[REPORTS] Saqlain Mushtaq to be appointed Head of International Players Development

[Savak]

Examples of him taking credit for players' success?

Lol, look at his comments for Babar Azam, Shadab, Mohd Amir, Fakhar Zaman, Mohd Amir, Faheem Ashraf, his blue eyed boys. And then his comments for Wahab, Hafeez, Umar Akmal.

Then who can forget how he threw Sarfaraz under the bus in 2018 "It wasn't my decision to open the bowling with Wahab and not with Mohd Abbas". There are other instances of where he publically criticized his players whereas more well renowned, respected coaches have handled these things in house. Let's not forget how Cricket Australia kicked this drama queen out, this homework saga and the Australian Dressingroom was a much happier place after he left

I am pretty certain the PCB had many solid reason's not to extend his contract and did not make that decision without serious thinking.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

It was indicated to him that his performance was to be reviewed. Obviously Ehsan Mani won’t tell him in the middle of the World Cup that they will remove him as that will affect the teams performances.

 

[Titan24]

Considering Saqlain’s international consultancy and coaching experience with Eng, NZ as well as WI I think he is a good to name to have in the development wing. NZ and Eng have grown a lot in terms of talent development in the last decade or so and Saqlain in his stints would have observed their best practices.

Personally cant think of many Pakistani cricketers with experience of international consultancy and coaching in different countries. I am not sure who were the international candidates but local would have been less experienced than Saqlain and I think some experience was required considering that with national team Misbah is still new with not much experience behind so its better to have some experience managing international talent at the back end.

Another thing is he is young as well which is a pleasant change in the development or administration part of PCB.

 

[MoFresh23]

Whether Saqlain is the right man for the job, only time will tell. I am sure we all hope he is.

But what intrigues me is when people say he's the best man for the job when they don't even know who else has applied for the job.

Yeah only time will tell. Inshallah he will be a great man for this job and inshallah he will succeed in this job. What I was trying to say was that there are many other people that applied and are good. However I was saying that experience is key for this post and Saqlain has lots of experience and valuable experience.

 

[Savak]

Bottom-line is the other candidates were not hard done by, it was pretty clear Saqlain was the best man available and any petty insinuations of bias in the recruitment process is just unprofessional sour grapes which get raised when it comes to favourite applications but get conveniently ignored when the likes of Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousaf raise the same issues ie they are drama queen's, the PCB is right to ignore them etc

 

[MoFresh23]

My point that he was making things up is that what he’s said cannot be proven.

And the same applies to you. You said because Wasim Khan said Mickey has his support until the World Cup that Mickey became ‘over confident’? How exactly can you determine that Mickey was ‘over confident’? Sorry but that’s a bold claim.

Mickeys main two achievements were his handling of Babar and Shaheen. True those two are talented players who may have been successful without Mickey but have a look at Babars career before and after Mickey took off.

As to the point about naming someone better than Misbah. That is irrelevant. It was a ridiculous process (conflict of interest), Misbah came out and said ‘he hadnt applied for the post and the rumours were wrong’ before suddenly applying anyway, and the fact that he did not meet the criteria for the position.

So it doesn’t matter whether I name someone better or not.

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My brother I didn't say Mickey became over confident when Wasim khan said that he will support him in the world cup. I said he did become over confident in which he thinks that he revolutionized Pakistan cricket and achieved something significant. The man had so many failures during his tenture.

Babar and Shaheens career would have been successful without MA. Mickey didn't even know Shaheen until the man played PSL. Babar was a successful before MA. Yeah he did good during MA, but it's not like MA changed his batting style or made any technical changes. Babar progressed on his own. MA just supported him which was expected being he is a coach. Babar and Shaheen are doing better under Misbah. Babar scores in test improved ever since Misbah took the role as Head Coach

 

[Thunderbolt14]

[MENTION=141936]MoFresh23[/MENTION] it hasn’t even been one year yet. And same for Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani who have spent only 1.5 years in office and already done a lot.

I have my own criticisms as well but I am never quick to judge.

 

[Abdullah719]

Lol, look at his comments for Babar Azam, Shadab, Mohd Amir, Fakhar Zaman, Mohd Amir, Faheem Ashraf, his blue eyed boys. And then his comments for Wahab, Hafeez, Umar Akmal.

Then who can forget how he threw Sarfaraz under the bus in 2018 "It wasn't my decision to open the bowling with Wahab and not with Mohd Abbas". There are other instances of where he publically criticized his players whereas more well renowned, respected coaches have handled these things in house. Let's not forget how Cricket Australia kicked this drama queen out, this homework saga and the Australian Dressingroom was a much happier place after he left

I am pretty certain the PCB had many solid reason's not to extend his contract and did not make that decision without serious thinking.

You completely avoided my question.

 

[Saj]

Someone asked me today about Saqlain's knowledge of Pakistan domestic cricket.

Any thoughts? I recall seeing him on tv a few times, but other than that, has he much knowledge of domestic cricket and cricketers in Pakistan?

 

[Fantasy]

Someone asked me today about Saqlain's knowledge of Pakistan domestic cricket.

Any thoughts? I recall seeing him on tv a few times, but other than that, has he much knowledge of domestic cricket and cricketers in Pakistan?

Who do you think should’ve been roped in for this post or all other high performance posts?

 

[Mir jibran]

Who do you think should’ve been roped in for this post or all other high performance posts?

The legend haroon rashid or king intikhab alam

 

[Fantasy]

The legend haroon rashid or king intikhab alam

Intikhab would’ve been perfect. Currently he is unemployed and it is extremely cruel from PCB to not selecting him in any capacity after what he has done for Pakistan cricket. Usko dewaar se lagaya jaa raha hain.

 

[Fantasy]

And to everyone thinking who was the foreigner who was interviewed as well, it was Toby Radford. He along with Saqi and Atiq were interviewed.

 

[MoFresh23]

And to everyone thinking who was the foreigner who was interviewed as well, it was Toby Radford. He along with Saqi and Atiq were interviewed.

Yes I just seen this report. His coaching experience is pretty good. He has coached West Indies and many county teams. But this is my point that I was trying to say for the last couple of days. Experience was the biggest factor.

Toby Radford has coached one international team which is West Indies as a batting coach and they won a T20 world cup.

Saqlain Mushtaq has coached I believe three international teams, England,New Zealand, and West Indies. His recent victory as a coach is the World Cup 2019.

Experience wise Saqlain has coached internationally more and in different systems and another plus for him is that he was a former cricketer and is a LEGEND

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Yes I just seen this report. His coaching experience is pretty good. He has coached West Indies and many county teams. But this is my point that I was trying to say for the last couple of days. Experience was the biggest factor.

Toby Radford has coached one international team which is West Indies as a batting coach and they won a T20 world cup.

Saqlain Mushtaq has coached I believe three international teams, England,New Zealand, and West Indies. His recent victory as a coach is the World Cup 2019.

Experience wise Saqlain has coached internationally more and in different systems and another plus for him is that he was a former cricketer and is a LEGEND

Agreed brother, I think the last time I was happy to see so many great names in one place it was 2012 and Avengers had just come out

 

[the Great Khan]

I will tell you what does not happen in proper organizations.

You do not pre-select candidates and then says its an open competition.

Of course Saqlain has good credentials but then what are we telling other candidates? Dont bother applying because the decision is already done.

sorry but that does happen. Happens all the time in some of the biggest orgs on the planet.

I was recently rejected for someone with half my experience because they were the preferred candidate by the manager and the interview process was a formality. It happens. I didnt like it but you gotta live with it and bide your time.

In top level roles , it is very common for someone to be head hunted and if not that then a preferred candidate goes through the process as a formality. Jones should know this as this is what happens in his country and other western countries where BAME candidate feel just like him. i suggest he park his white privilege.

 

[Saj]

Someone asked me today about Saqlain's knowledge of Pakistan domestic cricket.

Any thoughts? I recall seeing him on tv a few times, but other than that, has he much knowledge of domestic cricket and cricketers in Pakistan?

Anyone?

Just wondering what knowledge and experience he has of domestic cricket and players back home?

 

[Saj]

Who do you think should’ve been roped in for this post or all other high performance posts?

Without knowing the full list of candidates I wouldn't like to say.

 

[MoFresh23]

Agreed brother, I think the last time I was happy to see so many great names in one place it was 2012 and Avengers had just come out

In Pakistans cricket history I never seen something so exciting happen. I cant wait till more exciting reforms that are going to happen.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Anyone?

Just wondering what knowledge and experience he has of domestic cricket and players back home?

I’m sure you watch his videos. He has analyses on everyone from Shadab to Amir to Babar to Sarfaraz to Sharjeel and has been following Pakistan cricket very closely for the past several years. His suggestions are gold nuggets of information and he is very forward thinking (for example he believes in making Shadab Vice Captain in T20 and ODIs).

He often compresses information so there’s always more to his excellent analyses that he doesn’t go into detail about, but even in the 5 minutes he talks about players (such as discussing Sarfaraz’s method for comeback) he is clearly very well informed about what is happening in Pakistan cricket. He is no outsider just because he has spent time in the West Indies or UK.

His own role is regarding player development. To this end, he speaks in a lot of detail regarding the development of various Pakistan players, grooming their captaincy, identifying weaknesses in various players, etc.

No foreign coach can give this to you without spending 1-2 years already in the system.

Lastly, this is a management role. His clear vision and ability to communicate well will be core boons in his book.

One if his analyses is an excellent breakdown about the need for criteria when giving debuts to domestic players or when giving a player a comeback from domestic. He’s firm about the idea of setting a strict criteria, and only if they meet this criteria they should be inducted giving them a longer run where batsmen should get at least 6 consecutive limited over matches or 3 Tests before they are rested/benched ; bowlers should get at least 3 consecutive limited overs matches or 3 test matches.

All of these views are cultivated after closely following the Pakistan cricket system.

If he is able to implement these suggestions he has been providing from the outside for years now, PCB would do fantastic with him roped into management and developing pathways for upcoming players.

 

[MoFresh23]

Anyone?

Just wondering what knowledge and experience he has of domestic cricket and players back home?

When Pakistan revamped their domestic cricket, he made a video about the revamp system on his YouTube channel. He supported the revamped domestic structure. I watched it and he was saying how PCB made the right move and was saying how never be afraid to try something new. Based on what he way saying in couple of videos he made on his YouTube channel, he supports it 100%

I am sure that he knows what the domestic structure is all about and how it works.
What he was also saying is that the old system was there for years and never worked. But what I love what he said after is that he said that he supports the new management in which he knows that they did there deep analysis on the old system before removing that system and did a deep analysis on the new system.

In multiple videos he stresses that if the old system does not work, then never be afraid to try something new

 

[MoFresh23]

I’m sure you watch his videos. He has analyses on everyone from Shadab to Amir to Babar to Sarfaraz to Sharjeel and has been following Pakistan cricket very closely for the past several years. His suggestions are gold nuggets of information and he is very forward thinking (for example he believes in making Shadab Vice Captain in T20 and ODIs).

He often compresses information so there’s always more to his excellent analyses that he doesn’t go into detail about, but even in the 5 minutes he talks about players (such as discussing Sarfaraz’s method for comeback) he is clearly very well informed about what is happening in Pakistan cricket. He is no outsider just because he has spent time in the West Indies or UK.

His own role is regarding player development. To this end, he speaks in a lot of detail regarding the development of various Pakistan players, grooming their captaincy, identifying weaknesses in various players, etc.

No foreign coach can give this to you without spending 1-2 years already in the system.

Lastly, this is a management role. His clear vision and ability to communicate well will be core boons in his book.

One if his analyses is an excellent breakdown about the need for criteria when giving debuts to domestic players or when giving a player a comeback from domestic. He’s firm about the idea of setting a strict criteria, and only if they meet this criteria they should be inducted giving them a longer run where batsmen should get at least 6 consecutive limited over matches or 3 Tests before they are rested/benched ; bowlers should get at least 3 consecutive limited overs matches or 3 test matches.

All of these views are cultivated after closely following the Pakistan cricket system.

If he is able to implement these suggestions he has been providing from the outside for years now, PCB would do fantastic with him roped into management and developing pathways for upcoming players.

Absolutely when ever a squad is announced or after every game, as you said he analyzes as deep as possible by stating what were the positives and negatives of each game for Pakistan.

Absolutely if a foreigner was appointed, he would have to get used to Pakistan domestic system. Which would take some yrs.

I was watching some videos the past couple of days and what I love is that what ever he says he says it with facts. He also supports youngsters, which is positive knowing that in his new role he will be working with lots of youngsters.

He also has a eye for talent and can know the weaknesses of a player quickly.

No wonder ECB kept on hiring him as a Consultant.

 

[Hasan123]

He has a good understanding of the game as we saw as a bowler.

He can do a good job.

 

[Savak]

So what if Saqlain doesn't have up to date knowledge of domestic cricket atm, he can always pick up and catch up in no time when he gets on the ground. He played in this domestic system for ages. I would rather a new fresh guy with no immediate knowledge of the domestic players but with the ability to pick up in no time take charge versus a TTF with a monopoly on domestic cricket. The later is why the like of Intikhab Alam, Salim Altaf, Haroon Rasheed have enjoyed a monopoly in the PCB for ages.

 

[Saj]

I’m sure you watch his videos.

You'd be wrong.

I avoid most of the stuff our former players put on youtube, as most of it doesn't make any sense.

 

[KingOfPakBreakfast]

Anyone?

Just wondering what knowledge and experience he has of domestic cricket and players back home?

I envisage that his role will be on working in unison with the coaching staff at all 6 domestic sides at both junior, second XI and first XI levels. The stats/performances at domestic level, and input from the six coaching staff and the age group staff will lead to a player pool, that he will work with.

The other guys have elaborated on his knowledge of the new domestic structure. Once he has a player pool to work with, his role is to then bridge the gap between domestic and international by working on their game.

The weakness in this system is in the flawed player recommendations that the domestic coaches will make . Saqlain has to be assertive in also considering high performing youngsters at 2nd XI level (e.g. an Abdullah Shafique) when discussing prospects with the various coaches. However, with people like Mohammad Wasim at Northern around, InshAllah I'm hopeful that we'll see some promising lads get a go.

I also see Saqlain running the Shaheens for the duration of his role. InshAllah hopefully good things to come!

 

[Thunderbolt14]

You'd be wrong.

I avoid most of the stuff our former players put on youtube, as most of it doesn't make any sense.

Apologies I avoid most of it too, but I can say that Saqlain is the only one I’ve found worth watching. The rest are more interested in generating headlines or criticize without suggestions.

Saqlain speaks intelligently and stops talking when he has made his point. Unlike most of our other former cricketers.