache but I simply say "Nah, I don't think so. I can't possibly be the father of this 6-month old baby, she can't even play a reverse sweep." and it's worked out well so far.

 

[Slog]

Congrats

The real POTW was robbed

You know which one it is

Do point to which one. I thought the thread asking about whether Shehzzy was playing the greatest Test knock of all time was worth a shot

 

[Big Mac]

Congrats



Do point to which one. I thought the thread asking about whether Shehzzy was playing the greatest Test knock of all time was worth a shot

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...looking-content-at-drawing-the-series-decider

POTW is #15 by ocfan

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Congratulations [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION]


Excellent Post Overall. Well deserved.


Couple of things.


1. Wasn't that a flipper from the side of the hand which Bell missed ? I have myself bowled flipper and zooter.

I know post shoulder injury Warne rarely bowled a flipper but this one was a flipper - speed ie both a slider and a flipper do not deviate either side after pitching but flipper gains speed but pitching while slidder has normal speed.


2. When Yasir Shah had bad time in Australia Me and many experts believed that his conventional delivery ie Leg Spin doesn't turn sharply hence on pitches which do not turn much he will struggle so he needs to work on his release as well as action since he completes his action much better from Around the wicket as compared to over the wicket.

McGrath & McGrill thrived on wickets which weren't friendly for spinners because they still managed to get decent turn while Yasir does not get considerable turn on dead wickets.

But you are saying this :

" If you have a brilliant leg-break, like Yasir does, then that will be the ball that you bowl MINIMUM 90% of the time. Everything you do branches off that stock-ball that you can bowl with your eyes closed. "

 

[Slog]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...looking-content-at-drawing-the-series-decider

POTW is #15 by ocfan

Haha

What a post. I don't even bother giving much attention to the particular poster but the downside is you tend to miss posts like that

 

[Big Mac]

Congratulations [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION]


Excellent Post Overall. Well deserved.


Couple of things.


1. Wasn't that a flipper from the side of the hand which Bell missed ? I have myself bowled flipper and zooter.

I know post shoulder injury Warne rarely bowled a flipper but this one was a flipper - speed ie both a slider and a flipper do not deviate either side after pitching but flipper gains speed but pitching while slidder has normal speed.


2. When Yasir Shah had bad time in Australia Me and many experts believed that his conventional delivery ie Leg Spin doesn't turn sharply hence on pitches which do not turn much he will struggle so he needs to work on his release as well as action since he completes his action much better from Around the wicket as compared to over the wicket.

McGrath & McGrill thrived on wickets which weren't friendly for spinners because they still managed to get decent turn while Yasir does not get considerable turn on dead wickets.

But you are saying this :

" If you have a brilliant leg-break, like Yasir does, then that will be the ball that you bowl MINIMUM 90% of the time. Everything you do branches off that stock-ball that you can bowl with your eyes closed. "

Nah, it's 100% a leg-break. You can tell because of the trajectory when it leaves his hand, it loops up. A flipper is released from underneath with a bit of backspin and it can never go "up" out of the hand.

You can see the difference in how a leg-break and a flipper leave the hand here:

Here you can see the difference between the leg-break that got Bell LBW and a slider he bowled to Flintoff

See how the leg-break goes up out of his hand and the slider, because it's pushed out of the front of his hand, doesn't have that loop?

If you're not sure if a ball was a flipper or not then don't look at the bowler's hands or what the ball did off the pitch, the trajectory alone should give it away.

 

[Big Mac]

Correction: Leg-break and slider in the above gif were both bowled to Flintoff.

You can see what I mean about the trajectory giving it away here:

Leg-break loops up, slider is pushed forward.

 

[Bilal7]

Brilliant. One of the best posters here.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Nah, it's 100% a leg-break. You can tell because of the trajectory when it leaves his hand, it loops up. A flipper is released from underneath with a bit of backspin and it can never go "up" out of the hand.

You can see the difference in how a leg-break and a flipper leave the hand here:

Here you can see the difference between the leg-break that got Bell LBW and a slider he bowled to Flintoff

See how the leg-break goes up out of his hand and the slider, because it's pushed out of the front of his hand, doesn't have that loop?

If you're not sure if a ball was a flipper or not then don't look at the bowler's hands or what the ball did off the pitch, the trajectory alone should give it away.

Bro that is a " Zooter "

 

[msb314]

Congrats buddy!

Love you GIF's!

 

[Big Mac]

Bro that is a " Zooter "

Which one? The top gif? Because that's a flipper.

If you mean the one on the right hand side of the second gif then arey yaar, slider, zooter, it's all the same bloody thing.

There are some people who say the zooter is bowled with the back of your hand facing away from you but that's a stupid variation that nobody should bother trying because not only does it impart less backspin than a flipper but even Stevie Wonder could pick it in his sleep. Only someone like [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] would be foolish enough to bother practising it.

Shane Warne was the undisputed king of BS, he claimed to have a new magic delivery before every Ashes series and it's that BS which meant everybody called him a genius when he accidentally bowled a leg-break that didn't spin.

It's like Saqlain banging on and on about developing a teesra or a jalebi and then you see him bowl it and it's just a flipper/backspinner that people have been bowling for a century

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Which one? The top gif? Because that's a flipper.

If you mean the one on the right hand side of the second gif then arey yaar, slider, zooter, it's all the same bloody thing.

There are some people who say the zooter is bowled with the back of your hand facing away from you but that's a stupid variation that nobody should bother trying because not only does it impart less backspin than a flipper but even Stevie Wonder could pick it in his sleep. Only someone like [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] would be foolish enough to bother practising it.

Shane Warne was the undisputed king of BS, he claimed to have a new magic delivery before every Ashes series and it's that BS which meant everybody called him a genius when he accidentally bowled a leg-break that didn't spin.

It's like Saqlain banging on and on about developing a teesra or a jalebi and then you see him bowl it and it's just a flipper/backspinner that people have been bowling for a century

Yes the top gif of Warne. Where the batsman got LBW.

Sorry i mugged it. Yeah Slider = Zooter. But you said that was a leggie which hit a certain part of the wicket and did not turn. I don’t think it was a leggie going by Warne's hand and revs plus the pitch also doesn't have such demons apparently.


Wasn't it a new thing for Off-Spinners to bowl a Carron bowl/Jalebi ?


Ajmal bowled it once or twice only and than it is Ashwin only who masters it. Actually it leaves the RHB so wrt Saqlain he used to bowl two type of deliveries which left RHB ie Doosra & Teesra as we saw in ICL.

 

[Big Mac]

Yes the top gif of Warne. Where the batsman got LBW.

Sorry i mugged it. Yeah Slider = Zooter. But you said that was a leggie which hit a certain part of the wicket and did not turn. I don’t think it was a leggie going by Warne's hand and revs plus the pitch also doesn't have such demons apparently.


Wasn't it a new thing for Off-Spinners to bowl a Carron bowl/Jalebi ?


Ajmal bowled it once or twice only and than it is Ashwin only who masters it. Actually it leaves the RHB so wrt Saqlain he used to bowl two type of deliveries which left RHB ie Doosra & Teesra as we saw in ICL.

Oh right, the one to Bell where he pads up to a straight one was 100% leg-break. Warne more or less admitted it in a post-match interview here:

It should autoplay from the right moment, if not then skip to around 8:20 mark.

"Was it meant to turn more or was it just the subtle variation?"

"What answer would you like?"

"You tell me what came out of your hand"

"You think I'd say it's a leg-spinner that didn't turn? It's the new slider!" *laughs*

He knows it's a leg-break, Slater knows it's a leg-break, the whole world knows it was a leg-break but Warne knows it's funnier to keep pretending it's another mystery delivery.

As for Saqlain's Teesra/Jalebi, it's basically a flipper.

Nothing new about it. Off-spinners have been bowling back-spinners since spin bowling was invented, Saqlain just did with a leg-spinners grip and pretended it was something new.

As for the carrom ball and the slew of recent mystery spinners like Ajantha Mendis, guess what? Jack Iverson was doing it 70 years ago.

Half of spin bowling is bowling the same ball five times in a row and acting like you've bowled something different every time, it's all smoke and mirrors. We can't physically intimidate batsmen with 95mph bowling so we just confuse them with a whole load of BS because batsmen aren't very bright and they start to imagine things that aren't there. It's why Warne stops just short of admitting what everybody knows, if just one English batsmen thinks for even one second that maybe it wasn't a leg-break then that's a little seed of doubt that's been planted for the next test.

Because here's what batsmen are too thick to realise, the ball will either turn right, turn left, or go straight. It's actually really easy but that's why we pretend to invent teesras and jalebis, carrom balls and disco balls, zooter and kabootur and everything else.

I would say "don't tell any batsmen this" but it's OK because they can't read that much without the aid of brightly coloured pictures anyway. They probably saw the photo of Jack Iverson's grip and thought it's a monster in the next Marvel movie.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Yasir does not have a better leg-spinner than Qadir or Kaneria. He hardly turns the ball on hard surfaces.

 

[Savak]

Yasir still needs to develop a flipper and a googly, that straight one, he has all the other tools, what is wrong in working hard to become an even more complete bowler.

 

[Big Mac]

Yasir still needs to develop a flipper and a googly, that straight one, he has all the other tools, what is wrong in working hard to become an even more complete bowler.

He has a googly, there is footage of him bowling one right there at the top of the page. He doesn't bowl it much and for a very good reason.

 

[Savak]

He has a googly, there is footage of him bowling one right there at the top of the page. He doesn't bowl it much and for a very good reason.

Bowling it to Gabrielle would have been a good reason no? Bowling it at-least once in perhaps 6-7 overs is not too much of an ask especially when there is a partnership in progress and the batsmen are getting comfortable with his straight stuff or his leg spinner pitched on off and turning away. Most importantly he needs to develop that flipper.

 

[Big Mac]

Bowling it to Gabrielle would have been a good reason no? Bowling it at-least once in perhaps 6-7 overs is not too much of an ask especially when there is a partnership in progress and the batsmen are getting comfortable with his straight stuff or his leg spinner pitched on off and turning away. Most importantly he needs to develop that flipper.

But his last ball to Gabriel was a leg-break and we won no?

 

[Savak]

But his last ball to Gabriel was a leg-break and we won no?

So you feel he should never bowl a googly or a flipper ever again?

 

[DRsohail]

brilliant posters and richly deserved it though i still feel yasir should have tried googly to shanon ......

 

[Big Mac]

So you feel he should never bowl a googly or a flipper ever again?

Yes, that must be exactly what I'm saying.

Read this, then the post at the top of this page.

The way he bowls his legbreak, a googly won't be much use against test batsmen because it will be easier to pick than a leggie like Mushy whose stock ball had a lot of top-spin rather than hard side spin and drift so the googly still looked somewhat similar to his stock ball. It's why Warne almost never bowled a googly, it was SO different from his normal leg-break that you could pick it from the stands.

The slider out of the front of the hand will be far more effective than any googly for Yasir.

If it doesn't make sense for you after that then whatever, keep banging on about googlies and Umar Akmal's talent.

 

[Stallion__]

Yes the top gif of Warne. Where the batsman got LBW.

Sorry i mugged it. Yeah Slider = Zooter. But you said that was a leggie which hit a certain part of the wicket and did not turn. I don’t think it was a leggie going by Warne's hand and revs plus the pitch also doesn't have such demons apparently.

Release, revolutions, trajectory everything indicate that it was a leggie. Slider don't gets drift like that.

 

[Stallion__]

Btw congratz Big Mac.

Joy to read your posts. Hope you have developed your chinaman as good as them

 

[Big Mac]

Btw congratz Big Mac.

Joy to read your posts. Hope you have developed your chinaman as good as them

Haven't played or netted in a few weeks because of exams I ended up having to bowl in my last game even though my spinning finger is busted, but the opposition were 200/0 after 20 overs so I thought what's the worst that can happen?

Bowled off-breaks because of my busted finger and it turned out the worst that could happen, happened and long-hop after long-hop went for 34 runs in 2 overs )

Skipper gave me a third over for some reason and I decided the phainty I was receiving was hurting my pride more than my finger would so I switched to leg-spin and the next 9 overs went for 49 runs which wasn't bad considering I was bowling at the death to two batsmen with hundreds to their name. Had a couple of catches dropped as well

Then I opened the batting and got bowled for 5 after tonking a drive one bounce over cover.


From this weekend I shall resume my quest to try and bowl left-handed in earnest Still undecided on whether I can be bothered to learn to bat.

 

[Rayyman]

An interesting review of Yasir Shah's variations (or rather lack of) and how he sets up batsmen.

Congratulations [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION].

Not a terrible post at all...

 

[Square Drive]

Damn, what an informative post. Definitely deserved POTW. Well done [MENTION=865]Big Mac[/MENTION] and congrats.

Gem of a poster. Love those GIFs!