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Reason(s) for Lahore Qalandars exit in PSL 2017?

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Same situation as last year where they have been knocked out at the first stage of the tournament.

Last year Azhar Ali got a lot of the blame.

This season things were supposed to be different with Brendon McCullum taking the helm as captain.

What do you feel went wrong for them?
 
Their approach towards the game was reckless and batsmen were not capable enough to cope with a hint of pressure.
 
You forgot the biggest reason.

Azhar Ali's presence in the squad and the dressing room. Guy just has that influence - anyone who goes in to bat is held back by the magical powers that Azhar possess.

Needs to be kept out of the squad, and Lahore will win.

BMacs aggressive spells just couldn't outdo Azhar's Lahori jadu.
 
I think McCullum himself has to take a fair share of the blame.

Constant changes in the batting order and 93 runs in 7 innings.
 
The lack of fast bowlers.

They were relying on Tanvir and his mirror image.
 
Did not get the team combination right.

Also their emerging picks were not good at all.
 
In such a tight tournament they gifted 2 wins to QG - once failing to chase 136 (probably last 90 at run a ball with 9/10 wickets at hand) & then allowing same team to chase 200 (last 80 at 17/over).

Then lost to KK with 2 six in last 2 balls😝........
 
Not any good batsman other than Roy.
Not any good bowler other than Narine.
Too much dependency on 2-4 players.
 
MMHS said:
In such a tight tournament they gifted 2 wins to QG - once failing to chase 136 (probably last 90 at run a ball with 9/10 wickets at hand) & then allowing same team to chase 200 (last 80 at 17/over).

Then lost to KK with 2 six in last 2 balls😝........
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In that 200 Chase KP took a real liking to their attack, They bottled it from a very strong position with some terrible bowling.
 
as i wrote in another thread. they have good start in almost all matches. priblem problem started when two batsmen are gone.they needed mature batsmens who can stay on wicket and have game awareness. instead they send umar who sould be playing late as a slogger.

bowling wise i don't think they are much different than other teams.
 
Pace bowling was weak. What the positive was Yasir Shah bowling well under Mccullums captaincy.
They need a decent pace bowler and could do with another batsmen in the middle.
Roy was a big miss when he went.
 
Plain and simple - the pace bowling department was non-existent.

tanvir was meant to be a great bowler in domestic T20's, but he failed and that was pretty much it for LQ.

Except for one game (where he hit a six), elliot's selection was also hurtful and his bowling was abysmal, where he allowed the oppositions to break free and thumped for bonus runs.
 
Roy left, he was the best batsman, and McCullum was the biggest failure of PSL in terms of batting, even bigger failure than Gayle and Azhar last season
 
Saj said:
I think McCullum himself has to take a fair share of the blame.

Constant changes in the batting order and 93 runs in 7 innings.
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Agree.

McCullum is and never was a top player in any format. Just plain reckless.

I also think Roy leaving them was a huge blow for them as he was a top performer until then.

Fakhar is just not good enough whilst the likes of Elliot are good in supporting roles but not as main "go to" players.
 
No decent pacers
McCullums poor batting form
Umar Akmal cost them a few matches especially the one against Peshawar Zalmi
 
msb314 said:
Agree.

McCullum is and never was a top player in any format. Just plain reckless.

I also think Roy leaving them was a huge blow for them as he was a top performer until then.

Fakhar is just not good enough whilst the likes of Elliot are good in supporting roles but not as main "go to" players.
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Roy 173 Runs
Umar Akmal 164
Fakhar Zaman 177
Rizwan 130


Narine 116
McCullum 93

Their top scorer is not good enough?
 
Poor bowling (lack of good options too), too aggressive when it came to batting, no real reliable players.
 
GudduBadmash said:
Roy 173 Runs
Umar Akmal 164
Fakhar Zaman 177
Rizwan 130


Narine 116
McCullum 93

Their top scorer is not good enough?
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Ever since Fakhar moved to the no. 3 position - he has struggled.

Did great as an opener with Roy during the first few games.
 
They were not able to perform in tight situations lost nearly all close encounters.

Also relying on Yasir,Tanveer and Irfan Jnr is harldy a bowling you can trust.

Mc Cullam failed miserably.
 
Barragan said:
Plain and simple - the pace bowling department was non-existent.

tanvir was meant to be a great bowler in domestic T20's, but he failed and that was pretty much it for LQ.

Except for one game (where he hit a six), elliot's selection was also hurtful and his bowling was abysmal, where he allowed the oppositions to break free and thumped for bonus runs.
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Forgot to mention, but the injury to Bhatti was a huge blow and more so than even Roy leaving.

He was looking fantastic under Baz and potentially, the best he has bowled.
 
Hawkeye said:
You forgot the biggest reason.

Azhar Ali's presence in the squad and the dressing room. Guy just has that influence - anyone who goes in to bat is held back by the magical powers that Azhar possess.

Needs to be kept out of the squad, and Lahore will win.

BMacs aggressive spells just couldn't outdo Azhar's Lahori jadu.
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:))) :))) :)))

Tbh there batting cost them. Bazs captaincy was good.
 
Brendon McCullum really did no better with the bat then Azhar he struggled throughout the whole tournament. Jason Roy leaving was a blow since he was performing good.

Then we didn't really have any pacers either there leading pacer was a ttf. Although I do think Irfan Jr had a decent tournament.

Honestly it's just sad how Lahore has been knocked out twice now without even reaching the playoffs. Last year I expected it but this year they had a pretty decent team. Guess it just wasn't to be...
 
On paper, Lahore's team looked fairly strong but I think they didn't have players with character. Umar Akmal and Sohail Tanvir are both chokers and under-achievers. The only players with the experience of winning big matches were Narine and Elliot and those 2 were key in the 3 wins they did have.
 
How can you expect to win with TTF like Sohail tanvir opening your bowling? LQ should find talented young strike bowlers to replace the has beens.
 
Mcculum's captaincy in the last match when he brought on himself instead of Fakhar and conceded 13 runs.. match and tournament losing mistake.
 
They set themselves up for failure from the start of the tournament to be honest, If you're relying on Sobers, Bhatti and a right handed Tannu to carry the death bowling every game then Good Luck reaching the playoffs.

The only reason they won the other games is due to their GunHo Kamikaze approach taking the opposition by surprise, once sides dissected their approach any half decent bowler would be able to choke a hack with a 5-4 leg side field and some short bowling..

Plus they thought Umer Akmal would again have a fluke of a tournament like Last year however, he's become a proper TTF now and failed like how everyone predicted he would before the tournament.

They need to completely revamp their strategy, squad and the approach they bring to the table.
 
Didn't perform in critical moments again and again.

That says more about the players and their ability under pressure.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
senselessly brought on himself while the match was in full control, pitch assisting spin and Yasir, Naraine and Fakhar were bowling really well .. and then didnt give Fakhar any other over who just went for 3 and took 1 wicket ..
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Sounds highly fishy


Lost all respect for Mccullum after his fiasco and backstabbing of Ross Taylor.
Pathetic ego inflated guy.
 
One ball went wrong.

Every other team just won one more game. Y'all are making it seem like Lahore was smashed every game.
 
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The whole drama about psl final in lahore will come to an end today. Final will be now held in dubai.. It was shahbaz sharief who was waiting whether the lahore qalander will qualify far playoffs are not
 
This was a bad squad by Lahore. Baz made it worse. He had no clue about the local players in the team. Too many bad players there . There were only three proper batsmen in the team. Fakhar , Delport and Baz and Baz hardly showed up. Umar Akmal is a hit and miss. Rizwan is not a T20 batsman.
 
Blame has to go to management and think tank specially Aaqib Javaid, he is fast bowler and team struggle with fast bowlers in 2 seasons, also he has no clue about players.
 
GudduBadmash said:
Roy 173 Runs
Umar Akmal 164
Fakhar Zaman 177
Rizwan 130


Narine 116
McCullum 93

Their top scorer is not good enough?
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It's not about top scorer.

Babar Azam is top scorer of Kings, but in reality he has been batting awfully and putting pressure on team because every single one of his innings is slow. Just because one scores a lot of runs doesn't mean anything in T20, because ultimately if you didn't face that number of balls somebody else would have. Strike rate is king.
 
Pathetic middle/lower order of UA, Rizwan, Tanvir. As soon as the top 3 were dismissed, we struggled to put up or chase good scores
 
Their batting was suppose to carry them but the pitches weren't really batting friendly. Thats the main reason, other teams had at least decent bowlers to help them in those conditions.
 
Although I wouldn´t put it as the sole reason, but I think McCullum´s aggressive and bold style of captaincy doesn´t quite suit the conditions in the UAE. Very often, instead of being circumspect and batting according to the situation, Lahore´s downfall has been brought about by reckless stroke-play. This kind of batting is very suited to the extreme kind of flat pitches where if one of them keeps getting away with it he gets to team to a big total, but not on pitches where even 140 or 145 can turn out to be a very competitive total.

Secondly, the bigger reason is that they don´t have any great star power, the Gayle, Pollard, Afridi, Pietersen kind of individuals capable of winning a match on their own. Roy was one but he´d to leave on international duty for England, and McCullum seems like a force spent post-retirement.
 
Brendon McCullum didn't perform with the bat

They had no bowlers except for Naraine, don't know why Gohar wasn't given a chance.

Their gung-ho batting approach, no matter what the situation is.

They still think that Umar Akmal is someone who can steer the team.
 
Sub-Zero said:
Roy left, he was the best batsman, and McCullum was the biggest failure of PSL in terms of batting, even bigger failure than Gayle and Azhar last season
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Azhar made some runs last year including an innings of 73 and some on 30s, he was not a failure. he was the 3rd highest scorer after Umer and Delport
 
Below are the reasons

1) Mcallum batting form
2) Elliot was preferred over Delport in first 4 matches
3) Zafar Gohar didn't get a chance
4) No one was capable of holing the innings. Azhar Ali who was success in holding innings last year didn't get a game. While Fakhar Zaman had 5 failures out of 8 matches.
5) Elliot is not a batsman. Yes he played one innings of 23 but he had 6 failures out of 7 matches.

Going Forward

1) Dont get the players who are not going to play full season. Roy is good as long as he play full season
2) Retain Mcallum the captain
3) Replace Elliot with Bairstow and let him play instead of Rizwan and put an extra solid bat instead of Rizwan
 
Fault as per me was Umar Akmal this year.

If you look at all the other teams their local main batsman has kicked on and as a result they have ended on winning side most of the times. Ahmed Shahzad (Quetta), Babar and Malik (Karachi), Kamran and Afridi (Peshawar) and Misbah (Islamabad).

While Umar Akmal playing at 4 has not been able to play longer and responsible knocks to win them at least one game. The game where he scored 66 he played his part but was finished off by Elliott. Lahore needed Umar to fire but I guess it backfired. - See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-not-always-a-good-thing#sthash.O5LmPM7B.dpuf
 
Delighted to see Qalandars getting humiliated one more time. The next team to follow the same path should be Zalmi. Only then will people realize how overrated are these Akmal brothers.
 
McCullum needed to lead from the front with the bat, he didn't do that in any match.

He looked horribly out of touch. Gayle was getting stick for his lack of performance but at least he has come good in one match so far, BMac flopped in every match.

Has to take a large portion of the blame.
 
Dubawi said:
Fault as per me was Umar Akmal this year.

If you look at all the other teams their local main batsman has kicked on and as a result they have ended on winning side most of the times. Ahmed Shahzad (Quetta), Babar and Malik (Karachi), Kamran and Afridi (Peshawar) and Misbah (Islamabad).

While Umar Akmal playing at 4 has not been able to play longer and responsible knocks to win them at least one game. The game where he scored 66 he played his part but was finished off by Elliott. Lahore needed Umar to fire but I guess it backfired. - See more at: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-not-always-a-good-thing#sthash.O5LmPM7B.dpuf
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He played two match knocks. Please do your due diligence. yes he wasnt in the best of the form but wasnt a complete failure.
 
Saj said:
McCullum needed to lead from the front with the bat, he didn't do that in any match.

He looked horribly out of touch. Gayle was getting stick for his lack of performance but at least he has come good in one match so far, BMac flopped in every match.

Has to take a large portion of the blame.
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Agree, the majority of the blame goes to Baz. But his team selection and players choices were also not good. He stuck with Elliot while we all knew he is not a T20 player. Even James Franklin could have been a better choice than Elliot.
 
Because Lahore, Lahore hai aur Karachi behtar hai. :rahat
 
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