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[REPORT] Ouster of 35-plus brigade on the cards after New Zealand-Australia fiasco

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LAHORE: Pakistan’s dismal faring in both Tests and ODIs on the recent tours of New Zealand and Australia has posed a serious challenge to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) which is now seriously considering dispensing with the 35-plus cricketers from all formats of the game and bringing in a new captain to infuse fresh spirit into the team.

Under the current scenario, the future of seasoned players such as Test captain Misbah-ul-Haq, Mohammad Hafeez, Younus Khan and Shoaib Malik does not look too bright at the moment.

“Yes, the presence of too many 35-plus players is emerging as one of the key reasons for Pakistan’s poor show in New Zealand and Australia and we are seriously considering to minimize the presence of overage players in the team and include youngsters in their place,” a key PCB official told Dawn on condition of anonymity.

“After playing non-stop cricket during the last six months, the fitness level of our seniors players have been badly exposed and this factor will come under serious discussion once the team returns from Australia,” the official said.

“Yes Misbah is an exceptional case because he has served Pakistan cricket a lot and the PCB will not advise him to retire from cricket. But if he makes up his mind to do so, then the PCB may consider accepting it. So among the seniors, perhaps only Misbah is at a liberty to take his decision about his retirement though he is 42 and age is really catching up with him,” the PCB official said.

“Of course the PCB, like the entire nation, is also deeply disappointed over the poor performance of the Pakistan team in New Zealand and Australia and feels it is the time to take big decisions,” the official added. “The Board feels that while it is providing every facility to the players including best coaches, equipment, care, the desired results are just not coming.”

“Our fielding, bowling and batting all have failed to come up to standard but still the PCB will stop short of blaming head coach Mickey Arthur since he has not had any time to look or assess the back up talent in the country due to constant cricket since the past six months,” the official said.

“But after the Pakistan Super League in Feb-March, the PCB think-tank will announce major decisions about the captaincy, team management and about certain cricketers which will be final,” the PCB official said.

Hafeez, who has suddenly emerged as the leading candidate for One-day captaincy after his aggressive leadership against the Aussies in the absence of Azhar Ali, is also over 36 years of age and has little time left in international cricket to be handed a major responsibility.

That enhances the chance of wicket-keeper batsman Sarfraz Ahmad to get the mantle. However, the PCB may have to think several times before taking a final decision about appointing Sarfraz whose performance as wicket-keeper has not been up to the mark of late and could further declined due to pressures of captaincy.

In fact, the PCB has no suitable candidate for Test and ODI captaincy at the moment and that is certainly a major concern for Pakistan cricket. Though Misbah was enjoying a good run in the Tests as captain before the start of the New Zealand-Australia tour, successive defeats in all the five Tests have earned the ire of critics and former players who now see Misbah approaching a dead end in career.

The prowess of Sarfraz Ahmad could not be tested in the ongoing ODI series against Australia, as he left the Pakistan team before the start of the series to look after his ailing mother, and that factor is likely to prove for him as blessing in disguise to get the captaincy.

Pakistan, who had reached world number one ranking in the ICC ratigs last Oct, has slumped to a lowly sixth spot in matter of weeks which has left the experts dubbing its earlier rise as a fluke and the result of there success only in the UAE.

At Adelaide, in the last game of the five-match ODI series against Australia, Pakistan faces the immediate task of maintaining its current 8th position in the ICC ranking in order to qualify for the World Cup 2019.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1310490/ouster-of-35-plus-brigade-on-cards-after-nz-australia-fiasco
 
all talks in the end nothing will happen

ideally they should start their resurgence from t20 squad .they should drop malik ,hafeez,no afridi,wahab,no

irfan from t20 squad and see how youngster perform in t20 then they should be included in odi squad.
 
You guys must have some better cricketers in the country somewhere.
 
I'm sick and tired of hearing this after every poor series from the PCB. Eventually nothing will happen.
 
If you want to get rid of the 35 plus brigade, why not with the 85+ CEO and the 60+ chairman who has no clue about the game, and was given the post as a favor for his "loyalty" to the PM. Nothing will change until it changes from the top. This view that we cant touch Misbah because he has been a great leader is a thinking from a different era. This is a modern day sports team not some pension gathering scheme!

Nothing will change unless changes come at the top.
 
How about removing TTFs from captains role in domestics and give experience to youngsters.

TTF mafia has taken control of our cricket and are milking it for money.
 
Assess the performances instead of age , misbah failed badly both in Australia and newzealand and yet he is an exceptional case. Yes he has served Pakistan well but he is not indispensable . Bringing back hafeez was a step backwards anyway , I would have never batted him in the top 6 and yet he ended up playing at number 3 and 4 and failed in 4 games. Could not buy a wicket in Australia.

Azhar (out of Odis)
Wahab (out of Odis and t20s)
Shafiq (out of Odis)
Rizwan ( should be dropped)
Misbah ( should be dropped)
Younis ( should retire after 10000)
Rahat Ali (should be dropped)

If we look at the current odi squad

Sharjeel
Babar
Malik (last chance)
Akmal (last chance)
Hasan
Junaid
Imad
Amir
Sarfraz

These 9 guys are retainable ,which means we will need 6 new guys from domestic.

Shahzeb hasan
Amir yamin
Khalid latif
Harris sohail (if fit)
Fakhar zaman (handy bowler as well)
Zafar gohar (a very good limited overs spinner)

We need to play a specialist spinner.

Shahzeb has an
Sharjeel khan
Babar azam
Malik
Sarfraz ahmed
Umar akmal
Amir yamin
Amir
Hasan
Zafar gohar
Junaid
 
If the report is true, then once again for the umpteenth time we have failed to understand what the problems are in our cricket. We keep on treating cancer with aspirin.

Yes we need youth in our current teams, but look at the youth in our domestic. Not even one youth player is lighting our domestic ODI tournaments. So which youth are you going to bring in? The ones who are lighting up our domestic is Kamran Akmal, Salman Butt, Ahmed Shehzad. Are we going to keep recycling these players? The reason why our seniors get the free hand to claim unfair removal is because there is hardly anyone deserving to replace them.

We need a radical change in our domestic structure. About time we do it. With plan and purpose. Not just cosmetic changes.
 
If the report is true, then once again for the umpteenth time we have failed to understand what the problems are in our cricket. We keep on treating cancer with aspirin.

Yes we need youth in our current teams, but look at the youth in our domestic. Not even one youth player is lighting our domestic ODI tournaments. So which youth are you going to bring in? The ones who are lighting up our domestic is Kamran Akmal, Salman Butt, Ahmed Shehzad. Are we going to keep recycling these players? The reason why our seniors get the free hand to claim unfair removal is because there is hardly anyone deserving to replace them.

We need a radical change in our domestic structure. About time we do it. With plan and purpose. Not just cosmetic changes.

saad ali is averaging 60 in list A and fakhar zaman is scoring heavily with pakistan A and domestic

Mir hamza is taking wickets after wicket with A tours ,faheem ashraf is taking wicket and scoring runs in

domestic ,there are more which may i miss just need to select them for right format there are enough

youngster to replace these oldies
 
Assess the performances instead of age , misbah failed badly both in Australia and newzealand and yet he is an exceptional case. Yes he has served Pakistan well but he is not indispensable . Bringing back hafeez was a step backwards anyway , I would have never batted him in the top 6 and yet he ended up playing at number 3 and 4 and failed in 4 games. Could not buy a wicket in Australia.

Azhar (out of Odis)
Wahab (out of Odis and t20s)
Shafiq (out of Odis)
Rizwan ( should be dropped)
Misbah ( should be dropped)
Younis ( should retire after 10000)
Rahat Ali (should be dropped)

If we look at the current odi squad

Sharjeel
Babar
Malik (last chance)
Akmal (last chance)
Hasan
Junaid
Imad
Amir
Sarfraz

These 9 guys are retainable ,which means we will need 6 new guys from domestic.

Shahzeb hasan
Amir yamin
Khalid latif
Harris sohail (if fit)
Fakhar zaman (handy bowler as well)
Zafar gohar (a very good limited overs spinner)

We need to play a specialist spinner.

Shahzeb has an
Sharjeel khan
Babar azam
Malik
Sarfraz ahmed
Umar akmal
Amir yamin
Amir
Hasan
Zafar gohar
Junaid

agree with you that would be perfect squad
 
I dont think Pcb will be doing anything out of the ordinary for this tour with Odi rankings at stake but to sack Azhar Ali and maybe Shoaib Malik. The playing XI will be somewhat like this.

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Ahmed S ( Destined for a comeback based on prolific form)
3. Babar A
4. M. Hafeez ( Cant see him being dropped with his bowling back)
5. Sarfraz A. ( Captain)
6. Haris Sohail / Psl hard hitter
7. Fast Bowling All rounder
8. Imad Wasim
9. M. Amir
10. J. Khan
11. Hassan Ali
 
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Remove Azhar as captain and opening batsman then a major chunk of our problems will be solved.

Akmal, Asad, Hafeez, Malik, Nawaz, Rizwan and Rahat also need to be shown the door.

What we have at the moment:


1. Sharjeel
2. ???
3. Babar
4. ???
5. Sarfaraz (c)
6. ???
7. Imad
8. ???
9. Hasan
10. Amir
11. Junaid


Fill those blanks with competent people and you would have a competitive team in no time.
 
Just do something that will make us move forward. Nothing is working for us at the moment.

England transformed after the WC. OZ made a new team. Why doesn't anything work for us?
 
Just do something that will make us move forward. Nothing is working for us at the moment.

England transformed after the WC. OZ made a new team. Why doesn't anything work for us?

Sir because we remove a set of players and replace with previously discarded players. I won't be surprised if Inzi replaces these guys with another batch of TTFs.

Australia and England both dished out massive amounts of debuts when they wanted to reform their side, not bring back oldies.

Even PP'ers were calling for these oldies so who to blame in that case?
 
Assess the performances instead of age , misbah failed badly both in Australia and newzealand and yet he is an exceptional case. Yes he has served Pakistan well but he is not indispensable . Bringing back hafeez was a step backwards anyway , I would have never batted him in the top 6 and yet he ended up playing at number 3 and 4 and failed in 4 games. Could not buy a wicket in Australia.

Azhar (out of Odis)
Wahab (out of Odis and t20s)
Shafiq (out of Odis)
Rizwan ( should be dropped)
Misbah ( should be dropped)
Younis ( should retire after 10000)
Rahat Ali (should be dropped)

If we look at the current odi squad

Sharjeel
Babar
Malik (last chance)
Akmal (last chance)
Hasan
Junaid
Imad
Amir
Sarfraz

These 9 guys are retainable ,which means we will need 6 new guys from domestic.

Shahzeb hasan
Amir yamin
Khalid latif
Harris sohail (if fit)
Fakhar zaman (handy bowler as well)
Zafar gohar (a very good limited overs spinner)

We need to play a specialist spinner.

Shahzeb has an
Sharjeel khan
Babar azam
Malik
Sarfraz ahmed
Umar akmal
Amir yamin
Amir
Hasan
Zafar gohar
Junaid

still.the problem lies with lower order power hitting we need atleadt 2 guys down the order who can play some hard hitting shots and give 40,50 runs cameo in 20 something balls!!
 
Things will never improve if you blame the team each and every time.

Pakistan's current squad is the best one they could've produced in recent times with some exceptions though.

Did you even expect Pakistani batsman to score some where around 300 during a chase? The lack of experience on the Australian pitches will be the main reason for our loss, really? No, and I repeat 'NO'.The main reason for our loss was our insecure fielding and no one actually expected our batsmen to bat so well which really shows that our batting has improved by a specifically great margin.

Are there any replacements? NO (leave the rest, experience itself is a factor that can not be replaced, Srilanka is a cool example)

Is there even a single youngster who is fit for Internationals? NO (fortunately, you can see many youngsters on the bench from time to time due to some kind of incapability)

Is there any youngster who can field well? NO (you just can't win games without this factor no matter how strong you are in the rest)

if the same questions are to be asked for the seniors...you'll go with a big YES

Agree? [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
 
We should try something like this
Sharjeel khan
Shahzaib/umar/Sarfraz/ Hussain talat (can bowl too)
Babar azam
Saad Ali/ Haris sohail
sarfraz/saud shakeel
Hammad azam ( give him a proper go)/ amir yamin
Shadab khan ( need a leggie)
imad wasim ( not really convinced by him)/ Kamran Ghulam
Amad butt
Hasan ali
Mohammed amir

A very good odi line up.
 
If you remove Azhar, Hafeez, Malik,Wahab,Rahat, with actual LO players we have a decent team.
 
I can safely bet a million dollar that nothing will happen.

Here's a story of Pakistan cricket:

1. Team performs bad. Fans scream to get Players A,B,C.
2. Players X,Y,Z get a chop, and players A,B,C get a chance
3. Team performs good.
4. Team performs bad. Fans scream to get Players X,Y,Z back.
5. Players A,B,C get a chop. Players X,Y,Z get a chance.
6. Team performs Well
Goto Step 1.
 
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Things will never improve if you blame the team each and every time.

Pakistan's current squad is the best one they could've produced in recent times with some exceptions though.

Did you even expect Pakistani batsman to score some where around 300 during a chase? The lack of experience on the Australian pitches will be the main reason for our loss, really? No, and I repeat 'NO'.The main reason for our loss was our insecure fielding and no one actually expected our batsmen to bat so well which really shows that our batting has improved by a specifically great margin.

Are there any replacements? NO (leave the rest, experience itself is a factor that can not be replaced, Srilanka is a cool example)

Is there even a single youngster who is fit for Internationals? NO (fortunately, you can see many youngsters on the bench from time to time due to some kind of incapability)

Is there any youngster who can field well? NO (you just can't win games without this factor no matter how strong you are in the rest)

if the same questions are to be asked for the seniors...you'll go with a big YES

Agree? [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

The new crops of u19 are actually very good fielders. to name few amad butt, zafar gohar, shadab khan ( oustanding fielder), Kamran ghulam and many more. And yes there are few youngsters who are much better then some of the trash which we are carrying right now. If the team is picked of the basis of merit and performance (domestic 50 over tournment which is going on right now) then khushdil shah, hussain talat, saad ali will be flying to the west indies.
 
The new crops of u19 are actually very good fielders. to name few amad butt, zafar gohar, shadab khan ( oustanding fielder), Kamran ghulam and many more. And yes there are few youngsters who are much better then some of the trash which we are carrying right now. If the team is picked of the basis of merit and performance (domestic 50 over tournment which is going on right now) then khushdil shah, hussain talat, saad ali will be flying to the west indies.

under 19's are only good to play against under 19's, all of the players in our side have also played the under 19's and done well. things change when you are expected to play at higher level against more mature people.

by this i don't really mean that they can never make it to the internationals.
 
under 19's are only good to play against under 19's, all of the players in our side have also played the under 19's and done well. things change when you are expected to play at higher level against more mature people.

by this i don't really mean that they can never make it to the internationals.

i am reffering to fielding you are either a good fielder or not, that won't change with international cricket,of course the intensity and the pressure will be high, but it won't make you a bad fielder.
 
If the report is true, then once again for the umpteenth time we have failed to understand what the problems are in our cricket. We keep on treating cancer with aspirin.

Yes we need youth in our current teams, but look at the youth in our domestic. Not even one youth player is lighting our domestic ODI tournaments. So which youth are you going to bring in? The ones who are lighting up our domestic is Kamran Akmal, Salman Butt, Ahmed Shehzad. Are we going to keep recycling these players? The reason why our seniors get the free hand to claim unfair removal is because there is hardly anyone deserving to replace them.

We need a radical change in our domestic structure. About time we do it. With plan and purpose. Not just cosmetic changes.

i agree that domestic structure revamp is the need for the past 20 years but what makes you think that these TTFs wont dominate over youngsters in that model as well. the truth of the matter is that not playing in pakistan is catching up to us and there arent enough young kids going to stadiums to watch their heroes perform and try to emulate them... like it or not, these TTFs are the best of the lot. PSL is the only way you will unearth real gems, like sharjeel.
 
Malik is the only 35+ player I would like to see retained, while Younis should be given a golden handshake as soon as he crosses 10k.
 
Things will never improve if you blame the team each and every time.

Pakistan's current squad is the best one they could've produced in recent times with some exceptions though.

Did you even expect Pakistani batsman to score some where around 300 during a chase? The lack of experience on the Australian pitches will be the main reason for our loss, really? No, and I repeat 'NO'.The main reason for our loss was our insecure fielding and no one actually expected our batsmen to bat so well which really shows that our batting has improved by a specifically great margin.

Are there any replacements? NO (leave the rest, experience itself is a factor that can not be replaced, Srilanka is a cool example)

Is there even a single youngster who is fit for Internationals? NO (fortunately, you can see many youngsters on the bench from time to time due to some kind of incapability)

Is there any youngster who can field well? NO (you just can't win games without this factor no matter how strong you are in the rest)

if the same questions are to be asked for the seniors...you'll go with a big YES

Agree? [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Our fielding will never be good , let's dump this issue. The current squad was the best selected? Are you kidding me? In what world is asad shafiq and azhar Ali odi players , let alone the modern odi players. Our two top scorers in the series are both young at international level and all the seniors failed which includes akmal as well. Mohammad hafeez in the middle order? I haven't seen such pathetic idea in a long long time and no wonder he failed. It is time to give the replacements good number of chances. Shahzeb has an , Khalid latif , fakhar zaman , amir yamin , Zafar gohar , Mohammad asghar , imam Ul haq , saad Ali , saud shakil etc . why can't we give them chances , why we revert to ttfs at the first possible chance.
 
Our fielding will never be good , let's dump this issue. The current squad was the best selected? Are you kidding me? In what world is asad shafiq and azhar Ali odi players , let alone the modern odi players. Our two top scorers in the series are both young at international level and all the seniors failed which includes akmal as well. Mohammad hafeez in the middle order? I haven't seen such pathetic idea in a long long time and no wonder he failed. It is time to give the replacements good number of chances. Shahzeb has an , Khalid latif , fakhar zaman , amir yamin , Zafar gohar , Mohammad asghar , imam Ul haq , saad Ali , saud shakil etc . why can't we give them chances , why we revert to ttfs at the first possible chance.

Exceptions are to be acknowledged, but as a team, we are still GOOD, we still went well. If our fielding was enough good and bowling was enough tight, our batting is something not to blame, secondly, only two seniors are playing in the side. Don't think so we can take the risk of removing them.
 
Things will never improve if you blame the team each and every time.

Pakistan's current squad is the best one they could've produced in recent times with some exceptions though.

Did you even expect Pakistani batsman to score some where around 300 during a chase? The lack of experience on the Australian pitches will be the main reason for our loss, really? No, and I repeat 'NO'.The main reason for our loss was our insecure fielding and no one actually expected our batsmen to bat so well which really shows that our batting has improved by a specifically great margin.

Are there any replacements? NO (leave the rest, experience itself is a factor that can not be replaced, Srilanka is a cool example)

Is there even a single youngster who is fit for Internationals? NO (fortunately, you can see many youngsters on the bench from time to time due to some kind of incapability)

Is there any youngster who can field well? NO (you just can't win games without this factor no matter how strong you are in the rest)

if the same questions are to be asked for the seniors...you'll go with a big YES

Agree? [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Yes some of our problems are very deep but Inzamam so far has been a sheer disappointment and has lacked the guts to make tough calls. It wasn't a good squad, but things are looking better for us in the shorter formats because Babar and Sharjeel have been two very good additions and although Hasan got hammered today, he is a much better prospect than Junaid, Irfan, Rahat and Wahab.

As long as we are carrying 4-5 passengers, a couple of players will not make a difference.
 
LAHORE: Pakistan’s dismal faring in both Tests and ODIs on the recent tours of New Zealand and Australia has posed a serious challenge to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) which is now seriously considering dispensing with the 35-plus cricketers from all formats of the game and bringing in a new captain to infuse fresh spirit into the team.

Under the current scenario, the future of seasoned players such as Test captain Misbah-ul-Haq, Mohammad Hafeez, Younus Khan and Shoaib Malik does not look too bright at the moment.

“Yes, the presence of too many 35-plus players is emerging as one of the key reasons for Pakistan’s poor show in New Zealand and Australia and we are seriously considering to minimize the presence of overage players in the team and include youngsters in their place,” a key PCB official told Dawn on condition of anonymity.

“After playing non-stop cricket during the last six months, the fitness level of our seniors players have been badly exposed and this factor will come under serious discussion once the team returns from Australia,” the official said.

“Yes Misbah is an exceptional case because he has served Pakistan cricket a lot and the PCB will not advise him to retire from cricket. But if he makes up his mind to do so, then the PCB may consider accepting it. So among the seniors, perhaps only Misbah is at a liberty to take his decision about his retirement though he is 42 and age is really catching up with him,” the PCB official said.

“Of course the PCB, like the entire nation, is also deeply disappointed over the poor performance of the Pakistan team in New Zealand and Australia and feels it is the time to take big decisions,” the official added. “The Board feels that while it is providing every facility to the players including best coaches, equipment, care, the desired results are just not coming.”

“Our fielding, bowling and batting all have failed to come up to standard but still the PCB will stop short of blaming head coach Mickey Arthur since he has not had any time to look or assess the back up talent in the country due to constant cricket since the past six months,” the official said.

“But after the Pakistan Super League in Feb-March, the PCB think-tank will announce major decisions about the captaincy, team management and about certain cricketers which will be final,” the PCB official said.

Hafeez, who has suddenly emerged as the leading candidate for One-day captaincy after his aggressive leadership against the Aussies in the absence of Azhar Ali, is also over 36 years of age and has little time left in international cricket to be handed a major responsibility.

That enhances the chance of wicket-keeper batsman Sarfraz Ahmad to get the mantle. However, the PCB may have to think several times before taking a final decision about appointing Sarfraz whose performance as wicket-keeper has not been up to the mark of late and could further declined due to pressures of captaincy.

In fact, the PCB has no suitable candidate for Test and ODI captaincy at the moment and that is certainly a major concern for Pakistan cricket. Though Misbah was enjoying a good run in the Tests as captain before the start of the New Zealand-Australia tour, successive defeats in all the five Tests have earned the ire of critics and former players who now see Misbah approaching a dead end in career.

The prowess of Sarfraz Ahmad could not be tested in the ongoing ODI series against Australia, as he left the Pakistan team before the start of the series to look after his ailing mother, and that factor is likely to prove for him as blessing in disguise to get the captaincy.

Pakistan, who had reached world number one ranking in the ICC ratigs last Oct, has slumped to a lowly sixth spot in matter of weeks which has left the experts dubbing its earlier rise as a fluke and the result of there success only in the UAE.

At Adelaide, in the last game of the five-match ODI series against Australia, Pakistan faces the immediate task of maintaining its current 8th position in the ICC ranking in order to qualify for the World Cup 2019.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1310490/ouster-of-35-plus-brigade-on-cards-after-nz-australia-fiasco

From the current Test squad:

PCB should announce that West Indies tour is farewell tour of Misbah and YK. Name Fawad Alam and Haris Sohail as their replacement.

PCB should drop Rahat Ali and Sohail Khan for Mir Hamza and Hasan Ali.

From the current ODI squad:

Drop Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Mohammad Nawaz, Mohammad Rizwan and Wahab Riaz at least. Name Shahzaib Hasan, Saad Ali, Amir Yamin, Bismillah Khan and some speed demon as their replacements.
 
How about removing TTFs from captains role in domestics and give experience to youngsters.

TTF mafia has taken control of our cricket and are milking it for money.

Look at the domestic semi-final match where TTF mafia forced the promising opener Jahad Ali to come after Sohail Khan bowler at no. 6 :facepalm:
 
Don't replace 35 plus players only, replace the players that need to go. Like Shafiq, Azhar and Hafeez. Younis and Misbah should leave after the WI series. The only 35+ player that should stay is Malik.
 
Look at the domestic semi-final match where TTF mafia forced the promising opener Jahad Ali to come after Sohail Khan bowler at no. 6 :facepalm:

This I didn`t understood what was the logic of sending Jaahid so late :angelo
 
Will we ever see a Pakistan team with no over 30 year olds?

Ideally composition should be 3 under 25 year olds. 7 25-30 year olds. 1 30-35 year old.
 
Look at the domestic semi-final match where TTF mafia forced the promising opener Jahad Ali to come after Sohail Khan bowler at no. 6 :facepalm:

And a player who is originally a Batsman but has came good as a spinner too at no. 10. You wouldn't believe that.
 
I completely agree that youngsters is the way to go.. but the logic in the article is baffling to say the least.
It once again betrays the mentality of the people who are involved in the PCB.

If anything, the ones who are 35+ were the fittest in the both the one day and test squads.
Misbah and YK didn't play ODI's and Malik and Hafeez didn't play the tests...so where is this non stop playing for six months coming from???

I'm afraid until the PCB is overhauled NOTHING is going to change.

We will remain an inconsistent team with less high performances..

Change the system and the Board and all else will follow.
 
Exceptions are to be acknowledged, but as a team, we are still GOOD, we still went well. If our fielding was enough good and bowling was enough tight, our batting is something not to blame, secondly, only two seniors are playing in the side. Don't think so we can take the risk of removing them.

What risk? Removing the non performing seniors is no risk at all.


Our batting was good in only one match , we failed to chase 260 something. Chased an easy 220.

Lost by a big margin chasing 354.

Only really good performance came in the last match , our batting wasn't good enough otherwise we could have won 2 matches at least. Teams these days expect to score 350 and we praise our batting if we somehow cross 250. Welcome to modern age.
 
Don't replace 35 plus players only, replace the players that need to go. Like Shafiq, Azhar and Hafeez. Younis and Misbah should leave after the WI series. The only 35+ player that should stay is Malik.
And why exactly should Malik remain in the side despite his dismal showing on nearly all overseas tours?
 
Sharjeel
Fakhar (He can be a very handy all rounder.)
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Akmal
Shahzaib
Yamin
Amir
Hasan
Junaid

Get 12-15 overs from Fakhar and Haris. 5-8 overs from Yamin and the rest from Amir, Junaid and Hasan. Try to get 2-3 overs from Babar too.
In bowling department, this team is pace heavy because of venues of coming CT and WC. There is not much assistance for spinners there. The part timers like Haris and Babar will go for plenty but so will be the regular bowlers as we have seen Wahab getting 100 there. We just can't restrict teams to a sub par totals with regular bowlers in today's world. All we need is a long and effective batting lineup to compete with the big teams.
 
And why exactly should Malik remain in the side despite his dismal showing on nearly all overseas tours?

Because 1 overseas tour(England) shouldn't count as nearly all our overseas tours lol. Don't bring up when he failed 12 years ago because he's a different player now.
 
Things will never improve if you blame the team each and every time.

Pakistan's current squad is the best one they could've produced in recent times with some exceptions though.

Did you even expect Pakistani batsman to score some where around 300 during a chase? The lack of experience on the Australian pitches will be the main reason for our loss, really? No, and I repeat 'NO'.The main reason for our loss was our insecure fielding and no one actually expected our batsmen to bat so well which really shows that our batting has improved by a specifically great margin.

Are there any replacements? NO (leave the rest, experience itself is a factor that can not be replaced, Srilanka is a cool example)

Is there even a single youngster who is fit for Internationals? NO (fortunately, you can see many youngsters on the bench from time to time due to some kind of incapability)

Is there any youngster who can field well? NO (you just can't win games without this factor no matter how strong you are in the rest)

if the same questions are to be asked for the seniors...you'll go with a big YES

Agree? [MENTION=57110]JibranAnsari[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

I don't agree with the idea as I don't think this is the best squad - not even 60% of what it can be made despite poor domestic system. It's easier to build a LO team as the strength lies in combination & few other factors that are not core to the game (batting/bowling/WK).

First, this is one of the most aged side even in context of 1987 - if I take official age The last ODI had 11 players aging 27, 32, 22, 37, 36, 26, 27, 24, 32, 23 & 27 ~ 300+ years, which averages around 28. This is at least 3 years more than what is ideal, for a Asian team at least 5 - because of obvious reason. PAK players do look out dated in field despite all sorts of efforts from players & coaching staff - one major reason is that body has a limit, one can't expect same out-put from a 40 years old, pretending to be 35/36. It doesn't matter if you are 29 & listed as 23 - but, it's a BIG difference once you are over 30.

Second thing is - this is the worst PAK side I have seen when it comes to nepotism. Couple of reference player/quota player is not new in Asia (in fact everywhere), may be it's more exposed in PAK; but what is happening here is day light robbery. Half of the squad doesn't deserve to be in tour squad - they are playing in the name of experience/talent. As I said many times - unless youngsters are brought in, one never knows what's the depth/option. It was just about 6 months back that Sharjeel, Hasan, Babar wasn't part of the team (Babar went to ENG with A team, 6 months back !!!!!) - and I can categorically say that, there is enough players to make it a very good ODI side. As I said many times - this 4-1 is the best result by a touring side in AUS in last 5 years - that too against a full strength AUS attack.

I give a classic example - exactly 20 years back, a PAK team went to play WSC of 1996-96 against the best 2 sides that time - AUS at home & the last of the great WI side (they were still the top side in AUS condition). Without going to CI, I think, I can name 15 players of that tour. Anwar lost out to injury before the tour, so was Aaquib & Salim Malik had to return from AUS with another injury. So, basically that PAK team went with a wonderful Captain - at 30, he was senior most player. It was Sohail (28), Md. Wasim (19), Salim Elehi (21), Ijaz (26), Moin (25), Zahoor Elahi (25), Afridi (17), Saqlin (21), Waquar, Mushtaq, Inzi, Shahid Nazir (21), Md. Zahid (21) & probably Azhar Mahmood . And, that was not a team with County experienced players - only Akram & WY was County players - rest were purely domestic products.

Inzi had a horror series, hence PAK was restricted to 2 batsmen & few good all-rounders + a wonderful attack. Still, that team made the final with 3 games at hand & beat WI in final 2-0. It was players like Md. Wasim that stood up the challenge of batting first time in AUS. In this current team, Imad Wasim at 28 is the youngsta-buti of this side - he would have been the 2nd most aged player in that team that won 7 of the 10 ODIs against 2 best sides in world in alien condition. Also, that year WSC cricket took place after ASU-WI played 5 Test series, therefore PAK actually started the tournament within 1st week of arrival compared to other 2 sides that had been playing for 2 months there.

Bottom line of my story is - these experience, AUS condition, exposing young players ....... these are absolute p!g sh!t - Inzi & his group are using these rubbish to patronize the oldie brigade & their friends. Kick out Azhar, MoHa, Malik, Wahab, Asad - & bring absolute new 5 players, any random pick - 5 who has never even played much for PAK A - I am taking 4/5 random names - Saud, Shadab Khan, Fahim, Saad Ali & Aga Salman - still that has a future written in it. Bring Suad Sakeel as Captain - still that's better, because that kid will learn it on job & deliver a year later. But, what is happening 29 months before next WC is mid blowing.


I think, the same tactics are being used - lots of "initiatives", paper talks in next 7 weeks before media & fans will be busy with PSL - after that it'll be same, in fact worse as Inzi might bring back Tannu, Gulu .... even Ajmal, who knows. If MoHa can be thought of Captaincy, then it's injustice not to consider even Imran Farhat.

PAK must bring the average age of the side to 25 - that can only happen if the 30+ rubbish is cleared out.
 
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