What's new

Ranking scenarios for Pakistan based on results of the South Africa v Pakistan ODI series

MenInG

PakPassion Administrator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Runs
217,855
New Zealand leg-spinner Ish Sodhi and fast bowler Lachlan Ferguson have moved up in the MRF Tyres ICC Men’s ODI Player Rankings after creditable performances during a 3-0 sweep over Sri Lanka in a home series that ended on Tuesday.

The two are now in joint-31st position after Sodhi’s eight wickets in the series helped him climb up 26 slots and Ferguson’s seven wickets lifted him 12 places to a career-best position in the list led by India fast bowler Jasprit Bumrah. Sri Lanka captain Lasith Malinga is another bowler to gain in the latest update, moving up three places to take 46th spot after finishing with seven scalps in the series.

Among batsmen, Ross Taylor and Martin Guptill have retained their third and 14th positions after scoring 281 and 153 runs, respectively, while New Zealand captain Kane Williamson has dropped out of the top-10 to 11th position. Henry Nicholls has gained 21 places to take 59th position while Colin Munro has moved up from 58th to 56th.

Niroshan Dickwella (up one place to 26th), Thisara Perera (up 22 places to 65th), Kusal Perera (up seven places to 66th) and Danushka Gunathilaka (up 11 places to 82nd) are the batsmen to gain from the Sri Lanka side. The India pair of Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma are at the top of the list.

In the MRF Tyres ICC Men’s ODI Team Rankings, New Zealand have retained third position after blanking the opposition. They have gained one point to move up to 113 while Sri Lanka remain in eighth position but have lost one point to drop to 78 points.

Meanwhile, more sides will be looking to move up the rankings while also preparing for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 in England and Wales from 30 May to 14 July, with 13 matches scheduled in a period of just over three weeks. India get a chance to close the gap with table leaders England, and South Africa of moving up from their fourth position.

India, who play three matches against Australia and five against New Zealand, could reach 125 points and within one point of England if they are able to win all eight matches while Pakistan need to beat South Africa 5-0 in order to overtake them.

Series scenarios:

Australia v India:

· India win 3-0: India 122 points, Australia 98 points

· India win 2-1: India 120, Australia 100

· Australia win 2-1: India 119, Australia 102

· Australia win 3-0: India 117, Australia 104


South Africa v Pakistan:

· South Africa win 5-0: South Africa 115 points, Pakistan 98 points

· South Africa win 4-1: South Africa 113, Pakistan 99

· South Africa win 3-2: South Africa 111, Pakistan 101

· Pakistan win 3-2: South Africa 109, Pakistan 103

· Pakistan win 4-1: South Africa 107, Pakistan 105

· Pakistan win 5-0: Pakistan 108, South Africa 105




The scenarios of the New Zealand-India series depend on the results of the Australia-India series. The predictor function is available here



Upcoming fixtures



Australia v India:



12 January: 1st ODI, Sydney

15 January: 2nd ODI, Adelaide

18 January: 3rd ODI, Melbourne



South Africa v Pakistan:

19 January: 1st ODI, Port Elizabeth

22 January: 2nd ODI, Durban

25 January: 3rd ODI, Centurion

27 January: 4th ODI, Johannesburg

30 January: 5th ODI, Cape Town



New Zealand v India:



23 January: 1st ODI, Napier

26 January: 2nd ODI, Tauranga

28 January: 3rd ODI, Tauranga

31 January: 4th ODI, Hamilton

3 February: 5th ODI, Wellington



MRF Tyres ICC ODI Team Rankings (as of 9 January, after the New Zealand-Sri Lanka series):



Rank Team Points

1. England 126

2. India 121

3. New Zealand 113

4. South Africa 111

5. Pakistan 102

6. Australia 100

7. Bangladesh 93

8. Sri Lanka 78

9. West Indies 72

10. Afghanistan 67

11. Zimbabwe 52

12. Ireland 39

13. Scotland 33

14. UAE 21



Nepal will qualify for a full ranking after playing one more ODI, the Netherlands will qualify for a full ranking after playing two more matches.



(Developed by David Kendix)



MRF Tyres ICC Test Player Rankings (as of 9 January, after the New Zealand-Sri Lanka series)



Batsmen (top 20)



Rank (+/-) Player Team Pts Avge Highest Rating

1 ( - ) Virat Kohli Ind 899 59.83 911 v Eng at Headingley 2018

2 ( - ) Rohit Sharma Ind 871! 47.78 871 v Win at Thiruvananthapur 2018

3 ( - ) Ross Taylor NZ 823! 47.91 823 v SL at Nelson 2019

4 ( - ) Joe Root Eng 807 51.52 824 v SL at Dambulla 2018

5 ( - ) Babar Azam Pak 802 51.52 846 v NZ at Wellington 2018

6 ( - ) David Warner Aus 791 43.43 880 v Pak at Adelaide 2017

7 ( - ) Faf du Plessis SA 785 45.12 802 v Ind at Durban 2018

8 ( - ) Shai Hope Win 780! 47.48 780 v Ban at Sylhet 2018

9 ( - ) S. Dhawan Ind 767 45.69 813 v Pak at Dubai 2018

10 (+1) Q. de Kock SA 754 44.44 808 v Ban at East London 2017

11 (-1) K. Williamson NZ 744 46.22 798 v SA at Centurion 2015

12 ( - ) Fakhar Zaman Pak 729*! 57.95 729 v NZ at Dubai 2018

13 ( - ) Jonny Bairstow Eng 726 48.02 777 v Aus at Durham 2018

14 ( - ) Martin Guptill NZ 715 43.16 789 v SA at Hamilton 2017

15= ( - ) M. Rahim Ban 712! 34.94 712 v Win at Sylhet 2018

( - ) Tamim Iqbal Ban 712 36.64 737 v Win at St Kitts 2018

17 ( - ) Hashim Amla SA 707 49.65 901 v Eng at Trent Bridge 2012

18 ( - ) Aaron Finch Aus 690 37.56 744 v Eng at Melbourne 2015

19 ( - ) Jos Buttler Eng 685 39.70 723 v Ban at Mirpur 2016

20 ( - ) Eoin Morgan Eng 675 38.57 690 v Aus at The Oval 2010



Bowlers (top 20)



Rank (+/-) Player Team Pts Avge Eco Highest Rating

1 ( - ) Jasprit Bumrah Ind 841! 21.01 4.44 841 v Win at Thiruvananthapur 2018

2 ( - ) Rashid Khan Afg 788 14.47 3.90 806 v Pak at Abu Dhabi 2018

3 ( - ) Kuldeep Yadav Ind 723*! 20.07 4.73 723 v Win at Thiruvananthapur 2018

4 ( - ) Kagiso Rabada SA 702 26.10 5.00 724 v Eng at Lord's 2017

5 ( - ) M. Rahman Ban 695! 20.56 4.58 695 v Win at Sylhet 2018

6= ( - ) Y. Chahal Ind 683* 25.55 4.75 696 v Win at Guwahati 2018

( - ) Adil Rashid Eng 683 30.42 5.50 687 v SL at Pallekele 2018

8 (+1) M. Ur Rahman Afg 679* 19.06 3.84 691 v Ban at Abu Dhabi 2018

9 (+1) J. Hazlewood Aus 675 25.15 4.73 733 v Eng at Adelaide 2018

10 (-2) Trent Boult NZ 665 25.78 5.19 766 v Ind at Delhi 2016

11 ( - ) Imran Tahir SA 664 24.33 4.69 786 v SL at Johannesburg 2017

12 (+1) Hasan Ali Pak 646 23.41 5.31 766 v NZ at Wellington 2018

13 (+1) Chris Woakes Eng 642 30.64 5.51 673 v NZ at Christchurch 2018

14 (-2) A. Dananjaya SL 641* 26.93 5.15 651 v Eng at Colombo (RPS) 2018

15 ( - ) Dale Steyn SA 638 25.70 4.87 746 v Ind at Durban 2013

16 ( - ) M. Nabi Afg 633 31.44 4.25 653 v Zim at Harare 2017

17 ( - ) Mitchell Starc Aus 632 21.44 4.95 783 v NZ at Melbourne 2015

18 (+1) Pat Cummins Aus 616 29.73 5.31 629 v SA at Adelaide 2018

19 (-1) M. Santner NZ 613 33.91 4.90 663 v Eng at Hamilton 2018

20 ( - ) Tim Murtagh Ire 602 29.74 4.48 613 v Zim at Harare 2018



All-rounders (top five)



Rank (+/-) Player Team Pts Highest Rating

1 ( - ) Rashid Khan Afg 353*/ 359 v Pak at Abu Dhabi 2018

2 ( - ) Shakib Al Hasan Ban 352 453 v Zim at Chittagong 2009

3 ( - ) Mohammad Nabi Afg 337 349 v Ire at Greater Noida 2017

4 ( - ) M. Hafeez Pak 311 438 v Ind at Kolkata 2013

5 ( - ) M. Santner NZ 298 317 v Eng at Christchurch 2018

ICC Media Release
 
If pakistan play good cricket It would be 3-2 either way otherwise 4-1 for SA
 
I can see a repeat of the Australia ODI series from 2016, where we lose the first ODI somehow from a winning position or a position where we should capitalize the Saffers. Win the 2nd ODI with miraculous circumstances where we just about win. With the next three we just getting absolutely annihilated. South Africa 4 - 1 Pakistan
 
anything more than 4-1 (in favor of South Africa) would be a proper achievement lol for us.
 
Lol what is this defeatist mentality? SA are not NZ/full strength OZ or ENG. You should look to beat them . They are quite beatable.
 
Couldn't beat Bangladesh in home conditions, got lucky against Afghanistan.


And people think we'll defeat SA in SA
 
Couldn't beat Bangladesh in home conditions, got lucky against Afghanistan.


And people think we'll defeat SA in SA

Could surprise you - think Pak have a good ODI team; Batsmen are what they are - Just the bowlers need to help out also.
 
Couldn't beat Bangladesh in home conditions, got lucky against Afghanistan.


And people think we'll defeat SA in SA
Did pretty well against a very good NZ team. Should have won the series, had it not been for the bizarre rain interruption.

Expecting us to get smashed this ODI series though. No evidence to suggest the batsmen have got used to the bounce in South Africa.
 
I wonder what type of squad SA will name. They tend to rotate players a lot so some of their big guns may be rested.
 
Lol what is this defeatist mentality? SA are not NZ/full strength OZ or ENG. You should look to beat them . They are quite beatable.

It's not a defeatist mentality, bro. It's a coping mechanism which has rubbed off from one poster to many here. It's very easy to say "oh, I already knew this was going to happen." vs "I'm devastated we lost." when your team loses. Passion with a weak heart tends to bring out such attitudes.
 
Couldn't beat Bangladesh in home conditions, got lucky against Afghanistan.


And people think we'll defeat SA in SA

Right. Because the same team played against Bangladesh, that too very recently. There's no luck in a series win.

This is a decent ODI unit. Should make a for an entertaining and well fought series.
 
Pakistan can win 3-2 if they play out of their skin and if South Africa choke like they did last time.
 
SA are a good and at home but dang some of you guys are so negative. I know we failed in Asia cup but we did perform very well vs NZ. Could have won the series 2-1 if it wasn't for rain.

Our ODI team is actually pretty good, not the best but it defintely can compete with SA. In 2013 a much weaker Pakistan beat SA 2-1 in SA.

A lineup of:

1) Fakhar
2)Shan
3)Babar
4)Hafeez
5)Hussain Talat/Malik
6)Imad
7)Sarfraz
8)Shadab
9)Hasan
10)Amir
11) Shaheen

This team is actually pretty good. A 50+ avg batsman, Fakhar is solid, Shan can also be great if he continues his form.

Sadly Haris isn't here so middle order is a bit weaker, but all of these alrounders can be good - average 30+ with bat and around 33ish with ball with good economy. Also Hafeez/Imad/Hasan can all power hit.

Bowling attack is also quite potent.

Not a bad team at all, I'd rate it 4th or 5th best team.
 
Last year, India lost to South Africa 2-1 in tests but thrashed them 5-1 in ODIs. I have a feeling Pakistan will win 4-1. “One minute down, next minute up”.
 
Most likely its 5-0 for South Africa. No hope when a team consists of Imam, Shan, Hafeez, Sarfraz, Usman etc. Our team cannot even win against Bangladesh without 2 of their senior players in UAE where we were playing for years and how they can win even a single match against far strong team in swing condition.
 
Couldn't beat Bangladesh in home conditions, got lucky against Afghanistan.


And people think we'll defeat SA in SA
I also recall not so colorful performance by Team India against Bangladesh and even Honk Kong, but they still went to win the cup, albeit in a close run. Pak have done well since then against Australia and New Zealand.
My prediction 3-2 to either side.
 
In what universe are people seeing this Pakistan team winning anything at all?

why not we forfeit the odi series and give the trophy to SA ?last time we have beat them in odi series which was first for asian team so i don,t think why should not we hope we can win a series
 
5-0 in favor of SA. This Pak team is not capable of winning anything overseas.
 
Weak middle order
No Haris Sohail (who was key in middle overs)
Same/similar weak batting line up to the one vs new Zealand in New Zealand.
Sorry for being honest but 5-0 to SA on the cards unless we play really really well.
 
Pak beat SA in 2013 so they can do it again
This SA odi team is not as strong as the previous ones which Pak have faced

Shadab & Imad will play a major role
 
SA are a good and at home but dang some of you guys are so negative. I know we failed in Asia cup but we did perform very well vs NZ. Could have won the series 2-1 if it wasn't for rain.

Our ODI team is actually pretty good, not the best but it defintely can compete with SA. In 2013 a much weaker Pakistan beat SA 2-1 in SA.

A lineup of:

1) Fakhar
2)Shan
3)Babar
4)Hafeez
5)Hussain Talat/Malik
6)Imad
7)Sarfraz
8)Shadab
9)Hasan
10)Amir
11) Shaheen

This team is actually pretty good. A 50+ avg batsman, Fakhar is solid, Shan can also be great if he continues his form.

Sadly Haris isn't here so middle order is a bit weaker, but all of these alrounders can be good - average 30+ with bat and around 33ish with ball with good economy. Also Hafeez/Imad/Hasan can all power hit.

Bowling attack is also quite potent.

Not a bad team at all, I'd rate it 4th or 5th best team.

Do you realise that you have seven bolwing options in the team. Why not have five bowling options with more batsman.

Having 6th bowling options is a luxury we cant afford to have.

Having 7th bowling option is plain and simple suicide.

Having 8th bowling option. The captain deserve to be jailed for 100 years with no parole.
 
I also recall not so colorful performance by Team India against Bangladesh and even Honk Kong, but they still went to win the cup, albeit in a close run. Pak have done well since then against Australia and New Zealand.
My prediction 3-2 to either side.

Against Australia were T20s.

New Zealand we'll never know, in the books it's a draw.

And what does India's performances have to do with us?

Pak has not done well at all in ODIs the past year.
 
Did pretty well against a very good NZ team. Should have won the series, had it not been for the bizarre rain interruption.

Expecting us to get smashed this ODI series though. No evidence to suggest the batsmen have got used to the bounce in South Africa.

1-1 isn't pretty well tbh, if you think that is pretty well then that says it all about Pakistan in ODIs.

Yeah we'll never know, maybe NZ might have chased it? Maybe not.

Yeah 5-0 to SA.
 
1-1 isn't pretty well tbh, if you think that is pretty well then that says it all about Pakistan in ODIs.

Yeah we'll never know, maybe NZ might have chased it? Maybe not.

Yeah 5-0 to SA.

Smh
People are overestimating SA so much
They lost 5-1 against India.
I know India is a good team but it was a foreign team nonetheless.
5-1 is just embarrassing
I think this series will be pretty close
 
1-1 isn't pretty well tbh, if you think that is pretty well then that says it all about Pakistan in ODIs.

Yeah we'll never know, maybe NZ might have chased it? Maybe not.

Yeah 5-0 to SA.

NZ have never chased anything over 250 in UAE/Asia (IIRC), here they were chasing 280 and were 35/1 after 7 overs with their main and inform batsman Colin Munro back in the hut and Williamson not even playing. Yeah sure NZ would have won it :))



Anything else :yk
 
Smh
People are overestimating SA so much
They lost 5-1 against India.
I know India is a good team but it was a foreign team nonetheless.
5-1 is just embarrassing
I think this series will be pretty close

Yeah India, India and Pakistan are miles apart.

NZ have never chased anything over 250 in UAE/Asia (IIRC), here they were chasing 280 and were 35/1 after 7 overs with their main and inform batsman Colin Munro back in the hut and Williamson not even playing. Yeah sure NZ would have won it :))
Anything else :yk

And we more often than not defend 250+ but we let a second string West Indies chase 308 against us.

You never know what could have happened.
 
1-1 isn't pretty well tbh, if you think that is pretty well then that says it all about Pakistan in ODIs.

Yeah we'll never know, maybe NZ might have chased it? Maybe not.

Yeah 5-0 to SA.
On that wicket? NZ wasn't chasing that score even if they had peak McCullum in their team. Pakistan played substantially better cricket than NZ in that series, if you ignore the 30 minutes period of madness in the first game.
 
On that wicket? NZ wasn't chasing that score even if they had peak McCullum in their team. Pakistan played substantially better cricket than NZ in that series, if you ignore the 30 minutes period of madness in the first game.

If they did play better cricket, they would have won.

it was a draw in the end.
 
I also recall not so colorful performance by Team India against Bangladesh and even Honk Kong, but they still went to win the cup, albeit in a close run. Pak have done well since then against Australia and New Zealand.
My prediction 3-2 to either side.

Or maybe because BD isn't as bad as you all make it out to be ...
The only reason we did horible in the first ODI is because of TOP order ********* and Dhoni's 90ball 50. Or else, would have been easy peasy. Let's see what happens in the next odi.
 
Or maybe because BD isn't as bad as you all make it out to be ...
The only reason we did horible in the first ODI is because of TOP order ********* and Dhoni's 90ball 50. Or else, would have been easy peasy. Let's see what happens in the next odi.
The reason Pakistan lost is because of our batting. Or else, it would have been EASY PEASY.
Stop with the excuses SMH
 
Or maybe because BD isn't as bad as you all make it out to be ...
The only reason we did horible in the first ODI is because of TOP order ********* and Dhoni's 90ball 50. Or else, would have been easy peasy. Let's see what happens in the next odi.

Also don't forget India tied with Afg and wi and even lost a match against them
 
This is actually the equation that matters - If AUS wins one or both of the next 2 ODIs (IND), PAK goes to 6th, and will need to win 3-2 to regain 5th spot. If Aussies wins one, still a 3-2 win will be required. If AUS loses both, then a 3-2 loss can keep PAK at 5th. So, the summary is

To keep 5th spot for PAK, if

AUS 3 - IND 0: PAK needs to win 4-1
AUS 2 - IND 1: PAK needs to win 3-2
AUS 1 - IND 2: PAK needs to lose 2-3

Next is 6th & 7th position - only way PAK can go down below 6th spot is

PAK 0 - SAF 5, then
NZL 0 - BD 3

Therefore, more or less minimum 6th spot is guaranteed, and the Middle 2 teams will play a 5 game Series in UAE.
 
Also don't forget India tied with Afg and wi and even lost a match against them

Don't forget, that too was a B string team india sent over. Afg is no push over either. BD is definitely not a push over in ODI anymore. Who'se giving the excuses now? Also, You do realize 8/10 times this current pak full strength team will loose to the current full strength ind team? You really want to argue about the fact that india is not carrying extra bagage for no reason? Be by guest and try to prove me wrong. Dhoni should have quit after 2011 WC. Yet he keeps on playing for who knows what reason. Pant should have been the primary WK considered for WC2019, not dhoni. For all the things dhoni has done for us, when it's time to go, it's time to go. These desi players don't seem to know when to call it a quit.
 
If they did play better cricket, they would have won.

it was a draw in the end.
I'm not sure what rain abandoning play in the first ten overs of the second innings has to do with the quality of cricket Pakistan played.
 
Let’s not worry about the rankings. Let’s try to find the right combination for the World Cup.
 
A lot depends on which Fakhar turns up. He played very well in the ODIs against NZ. Seemed to have worked on his weakness on the pads. SA will pepper him with short bowling, depending on how he handles that, he may enjoy the pacy SA pitches more. His record outside Asia on the faster wickets is much better than dust bowls of UAE.

I would really consider trying to get Shan in the team somehow but looks very difficult. Pakistan will likely play both Shadab and Imad, with Hassan, Shaheen and Amir being fast bowlers. Hafeez 6th option. If we add Masood, it would have to be Malik that makes way and current team is not going to chop him based on his experience alone. Only way for Masood to play is of either opener has 2 poor games in the first 2 games.
 
A lot depends on which Fakhar turns up. He played very well in the ODIs against NZ. Seemed to have worked on his weakness on the pads. SA will pepper him with short bowling, depending on how he handles that, he may enjoy the pacy SA pitches more. His record outside Asia on the faster wickets is much better than dust bowls of UAE.

I would really consider trying to get Shan in the team somehow but looks very difficult. Pakistan will likely play both Shadab and Imad, with Hassan, Shaheen and Amir being fast bowlers. Hafeez 6th option. If we add Masood, it would have to be Malik that makes way and current team is not going to chop him based on his experience alone. Only way for Masood to play is of either opener has 2 poor games in the first 2 games.

Masood will start ahead of imam.
He should be our first choice opener
 
Masood will start ahead of imam.
He should be our first choice opener

if imam doesn't play then he is a lock in for the world cup 15

it's better if imam plays and fails (which he fail) and masood gets to open with fakhar in the remaining odis of the year
 
A 3-2 series win either way does nothing bad or good for us in terms of overall ranking.

If South Africa win , we lose 1 point to 101.

If Pakistan wins, we gain 1 point to 103.

Rankings not to be affected.
 
Don't forget, that too was a B string team india sent over. Afg is no push over either. BD is definitely not a push over in ODI anymore. Who'se giving the excuses now? Also, You do realize 8/10 times this current pak full strength team will loose to the current full strength ind team? You really want to argue about the fact that india is not carrying extra bagage for no reason? Be by guest and try to prove me wrong. Dhoni should have quit after 2011 WC. Yet he keeps on playing for who knows what reason. Pant should have been the primary WK considered for WC2019, not dhoni. For all the things dhoni has done for us, when it's time to go, it's time to go. These desi players don't seem to know when to call it a quit.

So India without Kohli is a b team.
Bumrah was there kumar was there. What else do u want?
 
I guess Chokli was wrong here and some of us who predicted much closer contest should be happy with Pak performance. Let us hope Pak win 3-2 to continue their progressing after their good work in the New Zealand series.
 
Back
Top