PSL broadcaster withdraws its services for the final in Lahore

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sunset and Vine, the UK-based company that handles the broadcast of the PSL has withdrawn its services for the final in Lahore <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2017?src=hash">#PSL2017</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/836571437876068352">February 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Runner Up]

They were doing good job. Who will replace them?

 

[Runner Up]

Who will be the commentators in final? everyone is backing out.

 

[the Great Khan]

thats pathetic. But its part of the whole boycott Pakistan movement. The unspoken scandal of our times.

 

[Syed1]

The need of the hour was to swallow our ego and hold the final in Dubai and then try again next year.

However, by this time next year the elections will be on our heads and the politicians and their minions won't be able to claim it as a victory of holding the final in Takht-e-Lahore.

 

[IMMY69]

thats pathetic. But its part of the whole boycott Pakistan movement. The unspoken scandal of our times.

I'm sorry but I don't understand the logic here..

We're responsible for our own problems and responsible for sorting them out. Blaming outside sources is not going to solve our problems.

 

[Yaasir]

Not a big loss at all. PCB had a back up plan, as another Dubai based company by the name of Innovative Production Group will take over the broadcasting rights for the final.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I'm sorry but I don't understand the logic here..

We're responsible for our own problems and responsible for sorting them out. Blaming outside sources is not going to solve our problems.

I'm not sure if he's being sarcastic or not. However, there is some truth to his statement. Not that I'm blaming our internal problems on someone else but the broadcasters are primarily Indians and thus the boycott movement does make sense.

 

[Rayyman]

Get Ten Sports or Geo Super to do it.

 

[IMMY69]

I'm not sure if he's being sarcastic or not. However, there is some truth to his statement. Not that I'm blaming our internal problems on someone else but the broadcasters are primarily Indians and thus the boycott movement does make sense.

But then why buy the rights for it in UAE?

 

[RehanG]

End the contract and find some other broadcaster for coming year. No need for such broadcasters.

 

[Varun]

thats pathetic. But its part of the whole boycott Pakistan movement. The unspoken scandal of our times.

In your opinion are any of the problems Pakistan faces self inflicted at all?

No?

I thought so.

 

[Runner Up]

End the contract and find some other broadcaster for coming year. No need for such broadcasters.

One reason for not coming to Pakistan may be because majority of their employees are Indian and Najam Sethi did mention that PSL management is facing problems in getting clearance for visa which require considerable time. Sunset & Vine did a great job last year and this year so we should appreciate it.

 

[Amir]

thats pathetic. But its part of the whole boycott Pakistan movement. The unspoken scandal of our times.

Why broadcast the tournament then at all if they want to inflict pain on Pakistan....

 

[kaboom]

international companies have rules and regulations. I am sure If their was an indian involved in the management he would have played his cards

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Why broadcast the tournament then at all if they want to inflict pain on Pakistan....

Trojan horse, innit.

 

[Executioner]

Apply common sense people. Do you think the production team will all of a sudden be able to shift all its equipment from UAE to Pakistan just like that? Don't forget the personnel, Visa issues etc.

This has nothing to do with Indians wanting Pakistan to be deprived of cricket.

 

[The_KING]

thats pathetic. But its part of the whole boycott Pakistan movement. The unspoken scandal of our times.

Pakistan isn't a safe country. No foreigner in their right mind would be willing to risk their lives by coming to a country where terrorists roam the streets on a daily basis. This isn't some conspiracy against Pakistan. Pakistan just isn't safe. Pakistanis should accept that fact.

 

[Varun]

Why broadcast the tournament then at all if they want to inflict pain on Pakistan....

Shush! Why let facts get in the way of a victim complex?

 

[TalhaSyed]

Back in July 2016 Sethi said that that PCB as considering to play the final in Lahore.

In Nov 2016 when the schedule for the PSL was announced, the PCB made clear that they intend to hold the final in Lahore.

S&V had all the time they needed to put the appropriate arrangements in place to cover the final in Lahore if they wanted to. I'm sorry, but saying stuff like "they didn't have time to sort out visa's for employees" or that "they cant transfer all the equipment from Dubai to Lahore" - as if we live in a time when they need to travel by boats - is by no means a suitable excuse.

You could argue that the excuse of safety is valid, however, this years final was always intended to be held in Lahore. The PCB and S&V should have ironed this out way before now. If S&V were not happy to send their production crew to Pakistan the PCB either should not have awarded them PSL 2, or at the very least, PCB should have put alternate arrangements in place already with regards to the final.

Time will tell if PCB are prepared for this. The PSL 2017 final is shaping up to be a Faysal Bank T20 final aired on GEO TV, with GEO production value, local players and Urdu commentary.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Pakistan isn't a safe country. No foreigner in their right mind would be willing to risk their lives by coming to a country where terrorists roam the streets on a daily basis. This isn't some conspiracy against Pakistan. Pakistan just isn't safe. Pakistanis should accept that fact.

To be fair there are 1000s of foreigners working in Pakistan. Sure most work for foreign governments (legally of course ) but they are still there. There are also lots of foreigners working for the multinationals there.

Would I visit Pakistan right now? Probably not however there's no need to paint it as some kind of Aleppo or Mosul type place.

 

[Saj]

A simple question for the PCB think tank.

Why wasn't all this sorted out before the tournament? Why not go for a broadcaster who was willing to also work in Pakistan.

 

[IMMY69]

A simple question for the PCB think tank.

Why wasn't all this sorted out before the tournament? Why not go for a broadcaster who was willing to also work in Pakistan.

Does it need a think tank to come out with the answers?

I think Most of us know why things have turned out the way they have..

 

[Gotham Cronie]

A simple question for the PCB think tank.

Why wasn't all this sorted out before the tournament? Why not go for a broadcaster who was willing to also work in Pakistan.

You could argue that the excuse of safety is valid, however, this years final was always intended to be held in Lahore. The PCB and S&V should have ironed this out way before now. If S&V were not happy to send their production crew to Pakistan the PCB either should not have awarded them PSL 2, or at the very least, PCB should have put alternate arrangements in place already with regards to the final.

Why broadcast the tournament then at all if they want to inflict pain on Pakistan....

Perhaps S&V was always going to work in Pakistan but then the blasts the past two weeks have changed their mind?

 

[Gotham Cronie]

If it's a visa issue, shame on the PCB.

If S&V was never going to go to Pakistan and never made it clear to the PCB, shame on them.

It seems that S&V said that they would evaluate closer to the Final since the PCB had a standby.

 

[TalhaSyed]

Perhaps S&V was always going to work in Pakistan but then the blasts the past two weeks have changed their mind?

Unfortunately it's no secret that Lahore, or Pakistan as a whole, is prone to terrorist attacks and isn't the safest place in the world.

The whole point is that companies - such as S&V - should think these risks through before signing on the dotted line and shouldn't be able to simply "change their mind" following events which unfortunately - as sad as it is - aren't too out of the ordinary

It is possible that S&V mentioned that they may pull out prior to PSL and PCB have alternate arrangements but time will tell

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

The entire process has been poorly managed by PCB.

 

[godzilla]

A simple question for the PCB think tank.

Why wasn't all this sorted out before the tournament? Why not go for a broadcaster who was willing to also work in Pakistan.

a million percent agree. which major tournament in the world doesn't know where the final is going to be held a few days before it is scheduled. its a total laughing stock.

 

[Indiafan]

Unfortunately it's no secret that Lahore, or Pakistan as a whole, is prone to terrorist attacks and isn't the safest place in the world.

The whole point is that companies - such as S&V - should think these risks through before signing on the dotted line and shouldn't be able to simply "change their mind" following events which unfortunately - as sad as it is - aren't too out of the ordinary

It is possible that S&V mentioned that they may pull out prior to PSL and PCB have alternate arrangements but time will tell

you do realize that psl final being in Pakistan was announced half way after the tournament began and not before it began? Pcb seems to be the one who changed their mind here

 

[MightyObnoxious]

Sunset+Vine pulled out, that's bad. But PCB had a contingency plan and had Innovative Production Group as a back up. They will produce the final. Not Geo or PTV.

 

[mhraja]

Heard there will be no DRS as well ?

 

[the Great Khan]

Sunset+Vine pulled out, that's bad. But PCB had a contingency plan and had Innovative Production Group as a back up. They will produce the final. Not Geo or PTV.

so whats the difference between innovative production group and sunset vine? I mean they must have staff? why are they ok to go and not sunset vine? smacks of a prejudicial attitude towards Pakistan that has existed since the inception of pakistan cricket.

 

[SL_Fan]

Stick to the topic pls.

 

[the Great Khan]

I think its one match and i think the new group will do a great job..i cant wait to see it more so now.

 

[tahir_dj]

you do realize that psl final being in Pakistan was announced half way after the tournament began and not before it began? Pcb seems to be the one who changed their mind here

no it wasn't it was decided back in October before the draft that the final will be in Lahore.

 

[Slog]

you do realize that psl final being in Pakistan was announced half way after the tournament began and not before it began? Pcb seems to be the one who changed their mind here

not factual

 

[the Great Khan]

not factual

the truth wont change his mind.

 

[Zahid87]

smacks of a prejudicial attitude towards Pakistan that has existed since the inception of pakistan cricket.

You need to get this chip off your shoulder.

In this particular case, given the recent attacks, and the subsequent doubt that cast on whether Lahore was safe enough for the final, it is understandable that certain people may feel uncomfortable travelling to Pakistan.

Sunset and Vine, as well as some players, and the companies behind hawk eye, and spider cam too may have signed up with the intention that should the final be in Lahore, and the country deemed safe enough be security advisers that they can trust, they would travel.

Like many players, they were happy enough to work in the UAE.The situation changed. Can't help it. No fault of theirs.

Perhaps that does not fit into your paranoia regarding the Indo / Western conspiracy to destroy the great danger that is Pakistan, and Pakistan Cricket, but its a reasonable assertion.

 

[tahir_dj]

You need to get this chip off your shoulder.

In this particular case, given the recent attacks, and the subsequent doubt that cast on whether Lahore was safe enough for the final, it is understandable that certain people may feel uncomfortable travelling to Pakistan.

Sunset and Vine, as well as some players, and the companies behind hawk eye, and spider cam too may have signed up with the intention that should the final be in Lahore, and the country deemed safe enough be security advisers that they can trust, they would travel.

Like many players, they were happy enough to work in the UAE.The situation changed. Can't help it. No fault of theirs.

Perhaps that does not fit into your paranoia regarding the Indo / Western conspiracy to destroy the great danger that is Pakistan, and Pakistan Cricket, but its a reasonable assertion.

You do realize that if we don't break the ice now we will be in exact same situation next year? so in a way isn't it better to hold it in Lahore and filter out those who doesn't wanna come for next year.

 

[Zahid87]

You do realize that if we don't break the ice now we will be in exact same situation next year? so in a way isn't it better to hold it in Lahore and filter out those who doesn't wanna come for next year.

Hold it where ever you like. Its the PCB's perogative, and to be fair to them, whatever decision they made would attract criticism. My personal view may be different, but that is neither here nor there. The PCB, governement and army have made the decision, and good luck to them.

My point in that post was that rather than think that the broadcasters and other vendors were trying to boycott Pakistan as part of a wider conspiracy, it may be reasonable that they may have some reservations over coming.

 

[TalhaSyed]

you do realize that psl final being in Pakistan was announced half way after the tournament began and not before it began? Pcb seems to be the one who changed their mind here

Really?

Here's an article for Nov 2016 saying that the PSL final will be taking place in Lahore:

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-new...eague-2-final-to-be-held-in-lahore-on-march-7

Since then there have been numerous security concerns, however, as far as the official schedule and PCB are concerned, the final was always meant to be in Lahore, ever since the the PSL 2 schedule was announced back in November.

In fact even last October, before the official schedule was even announced, the PCB said that the final will be in Lahore:

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1206825/no-change-plan-decision-hold-psl-final-lahore-stands-sethi/

https://www.thenewstribe.com/2016/10/19/confirm-lahore-set-host-psl-2-final/

Sure - there have been security concerns & some people have raised their concern about the final in being in Lahore, however, at no stage did the PCB say the final will not be in Lahore.I have no idea where this "psl final being in Pakistan was announced half way after the tournament began" statement comes from.

 

[TalhaSyed]

Sunset+Vine pulled out, that's bad. But PCB had a contingency plan and had Innovative Production Group as a back up. They will produce the final. Not Geo or PTV.

Even though I'm not 100% convinced that having the final in Lahore is the correct call - credit has to be given where credit is due. If the PCB were prepared for this and have a back up plan in place, which would allow the final to be broadcast without diminishing the quality, then that is very well done by the PCB.

 

[the Great Khan]

Hold it where ever you like. Its the PCB's perogative, and to be fair to them, whatever decision they made would attract criticism. My personal view may be different, but that is neither here nor there. The PCB, governement and army have made the decision, and good luck to them.

My point in that post was that rather than think that the broadcasters and other vendors were trying to boycott Pakistan as part of a wider conspiracy, it may be reasonable that they may have some reservations over coming.

I don't have a chip on my shoulder. i am simply saying it as it is. Since the establishment of the BCCP and then the PCB Pakistan has largely been a no go country even when it has been relatively peaceful. Why? especially when other countries have been at times worse off than us?

with regards to the break the ICE. that is the approach I want to see. We need to start hosting something soon otehrwise you can kiss this forum and pakistan cricket goodbye. It is an existential issue for us.

Finally the conspiracy theory, err it isnt. It is a stated goal of our enemy to isolate us culturally, economically and socially. Theya re very open about this. A conspiracy is something that is hidden. This is geopolitical policy. Ratified and spoken about in public. I suggest some of you wake up. You are in a war. A different kind of war but a war nonetheless. And its time to fight back!

 

[MenInG]

polite request before I start deleting - stick to PSL only

 

[the Great Khan]

sunset vine should not have backed out. Are all their staff foreigners? but if it was me I would look at their contract for next year if innovative group do a good job..

 

[tahir_dj]

I don't have a chip on my shoulder. i am simply saying it as it is. Since the establishment of the BCCP and then the PCB Pakistan has largely been a no go country even when it has been relatively peaceful. Why? especially when other countries have been at times worse off than us?

with regards to the break the ICE. that is the approach I want to see. We need to start hosting something soon otehrwise you can kiss this forum and pakistan cricket goodbye. It is an existential issue for us.

Finally the conspiracy theory, err it isnt. It is a stated goal of our enemy to isolate us culturally, economically and socially. Theya re very open about this. A conspiracy is something that is hidden. This is geopolitical policy. Ratified and spoken about in public. I suggest some of you wake up. You are in a war. A different kind of war but a war nonetheless. And its time to fight back!

We have to be positive and support PCB on this instead of criticizing them and it was announced last year that Season 2 Final will be in Pakistan and Season 3 Semi finals and Finals.

Every body knows who doesn't want cricket to come back to Pakistan to show normalcy and the reason for the events took place all of sudden, it will be same year after after year. We can't get bogged down by this.

Unfortunately we have more negative mindsets who uses internet than the positive ones.

 

[the Great Khan]

We have to be positive and support PCB on this instead of criticizing them and it was announced last year that Season 2 Final will be in Pakistan and Season 3 Semi finals and Finals.

Every body knows who doesn't want cricket to come back to Pakistan to show normalcy and the reason for the events took place all of sudden, it will be same year after after year. We can't get bogged down by this.

Unfortunately we have more negative mindsets who uses internet than the positive ones.

totally agree. The PSL is the way in for us. Like I said before if we can show we can host these higher profle matches with even a couple of foreigners then we can add another final next year, then more matches the year after with the odd int t20 mixed in. We must have a five year plan and ask the ICC for more support..time to fight back!!