PTI retains NA-4 seat from Peshawar [Update Post #87]

[waqar goraya]

There are four NA seats in Peshawar an PTI was weak on this seat so this is actually a very good sign...

Heard ANP candidate on this seat is already in talks with PTI and will be given MPA ticket in 2018 elections.

The following article appears biased and one sided. Seldom i see a news item criticizing a party so much but the so called insider has some weight to its choices.

AFTER remaining in power for four years, the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is going for `electables` and turncoats as the recent joining of Arbab Najeebullah Khalil and others suggests.

`Is this the case of PTI evaluating its prospects in the next general elections, fearing it may not be as relevant to voters after five years in power,` analysts question. And what implications will it have for Imran Khan`s image and PTI if the induction of turncoats in the party continues? Prof Hussain Shaheed Soherwordi said that PTI slogans were to break status quo, end corruption, replicate Shaukat Khanum Memorial Cancer Hospital and Research Centre model in health system and change class-based education system.

`If the party materialises these slogans, then it would be a revolution, but it did not happen when we look into four years performance of the party, he said.

Prof Soherwordi, who is teaching international relations in University of Peshawar, said that after four years in power, PTI failed to improve health system and end corruption. `1ts government brought a little bit improvement in education,` he added.

The entry of turncoats and electables in the party particularly in KP has worried diehard supporters of PTI. They said that the party might not look for winning horses for the next elections if performance of the MPAs and ministers was satisfactory.

`Our MPAs and ministers did not come up to the expectations of the party and people of KP,` said one insider, adding that entry of turncoats was tarnishing image of the party and chairman. It was also a fact that with the existing team PTI would hardly retain its position in KP in the next elections, he added.

`The party has decided in principle that 80 per cent of the sitting MPAs of KP Assembly will not be awarded tickets for the next general elections, said the insider.

Similarly, he said, sitting MNAs from Peshawarwould not qualify for National Assembly tickets and they would be offered provincial assembly tickets, because of their `performance.

According to the source, the party is likely to award ticket to Shaukat Ali for NA-1 in the next elections. Shaukat Ali hadquit PPP and joined PTL Arbab Najeebullah Khalil, who left ANP recently, is a strong contender for NA-2 ticket and he may replace the sitting MNA, Hamidul Haq.

Former PPP MNA Noor Alam Khan, who also made entry in PTI, will be the candidate from NA-3 while Arbab Mohammad Amir, who also left ANP, will get ticket for NA-4.

Prominent figure from Karak district Fareed Toofan, who changed many parties in the recent past, also joined PTL The party is making efforts to bring maximum number of turncoats into its folds before elections. Chief Minister Pervez Khattak made botched attempts to bring his old comrade and stalwart of PPP from Peshawar Syed Zahir Ali Shah to PTI.

Like Mutahidda Majlis-i-Amal, a conglomerate of religious parties, stunning result in KP in 2002, PTI also swept polls in 2013. The party won all four National Assembly seats and 10 of the 11 seats of provincial assembly from Peshawar.

Imran`s charisma was major factor in the landslide victory of PTI in the previous general elections. Imran is still popular among the voters, particularly the young lot. But Imran`s magnet may not work in KP in the upcoming elections.

Pervez Khattak and his team `unimpressed performance` have baffled people, who had given vote to PTI for change. `As far as Imran Khan is concerned, we still expect that he can deliver, but the party`s ministers, MPAs and MNAs have disappointed people,` said Mohammad Raban, a PTI worker from NA-3 Peshawar.

`I am still great admirer of Imran and never miss his public meetings, but may not give vote to the party if the sitting MPA is awarded ticket in the next elections,` said Adil Khan, a worker of PTI from Sikandar Garhi.

PTI MPA Qurban Ali Khan said that the party leadership had lost ideology and manifesto to bring change in the system. He said that on the one hand the party was making tall claims of change while on the other hand turncoats were being inducted.

`I told Imran Khan that PTI is doing the same what other political parties were doing. If team`s performance is good there is no need for bringing electables to the party,` said Mr Khan. He added that leadership was confusing people through such tactics.

Prof Soherwordi said that with the passing of time, people realised that PTI became the stereotype party like other political parties and had started betting on winning horses to win next elections.

https://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=26_10_2017_007_004

 

[Waseem]

There are four NA seats in Peshawar an PTI was weak on this seat so this is actually a very good sign...

Heard ANP candidate on this seat is already in talks with PTI and will be given MPA ticket in 2018 elections.

Lol career politicians, as IK always says "In k aanay ya janay se koi faraq nahi parta". There were news about him withdrawing in PTI favour just days before elections

Ideally, MPA ticket should go to new candidate rather than these opportunists.

 

[Black Zero]

Title cqn be updated as Pti has won the seat...with 45+k votes
2nd and 3rd got 24+k

 

[Alamgeer]

Title cqn be updated as Pti has won the seat...with 45+k votes
2nd and 3rd got 24+k

Or it can be uodated as majority of voters in peshawer voted against pti. Almost 60 percent of casted votes went against pti.

 

[Black Zero]

Or it can be uodated as majority of voters in peshawer voted against pti. Almost 60 percent of casted votes went against pti.

Definitely not the case as on ballot you vote FOR and not vote AGAINST.

So your proposal would not be accurate.

 

[WebGuru]

Or it can be uodated as majority of voters in peshawer voted against pti. Almost 60 percent of casted votes went against pti.

Definitely not the case as on ballot you vote FOR and not vote AGAINST.

So your proposal would not be accurate.

PMLN is sitting in center with 32% vote in 2013 elections.

 

[Strike!]

PTI retains NA-4 seat from Peshawar

PESHAWAR: The Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) on Thursday succeeded in retaining its National Assembly seat from Peshawar, leading all its opponents by a clear margin.

PTI candidate Arbab Amir Ayub bagged 45,734 votes, Awami National Party’s Khusdil Khan 24,874 votes which was followed by Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz’s Nasir Khan Musazai with 24,790 votes.

Among others, Asad Gulzar Khan of the Pakistan Peoples Party secured 13,200 votes while Tehreek-e-Labbaik’s Allama Dr Mohammad Shafique Ameeni bagged 9,935 and Jamaat-e-Islami’s Wasil Farooq Jan 7,668. In the general elections 2013, Jan had secured the third position.
“I thank the Pakistan Army for a peaceful election,” PTI’s Ayub told media-persons outside his house. “The PTI has proven itself against other political parties.”

Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Chief Minister Pervez Khattak congratulated the winning candidate and said the victory “reflects the political maturity of the people of Peshawar”.

The polling kicked off at around 8:30am in almost all 269 polling stations of the constituency. To ensure 100% women participation in the polling, all parties tried to bring women to the polling stations. However, the Free and Fair Election Network (Fafen) put the women’s turnout at 13.8% as against 41.3% men.

A total of 14 candidates were in the run for the NA-4 seat that had fallen vacant after the death of PTI’s MNA Gulzar Khan.

No major incidents of violence were reported; however, political parties accused each other of influencing the voters by using the state machinery.

“We have battled it out with the federal and provincial governments,” said ANP candidate Khushdil Khan, who accused the police of being partial.

Sufficient essential polling material – including ballot boxes, secrecy screens, seals, indelible ink and voters’ lists – was available at majority of the polling stations.

At least four people were arrested for displaying weapons around the polling stations.

Well-managed elections

The Fafen termed the NA-4 by-election well-managed and peaceful, with only suspicious voting patterns at 10 polling stations.

The Fafen report stated that its observers were restricted from entry into 10% of polling stations by security personnel.

The ECP also used Electronic Voting Machines (EVMs) in 35 out of 269 polling stations on pilot basis.

About the EVMs, the report read that no secrecy of casting votes was ensured in 26 out of 35 polling stations where the EVMs were used. “Overall, observers reported no technical glitch in the EVMs.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1541728/1-polling-underway-in-na-4/

TLP getting so many votes is definitely concerning, but as long as they are damaging N league's vote bank, I don't care.

 

[WebGuru]

Wow massive crowd in dir jasla... What happened to dir? Dir was always a stronghold of JI

 

[Syed1]

Or it can be uodated as majority of voters in peshawer voted against pti. Almost 60 percent of casted votes went against pti.

Chup

 

[Black Zero]

It's a good win for PTI as NA-4 also include big rural area...which means that PTI should win easily in other Peshawar constituencies as those are mostly urban.

Charm for IK is still very much alive.

however now JI/PPP/ANP would have adjust.

 

[WebGuru]

It's a good win for PTI as NA-4 also include big rural area...which means that PTI should win easily in other Peshawar constituencies as those are mostly urban.

Charm for IK is still very much alive.

however now JI/PPP/ANP would have adjust.

The interesting point to note is PTI is getting popular in conservative districts where they didn't enjoyed much success in 2013. Dir, Buner etc

Lamha-e-Fiqrya for JI and Siraj

 

[Syed1]

The interesting point to note is PTI is getting popular in conservative districts where they didn't enjoyed much success in 2013. Dir, Buner etc

Lamha-e-Fiqrya for JI and Siraj

How many seats does FATA have... I'm sure PTI will manage majority of seats there as well if FATA is merged with KPK.

 

[WebGuru]

How many seats does FATA have... I'm sure PTI will manage majority of seats there as well if FATA is merged with KPK.

11 MNAs from FATA (Starting from NA36 to NA-47)

6 of them are Independent, 3 from PMLN, 1 from PTI and 1 from JUI-F

After the merger FATA will add many MPA seats to KP at least 20+

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] u would have ssen pti power show in my home town today.....things are changing rapidly.

 

[WebGuru]

[MENTION=133397]WebGuru[/MENTION] u would have ssen pti power show in my home town today.....things are changing rapidly.

Amazing show in upper dir really impressive! What's the situation in lower dir any idea?

 

[DRsohail]

Wow massive crowd in dir jasla... What happened to dir? Dir was always a stronghold of JI

donnt take my comments lightly.lolz.i have said u we will win NA4 and we did,i told u pti is getting stronger in lower and upper dir and proved today..lower dir MNA is pti seat to lose take my words in upper dir looks defficlt.but can grab MPA seat if they get sahibzada sanaullah to tehir party who is joint ppp.pmln and anp MPA now.

 

[WebGuru]

IIRC correctly JI won both seats in their stronghold DIR but i can see them losing at least one seat in 2018.

 

[DRsohail]

Amazing show in upper dir really impressive! What's the situation in lower dir any idea?

lower dir is all about pti thei national assembly seat and 2 mpa seats to lose i will say they lost with 1000 margin last time and this time they have grabbed many personalities,..

 

[WebGuru]

donnt take my comments light.lolz.i have said u we will win NA4 and we did,i told u pti is getting stronger in lower and upper dir and proved today..lower dir MNA is pti seat to lose take my words in upper dir looks defficlt.but can grab MPA seat if they get sahibzada sanaullah to tehir party who is joint ppp.pmln and anp MPA now.

I see thanks for ground report bro!

 

[WebGuru]

lower dir is all about pti thei national assembly seat and 2 mpa seats to lose i will say they lost with 1000 margin last time and this time they have grabbed many personalities,..

It's really interesting that PTI is getting popular in known conservative districts of KP. Mullah Fazlu is also in need of an alliance to rescue him otherwise PTI will make sure to bury his politics in DI Khan.

 

[WebGuru]

The following article appears biased and one sided. Seldom i see a news item criticizing a party so much but the so called insider has some weight to its choices.



https://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=26_10_2017_007_004

Thanks for sharing this article bro good to see PTI leadership doing research there instead of just betting on same winning candidates for 2018 GE.

 

[DRsohail]

It's really interesting that PTI is getting popular in known conservative districts of KP. Mullah Fazlu is also in need of an alliance to rescue him otherwise PTI will make sure to bury his politics in DI Khan.

ji is done and dusted but i think jui has some spark,they have done some work in southern districts with the help of NS>

 

[Black Zero]

The interesting point to note is PTI is getting popular in conservative districts where they didn't enjoyed much success in 2013. Dir, Buner etc

Lamha-e-Fiqrya for JI and Siraj

Reason could be growing population hence young and new/young voters. in any case, JI losing appeal country wide. May be JI should pick some young leader (under 35) to woe young voters.

 

[saeedhk]

Imran Khan said that first phase of ticket announcement will be made in 2 weeks. They have been doing a lot of work on ticket distribution for almost a year now so things will surely be lot different. A lot of Independent runner ups from 2013 elections have joined PTI in addition to electables.

PTI will need to make alliances to make a government otherwise no chance.

Yes. The PTI may probably make alliances with MQM-P in Urban Sindh & Karachi and with TuQ's party in Punjab.
Musharraf has said that he will make alliances with every party against PPP and PML-N in GE 2018. Also, if the PTI is able to convince the PML-Q to join hands, it can win many seats in Punjab.

 

[Black Zero]

Yes. The PTI may probably make alliances with MQM-P in Urban Sindh & Karachi and with TuQ's party in Punjab.
Musharraf has said that he will make alliances with every party against PPP and PML-N in GE 2018. Also, if the PTI is able to convince the PML-Q to join hands, it can win many seats in Punjab.

Pml-Q == qatil league

 

[WebGuru]

Pml-Q == qatil league

Zardari and PPP labeled them as Qatil league and thn made Pervez Ellahi deputy PM

 

[Bewal Express]

Zardari and PPP labeled them as Qatil league and thn made Pervez Ellahi deputy PM

How dare you, that doesnt count.

 

[Waseem]

Zardari and PPP labeled them as Qatil league and thn made Pervez Ellahi deputy PM

Not only that, Nawaz ran a whole campaign against PMLQ and accused PTI of becoming PMLQ and then ended up giving 100 tickets to ex PMLQ members and today have almost a dozen ministers/advisers from PMLQ.

There is anti PPP alliance being formed in Sindh (GDA), PTI can do seat adjustment with them for rural Sindh and ANY parties winning from Khi/Hyd (MQM, PSP)

In Punjab, there is hardly any option but to do seat adjustment with PMLQ?

In KPK, they should go solo unless ANP/PPP/PMLN/JUIF form an alliance, PTI may need JI support in that case which i personally don't prefer as they have too big of ego for a useless party and i sincerely hope we won't need them in KPK post 2018 so PTI can implement plans without their interference.

Balochistan is fine as most agree to form alliance whoever gets more seats at federal level.

PTI needs some strong plan for Gujranwala, Faisalabad, Okara.

 

[Waseem]

TLP getting so many votes is definitely concerning, but as long as they are damaging N league's vote bank, I don't care.

TLP types won't last for too long, they are riding on propaganda campaign after Mumtaz Qadri hanging. They mostly snatched JI/JUIF votes and they will probably grab 4-5k votes in some constituencies but they will disappear after 2018 elections. As much as i dislike Zardari league, it's kind of sad they are getting as much or less votes than these useless religious parties (thanks to so called genius Zardari).

 

[Strike!]

TLP types won't last for too long, they are riding on propaganda campaign after Mumtaz Qadri hanging. They mostly snatched JI/JUIF votes and they will probably grab 4-5k votes in some constituencies but they will disappear after 2018 elections. As much as i dislike Zardari league, it's kind of sad they are getting as much or less votes than these useless religious parties (thanks to so called genius Zardari).

How will they disappear after 2018? I don't see blasphemy issue dying out just yet.

 

[WebGuru]

Not only that, Nawaz ran a whole campaign against PMLQ and accused PTI of becoming PMLQ and then ended up giving 100 tickets to ex PMLQ members and today have almost a dozen ministers/advisers from PMLQ.

There is anti PPP alliance being formed in Sindh (GDA), PTI can do seat adjustment with them for rural Sindh and ANY parties winning from Khi/Hyd (MQM, PSP)

In Punjab, there is hardly any option but to do seat adjustment with PMLQ?

In KPK, they should go solo unless ANP/PPP/PMLN/JUIF form an alliance, PTI may need JI support in that case which i personally don't prefer as they have too big of ego for a useless party and i sincerely hope we won't need them in KPK post 2018 so PTI can implement plans without their interference.

Balochistan is fine as most agree to form alliance whoever gets more seats at federal level.

PTI needs some strong plan for Gujranwala, Faisalabad, Okara.

PTI is in talks with PMLQ but Chaudharies are asking too much and that's not possible for PTI to give those many seats to PMLQ. JI always act like Munafiqs and always do the damage when their allies are down so PTI should make sure we don't need them in KP after 2018.

 

[Waseem]

How will they disappear after 2018? I don't see blasphemy issue dying out just yet.

Qadri is their cash cow for now but this will fade away after not being able to win a seat in 2018 elections. Religious parties only get 5-10k votes in most constituencies which will be split between JI, JUIF and other couple of small scale parties.

 

[WebGuru]

Typical PML-N for you...