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The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is not willing to bear the expenses of hosting another home series in the United Arab Emirates and wants Sri Lanka Cricket to share the financial burden if it decides not to tour Pakistan for the two-Test rubber in December.

After successfully hosting Sri Lanka for a limited-overs tour in Karachi and Lahore in September-October, the PCB has been pushing the Sri Lankans to send their team for the two ICC World Test Championship matches as well in December.

“PCB Chairman, Ehsan Mani, and CEO, Wasim Khan who are in Dubai for the ICC board meetings have apparently conveyed to Sri Lankan officials that if they (SL) insist on playing the Test series in UAE, they should bear the expenses,” a reliable source said.

“The PCB has decided to take a stance that even after convincing the ICC and Sri Lankan board officials that they can properly manage all security arrangements in Pakistan, if the Sri Lankan board still insists on having the series in UAE it will have to pay or share the expenses of hosting the series,” the source said.

Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) chief Shammi Silva, who was in Pakistan for the recent white ball series, had said after returning home that the visiting players and officials were confined to their team hotel due to security arrangements and couldn’t roam around freely.

“Three days stuck in your hotel even I got fed-up,” he told media.

He also made it clear that the Sri Lankan board would consult its players and team officials on whether they would be willing to tour Pakistan for the Test series before reaching a final decision.

He noted that a team has to stay for a longer duration to play a Test series.

Pakistan has not hosted a home Test series since March 2009 when militants had attacked the Sri Lankan team in Lahore, leaving at least six Pakistani policemen dead and others wounded. Pakistan has since hosted all its Test series in Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah but Wasim Khan recently said in a television interview that the board now felt it was just not cost-effective to host matches away from home.

The new leadership in the PCB, fully supported by Prime Minister Imran Khan, now feels that time has come to take a strong stance on teams refusing to play in Pakistan and this new policy could be tested for the Test series against Sri Lanka.

“This is necessary since Pakistan is also due to host Bangladesh for a Test series in January,” the source said.

The PCB has already said it will be hosting the entire fifth edition of the Pakistan Super League in Pakistan and the tournament will not be split between UAE and Pakistan.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...xpenses-for-hosting-test-series-in-uae-899523
 
MenInG said:
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is not willing to bear the expenses of hosting another home series in the United Arab Emirates and wants Sri Lanka Cricket to share the financial burden if it decides not to tour Pakistan for the two-Test rubber in December.

After successfully hosting Sri Lanka for a limited-overs tour in Karachi and Lahore in September-October, the PCB has been pushing the Sri Lankans to send their team for the two ICC World Test Championship matches as well in December.

“PCB Chairman, Ehsan Mani, and CEO, Wasim Khan who are in Dubai for the ICC board meetings have apparently conveyed to Sri Lankan officials that if they (SL) insist on playing the Test series in UAE, they should bear the expenses,” a reliable source said.

“The PCB has decided to take a stance that even after convincing the ICC and Sri Lankan board officials that they can properly manage all security arrangements in Pakistan, if the Sri Lankan board still insists on having the series in UAE it will have to pay or share the expenses of hosting the series,” the source said.

Sri Lanka Cricket (SLC) chief Shammi Silva, who was in Pakistan for the recent white ball series, had said after returning home that the visiting players and officials were confined to their team hotel due to security arrangements and couldn’t roam around freely.

“Three days stuck in your hotel even I got fed-up,” he told media.

He also made it clear that the Sri Lankan board would consult its players and team officials on whether they would be willing to tour Pakistan for the Test series before reaching a final decision.

He noted that a team has to stay for a longer duration to play a Test series.

Pakistan has not hosted a home Test series since March 2009 when militants had attacked the Sri Lankan team in Lahore, leaving at least six Pakistani policemen dead and others wounded. Pakistan has since hosted all its Test series in Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah but Wasim Khan recently said in a television interview that the board now felt it was just not cost-effective to host matches away from home.

The new leadership in the PCB, fully supported by Prime Minister Imran Khan, now feels that time has come to take a strong stance on teams refusing to play in Pakistan and this new policy could be tested for the Test series against Sri Lanka.

“This is necessary since Pakistan is also due to host Bangladesh for a Test series in January,” the source said.

The PCB has already said it will be hosting the entire fifth edition of the Pakistan Super League in Pakistan and the tournament will not be split between UAE and Pakistan.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...xpenses-for-hosting-test-series-in-uae-899523
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Will PCB ask for this arrangement from all boards? Or only SLC?
 
Now PCB has leverage because of ICC championship points.
 
Someone said:
PCB = Forever begging
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and you came to this conclusion, how?

This is obviously a ploy to make others think about coming to Pakistan - instead of paying them more, we are asking them to pay up for these costs
 
Excellent work from wasim khan and pcb .Their is no point for sl to refuse tour after successful limited over series
 
SLC have put themselves in a bind. They should have not agreed to this tour, if they wanted to skip the test leg.

Now PCB have got them cornered.
 
It's a home series. SL won't play ball. They have just toured Pakistan for a full odi and T20 bilateral series. This won't end well for PCB.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
It's a home series. SL won't play ball. They have just toured Pakistan for a full odi and T20 bilateral series. This won't end well for PCB.
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SLC will look like fools here. They are trapped.

How will they refuse to play? They just stayed there for 15 days. Thats enough to play two tests.

When will slc get anyone with brains?

Pcb has played it perfectly.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
It's a home series. SL won't play ball. They have just toured Pakistan for a full odi and T20 bilateral series. This won't end well for PCB.
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the double game was started from sl president .The dirty game started by him when he completely changed his statement when he reached back home.if he has told pcb about his reservation behind the doors things won,t have gotten that far .

His statement was damaging pcb reputation which is why pcb have to take some action this now put sl in tight spot and they don,t have easy way out
 
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cricketjoshila said:
SLC will look like fools here. They are trapped.

How will they refuse to play? They just stayed there for 15 days. Thats enough to play two tests.

When will slc get anyone with brains?

Pcb has played it perfectly.
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True for SL but it's not a good lookout for the future. Teams will think twice about touring Pakistan for tests.
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
We will get the points for the WTC and ODI league

Just what happened to SL in the 1996 WC

your either play in Pakistan, bear our expenses in UAE or simply forfeit the points
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Easier said then done. Most countries have a negative travel advisory for pakistan. Thats reason enough to not tour pakistan.

Icc has to agree to award points to pakistan. If majority of boards decide pakistan is unsafe to tour, its highly unlikely that ICC will award points to pakistan


Last but not the least, if pcb indeed gets the points, Will these boards then sign a FTP with pakistan for the next cycle, without guaranteeing that matches are played in UAE?

So while SLC may have trapped themselves, other boards have cards left to play.
 
Confining players to just their hotels & cricket grounds isn't a great advertisement for hosting matches. It's understandable why crickets aren't eager to play in such a tensed environment.

SL board did a huge favor by persuading their players (albeit B team) to tour Pakistan. PCB risks appearing ungrateful & these tactics could backfire.

What if the SL board refuses to bear UAE expenses & instead offers to hold these 2 tests in Sri Lanka?
 
Nov15 said:
Confining players to just their hotels & cricket grounds isn't a great advertisement for hosting matches. It's understandable why crickets aren't eager to play in such a tensed environment.

SL board did a huge favor by persuading their players (albeit B team) to tour Pakistan. PCB risks appearing ungrateful & these tactics could backfire.

What if the SL board refuses to bear UAE expenses & instead offers to hold these 2 tests in Sri Lanka?
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They were offered to play golf and do shopping both were refused by their chairman
 
MenInG said:
and you came to this conclusion, how?

This is obviously a ploy to make others think about coming to Pakistan - instead of paying them more, we are asking them to pay up for these costs
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Remember the time when the PCB asked for donations from all cricket boards.
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
We will get the points for the WTC and ODI league

Just what happened to SL in the 1996 WC

your either play in Pakistan, bear our expenses in UAE or simply forfeit the points
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Dates & venue for the 2 tests needs be agreed upon mutually by the boards. Sri Lanka would forfeit matches only if they refuse to play those matches which haven't even been scheduled yet.

This will end up in ICC. With the crony-vindictive brigade back at the helm in BCCI, it's prudent PCB treats friends like Sri Lanka with the respect they deserve.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Easier said then done. Most countries have a negative travel advisory for pakistan. Thats reason enough to not tour pakistan.

Icc has to agree to award points to pakistan. If majority of boards decide pakistan is unsafe to tour, its highly unlikely that ICC will award points to pakistan


Last but not the least, if pcb indeed gets the points, Will these boards then sign a FTP with pakistan for the next cycle, without guaranteeing that matches are played in UAE?

So while SLC may have trapped themselves, other boards have cards left to play.
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Why is bothering you ?Can you mind you own business .Let the 2 board handle the situation .

Current pcb is not that dumb .Every body in right mind knows eng ,aus and nz wont tour pakistan very soon .Pcb is trying their luck on sl,bd or may be wi which is not bad ploy. They have to start from some where
 
topspin said:
Remember the time when the PCB asked for donations from all cricket boards.
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PCB has created all conditions necessary to hold a series, yet teams wont come citing no reasons apart from 'dont feel like it' - PCB does not want to spend money in UAE, so asking ok, you dont want to play in Pakistan? fine then find a venue, pay for it and we will play you there.
 
MenInG said:
PCB has created all conditions necessary to hold a series, yet teams wont come citing no reasons apart from 'dont feel like it' - PCB does not want to spend money in UAE, so asking ok, you dont want to play in Pakistan? fine then find a venue, pay for it and we will play you there.
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Neither Pakistan or Sri Lanka wants to play in the UAE, so it's not fair for the latter to bear all the costs. If the issue revolves entirely around expenses then we should play in Sri Lanka instead.
 
saeed5646 said:
Why is bothering you ?Can you mind you own business .Let the 2 board handle the situation .

Current pcb is not that dumb .Every body in right mind knows eng ,aus and nz wont tour pakistan very soon .Pcb is trying their luck on sl,bd or may be wi which is not bad ploy. They have to start from some where
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This is a open forum.

So why different scales to measure Eng Aus Nz and SL BD WI?
 
Given the players aren't allowed to go out of their hotels, it's very difficult to play tests in Pakistan then. What do you expect SL to do in this situation. You can't tell players to be stuck in the hotels for 5 days. It's absolutely absurd. The series should be held in UAE or players should be allowed to go out of their hotels as well. And no curfews please when players travel from hotel to ground.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
True for SL but it's not a good lookout for the future. Teams will think twice about touring Pakistan for tests.
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cricketjoshila said:
Easier said then done. Most countries have a negative travel advisory for pakistan. Thats reason enough to not tour pakistan.

Icc has to agree to award points to pakistan. If majority of boards decide pakistan is unsafe to tour, its highly unlikely that ICC will award points to pakistan


Last but not the least, if pcb indeed gets the points, Will these boards then sign a FTP with pakistan for the next cycle, without guaranteeing that matches are played in UAE?

So while SLC may have trapped themselves, other boards have cards left to play.
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I think the stance is fair but should be implemented as a universal policy and not just for one team. Hosting your guests at private hotels is only a luxury if you have plenty of funds - if not you ask them to either visit at home or at-least share the costs.
 
Pakhs said:
I think this is somewhat fair - If you are not rich enough to hold someone at a neutral location you can ask you guests to share the responsibility.
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Agreed.

But is the guest rich enough? And will pcb share revenues?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Agreed.

But is the guest rich enough? And will pcb share revenues?
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If the guest is not rich enough he should not complain about not being able to sample some luxury at host home. I dont think revenues are relevant as playing in UAE is a net loss.
 
cricketjoshila said:
This is a open forum.

So why different scales to measure Eng Aus Nz and SL BD WI?
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Sri Lanka did a favour to tour Pakistan. We shouldn't force them like this when we're unwilling to do the same for Eng, Aus etc.

Pakistan is marked as unsafe to travel, non-advised by most cricketing countries. It's unsurprising virtually no country wants to tour. If that safety rating is changed, then we could argue it's the board's fault. But at the moment the matter is more between governments.

If I were Pakistan I would only invite countries to tour the safer parts of Pakistan. Islamabad and Lahore remarkably are quite safe even by global standards. Maybe championing those places for now would be the right thing. What's happening right now is people are lumping the unsafe and safe parts together right now, so it's all bad in the eyes of outside Pakistan.
 
What a ploy by PCB... I wouldn't be surprised if Pakistan deliberately lost T20 series so SL won't have any excuse...
 
shah_1 said:
Now PCB has leverage because of ICC championship points.
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yup..the PCB can go to the ICC and say sorry but we have fulfilled our security requirements and the team is still not coming so we should get the points..
 
the Great Khan said:
yup..the PCB can go to the ICC and say sorry but we have fulfilled our security requirements and the team is still not coming so we should get the points..
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That's a very bold move either Pakistan will gets the points or ICC needs to scrap the Test Championship...
 
Much needed step in my opinion. Either share the expenses of hosting in UAE or series should be held in Pakistan and if some board doesnt agree then Pakistan should be given points as security is not an issue as per the ICC officials who have visited along with the inspections from other countries.

Further at the moment security situation is pretty subjective if we consider any country whether its NZ, Srl etc. So either the assessments of the officials should be accepted and expenses of holding series in UAE should be shared or Pakistan should be given the points. Its pretty fair as per any metric.
 
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Pakistan did the right thing. The major cities in Pakistan are absolutely safe to tour and play cricket, all this hoopla by different boards are for nothing. Added to this there will be adequate security provided to all the touring party members. This is the only way PCB can remain as a viable body and sustain the game in Pakistan. Understand that India won't tour Pakistan in near future due to political adversity and vice versa but the same excuse can't be given by other boards.

Last point - As I write this, British Prince and his wife is touring Pakistan. If it is not safe I am sure they would not have toured the country. PCB should reason the smar with ECB for sending out England cricket team for future tours.
 
So if they do decide on sharing the expenses , what would happen to the revenue generated from that series from broadcast deals and sponsorships ? Would that be shared as well ?
 
The PCB should have adopted this stance from Day one. They have allowed other boards to abuse it for far too long
 
Mesozoic said:
So if they do decide on sharing the expenses , what would happen to the revenue generated from that series from broadcast deals and sponsorships ? Would that be shared as well ?
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Why would the revenue be shared? It is Pakistan's home series
 
I argued this before as well. All boards should either tour Pakistan or pay compensation to PCB for not touring and forfeit points. Also the 'Star' players who's wives and families are too scared for their lives should not be issued an NOC to play cricket elsewhere outside of their countries.
 
First all teams cried over safety in Pakistan and once Pakistan fixed that situation now they are crying about how it is not fun to be bound to their hotel room and not roam around the city. Are they here to play Cricket or to have fun? Sounds like a propaganda against PCB.
 
the Great Khan said:
yup..the PCB can go to the ICC and say sorry but we have fulfilled our security requirements and the team is still not coming so we should get the points..
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The countries will show their govt advisory on travel to Pakistan.

Pakistan cannot be the judge of its security situation, visitors will judge it

Like SLC after staying 15 days in Pakistan now cannot say we wont tour, but others will not be so easily trapped.

Also if PCB plays this game, will other boards sign the FTP with PCB? If they sign will they not demand the guarantee that matches will be in UAE?
 
Rana said:
I argued this before as well. All boards should either tour Pakistan or pay compensation to PCB for not touring and forfeit points. Also the 'Star' players who's wives and families are too scared for their lives should not be issued an NOC to play cricket elsewhere outside of their countries.
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What boards do with their players wont be dictated by PCB.

Most govt have negative advisory on visiting Pakistan, so the boards cant force the players nor can ICC.
 
I totally get that you dont want to be bound into a hotel but Im sure you need to understand that you can ask the Pakistani players even to escort you in the streets of Lahore and Karachi (With armed personal in the background) to ensure your safety.

Its more like he is talking about the young players who are not married and who dont have girlfriends need to go out and have fun. What else could he mean by biological needs?

PCB needs to book these lads in proper hotels.
 
Really clever by PCB. Holding championship points hostage. Wasim Khan earning his salary. ;)
 
cricketjoshila said:
The countries will show their govt advisory on travel to Pakistan.

Pakistan cannot be the judge of its security situation, visitors will judge it

Like SLC after staying 15 days in Pakistan now cannot say we wont tour, but others will not be so easily trapped.

Also if PCB plays this game, will other boards sign the FTP with PCB? If they sign will they not demand the guarantee that matches will be in UAE?
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What if PCB can get security clearance from Third party?
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
We will get the points for the WTC and ODI league

Just what happened to SL in the 1996 WC

your either play in Pakistan, bear our expenses in UAE or simply forfeit the points
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Make it even simpler, just ask touring teams to hand over $10 billion if they want to play. If they refuse, Pakistan should be awarded the points.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What boards do with their players wont be dictated by PCB.

Most govt have negative advisory on visiting Pakistan, so the boards cant force the players nor can ICC.
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The travel advisory is usually for tourist and has changed for most countries to reconsider your need to visit rather than do not travel. The security situation is improved tremendously and even the International Tennis Federation has cleared Pakistan safe for Davis cup matches. Pakistan wouldn't have a royal family visit if it was unsafe and stats showing terrorist attacks have lowered to pre-2006 levels where teams like England were touring Pakistan. There really isn't any excuse to not go to Pakistan if they are offering that much security other than pressure from another board in the sport.
 
Osama Shafeeqe said:
The travel advisory is usually for tourist and has changed for most countries to reconsider your need to visit rather than do not travel. The security situation is improved tremendously and even the International Tennis Federation has cleared Pakistan safe for Davis cup matches. Pakistan wouldn't have a royal family visit if it was unsafe and stats showing terrorist attacks have lowered to pre-2006 levels where teams like England were touring Pakistan. There really isn't any excuse to not go to Pakistan if they are offering that much security other than pressure from another board in the sport.
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Check UK FO travel advice for India - not that glowing - so we know its more than that.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What boards do with their players wont be dictated by PCB.

Most govt have negative advisory on visiting Pakistan, so the boards cant force the players nor can ICC.
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Do you even read what you write?
The major cities like Lahore and Islamabad are extremely safe.
A team's perception of our safety doesn't change the fact that our major cities are safe.
If they are scared to play then that's on them. We're not going to pay the UAE expenses for them
 
I think sharing expense its a fair idea and should have been implemented a lot earlier - But I guess its only a desperate measure when its getting more and more expensive to host series in UAE and money is running out.
 
SensiblePakFan said:
Time to tighten the screws.
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But not just on SL

There have been bigger chickens in World Cricket. Australia didn't want to tour Pakistan or Bangladesh even before there were these security threats. PCB shouldn't just use this hard man image with SL who actually have been good to us.
 
trickyone said:
What if PCB can get security clearance from Third party?
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Again, it has to be acceptable to that countrys board and govt.

Personally speaking i see no one attacking a team surrounded by half a division of troops and gunships. So it should be safe. But then again i am not the one visiting.

It will be very interesting to see what pcb and SLC do and how pcb does it with other boards.
 
Osama Shafeeqe said:
The travel advisory is usually for tourist and has changed for most countries to reconsider your need to visit rather than do not travel. The security situation is improved tremendously and even the International Tennis Federation has cleared Pakistan safe for Davis cup matches. Pakistan wouldn't have a royal family visit if it was unsafe and stats showing terrorist attacks have lowered to pre-2006 levels where teams like England were touring Pakistan. There really isn't any excuse to not go to Pakistan if they are offering that much security other than pressure from another board in the sport.
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Australia hasnt travelled to pakistan for 2 decades. NZ for 17yrs, England for 14 years. What pressure were they under?
 
Cypher said:
Do you even read what you write?
The major cities like Lahore and Islamabad are extremely safe.
A team's perception of our safety doesn't change the fact that our major cities are safe.
If they are scared to play then that's on them. We're not going to pay the UAE expenses for them
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Your declaration doesnot change what others think.

If you want to host them, host them in UAE, or dont host. Teams are not jumping through hoops to play pakistan.

Please be rational in replying, no need to get worked up.
 
Rana said:
But not just on SL

There have been bigger chickens in World Cricket. Australia didn't want to tour Pakistan or Bangladesh even before there were these security threats. PCB shouldn't just use this hard man image with SL who actually have been good to us.
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Problem is what will pcb do if 8 out of 12 teams refuse. If its 1-2 teams pcb can take a hard stance.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Problem is what will pcb do if 8 out of 12 teams refuse. If its 1-2 teams pcb can take a hard stance.
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Get the ICC involved is what i would say, we have done enough work now to show that Cricket can be played in Pakistan and the Pakistani nation can provide excellent security and hospitality. The players can enjoy recreational activities in the presence of security as well.

There are no real justified excuses to refuse to tour Pakistan now.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Problem is what will pcb do if 8 out of 12 teams refuse. If its 1-2 teams pcb can take a hard stance.
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Well what PCB should do is refuse to tour those countries and not pay a penelty and see what ICC does then.

I’m sure players can feel it is unsafe to tour Australia or England. Who is to judge whether this is a lie or the players and officials actually feel threatened?
 
cricketjoshila said:
Problem is what will pcb do if 8 out of 12 teams refuse. If its 1-2 teams pcb can take a hard stance.
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Simple ask them to forfeit their points

I remember SL topped the table in the 1996 WC by playing only 4 matches and in 2003 ENG got KO due to the same reason

Sometimes life can be rough sorry.

Either tour Pakistan or give us the points.

Simple
 
SL players should not be confined to hotel rooms should they visit

I am sure pcb can make arrangements
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
Simple ask them to forfeit their points

I remember SL topped the table in the 1996 WC by playing only 4 matches and in 2003 ENG got KO due to the same reason

Sometimes life can be rough sorry.

Either tour Pakistan or give us the points.

Simple
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Yep try using this tactics with England/AUS
 
Rana said:
Well what PCB should do is refuse to tour those countries and not pay a penelty and see what ICC does then.

I’m sure players can feel it is unsafe to tour Australia or England. Who is to judge whether this is a lie or the players and officials actually feel threatened?
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Teams do not tour Pakistan. Pakistan doesnot tour them. Loser is pakistan. Other teams will play amongst them.
 
Bleedgreen4ever said:
Simple ask them to forfeit their points

I remember SL topped the table in the 1996 WC by playing only 4 matches and in 2003 ENG got KO due to the same reason

Sometimes life can be rough sorry.

Either tour Pakistan or give us the points.

Simple
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Only 2 teams refused to tour SL in 1996. Rest everyone was ready.

Here hardly anyone is ready.

Pakistan plays this card, next cycle teams will refuse to sign the bilateral FTP with pakistan.

Unless majority of teams are ready to tour pakistan, PCBs hard stance will mean nothing.
 
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