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Ab de Villiers
Hashim Amla
Virat Kohli
Adam Gilchrist
Sanath Jayasuriya
Brian Lara
Mark Waugh
Saed Anwar
 
Ab de Villiers - 9
Hashim Amla - 7.5
Virat Kohli - 9.5
Adam Gilchrist - 9
Sanath Jayasuriya - 8.5
Brian Lara - 8
Mark Waugh - 8.5
Saed Anwar - 8.5
 
Ab de Villiers - 9
Hashim Amla - 9
Virat Kohli - 8 (because of his failures in seaming conditions)
Adam Gilchrist - 9.5
Sanath Jayasuriya - 8
Brian Lara - 10
Mark Waugh - 9
Saed Anwar - 9.5
 
Ab de Villiers - 9 - Par with Virat for me right now, has done everything except perform in knockout matches

Virat Kohli - 9 - Has performed against all oppositions and in most situations, just need an amazing WC

Adam Gilchrist - 7.5 - More impactful than his record suggests, a team player through and through

Brian Lara - 7.5 - carried WI in every format, but still lacked than X factor in ODIs that Sachin had in ODIs and he himself had in tests

Hashim Amla - 7.5 - Amazing record but always ALWAYS fails when it matters

Sanath Jayasuriya - 7 - Revolutionary in a way, and if his bowling is also considered, would give him 8.5

Mark Waugh - 6.5 - Classy player, not much to add tbh

Saeed Anwar - 6.5 - Averages less than 26 in Australia, NZ and SA over a good sample size(lol). Played well against us but we had a horrible team then. Very average against good oppositions though
 
Ab de Villiers - 9/10
Virat Kohli- 9/10
Adam Gilchrist - 9/10
Sanath Jayasuriya -8.5/10
Brian Lara - 8.5/10
Mark Waugh -8.5/10
Saed Anwar - 8.5/10
Hashim Amla - 7.75/10
 
Ab de Villiers - 8.75/10
Virat Kohli- 9.5/10
Adam Gilchrist - 8/10
Sanath Jayasuriya -8.5/10
Brian Lara - 8/10
Mark Waugh -8/10
Saed Anwar - 8.5/10
Hashim Amla - 9/10
 
Mamoon said:
Ab de Villiers - 9
Hashim Amla - 7.5
Virat Kohli - 9.5
Adam Gilchrist - 9
Sanath Jayasuriya - 8.5
Brian Lara - 8
Mark Waugh - 8.5
Saed Anwar - 8.5
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mine are exactly the same ,... a bit confused about lara.CAN we ad .5 for him??
 
DRsohail said:
mine are exactly the same ,... a bit confused about lara.CAN we ad .5 for him??
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Lara was brilliant in ODIs in the 90's, especially as an opener. However, his performances dipped in the 2000's. I think 8 is fair for him, he is better than Amla but Saeed, Waugh and Jayasuriya were a little better than him.
 
AB - 9.5/10
Virat - 9.5/10
Hashim - 8/10
Gilchrist - 9/10
Jayasuriya - 8/10
Lara - 8/10
Waugh - 7.5/10
Anwar - 8.5/10
 
Ab de Villiers -9
Hashim Amla -8
Virat Kohli -9.5
Adam Gilchrist -9
Sanath Jayasuriya -9
Brian Lara -8.5
Mark Waugh -8
Saed Anwar -8.5
 
Ab de Villiers 9/10
Hashim Amla 8/10
Virat Kohli 9.5/10
Adam Gilchrist 9/10
Sanath Jayasuriya 8/10
Brian Lara 8/10
Mark Waugh 8.5/10
Saed Anwar 8.5/10
 
Mamoon said:
Lara was brilliant in ODIs in the 90's, especially as an opener. However, his performances dipped in the 2000's. I think 8 is fair for him, he is better than Amla but Saeed, Waugh and Jayasuriya were a little better than him.
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yess but most posters are giving amla more than given by u and me..amla has good stats but ordinary as a match winner.
 
Ab de Villiers - 9
Revolutionized the game,but no icc tourneys in his kitty.

Hashim Amla -7.5
Good player.But choker.

Virat Kohli - 9
Chase king.Clear all time great in odi.Only needs to win a wc with man of tourney or great performances in final/semi- final to be 10 out of 10.

Adam Gilchrist - 9
Revolutionized wicketkeeper's role.Brutal big match player.

Sanath Jayasuriya -9
8 as batsman,plus 1 for being a effective bowler.Revolutionized opening.Prime role in 1996 victory.

Brian Lara -7.5
Not nearly as good in odis as in tests.

Mark Waugh 7
Good player but not ATG.

Saed Anwar -7
Same as waugh.Very elegant but not ATG.

For me the only 10 out of 10 is Viv richards.If kohli or ABD can win a wc on tehir ability,with performances in s emis/final they will be 10.Tendu for me is 2nd with 9.5.Had he won the 96 semi,2003 final or 2011 final on his own he would have been 10,but he scored a ton of runs overall in world cups including in quarters,defacto knockout matches like vs pak in 2003 and semis.
 
austerlitz said:
Ab de Villiers - 9
Revolutionized the game,but no icc tourneys in his kitty.

Hashim Amla -7.5
Good player.But choker.

Virat Kohli - 9
Chase king.Clear all time great in odi.Only needs to win a wc with man of tourney or great performances in final/semi- final to be 10 out of 10.

Adam Gilchrist - 9
Revolutionized wicketkeeper's role.Brutal big match player.

Sanath Jayasuriya -9
8 as batsman,plus 1 for being a effective bowler.Revolutionized opening.Prime role in 1996 victory.

Brian Lara -7.5
Not nearly as good in odis as in tests.

Mark Waugh 7
Good player but not ATG.

Saed Anwar -7
Same as waugh.Very elegant but not ATG.

For me the only 10 out of 10 is Viv richards.If kohli or ABD can win a wc on tehir ability,with performances in s emis/final they will be 10.Tendu for me is 2nd with 9.5.Had he won the 96 semi,2003 final or 2011 final on his own he would have been 10,but he scored a ton of runs overall in world cups including in quarters,defacto knockout matches like vs pak in 2003 and semis.
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In ODIs, the WK role was revolutionized before Gilchrist. However, he certainly changed the role of WK in Tests forever.
 
Considering them as players

Ab de Villiers - 9
Hashim Amla - 8
Virat Kohli - 9
Adam Gilchrist - 9
Sanath Jayasuriya - 8.5
Brian Lara - 9
Mark Waugh - 8.25
Saeed Anwar - 8.5
 
DRsohail said:
who did that??MOIN.KALU???
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New Zealand's Ian Smith to be precise, the first modern hard-hitting WK batsman in ODIs. However, Kaluwitharana was the first WK batsmen to be used as an aggressive opener instead of a lower-order dasher.
 
ABDV: 9.5
Amla: 8.5
Kohli: 8.5
Gilly: 7.5
Jayasuriya: 7.5
Lara: 8
Anwar: 7.5

AB is the only bonafide ATG out of this group. Amla and Kohli can get there depending on the next few years. Gilly, Jayasuriya and Anwar were all similar players who did their jobs very well. Lara was the toughest to rate.

Not sure about Waugh, haven't seen much of him.
 
^ I rated the above solely as batsman to make it an easier job.
 
DRsohail said:
yess but most posters are giving amla more than given by u and me..amla has good stats but ordinary as a match winner.
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24 of Amla's 26 centuries were match-winning ones. Look at his average in wins if you need more convincing.
 
Bilal7 said:
24 of Amla's 26 centuries were match-winning ones. Look at his average in wins if you need more convincing.
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we have given him 7.5 for that but to be having more than 8 he has to perform on big occasions and pressure situation and wwe have waiting for almost a decade but he has not done yet.
 
Bilal7 said:
ABDV: 9.5
Amla: 8.5
Kohli: 8.5
Gilly: 7.5
Jayasuriya: 7.5
Lara: 8
Anwar: 7.5

AB is the only bonafide ATG out of this group. Amla and Kohli can get there depending on the next few years. Gilly, Jayasuriya and Anwar were all similar players who did their jobs very well. Lara was the toughest to rate.

Not sure about Waugh, haven't seen much of him.
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kohli should get 9.5 ,amla and kohli are not the same,going by stats he can be but u know and should differentiate it.
 
hashim amla average 29 in wc against all excluding neterlands and ireland with no hundred against the major test playing nations [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION].
 
and even if u include it his average is 42 which shows how much poor he has been and has never performed in crunch moments but going by ststs he is also poor.
 
DRsohail said:
and even if u include it his average is 42 which shows how much poor he has been and has never performed in crunch moments but going by ststs he is also poor.
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DRsohail said:
kohli should get 9.5 ,amla and kohli are not the same,going by stats he can be but u know and should differentiate it.
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Kohli has a similar average in World Cups and unlike Amla, he hasn't participated in one at home. Other than World Cups, there really is nothing to separate them since one is a master at setting targets and being proficient under every type of condition and the other is a master at chasing and finishing.

DRsohail said:
we have given him 7.5 for that but to be having more than 8 he has to perform on big occasions and pressure situation and wwe have waiting for almost a decade but he has not done yet.
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What are these big occasions and pressure situations?
 
Bilal7 said:
Kohli has a similar average in World Cups and unlike Amla, he hasn't participated in one at home. Other than World Cups, there really is nothing to separate them since one is a master at setting targets and being proficient under every type of condition and the other is a master at chasing and finishing.



What are these big occasions and pressure situations?
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kohli has 88 average in champions trophies and has been a profilic run chaser plus his over all stats are better than Amla.back in 2011 he was not an established player u know but he performed decently with the bat.has a good knock in CT FINAL as well.no way both can be given same rating.
 
Ab de Villiers 9/10
Hashim Amla 6/10
Virat Kohli 9/10
Adam Gilchrist 8/10
Sanath Jayasuriya 8/10
Brian Lara 7/10
Mark Waugh 8/10
Saeed Anwar 8/10
 
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DRsohail said:
kohli has 88 average in champions trophies and has been a profilic run chaser plus his over all stats are better than Amla.back in 2011 he was not an established player u know but he performed decently with the bat.has a good knock in CT FINAL as well.no way both can be given same rating.
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Amla also averaged 50+ in the latest CT and has been prolific in setting targets and scoring mountains of runs at quick pace. He's broken several of the world records that Kohli has set, as a result.

Kohli was established in 2015 though, was he not? It did not help much, however because him and his chasing ability wilted under the pressure and he came up with an innings of 1(13).

The CT '13 final was a T20 match so it is not surprising that Kohli did well. In the 50 overs version, at the peak of his powers he failed.

Amla and Kohli are definitely two of the top three ODI batsmen of this era but they have to improve their WC records and/or eliminate their other flaws to become ATGs like ABDV. 8.5 is the most accurate rating for both of them.
 
Bilal7 said:
Amla also averaged 50+ in the latest CT and has been prolific in setting targets and scoring mountains of runs at quick pace. He's broken several of the world records that Kohli has set, as a result.

Kohli was established in 2015 though, was he not? It did not help much, however because him and his chasing ability wilted under the pressure and he came up with an innings of 1(13).

The CT '13 final was a T20 match so it is not surprising that Kohli did well. In the 50 overs version, at the peak of his powers he failed.

Amla and Kohli are definitely two of the top three ODI batsmen of this era but they have to improve their WC records and/or eliminate their other flaws to become ATGs like ABDV. 8.5 is the most accurate rating for both of them.
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Was eating bricks against Ind and Pak when it mattered the most.
 
Bilal7 said:
Amla also averaged 50+ in the latest CT and has been prolific in setting targets and scoring mountains of runs at quick pace. He's broken several of the world records that Kohli has set, as a result.

Kohli was established in 2015 though, was he not? It did not help much, however because him and his chasing ability wilted under the pressure and he came up with an innings of 1(13).

The CT '13 final was a T20 match so it is not surprising that Kohli did well. In the 50 overs version, at the peak of his powers he failed.

Amla and Kohli are definitely two of the top three ODI batsmen of this era but they have to improve their WC records and/or eliminate their other flaws to become ATGs like ABDV. 8.5 is the most accurate rating for both of them.
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amla hs 35 average in CT plus he lacks 2nd gear as a bat.still remember when he choked on 98 against us.
 
DRsohail said:
it is better to be finalist by carrying team there rather than eliminated in group stages despite being favorite,
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Yeah, it is. However, Dhawan was India's star batsman, not Kohli.

Anyways, I don't see any significant reason for Kohli to be ranked higher. If you do, then we can agree to disagree.
 
Ab de Villiers - 7
Hashim Amla - 6.5
Virat Kholi - 3.5
Adam Gilchrist - 6.5
Sanath Jayasuriya - 6.5
Brian Lara - 6.5
Mark Waugh - dont really know
Saeed Anwar - 6.5
 
generally looks like Amla is way underrated mostly by PP'ers surprisingly, and Gilchrist is a bit over-rated. (He was better in tests, even though granted, he played a lot of gun ODI innings as well)
 
Bilal7 said:
Kohli definitely showed him how its done in the final, eh?
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Kohli has a record 18 centuries in chasing, pressure situations are not only in wc or ct. His performance in asia cup against pak (183)was a thriller in pressure situation. His str rate is better than amla and in odis he has proved himself in all conditions.While kohli has not performed in the finals or semifinals of a wc but he has played much better than amla in group stages. His knock of 35 in wc 2011 was good for a first timer.
In wc 2015 semi and ct we were chasing 300+ in finals which has never been done by any batting lineup/batsman let alone kohli.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Kohli has a record 18 centuries in chasing, pressure situations are not only in wc or ct. His performance in asia cup against pak (183)was a thriller in pressure situation. His str rate is better than amla and in odis he has proved himself in all conditions.While kohli has not performed in the finals or semifinals of a wc but he has played much better than amla in group stages. His knock of 35 in wc 2011 was good for a first timer.
In wc 2015 semi and ct we were chasing 300+ in finals which has never been done by any batting lineup/batsman let alone kohli.
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WC matches have more pressure than regular matches. I don't think I've ever said that bilateral ODIs do not have their own pressure. I'm not one of those that discredits a player's whole career just because he failed a few times at the World Cup.

I gave Kohli a 8.5 because I do rate him highly as an ODI batsman.
 
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