Ab Fan
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There is no doubt that he is an ATG captain and one of the smartest wicket-keeper the world has seen. His presence of mind and composure towards a game is as good as it gets.
However, if we restrict this thread to MSD- the odi batsmen, how high would you rate him?
In this batting-dominated era, MS Dhoni has reached close to 10K runs average 51 at a SR under 90(something worth questioning given he bats mostly in the latter overs where you are required to take on the attack).
A SR of 90 is what you will see associated with top order batsmen in this era. Their SR will be lower because they are required to play all through the innings and accelerate only later on. Other middle order batsmen who still batted at a higher position to Dhoni like Symonds, de Villiers all have better SR? For a reference, someone like Klusenar had a very high SR batting lower order. Does this low Strike Rate explains that maybe he has lost as much of games as he won?
For a player of his callibre, his record outside Asia is a bit underwhelming too.
Aus- 40
Eng- 35
SA- 24
NZ- 90
However, statistics never alone gave a correct measurement. Hence, when we go down to some of his match-winning performances outside Asia, there is again not much to talk of bar a few vs SL.
At the end of the day, if there is anything which matters the most is performance in big tournaments- WC and CT.
Barring the 2011 WC final where he played a great knock after the platform waa set by Gambhir, his record is pretty absymal in every other ICC tournaments he played in.
There is no doubt we are talking of the guy in question who has already won WC and CT for his team but how much of that contribution was with his bat?
So, where would you rank him among greats from his era and across the eras in limited overs formats?
However, if we restrict this thread to MSD- the odi batsmen, how high would you rate him?
In this batting-dominated era, MS Dhoni has reached close to 10K runs average 51 at a SR under 90(something worth questioning given he bats mostly in the latter overs where you are required to take on the attack).
A SR of 90 is what you will see associated with top order batsmen in this era. Their SR will be lower because they are required to play all through the innings and accelerate only later on. Other middle order batsmen who still batted at a higher position to Dhoni like Symonds, de Villiers all have better SR? For a reference, someone like Klusenar had a very high SR batting lower order. Does this low Strike Rate explains that maybe he has lost as much of games as he won?
For a player of his callibre, his record outside Asia is a bit underwhelming too.
Aus- 40
Eng- 35
SA- 24
NZ- 90
However, statistics never alone gave a correct measurement. Hence, when we go down to some of his match-winning performances outside Asia, there is again not much to talk of bar a few vs SL.
At the end of the day, if there is anything which matters the most is performance in big tournaments- WC and CT.
Barring the 2011 WC final where he played a great knock after the platform waa set by Gambhir, his record is pretty absymal in every other ICC tournaments he played in.
There is no doubt we are talking of the guy in question who has already won WC and CT for his team but how much of that contribution was with his bat?
So, where would you rank him among greats from his era and across the eras in limited overs formats?
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