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PSL is showing that Pakistan has youngsters who can play modern-day cricket

Katwalindian said:
Ipl is not even great...literally sandeep sharma, jaydev unadakat, vaibhav adorable are strike bowlers.......
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Bumrah, Siraj, Hardik Pandya, Shami, Arshdeep Singh, Harshit Rana, I believe they all play IPL...

The difference in quality is like night and day..

PSL is pathetic...
 
usman.sandhu said:
Bumrah, Siraj, Hardik Pandya, Shami, Arshdeep Singh, Harshit Rana, I believe they all play IPL...

The difference in quality is like night and day..

PSL is pathetic...
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Hardik Arshdeep Harshit all go for runs like today Arshdeep conceded 42 in 4 overs when team total was 160...... Other day Hardik conceded 39 in 3 overs night and day quality is in your head not reality..... Apart from a handful of players IPL doesn't have much better players than PSL.
 
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Cric1234 said:
Hardik Arshdeep Harshit all go for runs like today Arshdeep conceded 42 in 4 overs when team total was 160...... Other day Hardik conceded 39 in 3 overs night and day quality is in your head not reality...... Apart from a handful of players IPL doesn't have much better players than PSL.
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No its not in my head, have you seen us play against Hardik, Bumrah and Arshdeep? They get smashed in IPL at times because the quality of batting is far superior to ours...

You cannot see it because you have an agenda to peddle, or maybe you are just too dense to understand cricket...

The quality is night and day.. PSL is pathetic IPL is far superior..

If you've been sleeping for the past 4 years, India have absolutely dominated world cricket and IPL has played a major part in this...

Our pathetic PSL players have been badly exposed at the international level and have no answers.. no technique, no stamina, no will power..

Stop living in your fantasy world, wake up and come back to reality.. the difference in IPL and PSL's quality is "night and day"..
 
usman.sandhu said:
No its not in my head, have you seen us play against Hardik, Bumrah and Arshdeep? They get smashed in IPL at times because the quality of batting is far superior to ours...

You cannot see it because you have an agenda to peddle, or maybe you are just too dense to understand cricket...

The quality is night and day.. PSL is pathetic IPL is far superior..

If you've been sleeping for the past 4 years, India have absolutely dominated world cricket and IPL has played a major part in this...

Our pathetic PSL players have been badly exposed at the international level and have no answers.. no technique, no stamina, no will power..

Stop living in your fantasy world, wake up and come back to reality.. the difference in IPL and PSL's quality is "night and day"..
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Oh no...you have hurt his emotions again.. :inti

Now get ready for more triggered rambling in broken English with a barrage of strawman arguments that make no sense at all.
 
Mesozoic said:
Oh no...you have hurt his emotions again.. :inti

Now get ready for more triggered rambling in broken English with a barrage of strawman arguments that make no sense at all.
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Oh my, I seem to have touched a nerve; my condolences on your low IQ and difficulty in grasping realities.. I can try and construct simpler sentences so you can understand better..
 
Mesozoic said:
Oh no...you have hurt his emotions again.. :inti

Now get ready for more triggered rambling in broken English with a barrage of strawman arguments that make no sense at all.
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Im still waiting for your facts and logic explanation of how IPL is far superior to PSL and how teams turn a 180 wicket into 240 claims. :inti
 
usman.sandhu said:
No its not in my head, have you seen us play against Hardik, Bumrah and Arshdeep? They get smashed in IPL at times because the quality of batting is far superior to ours...

You cannot see it because you have an agenda to peddle, or maybe you are just too dense to understand cricket...

The quality is night and day.. PSL is pathetic IPL is far superior..

If you've been sleeping for the past 4 years, India have absolutely dominated world cricket and IPL has played a major part in this...

Our pathetic PSL players have been badly exposed at the international level and have no answers.. no technique, no stamina, no will power..

Stop living in your fantasy world, wake up and come back to reality.. the difference in IPL and PSL's quality is "night and day"..
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Nahid Rana bouncing out pakistan batsmen at Mirpur exposed their weaknesses.
 
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No its not in my head, have you seen us play against Hardik, Bumrah and Arshdeep? They get smashed in IPL at times because the quality of batting is far superior to ours...

You cannot see it because you have an agenda to peddle, or maybe you are just too dense to understand cricket...

The quality is night and day.. PSL is pathetic IPL is far superior..

If you've been sleeping for the past 4 years, India have absolutely dominated world cricket and IPL has played a major part in this...

Our pathetic PSL players have been badly exposed at the international level and have no answers.. no technique, no stamina, no will power..

Stop living in your fantasy world, wake up and come back to reality.. the difference in IPL and PSL's quality is "night and day"..
[/QUOTE] Actually IPL has gone on for 18 years why didnt India win for a long time? Pakistan almost beat India in Asia Cup final with them poor bowlers you were talking about and they will do better in future once they remove Babar Agha type batsmen. Watch when Bumrah isn't there to save India we will see if they win the overall quality of a league isn't that simple to gauge the quality of IPL has been better a decade ago even when India didn't win because a tournament win can be decided by winning or losing close knockout games.
 
PSL must have been better than IPL in 21 and 22 because Pakistan did better than India then...... No its not quite like that same as IPL is better now than 10 years ago because India won now but lost then... Again no overall quality of a league is not just if a team gets over the line in tournament knockouts as there are a lot of players in that league who make up the overall quality.
 
Please Name the youngsters??? Not flashes in the pan.... We know Saim already... next?
 
Cric1234 said:
Im still waiting for your facts and logic explanation of how IPL is far superior to PSL and how teams turn a 180 wicket into 240 claims. :inti
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What logical explanation you need? 🤣

It's common knowledge that Teams with inferior batting skills and power hitting abilities score way below par even on flat batting wickets because they don't have the required oomph to keep smashing consistently for 20 overs.

This is the exact same reason why Pakistan has still not crossed the 400 barrier in ODIs whereas almost all the other top 8 sides have breached it multiple times long back. There's another bare fact for you to get triggered over lmao
 
Cric1234 said:
PSL must have been better than IPL in 21 and 22 because Pakistan did better than India then...... No its not quite like that same as IPL is better now than 10 years ago because India won now but lost then... Again no overall quality of a league is not just if a team gets over the line in tournament knockouts as there are a lot of players in that league who make up the overall quality.
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1. Pakistan were not better than Indian in 2021-2022 because we played 4 T20s during that period and the scoreline was 2-2.

2. IPL is indeed better now than it was 10 years ago... because it now has wider quality talent pool of Indian players who form it's core.

3. Finally you're right...it's the players that make up the overall quality of the league. So let's compare...

IPL is home to the last 2 World T20 champions, their entire talent pool and has the best available talent from rest of the top sides in world cricket..

PS is home to a mediocre Pakistani T20 team that hasn't even reached a SF in the last 2 T20 WCs, and their overseas quota is made up of third string players from the top sides , retired pensioners and associate players..


Take a deep breathe, keep your emotions aside and make a logical conclusion based on the above mentioned facts. It's not that hard.
 
Mesozoic said:
1. Pakistan were not better than Indian in 2021-2022 because we played 4 T20s during that period and the scoreline was 2-2.

2. IPL is indeed better now than it was 10 years ago... because it now has wider quality talent pool of Indian players who form it's core.

3. Finally you're right...it's the players that make up the overall quality of the league. So let's compare...

IPL is home to the last 2 World T20 champions, their entire talent pool and has the best available talent from rest of the top sides in world cricket..

PS is home to a mediocre Pakistani T20 team that hasn't even reached a SF in the last 2 T20 WCs, and their overseas quota is made up of third string players from the top sides , retired pensioners and associate players..


Take a deep breathe, keep your emotions aside and make a logical conclusion based on the above mentioned facts. It's not that hard.
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Your forgot your other silly logic of Dhoni Rahane Narine and others are fine to play at a lower level now because they won titles in the past. Pakistan reached the final in 22 surely a bad league cant allow that to happen...... Can't let some emotional trolling let you see reality if PSL is like that IPL also has pensioners and some third rate domestic players this season only a emotional illogical troll from India can't see that...., wait until India doesn't win world t20 maybe then you will see it.
 
Cric1234 said:
Your forgot your other silly logic of Dhoni Rahane Narine and others are fine to play at a lower level now because they won titles in the past. Pakistan reached the final in 22 surely a bad league cant allow that to happen...... Can't let some emotional trolling let you see reality if PSL is like that IPL also has pensioners and some third rate domestic players this season only a emotional illogical troll from India can't see that...., wait until India doesn't win world t20 maybe then you will see it.
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Okay let me break it down for you one last time...

The likes of Dhoni, Rahane and Narine make up a tiny minority in the IPL. The rest of the slots are filled by the best young active Indian players and the best talent from overseas.

Meanwhile majority of PSL is covered with mediocre Pakistani talent and third string/associate/Pensioner foreign players who can't even dream of playing for their national sides (barring associate players of course).

WIpe your tears away and tell me if I'm wrong on this.
 
Again another post massaging players in IPL and that same copy and paste paragraph about PSL why bother just say Im going to say the same thing again and again.
 
Cric1234 said:
Your forgot your other silly logic of Dhoni Rahane Narine and others are fine to play at a lower level now because they won titles in the past. Pakistan reached the final in 22 surely a bad league cant allow that to happen...... Can't let some emotional trolling let you see reality if PSL is like that IPL also has pensioners and some third rate domestic players this season only a emotional illogical troll from India can't see that...., wait until India doesn't win world t20 maybe then you will see it.
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Pakistan should focus on winning Asia cup T20I first before worrying about down fall of back to back two time world champion with two different teams.
 
Cric1234 said:
Again another post massaging players in IPL and that same copy and paste paragraph about PSL why bother just say Im going to say the same thing again and again.
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when someone talks about EPL quality they talk about Messi , Ronaldo not some 43 year old goal keeper and say hey look our pakistan premerie footleague is best because EPL plays a 43 year old . This is called strawman argument.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
when someone talks about EPL quality they talk about Messi , Ronaldo not some 43 year old goal keeper and say hey look our pakistan premerie footleague is best because EPL plays a 43 year old . This is called strawman argument.
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Yes of course IPL has the best young talent amazing overseas players and top older players...... While PSL is a mediocre minnow level league full of crap players that's more of what Indians want to read that should make you happy.
 
usman.sandhu said:
Bumrah, Siraj, Hardik Pandya, Shami, Arshdeep Singh, Harshit Rana, I believe they all play IPL...

The difference in quality is like night and day..

PSL is pathetic...
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Only bumrah and arshdeep are good t20 bowlers........ shami and siraj in t20s is never heard of........
 
Cric1234 said:
Yes of course IPL has the best young talent amazing overseas players and top older players...... While PSL is a mediocre minnow level league full of crap players that's more of what Indians want to read that should make you happy.
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Who are you to label them crap players? If same player now transfer to IPL you will praise them..hypocrisy at its peak..........
 
Cric1234 said:
Yes of course IPL has the best young talent amazing overseas players and top older players...... While PSL is a mediocre minnow level league full of crap players that's more of what Indians want to read that should make you happy.
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Second part is not shared by Indians. Mostly pakistan gave that view. I already created an elaborate table of strike rate difference between IPL and international of same players and PSL and international of same players. The difference is negative in IPL. Basically Indian batsmen had less strike rate in IPL than internationals. But Pakistani batsmen had higher strike rate in PSL than internationals.
 
Cric1234 said:
Yes of course IPL has the best young talent amazing overseas players and top older players...... While PSL is a mediocre minnow level league full of crap players that's more of what Indians want to read that should make you happy.
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What nonsense is this? At least check the title of this thread.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Second part is not shared by Indians. Mostly pakistan gave that view. I already created an elaborate table of strike rate difference between IPL and international of same players and PSL and international of same players. The difference is negative in IPL. Basically Indian batsmen had less strike rate in IPL than internationals. But Pakistani batsmen had higher strike rate in PSL than internationals.
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The EPL in most parts is tougher than playing international footballers because there are no easy matches anymore in EPL. Even a relegation contender can give a tough fight to a table leader on their day.

Whereas in Internationals in football , especially friendlies and qualifiers , there are plenty of chances for teams to get easy goals etc. Especially in Europe , not so much in south america.

But IPL's league cricket isn't as good as icc world cup t20s yet , but it is getting to that stage soon especially because a lot of the teams haven't made the jump to T20 cricket that SENA and India have done.
 
sithb said:
The EPL in most parts is tougher than playing international footballers because there are no easy matches anymore in EPL. Even a relegation contender can give a tough fight to a table leader on their day.

Whereas in Internationals in football , especially friendlies and qualifiers , there are plenty of chances for teams to get easy goals etc. Especially in Europe , not so much in south america.

But IPL's league cricket isn't as good as icc world cup t20s yet , but it is getting to that stage soon especially because a lot of the teams haven't made the jump to T20 cricket that SENA and India have done.
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Cricket is a complicated sports which has far too many variables.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Cricket is a complicated sports which has far too many variables.
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And football doesn't ?

The decision making in football is far superior to the decision making in cricket. Especially the split second decisions.

People especially desis often think that football is an uncomplicated game. The reality is far removed from that.
 
And league football like EPL often provides just that input. Players are extensively coached and guided to make the best use of their talents.
 
I can extend the conversation further if you are following football extensively otherwise whatever I say will most likely blow right by you.
 
sithb said:
And football doesn't ?

The decision making in football is far superior to the decision making in cricket. Especially the split second decisions.

People especially desis often think that football is an uncomplicated game. The reality is far removed from that.
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There is no equivalnce of toss, dew, damp wicket. If you add everything up no sports can come close to cricket, match ups, long boundary, short boundary manipulation. form, individual match ups. In foot ball you don't keep the ball to yourself all the time.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
What nonsense is this? At least check the title of this thread.
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Can't you see how many times that Indian troll has posted that so I did it for him...... save him the time to type the same paragraph for the umpteenth time.
 
A 21 ball 50 and a 19 ball 50 by two young openers whose name are not Babar and Rizwan.


Tonight, I will list a whole bunch of posters who deserve to be called out for the b.s claim of no good players available in the domestics and thats why Babar and Rizwan need to play T20.

@RedwoodOriginal sorry mate, you will also have to be reminded.
 
Rana said:
A 21 ball 50 and a 19 ball 50 by two young openers whose name are not Babar and Rizwan.


Tonight, I will list a whole bunch of posters who deserve to be called out for the b.s claim of no good players available in the domestics and thats why Babar and Rizwan need to play T20.

@RedwoodOriginal sorry mate, you will also have to be reminded.
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And Maaz played 20 balls at a better strike than Farhan and Smith he's done better than international players.
 
Rana said:
A 21 ball 50 and a 19 ball 50 by two young openers whose name are not Babar and Rizwan.


Tonight, I will list a whole bunch of posters who deserve to be called out for the b.s claim of no good players available in the domestics and thats why Babar and Rizwan need to play T20.

@RedwoodOriginal sorry mate, you will also have to be reminded.
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You will remind me but not your buddy @RizwanT20Champ who still cheerleads for these two.

Just goes to show what an unbiased, objective and honest observer of the game you are.

Also, there's nothing wrong with changing your opinion. You absolutely should change your opinion when the facts change. If anything, its a sign of growth. I don't regret anything because back then these two were scoring runs and the T20 format was in a much different place than it is today.
 
Yeah, but you need a proper domestuc structure too, you'll remain a mediocre team, if you take your main T20 tournament as just some joke, and change domestic structure every two years lol, also what's this bowling quality myth Like is any glenn mcgrath, malcolm marshall kinda bloke bowling there, because there are'net even proper 4 over t20 bowlers man, like forget umer gul, jasprit bumrah, most of the bowling attacks they face can easily eb thrashed by usa/ireland level batters imo, best thing is to stop making comparisons and try to improve the structure
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
You will remind me but not your buddy @RizwanT20Champ who still cheerleads for these two.

Just goes to show what an unbiased, objective and honest observer of the game you are.

Also, there's nothing wrong with changing your opinion. You absolutely should change your opinion when the facts change. If anything, its a sign of growth. I don't regret anything because back then these two were scoring runs and the T20 format was in a much different place than it is today.
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Rana is a far more objective fan than you are regardless of my different opinions on cricket with him. We are aligned on national interests.

I dont cheerlead for either. Riz is the best keeper in the country but has been found wanting with the bat.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Rana is a far more objective fan than you are regardless of my different opinions on cricket with him. We are aligned on national interests.

I dont cheerlead for either. Riz is the best keeper in the country but has been found wanting with the bat.
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I guess you missed the part where I give a damn about what a poster named 'Rizwan T20 Champ' thinks about how objective, or not objective I am

That would be like me caring what the drugged out hobo sleeping on the sidewalk thinks about me
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I guess you missed the part where I give a damn about what a poster named 'Rizwan T20 Champ' thinks about how objective, or not objective I am

That would be like me caring what the drugged out hobo sleeping on the sidewalk thinks about me
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Why the ad hominem bro? Just acknowledge Rana is a better poster than you will ever be, whether I agree with some of his cricketing views or not his knowledge is undeniable. Cannot say the same for you, unfortunately.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Why the ad hominem bro? Just acknowledge Rana is a better poster than you will ever be, whether I agree with some of his cricketing views or not his knowledge is undeniable. Cannot say the same for you, unfortunately.
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RedwoodOriginal said:
I guess you missed the part where I give a damn about what a poster named 'Rizwan T20 Champ' thinks about how objective, or not objective I am

That would be like me caring what the drugged out hobo sleeping on the sidewalk thinks about me
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Sameer has been brilliant so far.... I never thought that he will play like this in his first PSL... He started really well... Both him and his brother are good... Arafat deserves a chance ahead of Nawaz TBH
 
Shamyl Hussain and Sameer Minhas are PJL products
 
Deewana Mastana said:
There's a huge gap in talent between Pakistan and the rest of the world.
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But those young talents are now outperforming the current superstars of the Pakistan team. For years, we were told there were no alternatives. Now, not only are these youngsters scoring more runs but they are doing so at higher strike rates. They deserve to be given opportunities.
 
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