PSL should be about nurturing local talent and giving them a chance

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PSL should be about nurturing local talent and giving them a chance. Some of the players who I am surprised to not see picked for PSL4:<br><br>Hasan Mohsin<br>Kamran Ghulam<br>Saif Badar<br>Zeeshan Malik<br>Arshad Iqbal <br>Mohammad Hasnain<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSLDraft2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSLDraft2018</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1064948911964635138?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[DRsohail]

Why not pick 45 years old and 39 years old who are blessed in all facets of the game.

 

[Greenstorm]

Disappointing really. How does Iftikhar Ahmed manages to find a spot in every season .

 

[Plumb]

The only reason I am interested in PSL is to see which youngster beauty we get lucky with, instead We see expired stuff like......

 

[MenInG]

Why not pick 45 years old and 39 years old who are blessed in all facets of the game.

TBH, I wanted to put my name in also as I am very good person (can't bat or bowl to save my life but then who cares?)

 

[DRsohail]

TBH, I wanted to put my name in also as I am very good person (can't bat or bowl to save my life but then who cares?)

You will definitely bring stability to your team,they will be lucky to pick you LQ missed a huge opportunity.I can just laugh at some posters here.

 

[Mohsin123]

Absolutely pathetic selections by the franchises. First of all PSL should NOT be a launchpad for youngsters to showcase their talent. The transitional process should be from the U19 to domestic to Pakistan A and finally to Pakistan side.
The only benefit I see in the PSL is the financial gain a player can get. The continuous selection of Anwar Ali, Ifikhar Ahmed, Misbah, Kamran Akmal is just atrocious.
The non selected youngsters must not lose heart and continue to perform in the domestics and force Inzi's hand to select them.

 

[Hasan123]

PSL will extend the careers of these oldies. Misbah is 45 and he is still playing in the PSL. Even Kami and Hafeez should be past there expirey date yet they are still key players in there teams.

You can hate on the IPL but they always put Indian talent ahead of oldies and overseas who aren't the elite international players.

 

[JattMaula]

"Nurturing local talent" is not job of t20 franchise cricket. Pakistan has got a domestic system for that.

 

[ameemlutfi]

To be honest, Kamran Ghulam's omission is the only realy surprise.

 

[AliMurtaza]

I understand people are angry on some undeserving selections. However, please keep in mind that this process will involve some bias and connections will pay off. However, for the most part, franchises want to win and they will select players who can deliver on their investment. It is not the job of franchises to nurture talent. If PCB wants, they can extend the number of emerging players and force franchises to play at least 2 emerging players in a match.

Looking at the names mentioned above, they do not have stellar T20 stats. Infact, some have really poor stats. Zeeshan Malik has hardly played any cricket and should not be disheartened on missing out on selection. Arshad Iqbal is young and will get plenty of chances. You can make a case for Hassan Mohsin, Kamran Ghulam, and Saif Badar but others can also present arguments for their non selection.

I feel one player that should have been picked and has not been is Khushdil Shah.

 

[Abdullah719]

I understand people are angry on some undeserving selections. However, please keep in mind that this process will involve some bias and connections will pay off. However, for the most part, franchises want to win and they will select players who can deliver on their investment. It is not the job of franchises to nurture talent. If PCB wants, they can extend the number of emerging players and force franchises to play at least 2 emerging players in a match.

Looking at the names mentioned above, they do not have stellar T20 stats. Infact, some have really poor stats. Zeeshan Malik has hardly played any cricket and should not be disheartened on missing out on selection. Arshad Iqbal is young and will get plenty of chances. You can make a case for Hassan Mohsin, Kamran Ghulam, and Saif Badar but others can also present arguments for their non selection.

I feel one player that should have been picked and has not been is Khushdil Shah.

Zeeshan Malik played in both LQ and IU's talent hunt tournaments last year. He hit three hundreds in those two tournaments. How many young batsmen do we know in Pakistan cricket that score that consistently? The reason why he is disheartened is because of the political nature of the Rawalpindi regional cricket system which has resulted in him playing two T20s only, one in 2016 and one last year. He has mostly been benched despite showing himself worthy of being given chances. Now when he finally did get a decent chance (4 consecutive matches in the One Day Cup), he hit three hundreds at a good strike rate while opening the batting against some teams that have players who have represented Pakistan at the highest level.

Since the Under-19 World Cup, his career has been in limbo. He has every right to feel frustrated.

However, all isn't lost. He has plenty of time left in his career.

Besides this, emerging players are often picked based on talent and ability purely. Zeeshan has performances in his favour as well, unlike the likes of Umair Masood.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Players like Misbah are setting a very bad precedent. I cant believe one can ask for youngsters' inclusion and on the other side support Misbah too.

 

[Executioner]

PSL is not for nurturing potential players 5 years down the line, rather those who are knocking on the door.

Anyways, PSL has too few teams and honestly the quality of foreign players isn't that great. Even BPL has far better foreign rooster than PSL although a lot of decent players like Badree, Morkel, Hafeez, Babar didn't get picked in the draft.

PSL is doing good job hence Pak are no.1 T20I side.

 

[Prashant]

Surprised by the post, if psl is all about young talent then businessmen who invest are fool to invest. They are here to make profits and serve cricket. People who are suprised by exclusion should first become fans of pak cricket, go out in numbers to support them in UAE.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Players like Misbah and Afridi have taken 2 potential spots for youngsters.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Players like Misbah and Afridi have taken 2 potential spots for youngsters.

Yep, Afridi has taken Inzis nephews spot and Misbah took one of Javed Afridi’s Chinese mates.

 

[Markhor]

Why are people so surprised ? I said during last year's PSL that this tournament, to use Saj's phrase, is about "jobs for the boys" with any production of young talent coincidental to the real objective which is to make $$$ for the franchises and board. It's a business not a social enterprise.

What else explains the continuous selection of players who either are nowhere near good enough for international cricket, well past their sell by date, or owe their selection to nepotism ? I expected nothing else before the draft. PSL is the new gravy train that everyone wants a piece of.

Apart from IU, these franchises don't have any clue about young domestic talent. LQ have their developmental programme which is good for their PR but it's NOT the job of franchises to develop players for the Pakistan national team. That's the role of the domestic competitions PCB oversees.

 

[mak36]

Players like Misbah are setting a very bad precedent. I cant believe one can ask for youngsters' inclusion and on the other side support Misbah too.

Just be grateful Razzaq and Nazir weren't selected.

 

[Major]

You guys just dont understand franchise cricket. Some really immature posts in this thread.


PSL is a business for all the franchise. It is not the job of IU, PZ, KK and all other teams to make players for the Pakistan team.

There job is to market its team and brand and attract viewers and sponsors.

2 emerging players are to be selected from which 1 is suppose to be in the 11. This is already being done, and through that process players have been nurtured.

Shadab, Faheem, Hasan Ali and many other players were emerging and now are at platinum level. So thats enough proof of talent being nurtured.

Also, please explain the logic regarding MIsbah and Afridi taking the place of 2 youngters? WEre the both players placed in emerging category? Please be logical.


PSL and every franchise league out there is business, and i dont expect simpletons to understand it.

The Misbah scenario is the best example.

Misbah as a mentor is a great help for any franchise. The guy has single handedly won IU 2 champions because of his player selections. The player the guy wants gets to play in IU. He was an intergal part of that team and he was not gonna leave them.

Thus, as a franchise how do you bring that player in to your team to mentor your players? You look at what the player wants. Misbah wanted to play, thus PZ said ok we will buy in draft and make a deal that you mentor our team.

Javed AFridi himself said that getting Misbah was a long term deal.

IU has been deprived of a mentor because they didn't want him as a player. Now PZ in the long run have got a mentor in their set up that will help their team in future. Misbah was detrimental in getting guys like Faheem, Shadab, Hussain Talat, Asif into IU. And such players could be playing in PZ in future.


PSL is business.

I remember kohli wanting to rest his bowlers in IPL and the IPL franchise said no. They had invested and they wanted a return on investment, to them Team India didn't matter.


As for the guys mentioned in the OP. There will always be players who will be left out. Spots are limited

 

[Major]

Surprised by the post, if psl is all about young talent then businessmen who invest are fool to invest. They are here to make profits and serve cricket. People who are suprised by exclusion should first become fans of pak cricket, go out in numbers to support them in UAE.

this!

as a businessman, my brand would get a better return by having someone like Afridi on board rather then having some unkown guy called Kamran Ghulam playing for me.

Yes Mr. Ghulam might perform, but Afridi is a brand itself, and having him is better for me.

Simple.

 

[Khan12]

Just be grateful Razzaq and Nazir weren't selected.

Boils my blood when I see rubbish players like hafeez being in platinum category.

 

[Xoib]

I don’t mind the likes of Misbah and Afridi there they are brand and bring value to the franchise.Its the PCB responsibility that they ensure emerging talent is getting selected through better rules implementation they have to find a way to ensure Kamran ghulam is selected over Khalid Usman

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Here’s the thing. In PSL, teams don’t revolve around youngsters. Franchises are compelled to pick a bare minimum of two emerging players. That too at the end. If they are picked at the beginning of the draft then the overall team selection will revolve around them.
P.S. Misbah and Afridi are not brands by any stretch of imagination.

 

[Barragan]

It's even more frustrating, when you pick random rookie afghan players.

If you want afghan players, then at least pick stellar names like Rashid or Nabi.

Very disappointed.

 

[Shaka81]

PSL is not about developing talent. It's about picking the best available players to win the tournament. Sadly this is where the PSL fails. There is no meritocracy with some of the players picked.

 

[Dark_Horse]

Why not pick 45 years old and 39 years old who are blessed in all facets of the game.

Add 37 years old one too as captain

 

[MenInG]

LAHORE: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has reportedly declined demands by Pakistan Super League (PSL) franchises to increase their share in income.

As media reports emerged, the cricket governing body and PSL teams’ owners conducted a meeting in order to resolve the issue.

The meeting, presided by PCB chief Ehsan Mani, underwent a stressed environment as a few team owners “threatened to part ways with the league if their demands are not met.”

Just ahead of the fourth edition of the celebrated league, the PCB signed a $14.30 million title sponsorship deal with the Habib Bank Limited (HBL). As per the agreement reached between the board and franchises, both the stakeholders will split the profit.

During the meeting, the owners stressed on their earlier demand of increasing their share in the revenues earned.

The meeting heated up when one of the team owners boycotted the meeting. However, Mani and other PSL officials intervened and calmed the situation down.

PCB also asked the franchises to present their audit books to figure out the exact losses as it believed that “they even had a profit from the first edition.”

Team owners, however, refused to disclose their finances and asked the PCB chief to avoid “bringing matters to the public.”

PCB is also expected to open the tender for PSL broadcasting rights and according to an agreement; the franchises will earn 80% of the revenues while remaining will go to the cricket board.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/11/23/pcb-denies-higher-share-to-psl-franchises/

 

[aukhan]

They are not doing charity. They are investing their millions of rupees. Owners have all the right and reason to select whoever they want to. If they dont believe in certain players than its unfair to critisize them. The talented hard working players you just named should be making their name by performing for their regions or departments. People are expecting franchise based cricket to do what PCB has failed to do over the years. Psl is only about money for players and owners.

 

[Saj]

I'd like to see the emerging player category expanded rather than has-beens who are mates with owners or officials being given a free ride.

 

[Mirpur express]

some of the journeyman foreign cricketers who are given priority over emerging local talent is an absolute joke , some1 needs to raise the issue here , PSL should have 3 local U21 players in the TEAMS for every game not squad , FRANKLY speaking we should have 3 foreign players per squad & 2 per 11

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

LAHORE: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has reportedly declined demands by Pakistan Super League (PSL) franchises to increase their share in income.

As media reports emerged, the cricket governing body and PSL teams’ owners conducted a meeting in order to resolve the issue.

The meeting, presided by PCB chief Ehsan Mani, underwent a stressed environment as a few team owners “threatened to part ways with the league if their demands are not met.”

Just ahead of the fourth edition of the celebrated league, the PCB signed a $14.30 million title sponsorship deal with the Habib Bank Limited (HBL). As per the agreement reached between the board and franchises, both the stakeholders will split the profit.

During the meeting, the owners stressed on their earlier demand of increasing their share in the revenues earned.

The meeting heated up when one of the team owners boycotted the meeting. However, Mani and other PSL officials intervened and calmed the situation down.

PCB also asked the franchises to present their audit books to figure out the exact losses as it believed that “they even had a profit from the first edition.”

Team owners, however, refused to disclose their finances and asked the PCB chief to avoid “bringing matters to the public.”

PCB is also expected to open the tender for PSL broadcasting rights and according to an agreement; the franchises will earn 80% of the revenues while remaining will go to the cricket board.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/11/23/pcb-denies-higher-share-to-psl-franchises/

PCB did the right thing here by subjecting their increase in PSL to the disclosure of financial details.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

In draft:
Reduce silver category from 5 to 4 and, increase emerging category from 2 to 3

In playing 11:
Make it mandatory to play 2 emerging players in the group stage. Allow teams to play just 1 in the knockout stages.

 

[Mirpur express]

I'd like to see the emerging player category expanded rather than has-beens who are mates with owners or officials being given a free ride.

I second that, another idea that you can advocate is a PSL 2/A or a reserve league that runs parallel to the main event

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

The problem here is that PCB has practically outsourced national team selection to private companies. Every time you bring the issue of talented players missing out on PSL you’ll get the same answer. They’ll say that ppl can’t force them to select anyone they don’t want to select because they are private entities. I think they are completely justified to have this position because it’s their money and the can do anything with it (legally of course). The problem here is with PCB. It is their job to nurture local talent and ultimately select them in the national side. Private corporations will not do it for them.
Bring money into first class, list A and national t20 cricket. Prioritise their national team selection based on the performances of first class, list A and national t20 cricket. Most of all, give them enough money to compete with the rest of the world.
Imagine these franchises running domestic cricket!!! It would have been a disaster!!!!

 

[Hedz]

Absolutely pathetic selections by the franchises. First of all PSL should NOT be a launchpad for youngsters to showcase their talent. The transitional process should be from the U19 to domestic to Pakistan A and finally to Pakistan side.
The only benefit I see in the PSL is the financial gain a player can get. The continuous selection of Anwar Ali, Ifikhar Ahmed, Misbah, Kamran Akmal is just atrocious.
The non selected youngsters must not lose heart and continue to perform in the domestics and force Inzi's hand to select them.

Kamran is the highest PSL run scorer tbf

 

[Hedz]

You guys just dont understand franchise cricket. Some really immature posts in this thread.


PSL is a business for all the franchise. It is not the job of IU, PZ, KK and all other teams to make players for the Pakistan team.

There job is to market its team and brand and attract viewers and sponsors.

2 emerging players are to be selected from which 1 is suppose to be in the 11. This is already being done, and through that process players have been nurtured.

Shadab, Faheem, Hasan Ali and many other players were emerging and now are at platinum level. So thats enough proof of talent being nurtured.

Also, please explain the logic regarding MIsbah and Afridi taking the place of 2 youngters? WEre the both players placed in emerging category? Please be logical.


PSL and every franchise league out there is business, and i dont expect simpletons to understand it.

The Misbah scenario is the best example.

Misbah as a mentor is a great help for any franchise. The guy has single handedly won IU 2 champions because of his player selections. The player the guy wants gets to play in IU. He was an intergal part of that team and he was not gonna leave them.

Thus, as a franchise how do you bring that player in to your team to mentor your players? You look at what the player wants. Misbah wanted to play, thus PZ said ok we will buy in draft and make a deal that you mentor our team.

Javed AFridi himself said that getting Misbah was a long term deal.

IU has been deprived of a mentor because they didn't want him as a player. Now PZ in the long run have got a mentor in their set up that will help their team in future. Misbah was detrimental in getting guys like Faheem, Shadab, Hussain Talat, Asif into IU. And such players could be playing in PZ in future.


PSL is business.

I remember kohli wanting to rest his bowlers in IPL and the IPL franchise said no. They had invested and they wanted a return on investment, to them Team India didn't matter.


As for the guys mentioned in the OP. There will always be players who will be left out. Spots are limited

Not taking an Emerging players spot, but taking the spot of someone younger
You take a diamond round pick of a potential younger player, many drop down to gold, where you have more experienced players now, meaning others drop down to silver.

It’s in the silver category where things get interesting, cos now you have gold category players who will most likely be picked over the players originally in silver category. These silver category players are generally younger and some have recently been promoted from Emerging.
So to say it has no effect and they are not taking a youngsters spot is naive, every pick in the draft has a domino effect on the players in that category and coming categories

 

[Saj]

I second that, another idea that you can advocate is a PSL 2/A or a reserve league that runs parallel to the main event

Again a good idea but if does not make money then the people running it won't be interested.

 

[wasimjunior]

You guys just dont understand franchise cricket. Some really immature posts in this thread.


PSL is a business for all the franchise. It is not the job of IU, PZ, KK and all other teams to make players for the Pakistan team.

There job is to market its team and brand and attract viewers and sponsors.

2 emerging players are to be selected from which 1 is suppose to be in the 11. This is already being done, and through that process players have been nurtured.

Shadab, Faheem, Hasan Ali and many other players were emerging and now are at platinum level. So thats enough proof of talent being nurtured.

Also, please explain the logic regarding MIsbah and Afridi taking the place of 2 youngters? WEre the both players placed in emerging category? Please be logical.


PSL and every franchise league out there is business, and i dont expect simpletons to understand it.

The Misbah scenario is the best example.

Misbah as a mentor is a great help for any franchise. The guy has single handedly won IU 2 champions because of his player selections. The player the guy wants gets to play in IU. He was an intergal part of that team and he was not gonna leave them.

Thus, as a franchise how do you bring that player in to your team to mentor your players? You look at what the player wants. Misbah wanted to play, thus PZ said ok we will buy in draft and make a deal that you mentor our team.

Javed AFridi himself said that getting Misbah was a long term deal.

IU has been deprived of a mentor because they didn't want him as a player. Now PZ in the long run have got a mentor in their set up that will help their team in future. Misbah was detrimental in getting guys like Faheem, Shadab, Hussain Talat, Asif into IU. And such players could be playing in PZ in future.


PSL is business.

I remember kohli wanting to rest his bowlers in IPL and the IPL franchise said no. They had invested and they wanted a return on investment, to them Team India didn't matter.


As for the guys mentioned in the OP. There will always be players who will be left out. Spots are limited

This post is wrong on so many levels. Islamabad’s player scouting was done by their managers.

One of them spotted shadab in under 19 colours. Misbah has zero to do with it and him going to PZ Will have no bearing.

Misbah also didn’t win anything single handedly. He was hands down the worst player in the side last year and kept out deserving players.

 

[Major]

This post is wrong on so many levels. Islamabad’s player scouting was done by their managers.

One of them spotted shadab in under 19 colours. Misbah has zero to do with it and him going to PZ Will have no bearing.

Misbah also didn’t win anything single handedly. He was hands down the worst player in the side last year and kept out deserving players.

oh bhai, i have been following this team from day 1.

Know alot about them.

No one spotted SHadab at u19 level.

There was a pentengular cup where Misbah and Shadab made a big partnership, ever since then Misbah not only got him a SNGPL contract but vouched for his name at United.

Faheem Ashraf has been a very regular member of Faisalabad wolves

And as for Asif Ali, Misbah always vouched for his name in the t20 squad.

 

[Saj]

his post is wrong on so many levels. Islamabad’s player scouting was done by their managers.

One of them spotted shadab in under 19 colours.

This is incorrect. Shadab was part of the Pakistan A squad in England a few years ago in 2016 and was already on the radar and was not spotted miraculously out the blue by anyone at IU.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Psl should be a money cow to inject it in much needed areas where equipment and coaching is not available