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PPCL is strategic team game. The software we use is "Cricket Heroes" which was developed by Kurt.

At present PPCL organizers include. [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] , [MENTION=40952]Batman[/MENTION] , [MENTION=135989]world cup captain[/MENTION] , [MENTION=147674]The Viper[/MENTION] and [MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION].

Tournament
PPCL will have 3 types of matches
1. Tests
2. ODI
3. T20

Team structure
Every team will have Captain and Vice Captain. They will be the in-charge of the team. Their duties will include TeamLineup , Penalty , Toss , Pitch Type selection etc.
Before the start of the tournament they will assign contracts to players which will have great effect on players performance.
Every squad will have 15 players (including International players).

Rules
While banter is encouraged , players are requested to adhere to PP rules (no bad language) or they will risk get banned.


Penalty
This season will using Penalty instead of boosts.
Penalty would work as a temporary skill downgrade.

Each team will be given 600 penalty points till mid season.
Penalty points reduces batting/bowling skill for the match.
Penalty points will be combined for all 3 formats.

Rules regarding Penalty Points -
1. A team is allowed maximum penalty of 60 points in a match.
2. A Bowler cannot be penalized for Batting skills.
Note - Any player in a team can be penalize even including International player.
3. Penalty points can't be carried over after mid season.
4. In mid season each team will be again given 600 penalty points.
5. These penalty points won't be carried over to knockout matches.
6. For knockout matches each team will be given 40 mendatory penalty points per match.
7. Penalty Points can only be 10 , 20 , 30 , 40 , 50 or 60 points.
8. No player can have Bat-Skill lower than 20 after Penalty Points
9. No Bowler/AR can have Bowl-Skill less than 40 after Penalty Points
10. It is mandatory that team use up all the Penalty points. Failing that team will lose points on final table for all 3 formats.


Each team will play 15 matches before Mid Season break (5 Tests , 5 ODI and 5 T20)

During Mid Season break
Captains will be allowed to
1. Exchange 3 International player from left over pool.
2. 4 Contract swap
3. 5 Player Role changes

Finals
Finals will take place in BatWorld Stadium (neutral pitch , with average swing , seam and spin)
Higher ranked team ( in points table) will call the toss.
Trivia - Batworld stadium is tribute to our organizers Batman and World Cup Captain


Contracts
Each team will have 3 Gold contract (95 skill)5 Silver contract (85 skill) at the start of season.
Rest will have Regular contract (75 skills) and International contract (75 skill).

Contract Types
There are 6 contracts in all.
Gold , Silver , Regular and International , Double Gold and Double Silver
Note - Double Contracts costs twice and can only be given to AR

[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Contract [/td][td]Role [/td][td]Bat Skill [/td][td]Bowl Skill [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gold [/td][td]Batsman [/td][td]95 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gold [/td][td]Bowler [/td][td]40 [/td][td]95 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gold [/td][td]Bat AR [/td][td]85 [/td][td]75 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gold [/td][td]Pure AR [/td][td]80 [/td][td]80 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Gold [/td][td]Bowl AR [/td][td]75 [/td][td]85 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Contract [/td][td]Role [/td][td]Bat Skill [/td][td]Bowl Skill [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Silver [/td][td]Batsman [/td][td]85 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Silver [/td][td]Bowler [/td][td]30 [/td][td]85 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Silver [/td][td]Bat AR [/td][td]75 [/td][td]65 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Silver [/td][td]Pure AR [/td][td]70 [/td][td]70 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Silver [/td][td]Bowl AR [/td][td]65 [/td][td]75 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Contract [/td][td]Role [/td][td]Bat Skill [/td][td]Bowl Skill [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Regular [/td][td]Batsman [/td][td]75 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Regular [/td][td]Bowler [/td][td]0 [/td][td]75 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Regular [/td][td]Bat AR [/td][td]65 [/td][td]55 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Regular [/td][td]Pure AR [/td][td]60 [/td][td]60 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Regular [/td][td]Bowl AR [/td][td]55 [/td][td]65 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Contract [/td][td]Role [/td][td]Bat Skill [/td][td]Bowl Skill [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]International [/td][td]Batsman [/td][td]75 [/td][td]0 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]International [/td][td]Bowler [/td][td]0 [/td][td]75 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]International [/td][td]Bat AR [/td][td]65 [/td][td]55 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]International [/td][td]Pure AR [/td][td]60 [/td][td]60 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]International [/td][td]Bowl AR [/td][td]55 [/td][td]65 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Contract [/td][td]Role [/td][td]Bat Skill [/td][td]Bowl Skill [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DoubleGold [/td][td]Bat AR [/td][td]95 [/td][td]95 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DoubleGold [/td][td]Pure AR [/td][td]95 [/td][td]95 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DoubleGold [/td][td]Bowl AR [/td][td]95 [/td][td]95 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Contract [/td][td]Role [/td][td]Bat Skill [/td][td]Bowl Skill [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DoubleSilver [/td][td]Bat AR [/td][td]85 [/td][td]85 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DoubleSilver [/td][td]Pure AR [/td][td]85 [/td][td]85 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]DoubleSilver [/td][td]Bowl AR [/td][td]85 [/td][td]85 [/td][/tr]
[/table]

International player will be same as last season.
There are 284 International Players to choose from
53 AR , 115 Batsman , 88 Bowlers and 28 Wicketkeepers

Note - International Players can be given Gold or Silver contract

Stadium and Pitch Type
Each captain will provide a acceptable name his home stadium.
Each captain will provide the range of Bounce , Seam , Swing and Spin for the stadium. Value can be 0.8 , 0.9 , 1.0 , 1.1 , 1.2
Also Deterioration with value ( 0.05 , 0.10 , 0.20 , 0.30 or 0.4)

Batking Stadium Values (For Finals)
[table=width: 500, class: grid, align: center]
[tr][td]Name [/td][td]Batking Stadium [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Bounce [/td][td]1.1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Swing [/td][td]1.1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Seam [/td][td]1.1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Spin [/td][td]1.1 [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Deterioration [/td][td]0.1 [/td][/tr]
[/table]
 
For example Intial starting XI

Batman 1 95 0 (Gold)
WK - 85 0 (Silver)
Batman 2 75 0 (Regular)
Batman 3 85 0 (Silver)
Batsman 4 95 0 (Gold)
Batsman 5 75 0 (Regular)
Bowler 1 40 95 (Gold)
Bowler 2 30 85 (Silver)
Bowler 3 20 75 (Regular)
Bowler 4 30 85 (Silver)
Bowler 5 30 85 (Silver)
This team has 3 95 player , 5 85 player , 3 75 player.

If a team decide to use 40 penalty points then they have to post like

Batman 1
WK
Batman 2 (-20 bat)
Batman 3
Batsman 4
Batsman 5
Bowler 1 (-20 ball)
Bowler 2
Bowler 3
Bowler 4
Bowler 5

Limitation regarding penalty - bowler cannot be penalize on batting skills - For example Bowler 1 (-20 bat) is invalid
 
Penalty points is a great addition!

Take note [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]. :)

Btw I have a question: double Gold/Silver contract will count for two Gold/Silver contracts? [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION]
 
Penalty points is a great addition!

Take note [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]. :)

Btw I have a question: double Gold/Silver contract will count for two Gold/Silver contracts? [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION]

Playing XI can have max 3 with 95 skills and 5 with 85 skills. its upto captains for deciding the distribution of 95 skills among players. Can be 95/95 AR + 95 batsman. or can be 3 bats with 95 skills. Same for 85 skills :))

Penalty Points :facepalm: seniority culture
 
Playing XI can have max 3 with 95 skills and 5 with 85 skills. its upto captains for deciding the distribution of 95 skills among players. Can be 95/95 AR + 95 batsman. or can be 3 bats with 95 skills. Same for 85 skills :))

Penalty Points :facepalm: seniority culture

95/95 AR will consume 2 Gold Contracts. 85/85 AR will consume 2 Silver Contracts. If a team wish it could have 1 Double Gold Contract , 1 Gold , 2 Double Silver Contract and 1 Silver Contract and rest Regular Contract at the start.
 
Penalty points is a great addition!

Take note [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION]. :)

Btw I have a question: double Gold/Silver contract will count for two Gold/Silver contracts? [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION]

Head is spinning :))) dubara parhnay do
 
It’s innovative will give you that but it’s quite complicated not sure people will have time for all this :))
 
Are these Gold, Silver, Double Gold and Double Silver contracts permanent or can be changed every game? [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION]
 
Penalty points is quite the hassle tbh. Innovative yes, but another thing you have to ponder over and creates multiple scenarios. One question I have is that is there a quota of penalties to be used for each format/match?
 
To be honest in a fun league I don’t like the idea of tagging a poster and telling them they are being penalized because they are inactive. It won’t boost interest and will make the league rather restricted
 
To be honest in a fun league I don’t like the idea of tagging a poster and telling them they are being penalized because they are inactive. It won’t boost interest and will make the league rather restricted

Yes I concur. I don't mind it much because I am going to end up with a largely inactive team again.

But really I would have preferred it old school, like the old contract system (AA, A, B, C), International players with different skill sets and limit on the number of games they can play, FC/LOI specialists etc.

I would request [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] to reconsider this.
 
Are these Gold, Silver, Double Gold and Double Silver contracts permanent or can be changed every game? [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION]

They are permanent.
 
Penalty points is quite the hassle tbh. Innovative yes, but another thing you have to ponder over and creates multiple scenarios. One question I have is that is there a quota of penalties to be used for each format/match?

You can go with 0 penalty points in a match. But you have to finish all of them before mid season.
 
To be honest in a fun league I don’t like the idea of tagging a poster and telling them they are being penalized because they are inactive. It won’t boost interest and will make the league rather restricted

You can always penalize international players , i am sure they won't mind.
 
Yes I concur. I don't mind it much because I am going to end up with a largely inactive team again.

But really I would have preferred it old school, like the old contract system (AA, A, B, C), International players with different skill sets and limit on the number of games they can play, FC/LOI specialists etc.

I would request [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] to reconsider this.

Old school system can be considered for season 3. If you think any values regarding number of gold , silver contract or number of penalty points needs to changed then i am willing to consider them.
 
Bro [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] what’s the point of keeping the penalties system if most of captains aren’t happy with it? :))
 
Btw [MENTION=40952]Batman[/MENTION] and [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] will there be a trade window after the draft and before the team submission before season starts?
 
Penalty point will cause more flat pitches.. As you rarely need 5, 6, 7 batsman on phattas so we can always punish them on LOs, we can go full strength on FCs, so there will be tougher competitions in FC tournament..
 
BTW didn't understand pitch attribute system.. Those 1 or 1.1 out of? [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION]?
 
BTW didn't understand pitch attribute system.. Those 1 or 1.1 out of? [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION]?
Its a scale between 0.8 to 1.2
For example
Spin - 0.8 means no spin in the pitch , 1.2 means a rank turner.
 
Bro [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] what’s the point of keeping the penalties system if most of captains aren’t happy with it? :))

I avoid repeating things. Penalty is just a reverse boost.
 
Penalty point will cause more flat pitches.. As you rarely need 5, 6, 7 batsman on phattas so we can always punish them on LOs, we can go full strength on FCs, so there will be tougher competitions in FC tournament..
Its a good tactic and now you have shared it to all. :broad All Teams tend to go that for full strength for FC (test).
 
[MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] I was wondering, do players have a fielding parameter or any other parameters that can be tweaked? Imagine distributing fielding points across the team :yk
 
[MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] I was wondering, do players have a fielding parameter or any other parameters that can be tweaked? Imagine distributing fielding points across the team :yk

I'll give that full point to me :hafeez
 
[MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] I was wondering, do players have a fielding parameter or any other parameters that can be tweaked? Imagine distributing fielding points across the team :yk

Academy is monitoring this discussion :butt
 
[MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] I was wondering, do players have a fielding parameter or any other parameters that can be tweaked? Imagine distributing fielding points across the team :yk
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Never tried it.
 
I avoid repeating things. Penalty is just a reverse boost.

It isn’t exactly the same - with boosts you didn’t have to use them all.

Plus here it’s so complicated and time consuming that most captains won’t have time to plan for all this :))
 
It isn’t exactly the same - with boosts you didn’t have to use them all.

Plus here it’s so complicated and time consuming that most captains won’t have time to plan for all this :))

It's going to be the same for all the teams, so let us plan with whatever rules the organizers have laid out.
 
It's going to be the same for all the teams, so let us plan with whatever rules the organizers have laid out.

It’s not about being the same or not. It’s about availability of captains. Not everyone has same amount of time to plan and spend on the league as others, which means there might be a lack of captains to even get this rolling.

At least personally I won’t have time to deal with such a complicated system to be able to captain.
 
It’s not about being the same or not. It’s about availability of captains. Not everyone has same amount of time to plan and spend on the league as others, which means there might be a lack of captains to even get this rolling.

At least personally I won’t have time to deal with such a complicated system to be able to captain.

Yeah in all honesty don't see myself leading this season.
 
It’s not about being the same or not. It’s about availability of captains. Not everyone has same amount of time to plan and spend on the league as others, which means there might be a lack of captains to even get this rolling.

At least personally I won’t have time to deal with such a complicated system to be able to captain.

The only change from last season is that we have penalties instead of boosts. Earlier we planned about which player to have increased skill (because all players were regulars by default), now we need to plan about which player will get reduced skill (because now we have 3 Gold and 5 Silver players).

Or am I completely missing something? What exactly is complicated here?
 
The only change from last season is that we have penalties instead of boosts. Earlier we planned about which player to have increased skill (because all players were regulars by default), now we need to plan about which player will get reduced skill (because now we have 3 Gold and 5 Silver players).

Or am I completely missing something? What exactly is complicated here?

You could use maximum 3 boosts there. And there was no limit you had to use it.

But here you have to use penalties on a lot more players and also plan more throughly how to spent the penalties on players - so it’s not as simple as last season - which by your own admission was not that flexible.

So are you saying now that last season was just as flexible as this season is going to be? :inti
 
Do you have to use all penalty points? What if you don’t use any?

Yes, all of them you have to use until the mid season and then again at the end of the season.

If you don't use it, then you won't be in any playoffs even if you qualified. Your team points will be cut down to half in all formats.

Even if you missed by just 10 point penalty remains the same.
 
Can captains trade themselves for someone else from another team?


In captain case, yes. He can easily go to another team if he wishes to move since he's captain of his team. In player case, both player and captain need to agree though to make that trade happen.
 
In captain case, yes. He can easily go to another team if he wishes to move since he's captain of his team. In player case, both player and captain need to agree though to make that trade happen.

What if the player is inactive?
 
How about [MENTION=53377]jeetu[/MENTION] bhayya play as a player,is it possible? That would make the draft pick even more interesting, if not all atleast play T20 if it's possible
 
Guys genuine concern - I think the season's starting too soon, and at a not-so-ideal time as most of us are students etc and have full-time school resuming starting September.

Personally speaking, I probably won't be able to lead this season and [MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] seems hesitant as well. Also [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] and [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] seem to be students from what I know and I'm not sure if they'd be down to lead with school starting?

Then we have PB who pretty much has no captain or VC, and to a lower extent MU as well (not sure what [MENTION=152120]TrentDevil[/MENTION]'s plans are and [MENTION=70195]AFM[/MENTION] seems to be MIA).

Assassins have been dead since last season although they have an active captain and I'm guessing MG will probably be active enough too as he doesn't have school etc to worry about atm.

For Cannons, [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] too has recommended [MENTION=135839]Smbhayi[/MENTION] to take over as captain, although I'm not entirely sure if that's because of time constraints.

All in all I personally think the season's starting too soon and don't see it drawing the same amount of interest. To those I have tagged and everyone else - please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if everyone else is down to roll with it of course.

Just my two cents.
 
Guys genuine concern - I think the season's starting too soon, and at a not-so-ideal time as most of us are students etc and have full-time school resuming starting September.

Personally speaking, I probably won't be able to lead this season and [MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] seems hesitant as well. Also [MENTION=145503]Mueez[/MENTION] and [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] seem to be students from what I know and I'm not sure if they'd be down to lead with school starting?

Then we have PB who pretty much has no captain or VC, and to a lower extent MU as well (not sure what [MENTION=152120]TrentDevil[/MENTION]'s plans are and [MENTION=70195]AFM[/MENTION] seems to be MIA).

Assassins have been dead since last season although they have an active captain and I'm guessing MG will probably be active enough too as he doesn't have school etc to worry about atm.

For Cannons, [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] too has recommended [MENTION=135839]Smbhayi[/MENTION] to take over as captain, although I'm not entirely sure if that's because of time constraints.

All in all I personally think the season's starting too soon and don't see it drawing the same amount of interest. To those I have tagged and everyone else - please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if everyone else is down to roll with it of course.

Just my two cents.
Valid point bro! I totally forgot about schools opening soon again. (Quarantine has made us all lazy :)) )

Honestly I don’t see me being that much active when school starts. Definitely not in September... I don’t know if [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] is available to lead Cornered Tigers.

As you said I think with normal life resuming soon in September - it is going to be a bit difficult for almost all of us to dedicate some time to PPCL.

Anyways if the rest wants the season to begin - I won’t have any problem and will do my best to be active however I will probably not be able to captain the side...
 
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Which is a shame really because I’d like to participate as much as possible when the season is happening. It was so much fun during the first season!
 
Valid point bro! I totally forgot about schools opening soon again. (Quarantine has made us all lazy :)) )

Honestly I don’t see me being that much active when school starts. Definitely not in September... I don’t know if [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] is available to lead Cornered Tigers.

As you said I think with normal life resuming soon in September - it is going to be a bit difficult for almost all of us to dedicate some time to PPCL.

Anyways if the rest wants the season to begin - I won’t have any problem and will do my best to be active however I will probably not be able to captain the side...

Yeah man that's the thing - season 1 was a success because the league had a core 15-20 members - although that's not a large number by any means, each of us devoted hours of our day to create hype and interest which ensured success. Personally speaking, I definitely won't be able to give it half as much time should it begin in September and it looks like others such as you won't either.

I didn't see myself taking on captaincy again either and it took a pandemic to free up that amount of time for me, but since July things have started to get back to normal here and come September life will only get busier.

Let's see what the response is like, but I think it's better we address this before the season begins rather than later.
 
Alright so when do you want the season to start [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION]?
 
I agree with SD - feels like we are starting too soon.

On top of people not having enough time to be part or captain in such a complicated season. We don’t have enough new sign-ups yet anyways.
 
Agree with [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION]

Availability and thus activity will be compromised and haven't yet heard from [MENTION=70195]AFM[/MENTION] [MENTION=152120]TrentDevil[/MENTION]

My situation is opposite. I have more free time now than what I had during season 1 when duty hours were extended.
For now we need more sign-ups and till then we can play friendly matches on weekends.
 
Agree with [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION]

Availability and thus activity will be compromised and haven't yet heard from [MENTION=70195]AFM[/MENTION] [MENTION=152120]TrentDevil[/MENTION]

My situation is opposite. I have more free time now than what I had during season 1 when duty hours were extended.
For now we need more sign-ups and till then we can play friendly matches on weekends.
We can play Pak Vs Engl game in that case..
 
So people don't want an early start of the new season, fair enough. We can have friendly matches or quadrangle series (involve all PPCL members) only on weekends then.
 
Alright so when do you want the season to start [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION]?

Personally I don't see myself captaining anytime soon in the near future. But I can still pop on every now and then and be semi-active if it restarts in a few months, say December-January. By then we should hopefully have new signups, and some time will have passed since the end of the previous season too so it should be more fun at that point.

But I'm just one member - it also (mainly) depends on the availability of others. At this point, the only confirmed captain is you, and we haven't even heard from others like [MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] [MENTION=152120]TrentDevil[/MENTION] [MENTION=70195]AFM[/MENTION] etc.

If everyone else is down to start right now then why not? But the response so far season 1 players as well as new signups has been underwhelming so it's probably the worst time to start. The ones who have responded have agreed with my sentiment.

I do like [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION]'s idea of an Eng vs Pak series maybe, instead of a full-blown PPCL.
 
So people don't want an early start of the new season, fair enough. We can have friendly matches or quadrangle series (involve all PPCL members) only on weekends then.

That's a good idea.
 
Yeah I won’t be able to captain either or be as involved. Friendlies sounds good for now.

We can also make two PPCL All Stars XI and play against each other.
 
PPCL season 2 has been postponed to a later date till then we're going to have friendly matches only on weekends to keep the forum active enough.

Two team series as it has been in progress in England.

Pakistan v England - 3 Tests, 3 ODIs, 3 T20Is

Need 2 captains to lead them.
 
[MENTION=23911]Moh@n[/MENTION] [MENTION=55088]Watsupdoc[/MENTION] [MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION]
 
I can be VC of England team if needed
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I suggest we include new sign-ups in 2 squads and intl players (2-3) should be from Pakistan and England current squads only.
 
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