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[REPORTS] PCB to not renew contracts with Inzamam-ul-Haq and Mickey Arthur post World Cup

Although it pre-dates my days of watching cricket, one cannot forget how he lost his head in the 96 WC against India in the QF match, after that cover drive against Prasad.

He did lose his head but surely the rest of the batsmen were more than capable of getting 200 runs in 40 overs
 
Worst time for the news to come out. Let the management focus on the WC.

PCB and their leaks. Is there any professionalism there?
 
He did lose his head but surely the rest of the batsmen were more than capable of getting 200 runs in 40 overs

that match was a disgrace..we could have tuk tuked our way to victory for goodness sake..i believe there were rumours of skullduggery at the time..
 
Aamir sohail is a hot head . Giving it to botham in 92 final(though botham deserved it). Giving it prasad in 96 quater finals(prasad didnt deserve it and replied in the best way, by getting aamir out)! Also, seen him on tv in england series, on the verdict, tried to be too smart, bob willis and the other experts in the end just ignored his comments. From this i would conclude that he would be a risky choice for chief selector due to his arrogance and bad temper.
 
He did lose his head but surely the rest of the batsmen were more than capable of getting 200 runs in 40 overs

Agreed, but I think the way he conducted himself set the tone for the rest of the innings and therefore switched the momentum to the Indian bowlers, even though Pakistan were cruising!

Remember Aamir Sohail wasn't just an opening batsman that day, he was the captain of the side (due to Wasim's mystery "injury"), so I have no doubt this would have played on the minds on the batsmen to follow, whilst giving Indian bowlers the mental boost they needed.
 
If you tell someone they are gonna get fired at the end of the month....what kind of motivation and work ethic do you expect them to put in during that period...?

PCB shouldve just kept their mouth shut on the matter and only made a decision post July.
 
a lot of garbage got removed from this thread. But I see the fickleness of our fans will never go away!!! Long live the arm chair critics of pak cricket!!!
 
Pretty unprofessional from the media to write an article on this when we need all the stakeholders focused on the WC, the PCB did not release an official statement to this effect yet, anyone leaking internal matters within the PCB to the media needs to be punished.

But its no surprise to see Mickey Arthur being resigned and disinterested now, its perhaps the reason why Sarfaraz and Inzamam are taking charge now i.e. the selection of Wahab Riaz. Mickey perhaps sees the writing on the wall regardless of the assurances the PCB gives him.

I hope Inzi is appointed the batting coach.
 
If you tell someone they are gonna get fired at the end of the month....what kind of motivation and work ethic do you expect them to put in during that period...?

PCB shouldve just kept their mouth shut on the matter and only made a decision post July.
Its ridiculous is what it is... knee jerk reactions... very short sighted!!!
 
why are you running away now? cmon be a man..tell us who you would select..

I see the light now, Inzi has done a wonderful job promoting talent young fresh talent like Hafeez and Malik. BEST. SELECTOR. EVER.
 
Aamir Sohail is a hot head, besides he is a huge supporter of Departmental Cricket, getting him in the PCB is going to neutralize Imran Khan's vision of regional cricket.
 
Pretty unprofessional from the media to write an article on this when we need all the stakeholders focused on the WC, the PCB did not release an official statement to this effect yet, anyone leaking internal matters within the PCB to the media needs to be punished.

But its no surprise to see Mickey Arthur being resigned and disinterested now, its perhaps the reason why Sarfaraz and Inzamam are taking charge now i.e. the selection of Wahab Riaz. Mickey perhaps sees the writing on the wall regardless of the assurances the PCB gives him.

I hope Inzi is appointed the batting coach.

He has one motivation left..win the world cup..if he cant be motivated for that then he deserves the sack..
 
I see the light now, Inzi has done a wonderful job promoting talent young fresh talent like Hafeez and Malik. BEST. SELECTOR. EVER.

still avoiding the question..who would you select..why is that so hard?
 
Bottomkine, I am annoyed this is happening with Imran in charge... it’s highly unprofessional... hope this happened without his sayso. Why would you make this public like that?

And whoever he replaced Inzi with, I Hope lives up to the high standards the man sets...
 
still avoiding the question..who would you select..why is that so hard?

No you have won me over.... Inzi the great has selected the best batsman in the country. Can't believe he dropped Umar Akmal.
 
My criticism against Inzi as chief selector is that he should have stood up to Mickey Arthur a lot more. The failure to groom spinners during his tenure was disasterous. But Inzi hasn't been completely shambolic, he has given plenty of youngsters to the team management and even some spinners, it was the team management's decision not to select and play them.

I think Inzi's correct role would be to become the team's batting coach.
 
He has one motivation left..win the world cup..if he cant be motivated for that then he deserves the sack..

Thats the question. If by a mere miracle Pakistan repeats the CT heroics at the WC or qualifies for the semi's or even the finals. What will it do to Mickey Arthur's reinstatement?
 
Mickey and Inzi deserve to be sacked for solely investing in Faheem. This shows both have no eye for talent. Can’t even realize how crap Faheem is. Wasted time and money on this useless.
 
Removing Inzy or Mickey won’t make an iota of difference...
 
Arthur and Inzi did a good job way better that pathetic Waqar Younis. For Amir Sohail, I am not sure thats a good decision and as always WRONG timinig to leake such news and the person who did that should be sacked right away and they should appologies to Mickey for that.
 
If they're to make changes, please sack the so-called Asian Clive Lloyd. He is tactically inept, fails to lead from the front time and again, doesn't even justify his place in the side, and a racist.
 
My criticism against Inzi as chief selector is that he should have stood up to Mickey Arthur a lot more. The failure to groom spinners during his tenure was disasterous. But Inzi hasn't been completely shambolic, he has given plenty of youngsters to the team management and even some spinners, it was the team management's decision not to select and play them.

I think Inzi's correct role would be to become the team's batting coach.

Nobody has been groomed by Inzamam apart from Babar Azam and Imam ul Haq. Inzamam was the biggest roadblock for young batsmen thruout his term.

Please name the 'young spinners' selected by Inzamam apart from Shadab Khan. Was Usama Mir like spinner even given a go? Inzamam only selected a young spinner Asghar for the UAE tour v Sri Lanka whom team management ditched for Wahab Riaz.

Inzamam made 6 changes v Australia for UAE tour dropping the captain, Inzamam has had his way more than anyone incl. the captain, please don't manufacture information.

Throughout his tenure Inzamam never selected an opener or no. 3

There is no one who played with Arthur than Inzamam. Using fitness test dramas to help Salman Butt, Umar Akmal getting in team practices.

Hafeez inducted in a hurry before the Australian series.

How can one forget Fakhar Zaman dropped from NZ series citing fitness to somehow keep Imam in the team we lost the series first time to opposition in UAE 2-1. The kind of antics this selector has done to support his favorites is well known.
 
Mickey and Inzi deserve to be sacked for solely investing in Faheem. This shows both have no eye for talent. Can’t even realize how crap Faheem is. Wasted time and money on this useless.

Faheem was a batting all-rounder, one of the best power hitters in Pakistan who was forced into a bowling role. This was also due to the fixed places in the top order. Arthur wanted a cushion in the lower order due to inzi selections in the batting. If there was a sincere chief selector who had picked a multi-role batsman on merit, Faheem would never be tried to begin with
 
Inzimam has been the best selector of the past 20 years comfortably. Has he made mistakes ? Sure

But point at the squads selected over the past few years and out of the 15 players selected everyone would agree on the 13 atleast.

Arthur has implemented a fitness regimen which was crucially needed. Though his management and game planning skills have flaws as evidenced by the past, and during this pak stint. He needs to go.
 
No point commenting on the decision but . . What genius decided to leak this to the media on the eve of the world cup . . Absolutely ridiculous. . Like I always say . . Everything is run my a mafia with agendas! Wouldnt be surprised if these people actually want pak to fail in the world cup . .
 
Khalid Latif and Khurram Manzoor as openers

Fawad Alam in the middle order

Are you happy with this [MENTION=148737]Khwaja78[/MENTION]

NO
Sharjeel Khan in the opening
Middle order
Rizwan Hussain/Ali Khan/Hussain Tallat/Farhan/Hammad Azam/Saad
 
I think, it was written on the cards - it was probably written when Mani took over, but it was too close to WC, otherwise these two (& their assistants) would have been gone after Asia Cup. Performance of team is one thing, that depends on the quality of the team, but from Management perspective, that Asia Cup was a disaster.

I am certain if Wasim Khan has any say, they'll hire a foreigner as HC, probably from UK ... who'll bring one proper batting coach. Bowling coaches are most likely to be local. Amir Sohail as CS will be an improvement for sure and his assistants can't be worse than current 3.

All in all, great news, though shouldn't have been licked............
 
I think, it was written on the cards - it was probably written when Mani took over, but it was too close to WC, otherwise these two (& their assistants) would have been gone after Asia Cup. Performance of team is one thing, that depends on the quality of the team, but from Management perspective, that Asia Cup was a disaster.

I am certain if Wasim Khan has any say, they'll hire a foreigner as HC, probably from UK ... who'll bring one proper batting coach. Bowling coaches are most likely to be local. Amir Sohail as CS will be an improvement for sure and his assistants can't be worse than current 3.

All in all, great news, though shouldn't have been licked............
Your thoughts is always very good

Can you explain why Amir Sohail is better choice than Inzi
 
Inzi must go. He has no clue of domestic players and only picks people from PSL.

Worst time to announce though, wondering how bad this is going to be now during wc.
 
I know its easier said than done but why doesn't the PCB experiment and hire foreign selectors, foreign team manager?

Local Pakistani players are absolutely inefficient. Yes it will cost a lot but i last read that the PCB had somewhere around Rs 10 billion in their bank. Surely they can afford to hire 10-15 highly qualified foreigners for the team head coach role, NCA head coach, selection panel, team manager posts
 
Underperforming Imam?

Let me tell you something ... you want to take this case to court, good luck finding a lawyer who will take it. Hahaha

Let's see how many victories the over performing nephew takes Pakistan to at the WC.
 
I will not be surprised if the new coach persists with Azhar and Grant.
Previous fielding coach was amazing but unfortunately, poor PCB lose him.
 
Lol the right decision being made at a shocking time...
 
okay but why announce this now or is this another leak from the old cronies in the PCB who hate Wasim?
is this really the time to be giving out this information?

Coming on to the case of the chief selector. It seems we have a tradition on PP.

You see many of us remember the dark days of Iqbal Qasim and the oldies who were "volunteer" selectors. We would see the same players over and over e.g. Imran farhat or Shoaib Malik etc. Hell Aamir sohail should remember when he selected general sahibs beta. who can forget that?

It seems many who were too young to remember those days find it easy to have a go at Inzi. but I'll be honest, when compared to many of our previous selectors he has been the best. yes better than Bari, Qasim and all the relics from the 70's. He has made some bold selections, young players, batters and bowlers who will potentially take us into the next few years.

yes not everyones bromance favourite makes it to the starting lineup. yes they have failed to get a spinner sorted out but that isnt all inzi's fault. Their selections have been decent. Everyones favourites have had a run from fakhar to Haris sohail (the saviour). Who hasnt had a run? they even dropped wahab riaz whne other selectors would have selected him. Same with Amir.

So please stop the whining or youll get a selector like Amir sohail or wasim bari again..oh wait..
Absolutely spot on about Aamir Sohail..!
 
I hope Dean Jones is the new coach, Bazid Khan the new chief selector and Wasim the bowling coach. Even if we get Deano and Bazid, our cricket will improve significantly.
 
Why would you leak this right before a WC? Most important question here is, why? and who benefits from this leak the most? This is utterly unprofessional going into the most high profile tournament of your sport.
 
Regardless of anybodys opinion. This is not the kind of news to break 48 hours before the start of a WC.
 
Fans will always complain whoever is made coach or selector. I think changes need to be made simply because they had plenty of time to prepare for the world cup, and they ended up picking a squad where the only genuine spinners are two leggies who have an atrocious record over the past 12 months.

Only thing I can't understand is why this was leaked before the tournament, can't do the team morale any good at all.
 
They have made up their mind - implies that even the PCB has little hopes for this world cup.

Don't think either of them could get fired if we play the final - however unlikely that is.
 
Fans will always complain whoever is made coach or selector. I think changes need to be made simply because they had plenty of time to prepare for the world cup, and they ended up picking a squad where the only genuine spinners are two leggies who have an atrocious record over the past 12 months.

Only thing I can't understand is why this was leaked before the tournament, can't do the team morale any good at all.

This...it's absurd...
 
Let's see how many victories the over performing nephew takes Pakistan to at the WC.
If he helps us win as many trophies as all the wonderful selected on merit openers since 2003, and maintains his wonderful batting record across the board, I would say he deserves a place...
 
If they're to make changes, please sack the so-called Asian Clive Lloyd. He is tactically inept, fails to lead from the front time and again, doesn't even justify his place in the side, and a racist.
After the expected wc debacle, he is not going to survive either. Probably will be replaced by Rizwan for good.
 
He did lose his head but surely the rest of the batsmen were more than capable of getting 200 runs in 40 overs

Wasn't the first time Inzi lost his head in a WC match, apart from his 60 odd innings versus NZ in the 92 semis, the credit for which should actually go to Miandad for shepherding him along, Inzi was a colossal failure at the WC. Padded his test average post 2000 (averaged below 40 as late as '98) when bowling got easier and was an utter failure against the best team of his era, i.e. Australia.
 
If he helps us win as many trophies as all the wonderful selected on merit openers since 2003, and maintains his wonderful batting record across the board, I would say he deserves a place...

No he doesn't, he should have gotten in line and upped his average in the domestics. Otherwise, what's the point of the domestic? Let's just scrap it and all aspiring cricketers should try to get married into the Chief Selector's family.

What he has done in his inflated international performances is totally irrelevant to the discussion.
 
Wouldn't it had more sense if this announcement was delayed until middle of WC. Totally unprofessional. Seems like they are already thinking of scapegoats for the poor performance in WC.
 
The usual own goal process of destabilizing a team and management that's probably low on confidence already.
 
No he doesn't, he should have gotten in line and upped his average in the domestics. Otherwise, what's the point of the domestic? Let's just scrap it and all aspiring cricketers should try to get married into the Chief Selector's family.

What he has done in his inflated international performances is totally irrelevant to the discussion.

He isn’t the first and he won’t be the last to get picked without domestic cricket performances. Miandad, Imran, wasim, Inzi, Hasnain, shaheen shah, there are so many players who have been picked in the past and will continue to get picked in the future regardless of their domestic appearances and numbers. You can cry all you want about it but the bottom line is the people who pick players know more about cricket than you and me. And almost have a good reason to justify such selections. If a player ain’t good enough they eventually find themselves on the way out like crappy Faisal Iqbal, Akmal brothers, Farhat brothers, Junaid Zia, etc etc. frankly I was not in favor of Imad either. But he has been fairly consistent and is improving. Plus he is young and with more time and experience he will get better.
 
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Your thoughts is always very good

Can you explain why Amir Sohail is better choice than Inzi

Sohail is definitely more aware of domestic players and I think he is more involved in domestic cricket. As Captain Amir actually was quite smart, much smarter than Inzamam, therefore I expect him to be smarter for picking his combination. Also, CS role is more entrepreneurial, one has to be passionate about new players, get informed, be ahead of his time - one of my biggest reservation for Inzi was that, he was extremely lazy and laid back as player, didn't change as CS either. Amir definitely will be a better personality for the role.

I actually believe, Amir was among best few CS in PCB's history - enthusiastic, involved and quite straight forward. He started something after 2003 WC disaster (kicking out seniors), which probably will be the burning need after this WC. He had to leave last time along with Gen. Zia, but I am sure this time he'll be better prepared and do a good job.
 
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If these reports are true, the fans who think the selectors, management or even the captain are to blame for the recent poor run of results are in for a nasty shock.
 
Sohail is definitely more aware of domestic players and I think he is more involved in domestic cricket. As Captain Amir actually was quite smart, much smarter than Inzamam, therefore I expect him to be smarter for picking his combination. Also, CS role is more entrepreneurial, one has to be passionate about new players, get informed, be ahead of his time - one of my biggest reservation for Inzi was that, he was extremely lazy and laid back as player, didn't change as CS either. Amir definitely will be a better personality for the role.

I actually believe, Amir was among best few CS in PCB's history - enthusiastic, involved and quite straight forward. He started something after 2003 WC disaster (kicking out seniors), which probably will be the burning need after WC. He had to leave last time along with Gen. Zia, but I am sure this time he'll be better prepared and do a good job.

I don’t know, man. I agree with some of your points but I don’t think Sohail has a sound mind and judgment.
 
I don’t know, man. I agree with some of your points but I don’t think Sohail has a sound mind and judgment.

He has - he is ill tempered, so often anger gets better of his behavior, but he actually was a better choice for Captaincy than even Akram in mid 90s (PCB went for Rambo Raza, no wonder), and much better choice than Saeed. Long, long back, in a game he used some unique bowling combinations and later explained that, which was impressive.

Only issue could be double standards while selection, but I am sure there'll be check & balance this time. Also, PAK likely to appoint new Captain (s), for Test & ODI definitely, probably T20 as well - Amir is a better person to work with a new Captain than current man in charge.
 
Yeah Amir Sohail was alright as CS, Junaid Zia notwithstanding.

Those big name seniors culled after the 2003 WC had it coming and should've been moved on earlier for young blood.
 
Yeah Amir Sohail was alright as CS, Junaid Zia notwithstanding.

Those big name seniors culled after the 2003 WC had it coming and should've been moved on earlier for young blood.

Lol, Wasim Akram in an interview criticized the PCB for letting go of so many senior players in one go and said that he was willing to play for another year or two to lead to a smooth transition to youngsters. But in another interview he then mentioned the PCB were right to axe all the senior players for such a poor world cup. Incredibly confused individual.
 
Rasheed Latif - Chief Selector
Wasim Akram - Bowling Coach
M Yousuf - Batting Coach
M Arthur - Head Coach (atleast till 2020 t20 WC)
 
What about current bowling coach? Will he keep on working with bowlers to make them even more 'successful' than they are right now?
 
Wow great news.
New selector must make sure we stop selections based on PSL performances
 
Mickey and the rest of the coaching staff deserve the boot. Inzamam has been a better selector than Aamir Sohail, Iqbal Qasim, Haroon Rahid, etc.

People celebrating Eid over removal of Inzamam are blinded by their hate for him. Inzamam has done far better than his predecessors. I do not remember when was the last time so many young players received consistent opportunities.

The following players were given chances to demonstrate their ability.

Imam
Fakhar
Abid
Babar
Asif
Talat
Imad
Shadab
Faheem
Nawaz
Shaheen
Shinwari
Hasnain

That's at least 13 players.

Inzamam brought back Haris Sohail. He gave fair amount of chances to both Akmals. He selected Rizwan as Sarfraz's backup. He brought back Junaid.

His only fault has been the non-selection of a specialist spinner for which Inzy should not be the only one to blame. Clearly, Mickey is not big fan of spinners which is proved by the fact that he did not play a second spinner in tests even when there was one available.

The only seniors who were backed by Inzy were Hafeez and Malik who for the most part made the ODI team 100% on merit. Both of them are not even part of test team. He rightly kicked out non-performing players like Azhar, Shehzad, Umar, Asad, etc from ODIs.

If anyone thinks that removing Inzamam will benefit Pakistan cricket, they are in denial. Inzamam has done his job by selecting the best available players in Pakistan. There is none sitting at home who is better than the bunch currently playing for Pakistan.

For the first time ever, Pakistan will be going into a world cup with no passenger in the squad. 2015 had Younis Khan, Nasir Jamshed, and Rahat Ali of all people.
 
Mickey and the rest of the coaching staff deserve the boot. Inzamam has been a better selector than Aamir Sohail, Iqbal Qasim, Haroon Rahid, etc.

People celebrating Eid over removal of Inzamam are blinded by their hate for him. Inzamam has done far better than his predecessors. I do not remember when was the last time so many young players received consistent opportunities.

The following players were given chances to demonstrate their ability.

Imam
Fakhar
Abid
Babar
Asif
Talat
Imad
Shadab
Faheem
Nawaz
Shaheen
Shinwari
Hasnain

That's at least 13 players.

Inzamam brought back Haris Sohail. He gave fair amount of chances to both Akmals. He selected Rizwan as Sarfraz's backup. He brought back Junaid.

His only fault has been the non-selection of a specialist spinner for which Inzy should not be the only one to blame. Clearly, Mickey is not big fan of spinners which is proved by the fact that he did not play a second spinner in tests even when there was one available.

The only seniors who were backed by Inzy were Hafeez and Malik who for the most part made the ODI team 100% on merit. Both of them are not even part of test team. He rightly kicked out non-performing players like Azhar, Shehzad, Umar, Asad, etc from ODIs.

If anyone thinks that removing Inzamam will benefit Pakistan cricket, they are in denial. Inzamam has done his job by selecting the best available players in Pakistan. There is none sitting at home who is better than the bunch currently playing for Pakistan.

For the first time ever, Pakistan will be going into a world cup with no passenger in the squad. 2015 had Younis Khan, Nasir Jamshed, and Rahat Ali of all people.

Totally agreed. In my opinion Inzi is more suited to the batting coach position. But Inzi did his job as CS of Pakistan, if there is anything to critcize, he should have stood up to Mickey Arthur a lot more than he did.
 
[MENTION=139975]The_Odd_One[/MENTION] - another excellent post. Seem to be agreeing a lot recently. Unfortunately no answers are sufficient for Inzy bashers.
 
Inzi detractors are going to allege that Inzi benefited from the PSL and he did not do any teer by selecting the best players from the PSL. Last thing i know, the likes of Abid Ali, Saad Ali, Bilal Asif did not play in the PSL.
 
Totally agreed. In my opinion Inzi is more suited to the batting coach position. But Inzi did his job as CS of Pakistan, if there is anything to critcize, he should have stood up to Mickey Arthur a lot more than he did.

Inzamam definitely has a role in future setup. He was a tremendous batsman who can at least teach two things very well.

1. How to pace innings
2. How to finish games

Both are very big problem for Pakistani batsmen.
 
[MENTION=139975]The_Odd_One[/MENTION] - another excellent post. Seem to be agreeing a lot recently. Unfortunately no answers are sufficient for Inzy bashers.

Thanks for the kind words. Most of the criticism for Inzamam comes from the selection of Imam.

Imam's critics have not been able to forgive his selection despite him completely justifying it.
 
Thanks for the kind words. Most of the criticism for Inzamam comes from the selection of Imam.

Imam's critics have not been able to forgive his selection despite him completely justifying it.

Imam is garbage in tests. ODI he's ok.
 
He will choose players from a senior home rather than the domestic circuit.

Couldn't agree more and not to forget his love for defensive batsmen, so much so he felt compelled to recommenced Azhar Ali as captain even though he wasn't even part of the ODI squad.
 
Thanks for the kind words. Most of the criticism for Inzamam comes from the selection of Imam.

Imam's critics have not been able to forgive his selection despite him completely justifying it.

Not true for everyone. The only reason I don't feel comfortable with Imam is because I don't think he handles bouncers very well, and I don't like to see that weakness in an opener. Nothing to do with any suspicion of nepotism, I don't really care about blood ties, which is why I wasn't bothered when Amir Sohail picked Gen. Zias's son. I could see why Amir saw something in him.
 
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