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Quinton de Kock - Unhyped and Underrated; Another Saeed Anwar in the making?

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Take a bow son, what an innings :14:

So many hyped cricketers in the world over the last 4 years. We hyped guys like Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad etc etc who went from boom to bust.

And here is this kid, QdK. Who went from bust to boom. Had an ordinary start to his international career, which was catalyzed after a matchwinning 100 against us and then a few more vs India.

Has the technique, the hunger, in terms of which he reminds me a lot of Saeed Anwar. Wristy and classy on ocassion like Anwar, and finally exhibiting Anwar's ability of big hundreds. Only difference is the facial hair.

Eerie resemblance of Anwar's 194, I hope he gets to complete this innings though.

Man.. wish Sarfraz or Rizwan turn into half the wickie batsman this guy is.
 
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Who didn't rate De Kock? De Kock is quite popular atleast here in Bangladesh. Absolutely soothing to the eyes
 
Gyani_Baba said:
We Indians not really a fan of him after the phainty he gave to our fiery pacers.
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Well since you guys got phainty from De Kock with 3 back to back centuries I would believe plenty of Indians rated him highliy 3 centuries back to back at the age of 20, marvelous
 
I'm not sure that he is underhyped. He was a beast during his U19 days - quite possibly the most dominant U19 batsman ever - and there were a lot of expectations from him when he made his international debut. He took a while to get going but then eventually showed what he is capable of. He suffered a hiccup last year and got owned by Bangladesh and in particular Mustafizur and was dropped but came back strongly against India albeit against a much weaker bowling attack. This innings, however, has shown that he is definitely a superstar in the making.
 
I always admire when he walks to the crease.
He is one of good batsman of this era but don't know what lacks in him to creat "that" spark for him but I can say for sure he will see lot's of achievement in his career not end up like garbage we have.

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Suleiman said:
Take a bow son, what an innings :14:

So many hyped cricketers in the world over the last 4 years. We hyped guys like Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad etc etc who went from boom to bust.

And here is this kid, QdK. Who went from bust to boom. Had an ordinary start to his international career, which was catalyzed after a matchwinning 100 against us and then a few more vs India.

Has the technique, the hunger, in terms of which he reminds me a lot of Saeed Anwar. Wristy and classy on ocassion like Anwar, and finally exhibiting Anwar's ability of big hundreds. Only difference is the facial hair.

Eerie resemblance of Anwar's 194, I hope he gets to complete this innings though.

Man.. wish Sarfraz or Rizwan turn into half the wickie batsman this guy is.
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Great thread bro and am so glad you created it! I have been a huge mark for this guy ever since he debut, he's the silent baby faced assasin. Never gets enough credit and until now hasn't inspired the confidence of various folk higher up in SA. I hope he is treated with respect and invested in because the kid does the business on the pitch, beautiful keeper batsman. It has been years and not one keeper has done enough in Pakistan to make the selectors forget about Kamran Akmal never mind Saeed Anwar.
 
Actually he doesn't have a great technique but neither did Saeed Anwar (since you mentioned him) but we know how good he was on his day.

De kock actually reminds me a bit of Lara, his high back lift means he's ready for both front and back foot shots. Just Amazing hand eye player basically and he will do very well for years to come as long as picks the ball early.
 
I am his fan since his debut vs pak.I knew he will come good.I rate him very highly definitely one of the best in Odis.He has bright future ahead of him Good luck to him
 
He has gone somewhat unnoticed because he has not performed in tests and failed to make an impact on the bigger stages
 
wth why did mods remove "unbroken" from the title..? that's what made it epic.. he was left stranded on 138* with rain pouring down his face and pressure accelerating as the required run rate climbed to 9+. That is the utter definition of "unbroken" :facepalm:
 
He has long way to go but seems like a very handy opener for SA in future.
 
Well, no body under ated him, and every one know his love for team India [MENTION=135445]Strike Rate[/MENTION]
 
Still have my doubts about him as a test keeper/number 7 but as plenty have said who didn't rate him as a odi batsman?
 
Suleiman said:
Take a bow son, what an innings :14:

So many hyped cricketers in the world over the last 4 years. We hyped guys like Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad etc etc who went from boom to bust.

And here is this kid, QdK. Who went from bust to boom. Had an ordinary start to his international career, which was catalyzed after a matchwinning 100 against us and then a few more vs India.

Has the technique, the hunger, in terms of which he reminds me a lot of Saeed Anwar. Wristy and classy on ocassion like Anwar, and finally exhibiting Anwar's ability of big hundreds. Only difference is the facial hair.

Eerie resemblance of Anwar's 194, I hope he gets to complete this innings though.

Man.. wish Sarfraz or Rizwan turn into half the wickie batsman this guy is.
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give him or any other new emerging wanabe star player the same bats that were used during those legends era and see who is becoming who
 
In shorter formats he is very good.

But if he keeps in all format , it will take a toll on him.

Better to give him break , and get different keeper in test matches.
 
Love watchin him bat. Will become firs South african with ODI double hundred and will end up scoring the most number of ODI tons for his country
 
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Hint of pressure in an important game and he loses it completely.

Just needs to work on his mind.

Great talent though.
 
Why do people start making or start drawing comparisons with other quality players all of a sudden when a relatively new one starts doing well.
 
Did you guys see his six over square leg?

Looked just like Saeed bhai. Will do a side by side gif analysis when I get the chance from that 1987 world domination series in Australia.

Great player shame he is not in PSL.
 
Quinton de Kock’s career-best performance in the first Momentum One-Day International (ODI) against England at the Mangaung Oval on Wednesday was an encouraging sign of the youngsters coming of age in the Castle Lager Proteas’ setup. Of the nine ODI centuries he has scored in his 53-match career, Wednesday evening’s was the first to be scored batting second, and in a high pressure chase, which he timed to perfection before the rain set in. *

This hundred followed his maiden Test century in the fourth Sunfoil Test against England at Centurion last week, where he marshalled the tail with maturity and calm temperament to help set up a big first innings total. He has always played with freedom and aggression, which is his natural game, but has also found a measured approach to play the situation accordingly*

“I enjoyed my innings,” De Kock, who also became the youngest (23 and 48 days) South African player to score 2000 ODI runs said. “I haven’t scored a hundred like that in a while so it was nice to stay in. Unfortunately with the rain I couldn’t carry the team. I would have liked to have done that but I’m sure I will get plenty of more opportunities.

“It was touch and go but pushing to England’s side,” he said when asked who had the upper hand. “We would have loved to have won but it was a steep total. We would have done our best to get there if the rain hadn’t come down.”

The 23-year-old waited nine matches to score his maiden ODI hundred, which came against Pakistan in Abu Dhabi 2013. Thereafter, he scored four centuries in the next 10 ODI’s, including three in a row against India at home. Despite the struggles with form in the longer format earlier this season, he has managed to make significant contributions in the ODI format and has become a vital component of the opening partnership alongside Hashim Amla.

The Proteas arrived in Port Elizabeth on Thursday afternoon, and will hope for a similar effort with the bat as they prepare for the second ODI taking place at St George’s Park on Saturday. Conditions in the ‘windy city’ are unlikely to be as batting friendly as those in Bloemfontein, but the batsmen will take some confidence from their experiences in the first ODI.
 
Another superhuman performance underway.

Amla has found someone to Lean On - Major Lazer style.

What a talented kid. Will be the star to watch in the world t20. best left handed opener for the past 8 years for me.
 
Looking incredible right now. Hasn't even tried to slog yet.
 
He's the South African Brian Lara when it comes to One day cricket.

Very difficult customer to bowl to once he's set.
 
The kid was bound to be great on non-spinning pitches.
It's because he always catapulted spectacularly whenever there is hint of spin is the reason he is underrated.
 
terrific ODI prospect.. I have my doubts regarding him against spin in test.. His footwork looks bit too rigid.. will have to wait
 
India basher and very inconsistent so far.

Needs to do perform against top sides consistently. Not a bad prospect.
 
Hawkeye said:
India basher and very inconsistent so far.

Needs to do perform against top sides consistently. Not a bad prospect.
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Inconsistent ?

Only 10 odi hundreds & 5 odi fifties in 55 odis at an Ave of 44 & SR of 93. At the age of 23.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Inconsistent ?

Only 10 odi hundreds & 5 odi fifties in 55 odis at an Ave of 44 & SR of 93. At the age of 23.
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Exclude India and England (3 inns): Average drops to 32!

He's not bad like I said, but to be considered world class, he'd have to perform against other sides too. Needs performances against top bowling, not just numbers.
 
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Under-pressure chasing a huge total and he didn't falter. Beautiful innings. He's a work in progress but has already achieved quite a bit, youth is on his side to and will only improve from here. Exciting times!
 
My boy scored a ton today for the doomed to failure Delhi Daredevils to beat Virat and his men.

He by himself will carry Delhi to IPL playoffs.

Chasing 190 in a massive stadium with a lot of hostile spectators, and this guy pulled it off in such cool fashion. Only clutch SAF player alive at the moment.

He's a better LOI batsman than :amla truth be told. [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION], do you have the highlights please?
 
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Suleiman said:
My boy scored a ton today for the doomed to failure Delhi Daredevils to beat Virat and his men.

He by himself will carry Delhi to IPL playoffs.

Chasing 190 in a massive stadium with a lot of hostile spectators, and this guy pulled it off in such cool fashion. Only clutch SAF player alive at the moment.

He's a better LOI batsman than :amla truth be told. [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION], do you have the highlights please?
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He performs very well in India and did amazing yesterday,but the highlighted part is absolute crap the stadium is neither "massive" and the crowd isn't hostile.
 
JaDed said:
He performs very well in India and did amazing yesterday,but the highlighted part is absolute crap the stadium is neither "massive" and the crowd isn't hostile.
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No body is forcing anyone to play in "hostile" conditions (at least in IPL)

Thank God! Pakistani cricketers are spared from playing in this "extreme hostile conditions" (both IPL and bilaterals)
 
Quinton De Kock is a form player. This batsmen goes from looking absolutely hopeless when out of form to truly ATG like when he is in form.

Yesterday, he mishit, missed or edged only two balls (one of which was his dismissal) absolutely perfect innings, and he's been in such form for a while now since his comeback to Tests against England.

His temperament and confidence are very dodgy and I am appalled at a player saying "I am so glad I was dropped from that tour, it saved my career". I know AB wouldn't have ever felt that way, or any of the other greats.

Still his natural talent is superb.
 
Suleiman said:
My boy scored a ton today for the doomed to failure Delhi Daredevils to beat Virat and his men.

He by himself will carry Delhi to IPL playoffs.

Chasing 190 in a massive stadium with a lot of hostile spectators, and this guy pulled it off in such cool fashion. Only clutch SAF player alive at the moment.

He's a better LOI batsman than :amla truth be told. [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION], do you have the highlights please?
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DD is a very strong side this year. People will be forced to realize it soon. Morris, Negi, Brathwaite are superb hitters and with JP, Shreyas Iyer and QDK at the top they can chase down big targets very easily.
 
To be honest (not taking credit away from him), the RCB bowlers were totally crap! They were bowling lengths after lengths and were giving too much width also (It was almost like playing to the opposition) Not even one bowler tried to bowl yorkers/full length, and they were not even trying to tuck in to the body. At least they didn't target the batsman at the other end who was slow to start with (and gradually gained confidence).

If nobody was able to bowl full length (even Watson), Kohli should have tried Gayle (whom I have seen bowling even in death overs in some matches). I think Kohli will flop as a captain like Sachin (worse than Sachin). He seems to lose all his cool when the team is under pressure (He fairs as a player while chasing because he is at least 50% in control/responsible of the situation as a batsman though he is dependent also on the non-striker). He seems to get upset at bowlers' inabilities. Only aggression isn't going to help in captaincy, we need cool head and resource-handling capacities of Dhoni/Ganguly.
 
he's hardly underrated or unhyped so dont know where OP gets this assertion from.

Seems to love Indian bowlers btw
 
He is an amazing talent. Matured early. Leads by an example. Future captain for sure.
 
RamLakhan said:
To be honest (not taking credit away from him), the RCB bowlers were totally crap! They were bowling lengths after lengths and were giving too much width also (It was almost like playing to the opposition) Not even one bowler tried to bowl yorkers/full length, and they were not even trying to tuck in to the body. At least they didn't target the batsman at the other end who was slow to start with (and gradually gained confidence).

If nobody was able to bowl full length (even Watson), Kohli should have tried Gayle (whom I have seen bowling even in death overs in some matches). I think Kohli will flop as a captain like Sachin (worse than Sachin). He seems to lose all his cool when the team is under pressure (He fairs as a player while chasing because he is at least 50% in control/responsible of the situation as a batsman though he is dependent also on the non-striker). He seems to get upset at bowlers' inabilities. Only aggression isn't going to help in captaincy, we need cool head and resource-handling capacities of Dhoni/Ganguly.
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Should make Raina your next captain. He seems to be an impressive leader.
 
Doesn't choke while chasing as well :amla Good find for south africa, hopefully he will become the best south african batsman of all time :srini
 
He did all this without deewani fans to justify his failures.

Imagine if he had such fans as Shahzad, De Kock ki Deewani, De Kockian, De Kock ki princess, greatest D Kock fan etc :murali
 
Cric_fan_4_eva said:
But he is on the verge of getting dropped.
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And also age is not on his side. Ashwin could be the best bet as he will also most probably play in all formats and he has some age as well (we can't make some rookie as captain). But Kohli's ego should also be taken to confidence (by good transparent all-way discussion between Players, Board, Selection Committee, Media, People, everyone) and the selection for captaincy should be thoroughly explained.
 
RamLakhan said:
And also age is not on his side. Ashwin could be the best bet as he will also most probably play in all formats and he has some age as well (we can't make some rookie as captain). But Kohli's ego should also be taken to confidence (by good transparent all-way discussion between Players, Board, Selection Committee, Media, People, everyone) and the selection for captaincy should be thoroughly explained.
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Yes,I somehow don't like the idea of the best player being the captain in all three formats.
But we don't have long term players barring virat,ashwin and rahane.

Also on Kohli's onfield behaviour , I feel that it shouldn't be a problem. He has improved that leaps and bounds in the last 2 years
 
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carrom_ball said:
Doesn't choke while chasing as well :amla Good find for south africa, hopefully he will become the best south african batsman of all time :srini
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He came into WC 15 in an insane form and turned out to be a liability all through the WC.Yes, he was young then but still long way to go to even think about becoming the best South African batsmen of all time in odis or tests. In t20s he can be the one.
 
Ab Fan said:
He came into WC 15 in an insane form and turned out to be a liability all through the WC.Yes, he was young then but still long way to go to even think about becoming the best South African batsmen of all time in odis or tests. In t20s he can be the one.
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He could be the Marlon Samuels of South Africa, though there are much much better players than Samuels in South Africa! But first let him win one trophy for South Africa :))
 
Very underrated probably the best ODI Batsman after Kohli and ABD

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RamLakhan said:
He could be the Marlon Samuels of South Africa, though there are much much better players than Samuels in South Africa! But first let him win one trophy for South Africa :))
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South Africans hate winning trophies. Never judge an SA player based on trophies won. They just don't care!!!
 
Is he same as Amla and other South Africans under pressure and big matches?

Average of 28 in World Cups- an era where you should be averaging 50(considering that you get to play minnows as well in WC).
 
Lol Anwar was good batsmen but he's way too overhyped and over rated on PP. Against good bowling his record was tailenderish.

Dekock needs to lift up his game, being a youngster is not an excuse anymore.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Lol Anwar was good batsmen but he's way too overhyped and over rated on PP. Against good bowling his record was tailenderish.

Dekock needs to lift up his game, being a youngster is not an excuse anymore.
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Anwar averaged above 50 against McGrath and Warne in Test cricket.
 
Mercurial said:
Anwar averaged above 50 against McGrath and Warne in Test cricket.
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The conversation is going on about world cup. My post was directed to LOI's where Anwar was a good batsman at best. Best Pakistani opener no doubt but not even in top 5 LOI openers from Asia..
 
Slog said:
he's hardly underrated or unhyped so dont know where OP gets this assertion from.

Seems to love Indian bowlers btw
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yea we saw how much he loved facing bumrah and shami in 2018. He is a mediocre player in tests and odi. t20 when there is no pressure he is a monster. No one cares about bilateral knocks.
 
He failed when it mattered (World Cup).

But, he is young and hopefully he will do well in future ICC events.
 
He led from the front yesterday.

A lot more responsibility is on his shoulders now that there is no ABDV or Amla for support.
 
Saeed Anwar averaged 50+ in world cups. De Kock deserves the bashing he has been receiving recently for his gutless performance in the 2019 world cup. He has been a walking wicket in tests for a while. A lot of work needs to be done by him to be considered an elite batsman once again.
 
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