Ramiz Raja demanding the PSL Franchises to run their franchises more professionally

[Savak]

While the PSL Franchise owners were complaining to the PCB about losses and they the current PSL financial model was too one sided in favour of the PCB.

Ramiz promised to do whatever he can to help the Franchises but he also told all of them in very blunt terms that the unprofessional ways in which they had been operating their franchises is what has stagnated their franchise, the league and had in fact even hurt the reputation of the league ie

- The same set of players and coaches were consistently being selected and retained year after year by the Franchises even though they had been languishing at the bottom of the rankings. Lol this is a clear reference to Lahore Qalandars. He demanded better standards and evaluation of the players and coaching staff rather than being emotional and putting private relationships first ahead of the franchise. He warned that if Franchises did not manage their affairs more professionally, the PCB had every right to look for other interested buyers willing to run the franchise more professionally

- He came down hard on the fact the franchises were sticking to the same set of retired players and were not working hard enough to attract the best players

- He also encouraged the Franchises to find ways to generate their own revenue streams ie Merchandising, building a loyal hardcore fan base, to run the franchise on a year long basis rather than only a month before the PSL and then to go absent for 10 months in the year

These are much needed words and I am glad he has told them the truth

 

[MenInG]

LAHORE: No deliberations were held over the longstanding demand of Pakistan Super League (PSL)’s franchises to review the financial model of the franchise-based T20 competition when PCB chief Ramiz Raja had a brief preliminary meeting with the owners.

Although detailed discussions have been scheduled for Monday, Friday’s meeting was physically attended by representatives from Multan Sultans and Lahore Qalandars, while the remaining four were present through video link.

The PSL has been making headlines for wrong reasons over the past four years and the burning topic is the financial health of the franchises, who are demanding a bigger chunk than the 80 percent from the revenues generated, with the rest going to the PCB coffers.

Another lingering issue is the devaluation of the Pakistani rupee over the past three years. The franchises are asking the PCB to fix a US dollar price in local currency to offset the losses since the franchises have to pay their foreign players in dollars.

These demands were first put up during the tenure of Najam Sethi, the PCB chairman who launched the league in 2016. But neither Sethi nor his successor Ehsan Mani paid any heed. The franchises moved the Lahore High Court against a PCB decision to pay annual fees by Sept 25, 2020, without clearing the financial dues of the league’s 2019 edition.

Later however, both parties pledged to solve their issues out of the court.

But these issues are undermining the PSL’s immediate future. PCB are in pole position after having signed a 10-year agreement with the franchises before the start of PSL’ inaugural edition.

According to that agreement, in case any franchise does not want to continue, the PCB will auction that franchise on their own and take all the money without offering any share to the original team owners. So if any franchise wants to quit PSL it will get nothing from the goodwill amount of the franchise as all benefits will go to the PCB from the new buyer.

The franchises have the claim that they were losing 15 to 18 million dollars for every edition and in these circumstances it is not possible for them to manage their affairs.

But PCB’s stance is that since as the franchises have signed the long-term agreement, they must abide by it.

However, during his presser earlier this week, Ramiz said he would request the franchises to increase remuneration of foreign players to attract top names of world cricket. This step, in turn, will be helpful to encourage other nations to tour Pakistan any security fears.

The franchises, at this point in time, are refraining from spending more under the existing financial model.

It is pertinent to mention here that Multan Sultans are the biggest sufferers after having paid $6.5 million when they joined the PSL family as the sixth franchise in 2018. In contrast, Karachi Kings were priced at $2.6million, Lahore Qalandars $2.5 million, Islamabad United and Peshawar Zalmi $1.5 million each and Quetta Gladiators $1.1 million.

Meanwhile in brief media release after Friday’s meeting, the PCB said: “Ramiz Raja highlighted and appreciated the franchisees’ contribution in the growth, development and promotion of Pakistan cricket, and assured the team owners that he remained committed to enhancing and strengthening the HBL PSL brand.

“The chairman assured the owners that he understood the challenges they faced and promised to work with them.”

Published in Dawn, September 25th, 2021

 

[cricketjoshila]

IPL franchisees get only 50 per cent of the central revenue pool and here PSL franchisees are getting 80 per cent and still crying.

Running a sports team is expensive business and if one cannot take the losses they must quit.

PCB should try to get in deep pocketed individuals.

 

[Major]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check this out

Now the pcb chairman is dictating who to select and who not to select.

Ramiz raja will be ruining psl now

 

[Amjid Javed]

RR has a valid point in regards to team selections, teams should be allowing development and growth of new players rather then the rahat Alis, mo Irfan, imam ul haq etc.. been selected where either players have no real future in game or are nepotism picks and arent suited to T20s.

 

[Gilly]

RR has a valid point in regards to team selections, teams should be allowing development and growth of new players rather then the rahat Alis, mo Irfan, imam ul haq etc.. been selected where either players have no real future in game or are nepotism picks and arent suited to T20s.

Its a hard line when you need well known players to attract supporters, names mean a lot in sport and supporters love to have a big name player in their team.

 

[cricketjoshila]

RR has a valid point in regards to team selections, teams should be allowing development and growth of new players rather then the rahat Alis, mo Irfan, imam ul haq etc.. been selected where either players have no real future in game or are nepotism picks and arent suited to T20s.

If a franchisee owns a team, its their decision and not PCBs.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If a franchisee is losing 15mn usd a season, thats 2.5bn pkr?

That is big loss.

 

[Shafi]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check this out

Now the pcb chairman is dictating who to select and who not to select.

Ramiz raja will be ruining psl now

So you want same set of failed players and coaching staffs will be retain again and again for Lahore Qalandars?
Mamoon will criticize everything about PCB or Pakistan. He will criticize if Qalandars choose same people or different people. As long as players from Pakistan or foreign player support Pakistan he will criticize. He treats Pakistan people are the worst in the world.

 

[Titan24]

If a franchisee is losing 15mn usd a season, thats 2.5bn pkr?

That is big loss.

Thats combined for all franchises I think. Still not sure how credible that is. These sports and T20 leagues businesses operate in a discrete way despite the audits and stuff happening. On face value majority of the sports teams are supposedly loss making entities.

 

[reversehook]

RR is bang on here, these franchises need to get professional (stop their buddy buddy nepotistic cultures) and market themselves all yr round, especially find extra streams of revenue from their core domestic players, they only turn up when the season is on and want to do nothing to get most out of it. Lhr Q's is a fine example of this, aqib javed has failed your franchise single handedly, any sane franchise would have gotten rid of him, but no.... then quetta G's have sarfi 11 going on and his drama... any sane franchise would have changed skipper, but nope.... if you dont got the galls to make any needed changes or think out of box, dont cry us a river about loses...

and most of teams prefer old retired/useless players than yound exciting ones.... and here the no-name vs name excuse wont do as i will never go to a game for a rahat ali, asad shafiq, mo irfan, azam khan, etc.... i would rather watch a 18-24 yr old deserving and up and coming athlete play, sure they might not click right away, but once they do, they are the ones who will become superstars and these useless dead bodies taking up spots...

RR really needs to fix up the PSL and push these lazy franchises....

 

[Titan24]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check this out

Now the pcb chairman is dictating who to select and who not to select.

Ramiz raja will be ruining psl now

If a franchisee owns a team, its their decision and not PCBs.

Ofcourse its at team’s discretion. However, no harm in PCB discussing its vision in the meeting, if a franchise want to follow it then good enough otherwise obviously PCB cant force anyone. Only thing PCB can do is to mingle with the emerging player rule to try to implement the policy that is if everyone agrees on that.

 

[Titan24]

Reports: PCB and franchises to consider auction for 7th edition of PSL

The seventh edition of the Pakistan Super League will be held in January-February 2022 and in the latest turn of events, franchises have come up with a fresh idea ahead of their upcoming season. It has been reported that franchises and PCB are willing to go for auction rather than drafting players for the mega event. As per the report, the new PCB chairman Ramiz Raja is in the mood to make PSL a big affair, possibly bigger than India’s IPL.

Raja recently had his first meeting with franchises and talked about auctions which could have been useful in attracting the attention of world-class cricketers. It is also being in talks that if the auction system comes for PSL, players will enjoy higher wages when compared to their old draft system.

As per reports by Cricket Pakistan, franchises also opened up in the same meeting over their financial challenges in the last six years with the use of the traditional financial model. The franchises also requested the PCB to share with them the report on the financial model by Justice Tassaduq Hussain Jillani (retd).

However, PCB stated that they wish to keep the report confidential. The sources also added that Raja is looking forward to stage all PSL matches in Gilgit Baltistan stadium as it has renovated keeping in mind the international standards. It has to be noted that Pakistan cricket has recently been going through a lot.

They had their first blow when the New Zealand team decided to cancel Pakistan’s white-ball tour at the last minute due to a security threat. Many big names from Pakistan called their decision wrong due to PCB had to suffer a lot financially. The worse turned when England men and women cancelled their England tour due to same reasons only.

Where PCB has been working sincerely over years to bring more and more international cricket to Pakistan, the abandonment of these two tours have come as a huge blow. It will be a thing to see if the upcoming edition of PSL will be a new ray of light for the homeland.

https://www.crictracker.com/reports-pcb-and-franchises-to-consider-auction-for-7th-edition-of-psl/

 

[Titan24]

Surprised that franchises are open to any new or fresh ideas especially when its going to possibly cost them more bucks. Would be interesting if the plan goes ahead.

 

[unemployedgm]

The PSL model is similar to that of owning a Dominos. Teams should be owned in perpetuity so franchises can develop long-term strategy.

Competing against the IPL isn’t smart or a tact I would take. We need to bring in best practices to the league that includes a separate governing body that runs the league. The Chairmsn of the PCB shouldn’t be Chairman, CEO, Chairman of Selevtors, Head of PSL and cmo.

 

[Mr Crickekter]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check this out

Now the pcb chairman is dictating who to select and who not to select.

Ramiz raja will be ruining psl now

You are criticizing RR becoz he removed one of the parasites of Pakistan cricket i.e MisQar....
This post shows your frustration and nothing else..

 

[Major]

Funny to see people trying to argue with me with rwgars to that someone who bought a team for millions gets dictated by the pcb chairman.

Again, chairman is no one to tell who to play or hire to the franchises unless they violate some law.

 

[Bewal Express]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check this out

Now the pcb chairman is dictating who to select and who not to select.

Ramiz raja will be ruining psl now

So him asking the franchises to step up their game and improve the product, so that they dont complain to the PCB about losses is wrong. I must have missed something

 

[Bewal Express]

Funny to see people trying to argue with me with rwgars to that someone who bought a team for millions gets dictated by the pcb chairman.

Again, chairman is no one to tell who to play or hire to the franchises unless they violate some law.

But arent they the ones complaining to RR and PCB about their losses. Whats wrong with him telling them to improve their product?

 

[UzmanBeast]

If a franchisee owns a team, its their decision and not PCBs.

I agree, but at the same time, these franchises have no right to come against the PCB when there are talks of adding a new team or two.

If these franchises stayed in their limits, RR would not have this discussion with them.

If they want to cross their limits, then RR needs to remind them.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Sounds like alot of rumor and innuendo. The "stadium" in GB is literally a field lol. And hosting anything more than a single match in Kashmir or GB is ludicrous because those regions have very small populations and likely won't even sell-out a 5k capacity stadium.

 

[Darkrai]

Funny to see people trying to argue with me with rwgars to that someone who bought a team for millions gets dictated by the pcb chairman.

Again, chairman is no one to tell who to play or hire to the franchises unless they violate some law.

He didn't tell them who to hire or play? He just told them it would be better for them if they stop selecting proven failures. The fans are also frustrated with such poor decisions.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

This is what happens when you appoint a reactive man-child with a poor understanding of the game as your chairman. Everyday he makes a deluded and uninformed statement, rather than just shutting up and acting like a professional head of a cricket board.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

The franchises should reply back to RR and ask him to practise what he preaches and not let pcb select duds like Azam khan and others due to nepotism.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

The PCB is itself an unprofessional organization and couldnt even arrange a drs for the nz series. Its funny when they ask others to be professional

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

RR shouldn't try to meddle in PSL operations. The franchise owners are businessmen with better financial acumen than Rambo and will do what works best for them. Emotions shouldn't rule over financial sense.

 

[Pakpak]

RR shouldn't try to meddle in PSL operations. The franchise owners are businessmen with better financial acumen than Rambo and will do what works best for them. Emotions shouldn't rule over financial sense.

He's trying to rule over their cricketing sense, which they seem to be lacking even at a basic level.

Keeping A. Javed as coach for so many seasons in a row is absolutely beyond belief. Same for QG now. Noone will follow these teams or any team where you select the same nonsense due to friendships or nepotism, our fans suffer that from our NT as it is, why destroy PSL with it

 

[DrSchultz]

Increase prize money for 1st position. That may propel some of the franchise owners to take tough decisions. As it is, they are getting their share of the pie regardless of the teams performance.

 

[sharmaji]

Good idea to go for auctions. I can see a lot of egos will be bruised.

 

[PakLFC]

He should be saying the PCB should be operated professionally.

 

[Savak]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check this out

Now the pcb chairman is dictating who to select and who not to select.

Ramiz raja will be ruining psl now

Good idea to go for auctions. I can see a lot of egos will be bruised.

Why do you feel an auction is good? Does this mean a lot of mediocre players will not get guaranteed decent pay?

 

[Savak]

Increase prize money for 1st position. That may propel some of the franchise owners to take tough decisions. As it is, they are getting their share of the pie regardless of the teams performance.

Maybe the broadcasting, title sponsorship and other revenues should be shared according to the point tables. Maybe this will push the Franchises to run their affairs professionally rather than as a family business

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Increase prize money for 1st position. That may propel some of the franchise owners to take tough decisions. As it is, they are getting their share of the pie regardless of the teams performance.

Maybe the broadcasting, title sponsorship and other revenues should be shared according to the point tables. Maybe this will push the Franchises to run their affairs professionally rather than as a family business

Both good ideas, would definitely encourage healthy competition.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I'm no fan of Raja, but what he says here is not wrong. 80% revenues is a massive proportion for a franchise operation, these people just don't seem to understand what marketing entails.

 

[sharmaji]

Yes. Nothing like money to show someone's real net value.

It goes both ways.

1. Non-performing players who are enjoying higher tier because of the draft policy installed by PCB will realise that they are not really valued by franchises if they don't perform. They won't be able to rest on their past laurels.

2. Also, sometimes auctions lead to high reward for some inexperienced but promising players, for example Dahani might get a very high fee because of how promising he is seen by the franchises, but if it were draft system, he would get severely underpaid because he will be in lower tier.

Why do you feel an auction is good? Does this mean a lot of mediocre players will not get guaranteed decent pay?

 

[Savak]

80% of the PSL revenues going to the franchises is very very generous, the fact they are still incurring losses raises questions on how well the franchises are managing their finances

 

[Pakpak]

Maybe the broadcasting, title sponsorship and other revenues should be shared according to the point tables. Maybe this will push the Franchises to run their affairs professionally rather than as a family business

This is a very good idea come to think of it, maybe it will give them a kick in the rear end to improve.

 

[Bewal Express]

It is very noticeable that irrespective of who is in charge, out players/ coaches use any tournament to repay the panjis they have built up over the years. If anyone thought the PSL would be any different, they are sadly mistaken

 

[globalcitizen]

So finally an auction of players like IPL is being considered. Waa not this method ridiculed earlier by ppers ?

Ramiz commentary itself showed he is not bright in analysing situations, and its playing out live as chairman!

 

[Golden arm]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] check this out

Now the pcb chairman is dictating who to select and who not to select.

Ramiz raja will be ruining psl now

Not really

Look at Quetta Gladiators, Nadeem Omar has been selecting same old players over the period of time, consistently failing with the hope they will do better this time, and still not learning lesson.
Coach-Moeen Khan- Failure? Did any one dare to change him- NO
Coach-Aqib Javid- Failure? is he going to be changed- NO-

 

[Savak]

RR shouldn't try to meddle in PSL operations. The franchise owners are businessmen with better financial acumen than Rambo and will do what works best for them. Emotions shouldn't rule over financial sense.

These businessmen with financial acumen are getting 80% of the PSL revenues and are still incurring losses and want 100% of the PSL revenues and have the hall to complain about losses while they are badly mismanaging their finances. Most of them just operate the franchise for two months in the entire year and haven't really built on their franchises for the last 6 years, it's only fair RR tells them to pull their socks up or the PCB will go to other interested buyers who are interested in running the franchise professionally

 

[Savak]

This is what happens when you appoint a reactive man-child with a poor understanding of the game as your chairman. Everyday he makes a deluded and uninformed statement, rather than just shutting up and acting like a professional head of a cricket board.

Mani with his silent khamosh behind the scenes professional approach didn't impress anyone here. Atleast Ramiz is passionately and proactively carrying, executing his ideas which is what the chairman should do

 

[Savak]

80% of the PSL revenues are going to the PSL Franchises?

If that is true, that is utterly ridiculous and too much. Apparently the BCCI distrustes 50% of the IPL revenues. And these PSL Franchises are going and complaining to the PCB about their costs and losses. The PCB worked hard to get tax concessions for these Franchises with the FBR and the provincial government.

On top of that barring Ali Tareen, Lahore Qalandars and Zalmi, the other Franchises go missing for ten months of the year. Maybe it's time for the PCB to put their emotions aside ie these PSL Franchise owners invested in the PSL from inception when there were no buyers and try to see if there are other people with big pockets who will not only buy these franchises but also promise to run them professionally

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Mani with his silent khamosh behind the scenes professional approach didn't impress anyone here. Atleast Ramiz is passionately and proactively carrying, executing his ideas which is what the chairman should do

He has done nothing. So stop pretending like he has.

And I'd take a professional who takes his job seriously over a guy with such a low IQ that he actually thought that saying: 'we will will target New Zealand and England in the World Cup, just like we targeted India (eventhough we have lost to India every single time) was a normal thing for a PCB chairman to say.

 

[Shafi]

Good to see Ramiz is identifying those leeches and want to be salted. Lahore Qalandar boss is a drama queen who use his fake emotions of dancing and crying but don't do anything after becoming last in every season. He keeps retaining those TTFs and wanna be coaches and want to win the competition. He knows even if his team becomes last he can make money. Pathetic actor.

 

[Shafi]

He has done nothing. So stop pretending like he has.

And I'd take a professional who takes his job seriously over a guy with such a low IQ that he actually thought that saying: 'we will will target New Zealand and England in the World Cup, just like we targeted India (eventhough we have lost to India every single time) was a normal thing for a PCB chairman to say.

At least Ramiz identifies them in less than a month where Mani overlooked them for years and did nothing. This Qalandar boss keeps getting away with poor performance due to his friendship with wanna be coaches and TTFS.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

At least Ramiz identifies them in less than a month where Mani overlooked them for years and did nothing. This Qalandar boss keeps getting away with poor performance due to his friendship with wanna be coaches and TTFS.

Poor justification.

Keep cheering Ramiz as he makes us a laughing stock in world cricket. And you know what? we deserve a chairman like him, who is not not lacking massively in IQ but also has no idea about how to run a professional cricket board because he has spent the last 18 years ago sounding like a broken record on commentary and playing the same greatest hits of cliches he is known for

 

[Shafi]

Poor justification.

Keep cheering Ramiz as he makes us a laughing stock in world cricket. And you know what? we deserve a chairman like him, who is not not lacking massively in IQ but also has no idea about how to run a professional cricket board because he has spent the last 18 years ago sounding like a broken record on commentary and playing the same greatest hits of cliches he is known for

What Mani did then? Keep those same people for years, boot licking Big 3 and NZ. What we have achieved by that?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

What Mani did then? Keep those same people for years, boot licking Big 3 and NZ. What we have achieved by that?

Wasn't Mani's job to meddle with selection, just as it isn't any cricket board chairman's job to meddle with selection.

Besides Mani's role was ceremonial. He did right by appointing a professional Wasim Khan, who then revamped Pakistan's domestic structure successfully, established a proper grass-roots and 2nd team structure, structured women's domestic cricket and made possible a number of successful foreign tours to Pakistan until he and PCB were shafted for absolutely no reason other than coordinated politics from the other side.

And oh yeah, he didn't lose us millions in a court case against BCCI, paid his coaches on time and didn't beg India to play a series with Pakistan...which automatically makes him an improvement over his predecessor.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Its a good idea but I think the franchises decide to play it safe, to protect their own interests, which is generally the case for most of Pakistan cricket. Ultimately it protects the jobs of a core few but destroys the careers of many. This problem can't be fixed by the chairman and its up to the league to root it out, a number of suggestions in this thread will help with that.

LQ get a lot of flack and I genuinely could be wrong with this as I haven't studied it in detail but their player development programme seems pretty decent. While things might not have worked out as planned, they managed to get some decent headlines by getting players into the BBL. Thats pretty impressive results from a talent hunt and it deserves some credit because Haris and Dilbar would not have made it otherwise.

The PCB should also step in to ensure the brand integrity of the league is maintained. In just a few months we have seen the core players of the PSL play against each other in random tournaments such as the KPL and now the National T20.

PSL players in the top categories should not be allowed to play in these tournaments. Infact I would like to see the announcement of the PSL Platinum or Gold Category a few months prior to the PSL and in the interim the national T20 is played to allow players to stake a claim for a lucrative PSL contract. Not sure about the logistics but something like that is needed to protect the PSL and also make the National T20 less pointless.

 

[Savak]

Its a good idea but I think the franchises decide to play it safe, to protect their own interests, which is generally the case for most of Pakistan cricket. Ultimately it protects the jobs of a core few but destroys the careers of many. This problem can't be fixed by the chairman and its up to the league to root it out, a number of suggestions in this thread will help with that.

LQ get a lot of flack and I genuinely could be wrong with this as I haven't studied it in detail but their player development programme seems pretty decent. While things might not have worked out as planned, they managed to get some decent headlines by getting players into the BBL. Thats pretty impressive results from a talent hunt and it deserves some credit because Haris and Dilbar would not have made it otherwise.

The PCB should also step in to ensure the brand integrity of the league is maintained. In just a few months we have seen the core players of the PSL play against each other in random tournaments such as the KPL and now the National T20.

PSL players in the top categories should not be allowed to play in these tournaments. Infact I would like to see the announcement of the PSL Platinum or Gold Category a few months prior to the PSL and in the interim the national T20 is played to allow players to stake a claim for a lucrative PSL contract. Not sure about the logistics but something like that is needed to protect the PSL and also make the National T20 less pointless.

How is retaining serial failure coaches in Aqib Javed and Moin Khan despite unlimited failures protecting the brand? How is the nepotistic selection of Azam Khan protecting the brand?

If I was an investor in the franchise, I would be furious

 

[cricketjoshila]

How is retaining serial failure coaches in Aqib Javed and Moin Khan despite unlimited failures protecting the brand? How is the nepotistic selection of Azam Khan protecting the brand?

If I was an investor in the franchise, I would be furious

You are not an investor nor is RR.

Azam Khan is selected by pak team. No?

XYZ has put his money into the team, he has the freedom to select players and support staff.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

How is retaining serial failure coaches in Aqib Javed and Moin Khan despite unlimited failures protecting the brand? How is the nepotistic selection of Azam Khan protecting the brand?

If I was an investor in the franchise, I would be furious

Its a reflection of the defensive mindset of Pakistani mentality that having a leader with a reputation or name, no matter how poor they have performed, is the go-to position.

This mindset is reflected in all areas of society, most visibly in politics...but is the case in cricket too where the majority of our ex-cricketer, analysts etc default position is to go towards "experience" no matter how badly those experienced players have performed.

At the moment it's far too easy for franchisees to keep this mentality. It's far easier for Rana Fawad to sleep at night leaving Aqib in charge and Sohail Akhtar as the skipper because when things fail he can say that he had experienced people at the helm, it was bad luck etc and it will be accepted.

In our culture had he taken a risk and involved a new coach/skipper and got similar results he would be lambasted. We are a very risk-averse society and people like Rana Fawad know nothing about cricket nor do they care about growing the game.

One way to help with this is in the PSL is to incorporate your suggestions for distributing money based on performance.

 

[Major]

Not really

Look at Quetta Gladiators, Nadeem Omar has been selecting same old players over the period of time, consistently failing with the hope they will do better this time, and still not learning lesson.
Coach-Moeen Khan- Failure? Did any one dare to change him- NO
Coach-Aqib Javid- Failure? is he going to be changed- NO-

i think u need to read the OP and understand the fact that Rameez raja came now and he is making these decisions now.

Thus, any change that takes place happens after today.......

 

[Major]

He didn't tell them who to hire or play? He just told them it would be better for them if they stop selecting proven failures. The fans are also frustrated with such poor decisions.

....

He has no authority to tell franchises who to select or who to fire.

 

[Savak]

Its a reflection of the defensive mindset of Pakistani mentality that having a leader with a reputation or name, no matter how poor they have performed, is the go-to position.

This mindset is reflected in all areas of society, most visibly in politics...but is the case in cricket too where the majority of our ex-cricketer, analysts etc default position is to go towards "experience" no matter how badly those experienced players have performed.

At the moment it's far too easy for franchisees to keep this mentality. It's far easier for Rana Fawad to sleep at night leaving Aqib in charge and Sohail Akhtar as the skipper because when things fail he can say that he had experienced people at the helm, it was bad luck etc and it will be accepted.

In our culture had he taken a risk and involved a new coach/skipper and got similar results he would be lambasted. We are a very risk-averse society and people like Rana Fawad know nothing about cricket nor do they care about growing the game.

One way to help with this is in the PSL is to incorporate your suggestions for distributing money based on performance.

The previous 3 year broadcast deal for the psl for $36 million which has now expired. A 358% increase from the previous $10 million deal. Assuming if the PCB can register the same 358% increase for the next 3 years ie $130 million best case scenario and if the PCB announces that this pie will be distributed in accordance with the points table at the end of the tournament, watch these Franchises get absolutely professional when it comes to the selection of coaches, players, fitness standards, innovative stroke play, getting the best foreign players etc. I hope someone can transmit these suggestions to RR and WK

 

[Savak]

....

He has no authority to tell franchises who to select or who to fire.

I am sure if he demanded a Powerful role for Lord Misbah, you will be singing a different tune.

Secondly the PSL is PCBs asset. If the stakeholders are ruining it with unprofessional, nepotistic decisions, the PCB has every right to step in

 

[Savak]

You are not an investor nor is RR.

Azam Khan is selected by pak team. No?

XYZ has put his money into the team, he has the freedom to select players and support staff.

The PSL and the franchises are assets of the PCB. If they are being mismanaged unprofessionally to the point where its hurting the league and brand, the PCB has Every right to step in to protect the brand and league and even terminate ownership of the franchises.

For eg if a franchise owner and his loyalists are abusing the franchises for satta, gambling, fixing, will the PCB just stay silent and do nothing?

 

[JaDed]

The PSL and the franchises are assets of the PCB. If they are being mismanaged unprofessionally to the point where its hurting the league and brand, the PCB has Every right to step in to protect the brand and league and even terminate ownership of the franchises.

For eg if a franchise owner and his loyalists are abusing the franchises for satta, gambling, fixing, will the PCB just stay silent and do nothing?

Apples and oranges, Selecting whom they want is legal, gambling fixing etc are illegal thats the difference.

Incentive should be to win, if the franchises want to win they will select the right mix of players whom they thought were best

 

[JaDed]

PCB will open up itself to a massive lawsuit if it removes a Franchise for poor performance on field… unless they have something very specific or in their contracts

 

[Savak]

PCB will open up itself to a massive lawsuit if it removes a Franchise for poor performance on field… unless they have something very specific or in their contracts

Going fwd, the PCB needs to have performance related clauses and the right to terminate franchise ownership in the event a franchise is being managed unprofessionally to the point it is hurting the league big time. There is no justification for the continous retention of the likes of Aqib Javed, Moin Khan etc

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Is he a PCB Chairman or a motivational speaker?

 

[Savak]

Is he a PCB Chairman or a motivational speaker?

He should be motivating

 

[Cric_lover4487]

The PSL and the franchises are assets of the PCB. If they are being mismanaged unprofessionally to the point where its hurting the league and brand, the PCB has Every right to step in to protect the brand and league and even terminate ownership of the franchises.

For eg if a franchise owner and his loyalists are abusing the franchises for satta, gambling, fixing, will the PCB just stay silent and do nothing?

I don't think PCB can dictate management decisions to the franchises. That would be illegal i suppose. If a franchise is unable to build its brand and win games then they have themselves to blame. You can't reason with LQ to fire Aqib Javed and hire someone else. It doesn't happen anywhere. RCB,DC,PK have never won IPL but BCCI doesn't care.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The PSL and the franchises are assets of the PCB. If they are being mismanaged unprofessionally to the point where its hurting the league and brand, the PCB has Every right to step in to protect the brand and league and even terminate ownership of the franchises.

For eg if a franchise owner and his loyalists are abusing the franchises for satta, gambling, fixing, will the PCB just stay silent and do nothing?

This is no satta gambling etc etc.

This is about selecting players and support staff. PCB cannot tell someone who to hire and who to not. If they do it will be illegal and unethical in almost every league.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The previous 3 year broadcast deal for the psl for $36 million which has now expired. A 358% increase from the previous $10 million deal. Assuming if the PCB can register the same 358% increase for the next 3 years ie $130 million best case scenario and if the PCB announces that this pie will be distributed in accordance with the points table at the end of the tournament, watch these Franchises get absolutely professional when it comes to the selection of coaches, players, fitness standards, innovative stroke play, getting the best foreign players etc. I hope someone can transmit these suggestions to RR and WK

This level of intensity also requires a loyal and passionate fanbase. Using football as an example, a team like Arsenal would have been happy with Arsene Wenger managing them indefinitely because he did an ok job while also ensuring that the books were balanced.

It was the noise from fans that convinced the board to act. The form may have dipped significantly in the short term but they seem to have a vision now that they wish to follow.

 

[Major]

I am sure if he demanded a Powerful role for Lord Misbah, you will be singing a different tune.

Secondly the PSL is PCBs asset. If the stakeholders are ruining it with unprofessional, nepotistic decisions, the PCB has every right to step in

you really dont understand things and like to comment on each and everything around here.

PCB cannot tell PSL team owners who to hire or fire. If they do so, than the case can be taken to court.

By buying the franchise the owners hold the right to who to hire and fire not Rameez Raja. I doubt you might have understood this point and will resort to giving some poor logic.

 

[Major]

RR has a valid point in regards to team selections, teams should be allowing development and growth of new players rather then the rahat Alis, mo Irfan, imam ul haq etc.. been selected where either players have no real future in game or are nepotism picks and arent suited to T20s.

? Why should Franchise owners give a damn about who has a future or not? Franchise owners are not responsible for making cricketers for Pakistan team.

Franchises invested in PSL to make money. They are not liable to make players or anything. They will be dictated by profit and loss. If they face losses they will take actions that helps them make profits.

Even in PCB domestic cricket, just because you dont like a player doesnt mean he should be forced to retire.

Rahat Ali, Mo Irfan and Imam Ul haq are good domestic player. You cant expect all 100 domestic players to be international level. Logically that is not even possible. That would be like having 10 benches of international players ready. That happens no where.

Alistair Cook and Darren Stevensons are still playing cricket. Many english cricketers who play domestic dont really have a future in England international. So by your logic should they also be discarded.

Domestic and international are both different. Only the best from Domestic gets to international.

PCB, RR and anyone else are no one to tell Ali Naqvi or other owners of PSL team who to hire or who to fire. They have to follow a set of laws that could be related to corruption etc, thats about it.

If Zalmi wants to hire Chinese cricketers for marketing purpose, Rameez Raja cannot do zilch. People like Javed Afridi would sue PCB if they even dare to enforce changes on him.

The likes of Rameez Raja dont really have knowledge regarding running a company. Just because they see themselves being able to control cricketers easily, they think their domain reaches everywhere and start making such dumb statements.

Rameez has failed to even host a single series, so I would worry more about that rather than telling the franchise owners what to do.

 

[Savak]

? Why should Franchise owners give a damn about who has a future or not? Franchise owners are not responsible for making cricketers for Pakistan team.

Franchises invested in PSL to make money. They are not liable to make players or anything. They will be dictated by profit and loss. If they face losses they will take actions that helps them make profits.

Even in PCB domestic cricket, just because you dont like a player doesnt mean he should be forced to retire.

Rahat Ali, Mo Irfan and Imam Ul haq are good domestic player. You cant expect all 100 domestic players to be international level. Logically that is not even possible. That would be like having 10 benches of international players ready. That happens no where.

Alistair Cook and Darren Stevensons are still playing cricket. Many english cricketers who play domestic dont really have a future in England international. So by your logic should they also be discarded.

Domestic and international are both different. Only the best from Domestic gets to international.

PCB, RR and anyone else are no one to tell Ali Naqvi or other owners of PSL team who to hire or who to fire. They have to follow a set of laws that could be related to corruption etc, thats about it.

If Zalmi wants to hire Chinese cricketers for marketing purpose, Rameez Raja cannot do zilch. People like Javed Afridi would sue PCB if they even dare to enforce changes on him.

The likes of Rameez Raja dont really have knowledge regarding running a company. Just because they see themselves being able to control cricketers easily, they think their domain reaches everywhere and start making such dumb statements.

Rameez has failed to even host a single series, so I would worry more about that rather than telling the franchise owners what to do.

That's okay. I know you are bitter about RR having kicked Misbah out brutally on his backside. This too shall pass

 

[Rana]

This is something I agree with Ramiz. There are some clear, blatant examples of PSL franchises not being run in a professional manner. There are some absolute blatant examples in which it is clear that the franchises and the domestic regions are not aligned at all.

It is bizarre to think Saim Ayub is the emerging player for QG, yet the guy is nowhere to be seen in the national cup

KPK gave a debut to Mohammad Imran today, even though Imran as the emerging player is actually one of the better bowlers for Peshawar Zalmi

Sohail Akhtar is the captain for Lahore Qalandars, a huge franchise! But for Balochistan, the guy is an absolute nobody. He had to find his way into this region due to transfer.

To me it seems the standard of the national T20 is so much higher than the PSL itself considering some of these clear examples of unprofessionalism.

 

[Savak]

Let's not forget, these Franchise owners are responsible for the violation of the biosecure bubble which caused immense damage to the PCB for PSL 7. These Franchise owners must be kept in line

 

[Saj]

I think the PCB gave the franchises too much leeway in the initial stages of the PSL and it will be difficult now to wrestle that back from them as they have been used to having a lot of things their own way.

Some of the owners seem to think that the PSL is nothing without them.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I think the PCB gave the franchises too much leeway in the initial stages of the PSL and it will be difficult now to wrestle that back from them as they have been used to having a lot of things their own way.

Some of the owners seem to think that the PSL is nothing without them.

Lets be honest, the owners are putting their millions into the teams. Not RR or anyone else. So ofcourse a millionaire like that wont like to be told how he should run the team.

 

[JattMaula]

Lets be honest, the owners are putting their millions into the teams. Not RR or anyone else. So ofcourse a millionaire like that wont like to be told how he should run the team.

Saj's point still stands. PCB pandered way too much in beginning. Now it's very hard to wrestle back the control.

PCB will have to wait out remaining years of the contracts and herd next lot better.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Saj's point still stands. PCB pandered way too much in beginning. Now it's very hard to wrestle back the control.

PCB will have to wait out remaining years of the contracts and herd next lot better.

Except when they allowed the franchisee owners to breach the bubble as and when they wanted, PCB has been ok.

Who is going to pay more than a million to own a team in a league where the revenue pool doesn't bring in more than 3 million for a team?

 

[Savak]

Except when they allowed the franchisee owners to breach the bubble as and when they wanted, PCB has been ok.

Who is going to pay more than a million to own a team in a league where the revenue pool doesn't bring in more than 3 million for a team?

They are paying the price now in exchange for future benefits. The PSL broadcast and title sponsorship package is now due for the next 3 years, they invested and took a risk when the future of the PSL was uncertain. If the PCB strikes another bonanza on the broadcast and title sponsorship package, they will finally be rewarded. Fingers crossed

 

[realitygaf]

I’ll be honest . This National t20 has been more entertaining than psl . Even without international players.

 

[Oneking]

Everyone criticizing on sharing 80% of revenues,
Do we know, what liabilities does franchises have, example players salaries given, ground maintenance, pitch preparations, advertisements, media and broadcasting cost, ground staff cost. How much of gate revenues are shared, is PCB leading stadiums to franchises, commentators cost, anything am I missing, it’s a whole package, bc we can do the math to know if franchises are at default or making excuses

 

[Rana]

I’ll be honest . This National t20 has been more entertaining than psl . Even without international players.

So true. We don’t have phateechar overseas players dragging down the quality.

PSL should have 2-3 overseas max and all two or three who are earning $250k

 

[cricketjoshila]

They are paying the price now in exchange for future benefits. The PSL broadcast and title sponsorship package is now due for the next 3 years, they invested and took a risk when the future of the PSL was uncertain. If the PCB strikes another bonanza on the broadcast and title sponsorship package, they will finally be rewarded. Fingers crossed

Lets assume that PCB double the broadcast rights value. Though i doubt that.

How much will each team make from the revenue pool 6-8mn?

One team i suppose is paying 6mn for the franchisee rights plus salary cap of 1.2mn plus staff and all other expenses.

Unless a team is making 10mn annually, i doubt they will be in the green regularly.

And this has been the case for 6-7 years.