Replacement of Asif Ali (Hit or Miss/Power Hitter) with Haris Sohail (Consistency/Batting Depth)

[Majestic_Inzi]

i think if you watch eng, they try to hit a boundary and the rest of over try to make singles and doubles, that takes you to 10 an over.

Pak should do this and someone needs to tell Asif he doesnt have to go beserk on all the balls, still have him in the team over Haris.

Haris is a coward, unfit player. Number 4 batsmen should be able to handle pressure when openers fail, he cant bottle it.

 

[OmaIR1]

It's very important to keep a team balance. With the likes of Imam and Babar in the side who are likely to further slow down our RR the last thing we need is to replace Asif Ali with Haris Sohail.

 

[Nasty Naz]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Its very strange that we don't invest in a young batsman however we are happy to fast track pacers.

Haris Sohail, Sharjeel, Asif Ali etc. all got their break late.

Fast bowlers don't really have long careers. They have a limited amount of bullets in their arms and are at their best (in terms of pace) early in their careers.

As far Asif, he is pretty consistently mediocre who can't play long innings whatsoever and is a poor fielder.

It's so annoying the batting self destructed vs WI because that was the best combination they had IMO. Haris at 4, and Hafeez at 6 who can be destructive and will actually be sensible in his hitting and provides the team with a much needed economical 6th bowler.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Asif Ali has tremendous power hitting ability. He carries a massive X factor with him when he walks in the middle. The day Asif Ali performs the likelihood of Pakistan winning increases dramatically. We need players who can win games and Asif it definitely one.

Haris on the other hand is similar to our other batsmen. He is not a matchwinner. He has scored 2/3 centuries and none of them has been matchwinning ones.

Tournaments are won by bowlers and match winning batsmen. With Asif at least Pakistan can hope he can win something in this tournament.

 

[Smbhayi]

Asif is needed as we dont have. A power hitter although Asif consistency is 5times than that of Afridi nevertheless he is needed Malik should be dropped to accommodate Imad or Haris or another strategy can be tp drop imam and play Haris

how do you know he's 5 time consistent than Afridi when he's barely play about 15 odd games.. Even today Pak didn't get his replacement is player better than him...

 

[Afhan Ali]

Excellent thread

Haris is far better player than Asif ali and haris can bowl too

 

[dhump]

I have said it before I will repeat it you don't need a specialist slogger in the team either play an all-rounder or a proper batsman. Asif Ali is a poor player that may be suitable for T20s, and that is it.

 

[dhump]

Asif Ali has tremendous power hitting ability. He carries a massive X factor with him when he walks in the middle. The day Asif Ali performs the likelihood of Pakistan winning increases dramatically. We need players who can win games and Asif it definitely one.

Haris on the other hand is similar to our other batsmen. He is not a matchwinner. He has scored 2/3 centuries and none of them has been matchwinning ones.

Tournaments are won by bowlers and match winning batsmen. With Asif at least Pakistan can hope he can win something in this tournament.

You dont play someone as specialist batsman with List A and First class average both below 30 that is just an embarrasement. Play him in T20s that is all what he can offer.

 

[tausiif]

Last 4 matches in England

Asif Ali: 14, 22,17, 52 = 26.25
Haris: 8, 41, 14, 14 = 19.25

 

[adil79]

Different team, but today's display of indian spinners & lack of depth in south africa's batting only make the case of replacement of asif ali with haris sohail stronger. The case of picking spinners off hand will always take a lead, as otherwise you would be late and eventually throw your wicket away, as seen in Asia Cup.

 

[fuzail]

Why not replace Harris Sohail with Shoaib Malik

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Why not replace Harris Sohail with Shoaib Malik

I used to think the same but no, these English wickets are not about bowling fast only. Overall spinners are getting more than the fasters. shoaib is a better spinner than sohail & far more better batsman ag spin than sohail. Three teams have better & reasonably dangerous spinners than their fast bowlers i-e India, BD & Afgh & if you inclide SA (Tahir & Shamsi) it will be 4 teams, who will rely on spinners in middle & end part. So Pak need a good middle order which can handle these spinners.

 

[Mercurial]

I agree. His selection is not justified at all. Haris must play all the remaining games.

 

[Pete Rose]

Haris sohail is fat waste of space and a liability in the field and on this tour Asif Ali has easily outscored fatty. So haris/Malik/Imad/hafeez are competing for two spots

 

[Inswing]

Haris sohail is fat waste of space and a liability in the field and on this tour Asif Ali has easily outscored fatty. So haris/Malik/Imad/hafeez are competing for two spots

Hafeez after the game against england isn't competing for any spot

 

[Da_Future_Knick]

Fit them both in the team.

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Asif
Shadab
Hassan
Wahab
Amir

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

Asif Ali is very poor. He has great hitting ability, but his batting maturity, intelligence and adaptibality is that of an U-19 player.

Domestic averages of 21, 28 and 26 at the age of 27 clearly illustrates that he is a half-cooked player with no international credentials. You can invest in a 19 year old with these numbers, but not in a 27 years old.

Pakistan is desperate for power hitters and any batsman that can hit 2-3 big sixes becomes a player of value, but Pakistan needs to play Hafeez in Asif's role and Haris at number 4. Haris is lazy and lethargic, but he is a very solid batsman who rarely gets out cheaply. He is the ideal player for the number 4 spot at the moment.

I'd rather have Imad in the team than Haris.

Imad can also hit the ball far and is a decent economical bowler.

I also am not too impressed with Haris' strike rate and his lack of urgency to score quickly.

I also wouldn't put him in the team at 4, even if he played. Hafeez did a much better job the other day than Haris would have. And I'd rather have Hafeez there for a longer portion of the innings than Haris any day.

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

I'd rather have Imad in the team than Haris.

Imad can also hit the ball far and is a decent economical bowler.

I also am not too impressed with Haris' strike rate and his lack of urgency to score quickly.

I also wouldn't put him in the team at 4, even if he played. Hafeez did a much better job the other day than Haris would have. And I'd rather have Hafeez there for a longer portion of the innings than Haris any day.

Imaad has been found out, they pepper him with short bowl and he doesnt duck, gets out by the short bowl all the time...

 

[mak36]

I'd rather have Imad in the team than Haris.

Imad can also hit the ball far and is a decent economical bowler.

I also am not too impressed with Haris' strike rate and his lack of urgency to score quickly.

I also wouldn't put him in the team at 4, even if he played. Hafeez did a much better job the other day than Haris would have. And I'd rather have Hafeez there for a longer portion of the innings than Haris any day.

Hafeez when he comes in to bat before the 20th over: averages 19.5 at a strike rate of 67

Hafeez when he comes in to bat after the 20th over: he averages 75.3 at a strike rate of 108

Meanwhile Haris's average is 50+ over the last two years.

 

[hadi123]

Asif Ali and Haris Sohail don't really have similar roles tbh. Not saying Asif should play every single game, but I feel like it's more of a competition between Haris Sohail and Shoaib Malik. Malik didn't get runs last game, although he was batting at the death so you can't really look too much into that failure, he bowle well too.

 

[adil79]

Told you so. Slogger will always be a slogger. Would have done well with Haris Sohail. But no, fans of afridi love defeat from winning positions.

Don't forget his pathetic fielding and catching.

 

[Wahid1234]

Bring back umar akmal asap or get abused and humiliated out of the world cup shameless coach and selectors I'm fuming right now

 

[adil79]

Bring back umar akmal asap or get abused and humiliated out of the world cup shameless coach and selectors I'm fuming right now

Umar Akmal is another tested failure. Proven & Tested to fail in any situation, anytime. Haris Sohail is what I would have gone with

 

[Zaz]

Asif seems a wasted spot He just isnt good enough at the moment

Harris needs to come in and shouldve been playing tbh since the start of the tournment

 

[Wahid1234]

Umar Akmal is another tested failure. Proven & Tested to fail in any situation, anytime. Haris Sohail is what I would have gone with

We need at least one power hitter regardless umar akmal is best for the finisher role weather u like it or not. Man can hit quick 30 40 runs which can give u momentum

 

[adil79]

We need at least one power hitter regardless umar akmal is best for the finisher role weather u like it or not. Man can hit quick 30 40 runs which can give u momentum

After every 5-6 games, yeah, big no.

 

[Wahid1234]

After every 5-6 games, yeah, big no.

I know we have hairs sohail but we have nothing to lose break maliks and asif alis knee caps send them home and fly in umar akmal and someone else could be anyone

 

[MRSN]

Pathetically average player. Nevee trust mediocre players to deliver when it matters.

 

[MRSN]

After every 5-6 games, yeah, big no.

You guys deserve Malik and Asif. Enjoy this torture. At least UA can play match winning innings once he gets his form back. These guys after playing for last 2 years non stop still look hopeless.

 

[adil79]

You guys deserve Malik and Asif. Enjoy this torture. At least UA can play match winning innings once he gets his form back. These guys after playing for last 2 years non stop still look hopeless.

I love umar akmal. And his talent. You know what the problem is? He throws it away. And he does it consistently. tested and proven failure.

 

[MRSN]

I love umar akmal. And his talent. You know what the problem is? He throws it away. And he does it consistently. tested and proven failure.

Umar has a proven history of his talent but Asif had been average whole life

 

[Kianig89]

Asif over Haris any sane mind would oppose it Pakistan's thick tank

 

[Barragan]

Asif is a no. 7 in ODI's and only good for a good 7-10 overs, which should be his role and those batting above him should make sure that happens 8 or 9 times out of 10.

Blame goes to guys like malik and zaman for not contributing or doing anything.

 

[Oneking]

Imad over Asif and Haris over should

 

[warcry]

Asif Ali's fielding alone means he should not have been in the squad in the first place.
Having said that, Haris Sohail is NOT the solution. unfit, lazy fielder, has only a couple of years of cricket left, before he gets injured so badly he retires.

 

[msb314]

Haris sohail is fat waste of space and a liability in the field and on this tour Asif Ali has easily outscored fatty. So haris/Malik/Imad/hafeez are competing for two spots

I would rather have this one legged one armed “fat waste of space” than Malik is who will do nothing at all in this WC.

I still can’t believe people are justifying Malik’s place in the team - should have been booted out a long time ago

 

[msb314]

Asif Ali's fielding alone means he should not have been in the squad in the first place.
Having said that, Haris Sohail is NOT the solution. unfit, lazy fielder, has only a couple of years of cricket left, before he gets injured so badly he retires.

Lazy fielder or not - Haris is ten times the batsman Malik or Asid will ever be...

 

[DHONI183]

I hereby resign from the Asif Ali fan club with immediate effects. The guy is simply not made for international cricket or to face international bowling attacks - for the time being at least. I can´t remember a single substantial innings from him at the highest level, not a single innings. Play anyone in his place right now. Even shadab I´d say as he´s definitely a better batsman than him, more sensible at least, and is of course a professional bowler.

 

[The Viper]

He is too limited. You need to be able to adapt in the modern game. The problem is that, Asif can't bat out for a substantial amount of time- really needed him to dig in today.

 

[Pete Rose]

I would rather have this one legged one armed “fat waste of space” than Malik is who will do nothing at all in this WC.

I still can’t believe people are justifying Malik’s place in the team - should have been booted out a long time ago

Sure. I never wanted Malik in the squad. I am afraid you will see him on Sunday as well; given that he is supposedly the ‘India specialist’

 

[Captain caveman]

Drop asif and malik.
Bring in haris and shadab
Open with haris and push fakhar down to 6(asif's position)

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Asif seems a wasted spot He just isnt good enough at the moment

Harris needs to come in and shouldve been playing tbh since the start of the tournment

for Haris like players bottling one game is good enough to be dropped... but for players like UA & AS it wasnt like that...

 

[adil79]

Told you guys

 

[adil79]

Good batsman tend to help others when batting in partnership. Haris doing that to Babar, which was missing previously. Thats the value of Hairs in the team

 

[CricFan2012]

Told you guys

Not going to bother looking through the whole thread but which fan actually disagreed with this?

Since his debut he has looked excellent, I even touted him as our 3rd best batsman of all time based on potential after Miandad and Babar.

 

[adil79]

Not going to bother looking through the whole thread but which fan actually disagreed with this?

Since his debut he has looked excellent, I even touted him as our 3rd best batsman of all time based on potential after Miandad and Babar.

Read it, about 90 percent of "experts" here