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Real Madrid defeat Juventus 4-1 in the final to win the 2016-17 UEFA Champions League

Congratulations, Real fans. Blessing in disguise that I missed most of the game due to Taraweeh and shopping. :))

Remember when you said the Juve defence was 'watertight' because Messi couldn't breach it.

Then Ronaldo just steps up like that and proves his GOAT status.
 
Out side that wonderful Barca team in a particular system, Messi won't stand up even by the side of Enzo Fransiscoli. Ball playing quality in not only his monopoly among Latin players; but not everyone had that Barca team to play around & the protection you get from referee in Spain for wearing 2 types of shirts there. His Argentina show indicates what he'll do in EPL or Bundes Liga.

Sure, he will flop in Premier League. After all, Aguero, Torres, Sanchez, Mata, Silva, Ozil, Michu and Cazorla are all superior players of his era, who came from La Liga and excelled in the Premier League.
 
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Shirts taken off by Messi: 10000

Chokes: 100000000

Trophies: 0

But but He's the GOAT looks so stylish on the pitch :yk

La liga and CL are trophies not worthy of being counted when RM isn't winning them.. :p
 
La liga and CL are trophies not worthy of being counted when RM isn't winning them.. :p

Well said, there jokes are seriously not funny; the biggest Joke is how they put a joke in Messi on the pedestal he most certainly does not deserve, he don't compare to Brazilian Ronaldo let alone CR7
 
Remember when you said the Juve defence was 'watertight' because Messi couldn't breach it.

Then Ronaldo just steps up like that and proves his GOAT status.

And it took him just 20 minutes to breach that defence! he took them apart like Tyson did Spinks!
 
Sure, he will flop in Premier League. After all, Aguero, Torres, Sanchez, Mata, Silva, Ozil, Michu and Cazorla are all superior players of his era, who came from La Liga and excelled in the Premier League.

Iago Aspas was dumped by Liverpool - now he is roosting La Liga; Falcon looked like Heski in EPL & Fat Ronaldo in La Liga - what's your point?
 
[MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=131867]London_Lahori[/MENTION] me singing to all the Messi and Barca fans right now:


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That's the thing I hate about Ronaldo fan boys. Join the football watching train from Champions League round of 16 and by the final let out the fatwas. I wish for once rm boys watch the whole la liga season, just once.

Are you saying performances in the round of 16 don't matter lmao?
 
Remember when you said the Juve defence was 'watertight' because Messi couldn't breach it.

Then Ronaldo just steps up like that and proves his GOAT status.

I congratulated your lot. Now stop holding grudges. :afridi1

Also, Monaco, one of Europe's best attacks was ruthlessly nullified by them. Not sure what went wrong today, but I heard a couple of deflections went against them.
 
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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] I'd buy you Chicken Karahi and Kemma Karahi with a family naan at Akbars if I could! we could celebrate Ronaldo's performance together :yk

That's a deal, there is no if or buts when it comes to food :inzi

Although Ronaldo is a former Utd player, you cannot hate one of the greatest of all time and someone who does so much more charity esp Palestine, Syria etc. And Zidane is in my top 3 of all time favourite players, happy for the both.

Enjoy it Real Madrid because next season Liverpool are back in the Champions Leauge :klopp
 
Brilliant game by the unsung heroes Toni Kroos and Modric. They absolutely shutdown Juve in the second half. Dont know what Allegri was thinking starting khedira and pjanic as the only mids.

Also, Higuain goes missing in another finals. Once a choker always a choker.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cristiano Ronaldo when it mattered: <br>vs. Bayern ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽<br>vs. Atletico ⚽⚽⚽<br>vs. Juventus ⚽⚽ <a href="https://t.co/nIkOvLbVeP">pic.twitter.com/nIkOvLbVeP</a></p>— B/R Football (@brfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/871109725722746883">3 June 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most Champions League goals & assists since 2012/13:<br> <br>Cristiano Ronaldo (84)<br>Leo Messi (53)<br>Robert Lewandowski (47)<br> <br>31 clear... &#55357;&#56399; <a href="https://t.co/YNzLwkiZPc">pic.twitter.com/YNzLwkiZPc</a></p>— Squawka Football (@Squawka) <a href="https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/871111300373458944">June 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Real Madrid. What a team. The balance of power has well and truly shifted in Spain.
 
Brilliant game by the unsung heroes Toni Kroos and Modric. They absolutely shutdown Juve in the second half. Dont know what Allegri was thinking starting khedira and pjanic as the only mids.

Also, Higuain goes missing in another finals. Once a choker always a choker.

Modric deserves MotM.

Absolute class.Him and Kroos have been absolutely vital for Madrid in this season.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most Champions League goals & assists since 2012/13:<br> <br>Cristiano Ronaldo (84)<br>Leo Messi (53)<br>Robert Lewandowski (47)<br> <br>31 clear... �� <a href="https://t.co/YNzLwkiZPc">pic.twitter.com/YNzLwkiZPc</a></p>— Squawka Football (@Squawka) <a href="https://twitter.com/Squawka/status/871111300373458944">June 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Stop it! PLEASE :(

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Iago Aspas was dumped by Liverpool - now he is roosting La Liga; Falcon looked like Heski in EPL & Fat Ronaldo in La Liga - what's your point?

My point is that inferior (but world class nonetheless) players to Messi have come from La Liga to Premier League and thrived, in spite of the so-called 'physical' nature of the league. Some of these players are actually less physical than Messi, who has held his own against defenders twice his size and left them on their backsides.

In fact, I don't recall a single creative and skillful - physical or not - player who has come from La Liga to the Premier League in the last decade and failed. It is ridiculous to suggest that Messi will fail in the PL.

Falcao is not the best example. He was not given enough time and opportunities by Man United and Chelsea after his ACL injury, which is not a minor problem. It can end careers and generally takes a good year or so for the player to find his groove. Yes Ligue 1 is easier to play in than the Premier League, but same Falcao destroyed City in the Champions League. He did not fail in England because he was not a good enough player to do well there, unless you are implying that Giroud is a better number 9 than him.

Obviously, outliers are always there. However, we have seen a consistent pattern of technically good and skillful who have come to the Premier League from La Liga and thrived, and Messi is better than every single one of them, unless you want to argue that he can't shoot like Aguero, can't pass like Ozil, can't dribble like Sanchez and is physically weaker than Silva and Torres.
 
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Ronaldo is the greatest goalscorer I have seen.
 
Juventus in the the 2nd half was one of the worst display of football for a Champion League Final.
 
My point is that inferior (but world class nonetheless) players to Messi have come from La Liga to Premier League and thrived, in spite of the so-called 'physical' nature of the league. Some of these players are actually less physical than Messi, who has held his own against defenders twice his size and left them on their backsides.

In fact, I don't recall a single creative and skillful - physical or not - player who has come from La Liga to the Premier League in the last decade and failed. It is ridiculous to suggest that Messi will fail in the PL.

Falcao is not the best example. He was not given enough time and opportunities by Man United and Chelsea after his ACL injury, which is not a minor problem. It can end careers and generally takes a good year or so for the player to find his groove. Yes Ligue 1 is easier to play in than the Premier League, but same Falcao destroyed City in the Champions League. He did not fail in England because he was not a good enough player to do well there, unless you are implying that Giroud is a better number 9 than him.

Obviously, outliers are always there. However, we have seen a consistent pattern of technically good and skillful who have come to the Premier League from La Liga and thrived, and Messi is better than every single one of them, unless you want to argue that he can't shoot like Aguero, can't pass like Ozil, can't dribble like Sanchez and is physically weaker than Silva and Torres.

He would have been among top players in EPL, if not top - BUT, he won't have been Barca's Messi there, never. I am sure you know the difference.

CR is CR for Sporting, for MU, for Real, for Pourtugal, for football.
 
Are you saying performances in the round of 16 don't matter lmao?

I'm saying performances before the round of 16 matter as much, you know the time when Marcello, Isco and Modric were single-handedly carrying the team and the GOAT was nowhere to be seen :ashwin
 
The whole midfield was awful, couldn't string two passes together and supply it to Higuain

Higuain was running like a malnutrioned sail, I'm sure the passes would have not made any difference whatsoever.
 
He would have been among top players in EPL, if not top - BUT, he won't have been Barca's Messi there, never. I am sure you know the difference.

CR is CR for Sporting, for MU, for Real, for Pourtugal, for football.
What do you base you expert analysis on? Maybe the fact that Messi has failed whenever he faced a PL club? Or is it something else? Or maybe you just have a "feeling".

This question will only be answered if one day a club manages to gather enough money to buy Messi and he plays in a different league.
 
What do you base you expert analysis on? Maybe the fact that Messi has failed whenever he faced a PL club? Or is it something else? Or maybe you just have a "feeling".

This question will only be answered if one day a club manages to gather enough money to buy Messi and he plays in a different league.

I don't back feelings - I am stating facts. Both are outstanding players - one has won almost everything for one club & never stepped out of that. Other also has won almost everything - for 3 different set up, different colleagues, different context.

May be Team like Real found out where it's worth to spend obnoxious money. Club football is run by businessmen - they won't gather money if the value isn't worth the product. Messi is a La Messia product & Barca made his buyout clause untouchable - it's not about being able to buy him, at least 5 clubs can do that (buy out his release clause); it's about value for money.
 
the funny thing is ronaldo fans are using a match to prove his superiority over messi in which he was not even the best player of his team.it was clearly modrich.completely dominated the juventus midfield in the 2-d half
 
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Fair play to him, Juventus didn't have the luck on the day.
 
Amazing.This is an incredible achievement.Forever in the history books

Zidane might not be a great tactician but he's a great motivator. I have no idea what he told the players at half time, but two very different teams came out of the dressing room.....the way madrid played 2nd half is just unreal

Never imagined madrid will tear out the immovable defence of europe with such ease

3 in 4 years, in the Champions League era, is just unbelievable.The greatest Football club Ever

Hallaaaaaaaaaaa Madrid
 
Unbelievable and unreal from ronaldo,he needs to have a new word invented to describe his greatness.He made fun of world's top defences in successive games and just won a CL and laliga in a literal manner.This years ballon d 'or and fifa best player award is a cakewalk for him

Long live king cristiano
 
Christiano might end up as a bigger/better footballer than Messi the way things are going. Panama gate hasn't helped.

Congrats to Ronaldo still remember him crying in 2004 Euro,has come a long way since.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] What say about yesterday's ronaldo's perfo.He just tear out the best defence in europe who shuts the mighty trio of barca for 180 minutes.When we watch closely ronaldo's game is not aesthetically beautiful but he just has the jaguar instinct so its almost impossible to defend against him and that unreal areal ability in air makes it almost intolerable to keep his name away from scoring sheets,he knows where the ball will come and how to finish it.Yesterday that modric cross was pretty random but ronnie just knew where the ball would come and he made most of it. His off the ball movement and runs into the box are just godly.its why he scores so many goals makes it look easy .He is just a beast in that aspect,very hard to follow in whatever manner others trained
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] What say about yesterday's ronaldo's perfo.He just tear out the best defence in europe who shuts the mighty trio of barca for 180 minutes.When we watch closely ronaldo's game is not aesthetically beautiful but he just has the jaguar instinct so its almost impossible to defend against him and that unreal areal ability in air makes it almost intolerable to keep his name away from scoring sheets,he knows where the ball will come and how to finish it.Yesterday that modric cross was pretty random but ronnie just knew where the ball would come and he made most of it. His off the ball movement and runs into the box are just godly.its why he scores so many goals makes it look easy .He is just a beast in that aspect,very hard to follow in whatever manner others trained

I think, Italian defense will always do better against Latin teams/players. Their defensive tactics is better man marking against ball players while Zonal marking with off-side traps against faster players. This has been the case for almost entire history - Italy probably has the best record against Latin teams from Europe.

If you look at CR's goals, he actually came from behind of his marker with last few steps burst of speed & he always kept himself well behind last man (Chellini), because he knows if the Italians use high line for zonal marking, he can beat anyone at straight line speed for 35 metres. I don't think he was off-side even once (was once, but referee allowed to run the game as GK gathered the ball). Messi is outstanding in 1 on 1, or even 1 on 2 & he is unstoppable within 35 metres of Goal keeper, with ball in feet; but Italians will use their mean tactics to restrict him - double man marking, small fouls, shirt pulling, soft kicks from behind, body block - fouls that often referees don't/can't call around box. CR didn't gave them that chance today - stayed comfortably behind his marker, spread the ball wide & ran in to squire balls - he should have got a hat-trick, but for his miscue in last stages of 2nd half.

In his game, nobody ever can beat Messi, or may be Maradona at prime - but in his game with that wonderful Barca team. CR actually is more versatile, may be because of playing in multiple leagues with contrasting tactics, at multiple positions.
 
and the de-valuing of modrich continues. cr7 was the 3rd best player of his team in this match. modrich was comfortably the best, while i'll say casemiro was also better than him. but of course let all the accolades go to cr7
 
As a Madrid fan I'm really happy.

But lets not forget the legendary man that is coaching them, Zizuo!
 
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