Public eating banned in Pakistan

[LastManstanding]

completely agree

However how a nation presents itself matters, and they should be judged against that.

Its why people get more annoyed at America doing dodgy stuff in the world as compared to Russia. Russia doesnt pontificate on 'freedom' to the same extent, nor do they have some bs concept like manfiest destiny

I disagree. A nation is judged by how it treats it's minorities rather than how it tries to present itself to the outside world.

Just because s country hasn't declared itself secular doesn't absolve it of the discrimination against minorities. I could argue that people of such countries are hypocrites who don't want to change the status quo in their country but don't waste any opportunity to slam other countries for the problems faces by minorities there.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Good to see though you supporting them considering it doesn't matter,surely the leftist Indians can take a leaf out of your thought and hopefully stop bothering everyone with beef issues.

I didn't say I support them, I said that their reputation remains intact with the rest of the world. As for India, if they want to ban beef or celebrate beefburger festivals it's of no concern to me. Just make your mind up if you are secular or not and then go whichever way suits best.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

I disagree. A nation is judged by how it treats it's minorities rather than how it tries to present itself to the outside world.

Just because s country hasn't declared itself secular doesn't absolve it of the discrimination against minorities. I could argue that people of such countries are hypocrites who don't want to change the status quo in their country but don't waste any opportunity to slam other countries for the problems faces by minorities there.

nowhere did i say they should be exclusively judged on how they present themselves, just that the values they ponfiicate shouldnt be forgetten.

second as as i said in earlier posts here, nothing justifies the treatment of minorites in Pakistan or this stupid law.

my point was a far broader one

 

[Square Drive]

Overall it may not be a good law.

However, the fine for smoking in Ramadan makes sense because that may affect the fast of others as well, that too in a harmful way.

 

[big_gamer007]

How can it be throughout the year?

lol why would it be throughout the year

stupid law. prolly wont be even implemented

Lol was just wondering you never know what crazy things politicians can come up with..

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes Sir. I spent a week there in Ramadan three years ago and I was already warned by my relative there prior to arrival in Dubai. Since I was not fasting because of very hot weather and I couldn't find anything to eat during day time.

You didn't try hard enough . Food courts are still open, they even have signs saying for Non Muslims etc. It's not how you claim.


The OP's assertion this ban equates to the bans in France and India is incorrect. I don#t think this ban is aimed at the minority non muslim population. France is openly targeting Muslims and India's ban is aimed mainly at non Hindu's.

Bhutto's tweets are hillarious. Will police really lock up a small child for drinking water? Will people really start dying on the streets of Pakistan? If you know you're not well, you will eat instead of dying and you can eat at home. Not that I think this type of ban is a good thing.

 

[MABA]

Pakistani's love being the so called "thaekedars" of Islam. The recent upsurge in the blasphemy accusations and this dumb law is showing the extremist mentality which has swept a large chunk of the country.

 

[90MPH]

Pakistani's love being the so called "thaekedars" of Islam. The recent upsurge in the blasphemy accusations and this dumb law is showing the extremist mentality which has swept a large chunk of the country.

Agree, ridiculous laws being passed that don't make any sense.

Hopefully though the Police will have other priorities rather than watching out on who's eating or not.

 

[90MPH]

Just to add this is nothing but political point scoring by these two faced Nora party.

Never trusted these snakes.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Yes there was. Ehteram e Ramzan ordinance has been on the books for years. Every ramzan people get arrested or beat up by the police for eating in public during fasting hours.

It rears its ugly head every Ramzan and remains a big deal for the whole month before fading into obscurity till the next Ramzan. When I say big deal, i mean that it has a visible impact. A few years ago Islamabad police beat up two journalists who were eating in their car in a secluded place(near Daman e Koh) and it made the news but public response was mostly against the journos. It doesn't get much attention because the public, for the most part, supports such laws.

That's the default setting for a majority in Pakistan. Support fascism at home, oppose it abroad unless its in a Muslim state in which case it's all good.

1. When Mohammad Pbuh was the Head of Islamic State of Medina than was there any such Law in place for Muslims who don’t fast or Non Muslims who eat publicly ?


2. Is there any reported incidence where state ordered punishing a person for eating in public ? (From those times)


3. If any such untoward sad incidence in private capacity took place than what did State do to the Culprit ? (From those times)


Please Educate me from Islamic history aswell as history from Neutral Non Muslim Writers.

 

[DW44]

1. When Mohammad Pbuh was the Head of Islamic State of Medina than was there any such Law in place for Muslims who don’t fast or Non Muslims who eat publicly ?


2. Is there any reported incidence where state ordered punishing a person for eating in public ? (From those times)


3. If any such untoward sad incidence in private capacity took place than what did State do to the Culprit ? (From those times)


Please Educate me from Islamic history aswell as history from Neutral Non Muslim Writers.

I don't really care one way or the other about what happened back then since I don't believe in Islam and, as such, whether or not the people you refer to did or didn't do what you're saying is irrelevant to me. It doesn't change my opinions on the matter one bit. I respect that you have your own views which I have no interest in changing so this is a debate I'm not about to engage in because if it comes down to a debate over how just or unjust the laws of the time and their enforcement was, I can't really say much without running into Soviet levels of censorship as you very well know from our past discussions on the subject.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

ExpressPacer Aap dekh lein international disgrace

 

[Hamza_]

ExpressPacer Aap dekh lein international disgrace

This will never be over turned now. We should all agree that Pakistan is in such situation due to it's own mistakes. We are not victims.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

This will never be over turned now. We should all agree that Pakistan is in such situation due to it's own mistakes. We are not victims.

Anti Zia'ism, Anti Maududi'ism, Anti Mahmudi'ism, Anti Bukhari'ism is needed.

 

[ExpressPacer]

ExpressPacer Aap dekh lein international disgrace

Bhai, posts mei tag kar dia karo.

And yeah, very disappointing but expected. Completely absurd that we have these type of laws.

 

[Hamza_]

Anti Zia'ism, Anti Maududi'ism, Anti Mahmudi'ism, Anti Bukhari'ism is needed.

Zia made irrecoverable damage to Pakistan I think. Biggest culprit in our history

 

[PakLFC]

It is absolutely ridiculous. They are forcing people to fast especially non Muslim's who have their own beliefs. Such things only make Pakistan look stupid in front of the world. Even Muslim's should be allowed to eat during Ramzan if they choose not to fast. It is a personal choice, next they will be forcing men to grow Islamic beards or ladies to wear niqab.