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Rafatullah Mohmand added to the Islamabad United squad

Major said:
When sharjeel got suspended i immediately went over the left over list.

Rafat was the only guy good enough. Rest are just crrap batsmen. We dont have any opening hitter.

All the youngsters that people are naming are not really good enough for t20. Rafat was the best one out of the lot. Next is salman butt and then there is some imran guy opener of sngpl.
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I know there's nobody in the domestic scene.

PPers here will take a lot of random names, bring in Saad Ali etc., but none are hard hitters or meant for T20 cricket.

This goes to show the lack of talent pool and the worst state our cricket is in. The only thing these people can do is abuse the guy for his age, because he's the only one who can hit the ball, even at that age.

I'm no Misbah defender and would've been against it if Misbah chose this guy over any other good T20 opener.
 
Major said:
When sharjeel got suspended i immediately went over the left over list.

Rafat was the only guy good enough. Rest are just crrap batsmen. We dont have any opening hitter.

All the youngsters that people are naming are not really good enough for t20. Rafat was the best one out of the lot. Next is salman butt and then there is some imran guy opener of sngpl.
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Was there name of Israrullah of Peshawar? He was in prime form recently player tournament
 
Hawkeye said:
As an ISLU fan, I know there's no one in the domestic circuit who can replace Sharjeel and take on the bowlers.

Getting this guy in means we have a chance, he can do some damage. I see People losing their mind and abusing non stop because he's 37 plus.

But I would've been against it if there was any hard hitting young opener out there. People are ignorant of these facts.
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So you think he is better than lets say a nauman anwar?
 
Hawkeye said:
I know there's nobody in the domestic scene.

PPers here will take a lot of random names, bring in Saad Ali etc., but none are hard hitters or meant for T20 cricket.

This goes to show the lack of talent pool and the worst state our cricket is in. The only thing these people can do is abuse the guy for his age, because he's the only one who can hit the ball, even at that age.

I'm no Misbah defender and would've been against it if Misbah chose this guy over any other good T20 opener.
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Exactly.

People just look at stats and give out names just like that.

Remember some of these guys wanted umar akmal to open :))
 
Major said:
When sharjeel got suspended i immediately went over the left over list.

Rafat was the only guy good enough. Rest are just crrap batsmen. We dont have any opening hitter.

All the youngsters that people are naming are not really good enough for t20. Rafat was the best one out of the lot. Next is salman butt and then there is some imran guy opener of sngpl.
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Awais zia
 
Sorry to say but this whole psl tournament is a joke. People here are bashing at Misbah for selecting oldies. Selecting oldies has nothing to do with Merit selection as long as the the guy has talent. But as we all know this guy is a joke of a batsman and was badly exposed. But then again on the basis of talent which team is actually giving chance to youngsters? If you are considering bilawal Bhatti, Anwar Ali, iftikhar Ahmed , Mohammad Rizwan, Asad shafiq etc talented and would label them as youngsters then I guess rafatullah also deserves a place.

I am not defending misbah in this post, but in my opinion none of the teams are actually giving chance to youngsters. Why are players like Hasan Mohsin, aamer yamin, Zohaib Khan, Hussain talar, usama Mir, Usman qadir etc on the bench? Moreover alot of deserving players were not even selected for this tournament in the first place. Sad to see the state of Pakistan cricket at the moment.

P.S: while typing bilawal Bhatti the auto correct option of my cell phone changed it to bilawaja Bharti 😂
 
Smooth criminal said:
Sorry to say but this whole psl tournament is a joke. People here are bashing at Misbah for selecting oldies. Selecting oldies has nothing to do with Merit selection as long as the the guy has talent. But as we all know this guy is a joke of a batsman and was badly exposed. But then again on the basis of talent which team is actually giving chance to youngsters? If you are considering bilawal Bhatti, Anwar Ali, iftikhar Ahmed , Mohammad Rizwan, Asad shafiq etc talented and would label them as youngsters then I guess rafatullah also deserves a place.

I am not defending misbah in this post, but in my opinion none of the teams are actually giving chance to youngsters. Why are players like Hasan Mohsin, aamer yamin, Zohaib Khan, Hussain talar, usama Mir, Usman qadir etc on the bench? Moreover alot of deserving players were not even selected for this tournament in the first place. Sad to see the state of Pakistan cricket at the moment.

P.S: while typing bilawal Bhatti the auto correct option of my cell phone changed it to bilawaja Bharti ��
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You wrote this entire post just to pull in this joke right :ashwin

Anyways on point: To be fair to the franchises and as per how T20 leagues work, they are in no obligation to harness or give chance to budding young talent from Pakistan. The institutions that govern or are shareholding these franchises are established to run for profit which makes this league a business proposition for them rather than what you're suggesting.

Every franchise wants to win and to do that they'll hire the best players (they think) would be able to hand them the cup - Nothing wrong with that tbh. This perception that PSL is some breeding ground for Pakistan Cricket ended when they privatize this entire gimmick.

Now, it's just a for profit business.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
You wrote this entire post just to pull in this joke right :ashwin

Anyways on point: To be fair to the franchises and as per how T20 leagues work, they are in no obligation to harness or give chance to budding young talent from Pakistan. The institutions that govern or are shareholding these franchises are established to run for profit which makes this league a business proposition for them rather than what you're suggesting.

Every franchise wants to win and to do that they'll hire the best players (they think) would be able to hand them the cup - Nothing wrong with that tbh. This perception that PSL is some breeding ground for Pakistan Cricket ended when they privatize this entire gimmick.

Now, it's just a for profit business.
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Totally agree with you! But then what is wrong with adding rafatullah to the squad? This whole thread is filled with comments about IU being oldies xi. If the franchise thinks it can win this tournament with oldies what is the problem with that?
 
Smooth criminal said:
Totally agree with you! But then what is wrong with adding rafatullah to the squad? This whole thread is filled with comments about IU being oldies xi. If the franchise thinks it can win this tournament with oldies what is the problem with that?
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Totally this.

He might even do well, has done it in the past in domestic tournaments, so it's too early to call him rubbish and what not.

IU hhas been forced to go this route because there's absolutely no other talent in the pipeline. No opener who can hit hard.

I don't want to go with Mukhtar and Zia.
 
cricketerB94 said:
Rule one for all the leagues around: All the players involved should be 30 or less than 30 years of age.

These leagues are for youngsters and their development FGS. They are meant to polish the talent and allowing youngsters to show their potential at a relatively bigger stage. The Hafeezes and Akmals and Mohmands and Misbahs are already tested at the bigger stage and we don't need to test them anymore. We already have just 5 teams and all we select in them are 30+ years old grandpas.
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these leagues are for making money, making money, and making money! finding talents and develop them is just pure bonus!!
 
Smbhayi said:
these leagues are for making money, making money, and making money! finding talents and develop them is just pure bonus!!
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Last time I checked, BBL and IPL are making more money by giving more exposure to the young and local talent than MCL who have quality oldies like Kallis, Sehwag, Ponting, Yousuf e.t.c.
They are not carrying Sehwag or Sachin as captain of their franchise teams who are 10x better than Misbah and his preferred oldies.
 
cricketerB94 said:
Last time I checked, BBL and IPL are making more money by giving more exposure to the young and local talent than MCL who have quality oldies like Kallis, Sehwag, Ponting, Yousuf e.t.c.
They are not carrying Sehwag or Sachin as captain of their franchise teams who are 10x better than Misbah and his preferred oldies.
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They have great talent in the pipeline. We don't. You're in denial mode and will turn a blind eye to it.

There's nobody like Sarfaraz Khan or Chris Lynn or even the kid who hit 300 in a domestic t20 in Ind.

Open your eyes.
 
Hawkeye said:
They have great talent in the pipeline. We don't. You're in denial mode and will turn a blind eye to it.

There's nobody like Sarfaraz Khan or Chris Lynn or even the kid who hit 300 in a domestic t20 in Ind.

Open your eyes.
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We will never get something until we try for that thing. It's not like everything will be given to you in a plate. You have to hunt for somethings.
Sarfraz and Lynn also got name after playing their leagues, not from domestic competitions. And what do you expect from Pakistan's domestic pitches? They will not give you Sarfraz and Lynn but we can definitely get a better batsman than Malik or Hafeez or Akmal or Misbah by trying him in our own league.
As we have no talent in domestic, so let's play Misbah and Rafat and Yousuf and Wasim Akram in our LOIs because we have no talent and we don't want to try also. Can't see any logic.
 
I even posted Rifat's name when they are looking for replacement. I knew for certain
 
ISLO facing problems, finn called for national duty after willey injured his shoulder.. misbah has to look for another youngsta beauty.

also irfan on the verge on suspension too
 
I want to take back my last post.

This guy plays like his name, rafa tullah, a proper tullay baaz. Should remove rafat and call himself tullah.

Embarrasing stuff by him
 
Major said:
I want to take back my last post.

This guy plays like his name, rafa tullah, a proper tullay baaz. Should remove rafat and call himself tullah.

Embarrasing stuff by him
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he epitomising everything wrong with Misbah the captain


destabilising the entire team batting order for a 40 year old slogger with an average record and even worse domestic season and not giving a chance to Talat, who could have easily slotted at 6 and is coming off an outstanding domestic season .

No surprises that even Asif Ali, a guy with the stats of a tailender bar a fluke 100 gets a chance before talat
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
he epitomising everything wrong with Misbah the captain


destabilising the entire team batting order for a 40 year old slogger with an average record and even worse domestic season and not giving a chance to Talat, who could have easily slotted at 6 and is coming off an outstanding domestic season .

No surprises that even Asif Ali, a guy with the stats of a tailender bar a fluke 100 gets a chance before talat
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Mishnah only picked Rifat because he won't fix: But it honestly looked like he was trying to get out today. Dropped twice and ugly hoicks galore.
 
If I was Rifat and watched that innings that I played today, I would be ashamed of it.
 
Rayyman said:
Mishnah only picked Rifat because he won't fix: But it honestly looked like he was trying to get out today. Dropped twice and ugly hoicks galore.
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thats a stupid excuse, besides why play him in the team then at the expense of your batting order and a young player who had a great domestic season?
 
Major said:
Islamabad united is not some trial team for team pakistan mate

This team is playing to win the tourny not bring youngsters and give then try outs
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I thought one of PSL's goal was to identify young talent like IPL did. It's shamful what IU did this year with so many 35+ players hogging all the spots
 
honestly imagine if a young player did that on Misbah's watch, would have been banished to Narnia.

Whats the point of experience if you play like umar + afridi x chris martin
 
Rayyman said:
Why else would you pick him? Assuming he is not a friend of Misbah.
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in the playing 11 ? Talat, that's blindingly obvious. Even if Talat does nothing he is doing more because you dont have to change what was a functioning batting order in order to accommodate him


in the team there are few that spring to mind, foremost Mukthar Ahmed and Nauman anwar. Honestly him being in the 11 is what ticks me off. I'm already used to a lot of fringe players being Oldies with no future who are there as sympathy picks by their friends
 
Why don't you be innovative and open with Shadab? This kid has got decent technique and can certainly hit the ball.
 
rhony said:
I thought one of PSL's goal was to identify young talent like IPL did. It's shamful what IU did this year with so many 35+ players hogging all the spots
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How many youngsters have Zalmi been playing ? Yesterday they had one and that was Hasan Ali who's already in the national team. Asghar has barely had a look in.

I agree IU have been playing a lot of oldies but please don't have selective standards.
 
Two of the biggest waste of spots in this PSL are Iftikhar Ahmed and Rafatullah Mohmand - both wouldn't even make a Minor Counties XI in England.

How this guy made it to our national team at the ripe old age of 39 never ceases to amaze. His game has been about quick reflexes and hand-eye coordination but that's clearly gone..

I appreciate IU were in a tough spot but surely there's younger and better options in domestic out there who could've stepped in.
 
I honestly don't understand the reason for including him. Surely there is someone (anyone) better to take a gamble with in PAK
 
That was one of the best innings I have seen. He did not get that many runs, but my god so many amazing strokes. You cannot take his eye away while he is batting. Flawless. I am sure he will score a few hundreds if Islamabad persist with him. One of the best talent in Pakistan and he is only 40.
 
his continued selection is clear signs of Misbahs cronyism and favouritsm towards the guy. The whole purpose of these tournies is to help showcase the best young talent in domestics to a worldwide audience and give them experience to perform in pressure situations against international quality players. At the age of 40 he has no long term potential for Pakistan and should be replaced by a youngster.
 
So much talent and potential and still only 40 years young. Plenty of cricket left in him.
 
Misbah + Afridi + Hafeez have damaged our cricket immensely. They are mediocre players and do not want any talented youngsters in the team. Insecure and corrupt trio.
 
It's a bit harsh on Rafatullah - he didn't select himself for a nice pay day (& UAE trip in 5 star accommodation). Disgrace is for those people selecting him over many deserving players, almost half his age & then keep playing him for 3 matches, while Talat had to wait till 7th match.

I actually praise Rafat to keep on playing still at this age in domestics.
 
MMHS said:
It's a bit harsh on Rafatullah - he didn't select himself for a nice pay day (& UAE trip in 5 star accommodation). Disgrace is for those people selecting him over many deserving players, almost half his age & then keep playing him for 3 matches, while Talat had to wait till 7th match.

I actually praise Rafat to keep on playing still at this age in domestics.
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Agreed, have nothing against him - the problem is IU selecting him.
 
I don't see why guys are criticising him. He may not be a great player but so aren't many others in the psl. I would take every opportunity if i got selected and earn what i could.
 
Syed1 said:
So much talent and potential and still only 40 years young. Plenty of cricket left in him.
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LOL. I wanted him to do well when he was selected for Pakistan but clearly, he's a total hack.
 
Not his fault that he's being played though. The first prerequisite for being a professional athelete is confidence in your abilities. IU need to drop him, he won't drop himself.
 
I can't seem to think of one good reason why he should be persisted with.
 
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