Proud to be British?

[Robert]

Someone asked me if I have anything to be proud about as a Briton.

I had to have a think. Since Brexit, many Remainers are deeply ashamed of their country’s behaviour.

So I came up with this list….

Shakespeare
Contribution to Enlightenment
Glorious Revolution 1689
John & Harriet Stuart Mill
Lloyd George
The Pankhursts
Dickens
Battle of Britain
Beveridge
Keynes
Welfare state
Attlee
Contribution to post-WW2 liberal order
David Lean, Sir Ridley Scott, Danny Boyle
Beatles, Stones, Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Queen, Kate Bush
Newton, Darwin, Fleming, Davy, Bell, Baird, Hawking & Penrose
Good Friday Agreement
London 2012 Olympics

Come at me.

 

[topspin]

Someone asked me if I have anything to be proud about as a Briton.

I had to have a think. Since Brexit, many Remainers are deeply ashamed of their country’s behaviour.

So I came up with this list….

Shakespeare
Contribution to Enlightenment
Glorious Revolution 1689
John & Harriet Stuart Mill
Lloyd George
The Pankhursts
Dickens
Battle of Britain
Beveridge
Keynes
Welfare state
Attlee
Contribution to post-WW2 liberal order
David Lean, Sir Ridley Scott, Danny Boyle
Beatles, Stones, Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Queen, Kate Bush
Newton, Darwin, Fleming, Davy, Bell, Baird, Hawking & Penrose
Good Friday Agreement
London 2012 Olympics

Come at me.

I would also add the achievements of Andrew Caddick

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Britain is the greatest country ever. It's a gift from the almighty.

Now that your ego has boosted, please go ahead and sleep well

 

[Robert]

I would also add the achievements of Andrew Caddick

Good bowler!

 

[Robert]

Britain is the greatest country ever. It's a gift from the almighty.

Now that your ego has boosted, please go ahead and sleep well

Any sensible comments?

 

[Osama Shafeeqe]

1. The English language. Its the most spoken language in the world and truly is Earths first global language.
2. Creation of sports like Football, Rugby and Cricket
3. Adoption of other cultures into their own (many other cultures such as the French detested the cultures they over ruled. Many British people saw these cultures with wonder and curiosity but a lot were still incredibly racist)
4. Their academic structure/Universities

 

[shaz619]

Despite the massive debt due to 9k fiasco (also big fault of the cowardly/spineless Lib Dems), I am proud of the academic possibilities in the UK and at the higher education level, we have institutions with a vast pool of knowledge which accommodate all interests.

 

[IMMY69]

Someone asked me if I have anything to be proud about as a Briton.

I had to have a think. Since Brexit, many Remainers are deeply ashamed of their country’s behaviour.

So I came up with this list….

Shakespeare
Contribution to Enlightenment
Glorious Revolution 1689
John & Harriet Stuart Mill
Lloyd George
The Pankhursts
Dickens
Battle of Britain
Beveridge
Keynes
Welfare state
Attlee
Contribution to post-WW2 liberal order
David Lean, Sir Ridley Scott, Danny Boyle
Beatles, Stones, Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Queen, Kate Bush
Newton, Darwin, Fleming, Davy, Bell, Baird, Hawking & Penrose
Good Friday Agreement
London 2012 Olympics

Come at me.

How could leave out Sir David Attenborough?

 

[IMMY69]

Also, the NHS!

 

[Technics 1210]

Industrial revolution.
Railways.
Judicial system.
Only fools and horses.
Cricket.
Brexit.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Any sensible comments?

I've seen us desi subcontinent folk running after the white men for acknowledgment... found it funny to see it the other way around

 

[James]

Not sure about “pride” but I do feel a strong connection to being a British citizen and living by good British values, and feel lucky to have been born in the UK. These feelings have never really abated for me since I was young.

 

[RexRex]

Not sure about “pride” but I do feel a strong connection to being a British citizen and living by good British values, and feel lucky to have been born in the UK. These feelings have never really abated for me since I was young.

what are british values and what is the foundation based on - christian values? Is it different from western liberal values? Most of the democratic world is moving towards western liberal values anyway.

 

[RexRex]

Someone asked me if I have anything to be proud about as a Briton.

I had to have a think. Since Brexit, many Remainers are deeply ashamed of their country’s behaviour.

So I came up with this list….

Shakespeare
Contribution to Enlightenment
Glorious Revolution 1689
John & Harriet Stuart Mill
Lloyd George
The Pankhursts
Dickens
Battle of Britain
Beveridge
Keynes
Welfare state
Attlee
Contribution to post-WW2 liberal order
David Lean, Sir Ridley Scott, Danny Boyle
Beatles, Stones, Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Queen, Kate Bush
Newton, Darwin, Fleming, Davy, Bell, Baird, Hawking & Penrose
Good Friday Agreement
London 2012 Olympics

Come at me.

I think magna carta is the only real important one, which you missed in this list.

 

[topspin]

Good bowler!

On a serious note I would add:

1.Greatest democracy in the world
2. Rule of law here is second to none
3. Superior social mobility in comparison to other Western states
4. Sunday Roast
5. Fish and Chips
6. Yorkshire pudding
7. Historical architecture
8. Mr Bean

 

[Itachi]

Any sensible comments?

That post was justified since you ended the post with "come at me."


No one:
OP: "HERE'S WHY I AM PROUD TO BE BRITISH....
....
.....


COME AT ME."

 

[Robert]

what are british values and what is the foundation based on - christian values? Is it different from western liberal values? Most of the democratic world is moving towards western liberal values anyway.

Western Christianity is obviously a huge chunk of our cultural source code, with principles underpinning much criminal and civil law.

Christianity in turn is a can be described as an offshoot of Judaism, fused with some aspects of paganism, and Plato.

Then add in the European Enlightenment.

Then liberal philosophers such as Locke, Stuart Mill, Spinoza, Franklin, Voltaire.

 

[James]

what are british values and what is the foundation based on - christian values? Is it different from western liberal values? Most of the democratic world is moving towards western liberal values anyway.

This is what the UK government currently defines as “British Values”. There is definitely an Abrahamic religious basis as well as a liberal democratic basis. Children in the UK are compulsorily taught these 5 values from 0-16, starting in early years education and right through to their first formal qualifications (GCSEs) —

1. Democracy
2. Rule of law
3. Individual liberty
4. Mutual respect
5. Tolerance

<b>From gov.uk</b>

“A key part of our plan for education is to ensure children become valuable and fully rounded members of society who treat others with respect and tolerance, regardless of background.

We want every school to promote the basic British values of democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, and mutual respect and tolerance for those of different faiths and beliefs.

This ensures young people understand the importance of respect and leave school fully prepared for life in modern Britain.


Examples of the understanding and knowledge pupils are expected to learn include:

an understanding of how citizens can influence decision-making through the democratic process

an understanding that the freedom to hold other faiths and beliefs is protected in law
an acceptance that people having different faiths or beliefs to oneself (or having none) should be accepted and tolerated, and should not be the cause of prejudicial or discriminatory behaviour

an understanding of the importance of identifying and combatting discrimination


Examples of actions schools can take to promote British values are to:

include in suitable parts of the curriculum - as appropriate for the age of pupils - material on the strengths, advantages and disadvantages of democracy, and how democracy and the law works in Britain, in contrast to other forms of government in other countries

ensure all pupils within the school have a voice that is listened to, and demonstrate how democracy works by actively promoting democratic processes such as a school council whose members are voted for by the pupils

use opportunities such as general or local elections to hold mock elections to promote fundamental British values and provide pupils with the opportunity to learn how to argue and defend points of view

consider the role of extra-curricular activity, including any run directly by pupils, in promoting fundamental British values.”

 

[amax]

Indivisual genius in both arts and Sciences and institution building in public and democratic structure is most important contribution to me

Also to an extent preservation of old school "values" in many aspects , such things are quickly waning in modern information age.

 

[ElRaja]

the industrial revolution, it could have happened in other places later, but it happened in the UK, and it revolutionised everyone's life for the better. there has been no greater contribution to the improvement of the human species since the discovery of farming (however that occurred in different parts of the world over thousands of years, so not really one nation's contribution.

 

[Technics 1210]

1. Democracy
2. Rule of law
3. Individual liberty
4. Mutual respect
5. Tolerance

1. Brexit tested this point, and had it not been for our value and trust in democracy (even waged war to spread such value) then the decision to leave the EU may have been reverted thus plunging the UK into ignominy. Democracy would've died an no longer would the UK be seen as a nation that prides in democratic values.

2. Agree.

3. Total horsepukky. We have lost our indervidual liberty. Everything we say and do is recorded. We need to look behind our shoulders before we speak. We are on camera when walking or driving through the roads. All our posts, communications, transactions are recorded and available for any agency to read.

4. Liberalism destroyed any iota of mutual respects. It's the liberals shouting 'racists' to Brexit voters. It's the liberals shouting 'anti-vax' for those choosing bot to take the Covid vaccine.

5. Sums up UK. UK isn't a free society, it's a tolerant society, but factor in point 4, and even tolerance sounds like a joke now.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Let me see:

Football league is the best in my opinion
Self deprecatory humour
Language
Rule of law
*General sense of justice and fair play

That last one is probably the most important for me, Brits generally want to see justice done, they don't give much leeway to bribery or cutting corners.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

On a serious note I would add:

1.Greatest democracy in the world
2. Rule of law here is second to none
3. Superior social mobility in comparison to other Western states
4. Sunday Roast
5. Fish and Chips
6. Yorkshire pudding
7. Historical architecture
8. Mr Bean

4,5 and 6 are all great, but come on, don't tell me the sunday roast doesn't benefit from a touch of desi spices. Just a touch mind.

 

[JaDed]

While I definitely dislike Britain(and I always will) , there is still a lot of innovation left to come out of Britain.

ARM is still one of the best out there..
British actors are surprisingly still amazing(movies are not that great anymore).

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

While I definitely dislike Britain(and I always will) , there is still a lot of innovation left to come out of Britain.

ARM is still one of the best out there..
British actors are surprisingly still amazing(movies are not that great anymore).

It's an odd thing, while British actors are great, I don't actually like much British tv or British movies much. Their best work tends to come in American productions.

 

[JaDed]

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] No offense you are an amazing poster and been on this forum for more than a decade but I think this bothers you more because during your earlier years you still saw last few golden years of Britain, I don’t understand the reason why you are looking for this acknowledgement from other desi Brits?

 

[JaDed]

It's an odd thing, while British actors are great, I don't actually like much British tv or British movies much. Their best work tends to come in American productions.

It does , even Riz’s best work is an American production. American production are defn the best. It also helps that American production houses pay their employees(non-actors) a lot and there are lot of Indie filmmakers that don’t really want to be actors.

Daniel DL while an amazing actor and defn did well in British productions (two oscars) he went to next level with American ones.

 

[gani999]

Someone asked me if I have anything to be proud about as a Briton.

I had to have a think. Since Brexit, many Remainers are deeply ashamed of their country’s behaviour.

So I came up with this list….

Shakespeare
Contribution to Enlightenment
Glorious Revolution 1689
John & Harriet Stuart Mill
Lloyd George
The Pankhursts
Dickens
Battle of Britain
Beveridge
Keynes
Welfare state
Attlee
Contribution to post-WW2 liberal order
David Lean, Sir Ridley Scott, Danny Boyle
Beatles, Stones, Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Queen, Kate Bush
Newton, Darwin, Fleming, Davy, Bell, Baird, Hawking & Penrose
Good Friday Agreement
London 2012 Olympics

Come at me.

There's one British man whose name never figures in any list of great people, but without whom the modern technological world would have never been possible.

His name is Joseph Whitworth, and he developed the rationalised system of screw threads. He can be considered the father of modern manufacturing technology. From wristwatches to spacecraft, every engineering good manufactured owes its existence to Whitworth's standard screw measure.

And then there's Charles Babbage.

These two alone are enough to make any country rank among the greatest ever.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] No offense you are an amazing poster and been on this forum for more than a decade but I think this bothers you more because during your earlier years you still saw last few golden years of Britain, I don’t understand the reason why you are looking for this acknowledgement from other desi Brits?

Well there are plenty of non-Brit desis, they are always welcome to give a counter view.

 

[Technics 1210]

A few more:

London Underground. The world's first underground transportation system

The comet. The world's first jet airliner. Failed because of its large windows which resulted in cracks at high altitude resulting in a number of crashes. Boeing picked up on this and rest is history.

On topic of aviation, the Concorde. Yes the French were partners, but it was British ingenuity that lead to the success of the Concorde.

The world's only interchangeable national anthem. God save the Queen, or God save the King. Genius.

 

[Itachi]

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] No offense you are an amazing poster and been on this forum for more than a decade but I think this bothers you more because during your earlier years you still saw last few golden years of Britain, I don’t understand the reason why you are looking for this acknowledgement from other desi Brits?

Britain and the people losing its identity. One needs to remind about what makes a brit as a brit.... When you doubt your existence, you'll seek validation from others automatically.

 

[topspin]

4,5 and 6 are all great, but come on, don't tell me the sunday roast doesn't benefit from a touch of desi spices. Just a touch mind.

They absolutely love it, even those EDL and Tommy Robinson supporters who love to yell "curry boy" at Desis over here.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Let me see:

Football league is the best in my opinion
Self deprecatory humour
Language
Rule of law
*General sense of justice and fair play

That last one is probably the most important for me, Brits generally want to see justice done, they don't give much leeway to bribery or cutting corners.

Id go with this.

There are big issues in the UK in terms of its joke of a democracy, its evil foriegn policy but these can be changed and many are fighting for this change.

But no doubt the UK is the best nation to live in.

Premier League
Sports stadiums/events.
Music
Mixed culture
Films
British Humour
Millions of kind people, one of the most giving nations on Earth, similar to Pakistan.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Britain and the people losing its identity. One needs to remind about what makes a brit as a brit.... When you doubt your existence, you'll seek validation from others automatically.

Its best you leave it to the Brits to decide. There is no such thing as a British identity, we have freedoms here. You may have in India where respecting a cow is part of Indian indentity. Here as long as we obide by the law, we are free to do as we please including flying flags of other nations, supporting other national teams, not giving way to animinals etc.

 

[ElRaja]

this gentleman



newton gets all the plaudits as the greatest British physicist, but there is something magical about james clerk maxwell's maths.

if anyone has even a passing interest in science and physics, id suggest watching a youtube video about him.

his intellect and insight were amazing.

 

[James]

A few more:

London Underground. The world's first underground transportation system

The comet. The world's first jet airliner. Failed because of its large windows which resulted in cracks at high altitude resulting in a number of crashes. Boeing picked up on this and rest is history.

On topic of aviation, the Concorde. Yes the French were partners, but it was British ingenuity that lead to the success of the Concorde.

The world's only interchangeable national anthem. God save the Queen, or God save the King. Genius.

British inventors have done some amazing work — the World Wide Web, the television, the telephone.

 

[gazza619]

Britain is great no doubt compared to all countries in the world.

Has anyone else supported asylum seekers so much?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Britain is great no doubt compared to all countries in the world.

Has anyone else supported asylum seekers so much?

I think refugees also count. Pakistan has taken in many more.

You are right, UK has been a very accepting country but recently its for political gains from nations UK want to punish or coerce. Priti Patel is ok for them to drown at sea.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I'm not proud of historic British achievments as my ancestors weren't around then. I do admire the ingenuity and grit that resulted in a small Island nation taking over the world and producing so much in almost every field or science.

I'm proud to be a part of modern day Britian. I'm proud its one of the most welcoming nations on earth. Yes there is always work to do but generally if you work hard you have a chance to succeed - no matter your background.

We contribute so much to the world but sadly our foreign policy as a result of being shackled to America also contributes much misery.

I hope the day comes when our vibrant and forward thinking public get the chance to show the world how we can be a force for good and hope in the world.

Britain as a result of its 'soft power' can be a force for change, sadly this agenda doesn't suit our elites as they wont benefit from it.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Britain and the people losing its identity. One needs to remind about what makes a brit as a brit.... When you doubt your existence, you'll seek validation from others automatically.

Britain has lots a bit of its identity because of creeping Americanism. Our culture is very much America lite.

 

[Robert]

[MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] - the Tories are tearing up our civil liberties. The atrocious behaviour toward the Windrushers. The right to peaceful protest is going. The power to remove from dual nationals their British citizenship. These are signs of a slide into authoritarianism.

Unfortunately the public don’t understand what liberalism is and what it did for them, so they stand idle as their hard-won civil liberties are removed.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Plenty tbh but it's been let down by the cronies in charge

 

[leonidas_alexandar]

The language of English - the most dominant/widely used language in the world - connecting people of different cultures- I cannot even imagine which other language would have connected for example all the posters here who come from myriad cultural backgrounds.

Scientists of Britain - there's so many that I will run out of time - Stephen Hawking, Michael Faraday, Charles Darwin, Isaac Newton, Ada Lovelace...

Cricket.

 

[amax]

alan turing , widely known as father of AI

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Alan_Turing_Aged_16.jpg

 

[amax]

cumlative H index(impact factor) of all the living reserachers in a region/country

UK is still one of top regions in world for concentration of high impact living reserachers on planet

https://ideas.repec.org/top/top.country.hindex.html

 

[amax]

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] No offense you are an amazing poster and been on this forum for more than a decade but I think this bothers you more because during your earlier years you still saw last few golden years of Britain, I don’t understand the reason why you are looking for this acknowledgement from other desi Brits?

Golden years of britain compared to which measuring stick and on what criteria ?, obviously time of all powerful superpowers is over now with US of recent past being last , so you have to change your criterias to new era, in thia age we need to see more of top 10 lists.

 

[Robert]

[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] No offense you are an amazing poster and been on this forum for more than a decade but I think this bothers you more because during your earlier years you still saw last few golden years of Britain, I don’t understand the reason why you are looking for this acknowledgement from other desi Brits?

Don’t think I am doing that [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION].

Thanks for the praise.

Your comment about my living through UK’s last good years is penetrating. I am ashamed of Britain now - the Brexit Ultras, Johnson and Patel have turned it into something uglier, nastier and smaller than it was - and so I look inwards to seek to find a reason to stay on the ship.

Hence my list.

 

[Gilly]

Don’t think I am doing that [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION].

Thanks for the praise.

Your comment about my living through UK’s last good years is penetrating. I am ashamed of Britain now - the Brexit Ultras, Johnson and Patel have turned it into something uglier, nastier and smaller than it was - and so I look inwards to seek to find a reason to stay on the ship.

Hence my list.

Maybe you are just overthinking it. Someone or something is making you question your worth, the answer is simple, your actions define you not someone else's words.

 

[Technics 1210]

Illegality of guns.

Sure hunting guns are legal, but thank god we’re nothing like Amreeka where gun’s are a constitutional right.

 

[IMMY69]

The Carry On Films

 

[James]

Illegality of guns.

Sure hunting guns are legal, but thank god we’re nothing like Amreeka where gun’s are a constitutional right.

Gun crime in the UK has been reduced to an extremely low level, with very few gun related deaths on an annual basis. The laws around this have been highly successful.

 

[Robert]

Maybe you are just overthinking it. Someone or something is making you question your worth, the answer is simple, your actions define you not someone else's words.

Not my worth.

My country’s worth.

 

[Major]

hugh laurie

 

[Robert]

Gun crime in the UK has been reduced to an extremely low level, with very few gun related deaths on an annual basis. The laws around this have been highly successful.

They were before the Dunblane madman though. There were 100,000 pistol shooters who were happy to punch holes in paper targets at the weekend and never did any harm.

It’s fairly easy to get a shotgun legally if you have no criminal record and no record of mental health issues. Lots of people have them round my way (out in the sticks).

 

[Technics 1210]

They were before the Dunblane madman though. There were 100,000 pistol shooters who were happy to punch holes in paper targets at the weekend and never did any harm.

It’s fairly easy to get a shotgun legally if you have no criminal record and no record of mental health issues. Lots of people have them round my way (out in the sticks).

Before Dunblane? You are sensationalising again.

Dunblane was a one off, and triggered even tighter control.

Compare gun crime numbers in UK with rest of the world, and we are head and shoulders above.

Come on, support your country, even in the context of pre-Brexit!

 

[James]

They were before the Dunblane madman though. There were 100,000 pistol shooters who were happy to punch holes in paper targets at the weekend and never did any harm.

It’s fairly easy to get a shotgun legally if you have no criminal record and no record of mental health issues. Lots of people have them round my way (out in the sticks).

Not quite sure what your point is here Robbo?

Bring back guns in the UK?

 

[Robert]

Not quite sure what your point is here Robbo?

That the handgun ban didn’t make us any safer. We were very safe already due to the stringent laws that were already in place regarding handgun ownership.

 

[James]

That the handgun ban didn’t make us any safer. We were very safe already due to the stringent laws that were already in place regarding handgun ownership.

Handguns are cheap and concealable with (nowadays) quite large clips & the ammo is very easy to get hold of, making them arguably the most dangerous firearms of all in a public space barring fully automatic rifles. The ban was the right idea at the time and it should stay imo…

 

[Robert]

Britain is great no doubt compared to all countries in the world.

Has anyone else supported asylum seekers so much?

Germany has taken twenty times as many as us.

 

[Robert]

Handguns are cheap and concealable with (nowadays) quite large clips & the ammo is very easy to get hold of, making them arguably the most dangerous firearms of all in a public space barring fully automatic rifles. The ban was the right idea at the time and it should stay imo…

The level of handgun crime has climbed by 40% since Dunblane, though there will be other factors such as loss of social cohesion since Austerity began.

https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/gun-crime/

 

[KingKhanWC]

Although I dont believe its required in Islam.

Im proud Britain hasnt banned the niqab. The right of women to dress as they wish shows a civilised, tolerant culture.

 

[James]

Although I dont believe its required in Islam.

Im proud Britain hasnt banned the niqab. The right of women to dress as they wish shows a civilised, tolerant culture.

For sure. Many so called tolerant mainland European countries have banned numerous items of religious dress.

 

[Saj]

The NHS is the envy of many nations around the globe.

Fantastic service for the public.

 

[PakLFC]

Neither proud nor ashamed. The UK is just another country but of course I love it despite it's history.

 

[Robert]

Although I dont believe its required in Islam.

Im proud Britain hasnt banned the niqab. The right of women to dress as they wish shows a civilised, tolerant culture.

This is one of a couple of things you have changed my mind on with proper debate.

It was disappointing that the French did so - appearing to be a failure of Liberté.

 

[Robert]

The NHS is the envy of many nations around the globe.

Fantastic service for the public.

Maybe in the 1970s it was the envy of the world. But Thatcher shut thousands of wards, and the Service has run seriously understaffed for a decade, which has got even worse since Brexit as most EU nurses and doctors walked.

Germany has three times the critical care beds which is why they have the lowest COVID death rate in Europe.

 

[Technics 1210]

For sure. Many so called tolerant mainland European countries have banned numerous items of religious dress.

Not forgetting how the same tolerant mainland European countries have banned certain beliefs.

So proud the UK voted to leave the EU. We were importing facism by the bucket load.

 

[Saj]

The pride of Britain:

Wilmslow Road, Manchester

Soho Road, Birmingham

Broadway, Southall

Belgrave Road, Leicester

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Britain and the people losing its identity. One needs to remind about what makes a brit as a brit.... When you doubt your existence, you'll seek validation from others automatically.

Does this thread give any clue that there is any loss of British identity? I know you have consistently criticised Brit Paks, but seems like they are the ones who respect British values more than other more integrated types.

 

[Itachi]

Does this thread give any clue that there is any loss of British identity?

The following points to it. When someone has to "think" about the being proud about the nation.

Someone asked me if I have anything to be proud about as a Briton.

I had to have a think. Since Brexit, many Remainers are deeply ashamed of their country’s behaviour.

So I came up with this list….

more....

I know you have consistently criticised Brit Paks, but seems like they are the ones who respect British values more than other more integrated types.

My post has nothing specific to do with brit paks.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The following points to it. When someone has to "think" about the being proud about the nation.


more....
My post has nothing specific to do with brit paks.

These are strange statements from people living in the third world unless one feels they are in a better position themselves.

 

[Itachi]

These are strange statements from people living in the third world unless one feels they are in a better position themselves.

Identity doesn't depend upon the status of living/financial strength you have.

Since you have a materliastic outlook towards life, you may see it differently but the lack of self identity prevalent in this thread is an example of what I stated above.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Identity doesn't depend upon the status of living/financial strength you have.

Since you have a materliastic outlook towards life, you may see it differently but the lack of self identity prevalent in this thread is an example of what I stated above.

Which is fine, but if you advocate less material goals then would be better to promote those instead. What is your alternative?

 

[Robert]

Identity doesn't depend upon the status of living/financial strength you have.

Since you have a materliastic outlook towards life, you may see it differently but the lack of self identity prevalent in this thread is an example of what I stated above.

Who is lacking self-identity? I started the thread to explore sense of connection to the UK, and loss of it.

 

[Mamoon]

I love England/UK/Britain - a genuine Anglophile. Too bad I have had the misfortune of being a Pakistani, but at least I am proud of the fact that my country/region was once ruled by the British empire.

Too bad they had to leave.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I love England/UK/Britain - a genuine Anglophile. Too bad I have had the misfortune of being a Pakistani, but at least I am proud of the fact that my country/region was once ruled by the British empire.

Too bad they had to leave.

Great response. Some of your fellow subcontinent neighbours could learn from such honest appraisal.

 

[Napa]

Someone asked me if I have anything to be proud about as a Briton.

I had to have a think. Since Brexit, many Remainers are deeply ashamed of their country’s behaviour.

So I came up with this list….

Shakespeare
Contribution to Enlightenment
Glorious Revolution 1689
John & Harriet Stuart Mill
Lloyd George
The Pankhursts
Dickens
Battle of Britain
Beveridge
Keynes
Welfare state
Attlee
Contribution to post-WW2 liberal order
David Lean, Sir Ridley Scott, Danny Boyle
Beatles, Stones, Who, Led Zep, Pink Floyd, Bowie, Queen, Kate Bush
Newton, Darwin, Fleming, Davy, Bell, Baird, Hawking & Penrose
Good Friday Agreement
London 2012 Olympics

Come at me.

The gradual growth of democracy.

The liberal Protestant sects like the Unitarians and Quakers.

The contribution to the abolition of slavery worldwide, especially in the places like Zanzibar where it was practiced with the greatest brutality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Zanzibar#Zanzibar_Sultanate

 

[Robert]

I love England/UK/Britain - a genuine Anglophile. Too bad I have had the misfortune of being a Pakistani, but at least I am proud of the fact that my country/region was once ruled by the British empire.

Too bad they had to leave.

Interesting.

See my list of my British heroes - mainly philosophers, writers, musicians and scientists with a few progressive politicians.

Who would your British heroes be?

 

[KingKhanWC]

This is one of a couple of things you have changed my mind on with proper debate.

It was disappointing that the French did so - appearing to be a failure of Liberté.

We can also add the freedom to build religious sites/buildings. Freedom of religion exists in the Uk, we should all be proud of this.

In Swiss no minerats. In France its the worst, not only is there no freedom of religion, religions esp Islam is attacked by discrimination by their laws.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I love England/UK/Britain - a genuine Anglophile. Too bad I have had the misfortune of being a Pakistani, but at least I am proud of the fact that my country/region was once ruled by the British empire.

Too bad they had to leave.

When they ruled , they saw brown people present a lower class people, less human, some types of slaves to help their empire become richer. Why would you want to be seen as such today?

First I read a 'Pakistani' who doesnt live in the UK proud because of colonialism when he wasnt born lol.