RESPECT is won in the ring and Conor McGregor EARNED it

[shaz619]

Quiet frankly a lot of us in the Boxing world have egg on our faces when it came to how shallow we were when it came to his potential competitiveness in the fight. There were people who said Conor would not land a single punch never mind winning a round ! Not only did Conor land punches I had him win 3 rounds in the fight and while he didn't look as great in the second half even when he was losing rounds there was some sustained offence.

I expected a KO for Floyd in round 6 at the very least but was proved wrong, Floyd no doubt was getting his eye in during the first 3 but he did have trouble with Conor's unorthodox approach , angles and constant switching between southpaw and orthodox stances. What surprised me more then anything was his Jab! it was actually pretty good and his footwork was pretty decent to, his in-ring awareness and pacing were also positives; his timing is clearly a big strength and we saw that with some of his counters.

However, he wasn't able to land any significant power shots or that talked up left; and from what he did land the power wasn't really there but while he didn't hurt Floyd like a Shane Mosely; he managed to sustain his offence while quiet a few world class boxers failed such as Berto, Alvarez, Gurrero and even JMM ! Although it's worth pointing out that Floyd is quiet old now no doubt.

In the end his inexperience, the rigours of a 12 round fight and Floyd's class proved to be pivotal in Conor's defeat; but the man does have skill and I say that as a combat sport fan who follows both MMA and Boxing.

Congratulations to Floyd Mayweather on his stunning accomplishment of being 50-0, amongst undefeated world champions in the history of the spot; Floyd is only behind Barry (59 wins) and Ricardo Lopez (51 wins). Everyone has an opinion on him but his dominance which began in 1996 is outstanding, he has beaten them all and his hard work ethic , dedication to his craft, heart and desire for two decades is incredible.

With regards to this fight it sure was rated as a circus and what not but despite that there was massive pressure on Floyd, he was going into the unknown with regards to Conor's style and at the same time he had to defend the reputation of Boxing when there were folk who completely wrote off the guy from a completely different spot; in the end he got the stoppage win and while Conor gave a good account of himself Floyd even at the age of 40 did not embarrass himself and displayed the skills which have kept him on top for so long.

Overall the fight itself from my POV exceeded all expectations and was far from a mismatch, I can see Conor potentially boxing again. I didn't buy the PPV though am saving me money for Alvarez v Triple G

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=142288]TQ89[/MENTION]

 

[shaz619]

Also [MENTION=396]mani1[/MENTION] Poor Cleverly lol I think he should retire

 

[shaz619]

This was also the first time in years that the fans began to applaud Floyd after a fight finally gets respect at the end there, was nice to see the fans cheer for him and pay homage to a legend of the sport which they probably have seen for the final time

 

[shaz619]

Also got to give massive credit to the ref Byrd who did one hell of a job ! there were so many potential scenarios and complications but he did well, was not biased and remained objective throughout; the stoppage at the end was perfect as well and he was very merciful, it could have been a lot more ugly then that; I know the Irish would have preferred to hit the canvas but when you're not use to getting hit in a boxing ring at such a high level there could have been some serious damage, well done to the ref

 

[in_cutter]

The whole thing was a farce. Floyd should wipe ths embarassment off his proud record.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Respect for what exactly, mcgregor got destroyed by a 40 year old retired boxer

 

[TQ89]

Respect for Connor. Man what a fighter, kept standing even after he was gassed out. His grit amazes me. This is the reason why he achieved so much in the space of two and half years. Very passionate and obsessed athlete

 

[TQ89]

Kudos to mayweather too. He did what he always does, fought deep and defended himself while attacking with precise hits. Clinical performance by him

 

[Red Devil]

Totally agree, he did really well considering this was his first ever pro boxing match and too against an all time great of the sport!

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Do you think he can transition from MMA to boxing and become a successful boxer if he chooses to pursue the sport properly?

 

[shaz619]

Totally agree, he did really well considering this was his first ever pro boxing match and too against an all time great of the sport!

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Do you think he can transition from MMA to boxing and become a successful boxer if he chooses to pursue the sport properly?

I would say yes but he is too old, he'd need at least 3-4 years of training and by then he may not be able to compete with best names in the division. He'd be banking mostly on outboxing his opponents over 12 rounds and would need to be supremely fit with a decent chin, because he doesn't have any power to cause much trouble. I think he would have been world champion though if he went into Boxing instead of MMA. If he box's now he could target faded names like Paul Malignagi to get a big pay day but most likely will return to the UFC

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

He did well to last until 10 rounds to be fair, but the problem here is that he's still not a boxer. If he was, you would back him to beat one of the other contenders, but seriously, would you? I didn't buy the fight because I didn't think there was a realistic chance of Conor winning. For those who watched it, can anyone answer that question if he'd have much chance against any other rated boxer? One who's not way past their peak I mean.

 

[shaz619]

He did well to last until 10 rounds to be fair, but the problem here is that he's still not a boxer. If he was, you would back him to beat one of the other contenders, but seriously, would you? I didn't buy the fight because I didn't think there was a realistic chance of Conor winning. For those who watched it, can anyone answer that question if he'd have much chance against any other rated boxer? One who's not way past their peak I mean.

It's just the achievement in itself, he did a lot better then I thought he would and also went 10 rounds against one of the greatest of all time. But would he beat any of the contenders ? big fat no and it's better he returns to the UFC because I have no interest in watching him face Paul Malignagi.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

lol @ going 10 rounds, the only reason it went to 10 rounds was because mayweather didn't do anything in the first few rounds. Mvgregor could barely stand the last 2-3 rounds, he gassed out against a 40 year old retired boxer who is way past his prime

 

[shaz619]

Any purist would be able to see that he did have problems with his awkward style early on and fighting defensively would not have helped him which is why he was forced to adjust and be aggressive. I'd have thought even the noobs would not be surprised by the fact that there are levels between conditioning in an MMA and Boxing fight, going 10 rounds with one of the best ever even at 50 years old would be a big achievement for a novice; having said that Floyd did not look shot, he put on one hell of a performance and was in tremendous shape, 149.5lb indicated that if there was any doubt.

 

[FreakCricket]

I wanted Money Mayweather to beat the Irish outta that joker, this was the most stupid fight I have ever watched on tv.
Knock out punch would have been fitting, If Mayweather was serious he would have destroyed the joker in 3 rounds.

 

[shaz619]

#Casuals

That has been the boost, both sports got more exposure due to them; hopefully they buy future events

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have respect for McGregor because not long ago he was chasing a welfare cheque in his early UFC days and now he has provided security for his family forever.

As to the fight, we cannot call it a boxing match up at all, it was a total farce, a disgrace to the great sport of boxing. Fraud Mayweather was purposely clowning around leaping in and allowing himself to be hit. He is one of the all time great boxers and arguably the greatest defensive boxer but a guy who was terrible, hit him easily. The whole thing was a fraud and I have no doubt round 10 was planned to end the fight. Vegas is the home of gambling, some people made a lot of money knowing the outcome.

 

[James]

Conor lasted a lot longer then many others would (and have) which deserves some credit, however I watched the fight back today and he looked abysmal in the end, couldn't even punch.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Conor lasted a lot longer then many others would (and have) which deserves some credit, however I watched the fight back today and he looked abysmal in the end, couldn't even punch.

You must have been really bored lol

 

[Abdullah]

He did well to last until 10 rounds to be fair, but the problem here is that he's still not a boxer. If he was, you would back him to beat one of the other contenders, but seriously, would you? I didn't buy the fight because I didn't think there was a realistic chance of Conor winning. For those who watched it, can anyone answer that question if he'd have much chance against any other rated boxer? One who's not way past their peak I mean.

I'm with u here. Floyd was not his usual self at all and that was less to do with mcgregor ( who did exceed expectation) but Floyd would have also lost to a canelo and ggg if he turned up and fought like that.
Mcgregor would have taken a serious beating by those two and would have got really hurt by round 6.
Floyd will not fight again. It will be a mistake if he does

 

[shaz619]

I'm with u here. Floyd was not his usual self at all and that was less to do with mcgregor ( who did exceed expectation) but Floyd would have also lost to a canelo and ggg if he turned up and fought like that.
Mcgregor would have taken a serious beating by those two and would have got really hurt by round 6.
Floyd will not fight again. It will be a mistake if he does

He fought like that because be had zero respect for Conor's power who could not translate his weight into his punches, Conor could not hurt Floyd at all and was walked down and he also had to fight that way due to Conor being an awkward style so pressure to cut him off was a better strategy. People are mistaken if they think he would fight that way vs GGG or a Canelo whom he beat on his backfoot

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Yeah the fight has been given many labels but a positive is that both sports got a lot of exposure from the casuals and that's a great thing moving forward, truth be told boxing has been doing some awful numbers on PPV for a while now

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Yeah the fight has been given many labels but a positive is that both sports got a lot of exposure from the casuals and that's a great thing moving forward, truth be told boxing has been doing some awful numbers on PPV for a while now

Tbh these casuals who jump on the hype really do my head in. All week I've been hearing from all kinds of people who probably dont know how may rounds the fight was about who will win and why. We've had cinemas in England where yobs have been fighting inside while the fight was on, the hype has been over board imo. A lot of people probably haven't seen a full boxing fight from Vegas at such a time, so did this fight help them to get interested in real boxing? I highly doubt most of these will be watching Canelo V GGG.

The problem is the promoters wants as much money so want PPV but most boxing shouldn't be on PPV. The adverting alone generates millions, PPV is just extra greed. Most purists I knew didn't pay for this fight because they knew it wouldn't be a boxing classic but an exhibition which it was. If people enjoyed the whole pre fight entertanment, the 'fight' and the hype, fair enough but as a boxing fan I would have rather saw Floyd taken on someone like Spencer or any other young and upcoming star.

 

[shaz619]

Tbh these casuals who jump on the hype really do my head in. All week I've been hearing from all kinds of people who probably dont know how may rounds the fight was about who will win and why. We've had cinemas in England where yobs have been fighting inside while the fight was on, the hype has been over board imo. A lot of people probably haven't seen a full boxing fight from Vegas at such a time, so did this fight help them to get interested in real boxing? I highly doubt most of these will be watching Canelo V GGG.

The problem is the promoters wants as much money so want PPV but most boxing shouldn't be on PPV. The adverting alone generates millions, PPV is just extra greed. Most purists I knew didn't pay for this fight because they knew it wouldn't be a boxing classic but an exhibition which it was. If people enjoyed the whole pre fight entertanment, the 'fight' and the hype, fair enough but as a boxing fan I would have rather saw Floyd taken on someone like Spencer or any other young and upcoming star.

I don't like these casuals either and you know how much I dislike Matchroom and Eddie but at the end of the day he has boosted the sport in the UK, the truth is that casuals have historically driven the business and while Floyd/Conor was a farce from the POV of us purists it captured the imagination of the public, we no longer have a Nas, Tyson or Ali; Floyd/Oscar have retired and Manny will be gone soon to. During this whole promotion our sport has been given exposure and the likes of GGG/Canelo have been discussed as well, keeping our sport in the limelight is a boost moving forward.

Ads may have driven the business in the past but with so many platforms PPV is necessary in this market to make something substantial and fighters need to get paid well. Tbh a lot of fights in recent times have been on FTA ! Lomachenko's recent fight was on ESPN, so was Crawford's unification was on FTA as well; Top Rank and ESPN have signed a lucrative deal to show many fights on FTA, CBS, PBC and Showtime have also followed in their footsteps; Thurman/Garcia was on FTA as well, admittedly all these contests on FTA have done very well in terms of viewership but PPV is also needed to elevate Boxing when the UFC cross 1 million PPV buys 6 times in 2016 alone!

Yeah I didn't pay for it either am going to pay £12 for GGG v Canelo online stream it's going to be on Boxnation

 

[KingKhanWC]

I don't like these casuals either and you know how much I dislike Matchroom and Eddie but at the end of the day he has boosted the sport in the UK, the truth is that casuals have historically driven the business and while Floyd/Conor was a farce from the POV of us purists it captured the imagination of the public, we no longer have a Nas, Tyson or Ali; Floyd/Oscar have retired and Manny will be gone soon to. During this whole promotion our sport has been given exposure and the likes of GGG/Canelo have been discussed as well, keeping our sport in the limelight is a boost moving forward.

Ads may have driven the business in the past but with so many platforms PPV is necessary in this market to make something substantial and fighters need to get paid well. Tbh a lot of fights in recent times have been on FTA ! Lomachenko's recent fight was on ESPN, so was Crawford's unification was on FTA as well; Top Rank and ESPN have signed a lucrative deal to show many fights on FTA, CBS, PBC and Showtime have also followed in their footsteps; Thurman/Garcia was on FTA as well, admittedly all these contests on FTA have done very well in terms of viewership but PPV is also needed to elevate Boxing when the UFC cross 1 million PPV buys 6 times in 2016 alone!

Yeah I didn't pay for it either am going to pay £12 for GGG v Canelo online stream it's going to be on Boxnation

You make a fair points. I would like to see more free to air boxing on terrestrial tv, still remember the ITV boxing nights which as a young kid got me interested in the sport. Boxing is a tough sport , as you know people are literally risking their lives every time they step into the ring and I have no issues with them making millions but £30 million for a fight which may not last 20 mins is inflated imo. We also need more fights in the UK so people can watch them at a reasonable hour, kids won't or shouldn't be awake at 5.00am to watch a Vegas Showdown. If I was 5/6 years old now, I probably wouldn't be interested in the sport, this imo is what really is hurting boxing in the UK.

 

[shaz619]

You make a fair points. I would like to see more free to air boxing on terrestrial tv, still remember the ITV boxing nights which as a young kid got me interested in the sport. Boxing is a tough sport , as you know people are literally risking their lives every time they step into the ring and I have no issues with them making millions but £30 million for a fight which may not last 20 mins is inflated imo. We also need more fights in the UK so people can watch them at a reasonable hour, kids won't or shouldn't be awake at 5.00am to watch a Vegas Showdown. If I was 5/6 years old now, I probably wouldn't be interested in the sport, this imo is what really is hurting boxing in the UK.

I think they also need to look at PPV cost, in America they are like 50 quid mate !! even 20 quid is too much for me in the UK There needs to be a decent balance between FTA and PPV to ensure the health of the sport, last 3 years have been bad. ITV as it stands have gone into PPV with Eubank as their star attraction but they do air some of the undercard bouts on FTA and I think Channel 5 tend to put on some decent fights here and there, Frank has been doing a great job with Boxnation to the 12 quid you pay is a steal because you get access for a month and no contract when you sign up. Yeah those ITV cards were amazing, loved them. We"ll never be able to watch a Vegas showdown outside 4-5am unfortunately but the UK bouts tend to be timed alright, most main events tend to be around 10pm ? I think.

The sky monopoly does hurt the sport in the UK and FTA would certainly boost the sport but right now I'd say the scene is generally healthy, we have so many world champions and Hearn manages to sell PPV's being headlined by bums; but that's the spectacle of Anthony Joshua who tends to be the main draw and he builds a card around him. It's really weird but I'd say the UK is the place to be when it comes to Boxing and not the US! That's why you have the likes of Andre Ward eyeing Tony Bellew and Anthony Joshua, he knows that he"ll get a career high pay day and fans here tend to appreciate him more as well.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I think they also need to look at PPV cost, in America they are like 50 quid mate !! even 20 quid is too much for me in the UK There needs to be a decent balance between FTA and PPV to ensure the health of the sport, last 3 years have been bad. ITV as it stands have gone into PPV with Eubank as their star attraction but they do air some of the undercard bouts on FTA and I think Channel 5 tend to put on some decent fights here and there, Frank has been doing a great job with Boxnation to the 12 quid you pay is a steal because you get access for a month and no contract when you sign up. Yeah those ITV cards were amazing, loved them. We"ll never be able to watch a Vegas showdown outside 4-5am unfortunately but the UK bouts tend to be timed alright, most main events tend to be around 10pm ? I think.

The sky monopoly does hurt the sport in the UK and FTA would certainly boost the sport but right now I'd say the scene is generally healthy, we have so many world champions and Hearn manages to sell PPV's being headlined by bums; but that's the spectacle of Anthony Joshua who tends to be the main draw and he builds a card around him. It's really weird but I'd say the UK is the place to be when it comes to Boxing and not the US! That's why you have the likes of Andre Ward eyeing Tony Bellew and Anthony Joshua, he knows that he"ll get a career high pay day and fans here tend to appreciate him more as well.

I think you make the most important point with regards to Joshua. Boxing is a sport which heavily relies upon personalities who the public want to see which is why Amir Khan is so popular, he isn't the funniest guy or a bad boy like Tyson but you know the fight will be exciting as he has great heart and rare skills.

Maybe more amatuer boxing shown on the likes of BBC or ITV in the daytime will help too. Going to the boxing on a night out is also becoming popular, a lad I know made his heavyweight debut at the Holiday Inn in Brum a few weeks ago, the crowd was good and mixed too. Anything publicity which helps the sport is good though.

 

[Abdullah]

He fought like that because be had zero respect for Conor's power who could not translate his weight into his punches, Conor could not hurt Floyd at all and was walked down and he also had to fight that way due to Conor being an awkward style so pressure to cut him off was a better strategy. People are mistaken if they think he would fight that way vs GGG or a Canelo whom he beat on his backfoot

It's interesting. I haven't ever seen mayweather underprepare.
But if he came out like he did against a proper boxer ( you are saying he wouldn't as he would prepare properly) it would be very very intersting.
But I am 100 per cent conor would have got really hurt against a ggg or canelo by round 6

 

[Eagle_Eye]

No he did not! It was complete farce, the mug punters bred on WWE got fleeced.

The mug punters had to be given worth for their money and hence mayweather strolled to 9 rounds before stopping him ... everyone is happy and mayweather and CM laughing all the way to the bank

Mayweather & CM 1 - mug punters 0

 

[shaz619]

It's interesting. I haven't ever seen mayweather underprepare.
But if he came out like he did against a proper boxer ( you are saying he wouldn't as he would prepare properly) it would be very very intersting.
But I am 100 per cent conor would have got really hurt against a ggg or canelo by round 6

He prepared very well for Conor and weighed in 149.5lb that just goes to show how serious he took this bout, it's just that he has the ability to make the necessary adjustments during a fight. He had a look at what Conor was doing in the first 3, he was subdued and patient; but saw that applying pressure would be the better strategy to break Conor's rhythm and press for the KO as well when Conor had zero power. If you also watch Floyd fights prior to 2007/06 he fought similarly, he systematically broke his opponents down and his fights were a lot more exciting but he also took punishment which caused immense fatigue, then he developed his defensive style given his high IQ to prolong his longevity.

Yeah GGG or Canelo would have taken out Conor in within 4-5 rounds, they are the younger and active fighters who naturally press forward, Floyd use to fight that way but it was a long time ago; anyhow Canelo/GGG also pack a real punch when it comes to their power and quiet frankly it would be seriously dangerous if the fight was sanctioned because Conor would potentially suffer serious injuries.

 

[shaz619]

I think you make the most important point with regards to Joshua. Boxing is a sport which heavily relies upon personalities who the public want to see which is why Amir Khan is so popular, he isn't the funniest guy or a bad boy like Tyson but you know the fight will be exciting as he has great heart and rare skills.

Maybe more amatuer boxing shown on the likes of BBC or ITV in the daytime will help too. Going to the boxing on a night out is also becoming popular, a lad I know made his heavyweight debut at the Holiday Inn in Brum a few weeks ago, the crowd was good and mixed too. Anything publicity which helps the sport is good though.

The Olympics are always a huge draw when amateurs are often showcased but the sport is let down by the god awful and corrupt reffing as we saw last year with Conlan, but every now and then they do air national and European tournaments. I still remember when the BBC covered Luke Campbell winning a Gold at the European championship, he would top it up with a Gold in London; big test for him against Linares this month.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] Decent fights in September to look forward to:

GGG v Canelo
Linares v Luke
BJS v Willie Monroe jr
Parker v Fury
Callum Smith vs. Erik Skoglund

They should more then make up for all the upset caused to you by Conor/Floyd

 

[SL_Fan]

Not so sure about that one. Thought he would approach things a bit smarter. Mayweather was always going to play it safe first few rounds to work things out. McGregor showed his hand way too early and did exactly what Floyd would have wanted him to do. By the start of round four McGregor was pretty much spent. Game over.

 

[humzy]

I was surprised at how badly mayweather fought and how well McGregor fought in the first few rounds.

I think mayweather is well and truly past his prime and I am glad he is retiring for good. There are some killers out there who wouldn't be a breeze like mcgregor was.

Anyone excited for the GGG and Canelo fight?

 

[IMMY69]

I said it would go into the later rounds to satisfy the promoters and fans. Seems like it worked.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's interesting. I haven't ever seen mayweather underprepare.
But if he came out like he did against a proper boxer ( you are saying he wouldn't as he would prepare properly) it would be very very intersting.
But I am 100 per cent conor would have got really hurt against a ggg or canelo by round 6

Never mind GGG or Canelo, he wouldn't be able to last that long against most run of the mill boxers. I was watching a pundit on Sky Sports yesterday saying he wouldn't even be good enough to win the British title, never mind the world belt. Can anyone seriously argue otherwise? I think most British contenders would stop McGregor within 5 rounds personally. He's not a boxer, he'd get destroyed by a hungry professional.

 

[shaz619]

Never mind GGG or Canelo, he wouldn't be able to last that long against most run of the mill boxers. I was watching a pundit on Sky Sports yesterday saying he wouldn't even be good enough to win the British title, never mind the world belt. Can anyone seriously argue otherwise? I think most British contenders would stop McGregor within 5 rounds personally. He's not a boxer, he'd get destroyed by a hungry professional.

That's all true, but for a guy with zero experience amateur or pro to go 10 rounds in his debut in itself is incredible never mind his opponent being Floyd Mayweather; I don't think people appreciate how tough the sport of Boxing but a fair chunk of purists who had severely criticised the event and Conor's chances have given credit where due to Conor.

If Conor McGregor was like a decorated amateur and they built him up and he had a 4 round fight, a 6 round fight and then after 15 fights he was like 14-1, and then fought a contender; even if he lost to the contender, right? But at least he held his own over ten rounds, it usually takes about 5 years to build a guy like that out of the amateurs and then he would have a chance to win a round against someone half as good as Floyd Mayweather. But he turned pro after not being in a boxing ring competitively since the days he went to an ABC club in Ireland and fight one of the best pure boxers of all time? It doesn’t matter if he's 55 years of age.

It was clear he has a high IQ and proper fighting brain and that allowed for the success he did have in the fight and being able to last as long as he did, he had prepared well and the heart / determination was commendable. Conor was at times stepping behind Floyd, that suggested his feet were faster but being the younger man you'd expect that but also because there was some skill and athleticism. His in-ring IQ was also the reason for him not loading up his punches, his offence was calculated and compubox stats are flawed, he did not land 111 punches but he probably landed around a dozen punches during the fight clean and that's more then a lot of fighters manage.

He was obviously out of his depth though with regards to his technique because there was no weight being translated into his punches but you expect that when it's an art which fighters perfect from a young age, Conor besides that upper cut and a couple of punches mostly threw arm punches; you can get away with throwing them in the Octogon with 4oz gloves but with 8-10oz you need to be able to focus on torque and your technique when translating your body weight into everything you throw even a simple Jab. But overall when you factor in everything his effort deserves respect given how challenging the sport is.

 

[Amir]

That's all true, but for a guy with zero experience amateur or pro to go 10 rounds in his debut in itself is incredible never mind his opponent being Floyd Mayweather; I don't think people appreciate how tough the sport of Boxing but a fair chunk of purists who had severely criticised the event and Conor's chances have given credit where due to Conor.

If Conor McGregor was like a decorated amateur and they built him up and he had a 4 round fight, a 6 round fight and then after 15 fights he was like 14-1, and then fought a contender; even if he lost to the contender, right? But at least he held his own over ten rounds, it usually takes about 5 years to build a guy like that out of the amateurs and then he would have a chance to win a round against someone half as good as Floyd Mayweather. But he turned pro after not being in a boxing ring competitively since the days he went to an ABC club in Ireland and fight one of the best pure boxers of all time? It doesn’t matter if he's 55 years of age.

It was clear he has a high IQ and proper fighting brain and that allowed for the success he did have in the fight and being able to last as long as he did, he had prepared well and the heart / determination was commendable. Conor was at times stepping behind Floyd, that suggested his feet were faster but being the younger man you'd expect that but also because there was some skill and athleticism. His in-ring IQ was also the reason for him not loading up his punches, his offence was calculated and compubox stats are flawed, he did not land 111 punches but he probably landed around a dozen punches during the fight clean and that's more then a lot of fighters manage.

He was obviously out of his depth though with regards to his technique because there was no weight being translated into his punches but you expect that when it's an art which fighters perfect from a young age, Conor besides that upper cut and a couple of punches mostly threw arm punches; you can get away with throwing them in the Octogon with 4oz gloves but with 8-10oz you need to be able to focus on torque and your technique when translating your body weight into everything you throw even a simple Jab. But overall when you factor in everything his effort deserves respect given how challenging the sport is.

Exactly at the end of the day. It was a spectacle. And it delivered with respect to that. It was not to be treated as a official purist boxing fight. Go watch the lower card for that. This was for one guy to cross worlds. Doesn't matter Floyd is 40, Conor was fighting was first professional match against one of the best ever, not some hobo fighter.

He did remarkably well for that. He did better than guys who train their whole lives. He even landed more punches than Pacquio (from what I heard).

On top of that. Conor is a brand. And lets be honest, in recent years, boxing has been on downhill trend. Mayweather Pacquio was the last fight that caught the mainstream medias attention. There is always questionable judges decisions (last fight of Pacquio or one before it) - and given how much betting there is involved, would not surprise me to see if there is some fixing. If Mayweather was fighting some regular boxer, no one would care other than boxing fans. No, this one got the worlds attention cause of Conor and his antics. To me, he hyped this fight and made it what it was. A spectacle we will rarely see.

And all those saying "he wouldn't last against a younger fighter and Canelo...blah blah blah." Ok, lets see Canello and GGG then step into a MMA fight and see what happens. Conor is not a trained boxer. He is an MMA fighter. Put a boxer in his world and trust me, it wouldn't go past the first minute.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Exactly at the end of the day. It was a spectacle. And it delivered with respect to that. It was not to be treated as a official purist boxing fight. Go watch the lower card for that. This was for one guy to cross worlds. Doesn't matter Floyd is 40, Conor was fighting was first professional match against one of the best ever, not some hobo fighter.

He did remarkably well for that. He did better than guys who train their whole lives. He even landed more punches than Pacquio (from what I heard).

On top of that. Conor is a brand. And lets be honest, in recent years, boxing has been on downhill trend. Mayweather Pacquio was the last fight that caught the mainstream medias attention. There is always questionable judges decisions (last fight of Pacquio or one before it) - and given how much betting there is involved, would not surprise me to see if there is some fixing. If Mayweather was fighting some regular boxer, no one would care other than boxing fans. No, this one got the worlds attention cause of Conor and his antics. To me, he hyped this fight and made it what it was. A spectacle we will rarely see.

And all those saying "he wouldn't last against a younger fighter and Canelo...blah blah blah." Ok, lets see Canello and GGG then step into a MMA fight and see what happens. Conor is not a trained boxer. He is an MMA fighter. Put a boxer in his world and trust me, it wouldn't go past the first minute.

Well that's the whole point, I'd happily watch McGregor fight in the UFC, that's where he belongs. In fact it's a shame he's not been fighting regularly there recently because he's (understandably) been chasing big money to fight Mayweather. I'm not interested in seeing boxers in MMA rings or MMA fighters in boxing rings. That's just me personally though, if others want to, fine by me.

But am I going to respect him for it? No man, get back in the UFC and fight some proper contenders.

 

[shaz619]

Exactly at the end of the day. It was a spectacle. And it delivered with respect to that. It was not to be treated as a official purist boxing fight. Go watch the lower card for that. This was for one guy to cross worlds. Doesn't matter Floyd is 40, Conor was fighting was first professional match against one of the best ever, not some hobo fighter.

He did remarkably well for that. He did better than guys who train their whole lives. He even landed more punches than Pacquio (from what I heard).

On top of that. Conor is a brand. And lets be honest, in recent years, boxing has been on downhill trend. Mayweather Pacquio was the last fight that caught the mainstream medias attention. There is always questionable judges decisions (last fight of Pacquio or one before it) - and given how much betting there is involved, would not surprise me to see if there is some fixing. If Mayweather was fighting some regular boxer, no one would care other than boxing fans. No, this one got the worlds attention cause of Conor and his antics. To me, he hyped this fight and made it what it was. A spectacle we will rarely see.

And all those saying "he wouldn't last against a younger fighter and Canelo...blah blah blah." Ok, lets see Canello and GGG then step into a MMA fight and see what happens. Conor is not a trained boxer. He is an MMA fighter. Put a boxer in his world and trust me, it wouldn't go past the first minute.

I wouldn't say he did better then guys who train their whole lives but credit where due for lasting as long as he did and displaying a bit of skill, CompuBox stats are flawed and what Conor did manage to land had no affect on Floyd which is why he walked him down because he had no respect for his power. I agree with the point on the main stream attention the fight generated, think it's a boost for both sports.

Well more often then not if a boxer when to MMA he would get destroyed and vice versa but I'd always give the boxer more of a shot in the Octogan because MMA is not specialised enough; and this is vindicated by Holly Holms success; she was the greatest female boxer in history before taking up MMA and then she'd dethrone Ronda Rousey. As it stands Holly is the only sportsman to win world titles in Boxing and MMA, it's worth pointing out that she had made the transition from the squared circle to the Octogan.

 

[IMMY69]

I just watched the first three rounds of the fight and then fast forwarded the rest..

What a complete and utter farce...

you only had to watch the first round to know it wasn't a proper fight.

 

[shaz619]

Mike Tyson changes tune on Conor McGregor

http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing...r/news-story/7d2774018391f63f01efb50dfedca1f6

MIKE Tyson was among the army of former boxers who ridiculed Conor McGregor in the lead-up to his fight against Floyd Mayweather.

“McGregor is going to get killed in boxing,” Tyson said, ahead of last Sunday’s fight.
“McConor (sic) put his dumb a*** in a position where he’s gonna get knocked out because this guy’s (Mayweather) been doing this all his life since he was a baby.

“McConor (sic) can’t kick and grab and stuff so he won’t stand much of a chance. McGregor took the biggest sucker rules in the history of boxing.”

McGregor returned fire at the former heavyweight champ, tweeting: “That’s nice Mike, but you’re looking at the new Don King here, son. Money is mine.”

Many didn’t change their views on the UFC star after he lost via 10th round TKO against the retiring legend.
But Iron Mike is singing a different tune.

“It was exciting, I thought he did great,” said Tyson, in an interview on the Luke Thomas Show.
“Man, I’d give him an ‘A,’ he did great,” he added, when asked to give McGregor a grade for his performance.
“A guy that never did that before and went 10 rounds, never fought before, golly. Listen, he’s got a big set of balls just to go in the ring.”

Tyson agreed with McGregor’s assessment the referee intervened a little too early in the 10th round — calling off the bout before a knockdown — and said money should dictate whether he returns to the UFC or stays in boxing.

“He should’ve went down, the guy stopped it a little too quick,” Tyson said.
“McGregor is better than I thought he was as a fighter. I knew he’d get knocked out, but I didn’t think he would last that long.

“He’s capable of doing anything else. He can do it if he wants to. I would say go back to UFC, but if you get paid more money boxing I would box.”

 

[shaz619]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McGregor unbelievable never gone 10 round before impossible he made a fight hurt Mayweather too <a href="https://t.co/62g68fg3xf">https://t.co/62g68fg3xf</a></p>— George Foreman (@GeorgeForeman) <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgeForeman/status/901681485069078529">27 August 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All the experts who trashed the (McGregor/ Mayweather fight) should apologize. It was competitive.</p>— George Foreman (@GeorgeForeman) <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgeForeman/status/901688038622932992">27 August 2017</a></blockquote>
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Big George enjoyed the fight and Tyson changed his tune as well, as fans we can be really obnoxious at times but when students of the game give credit where due it should at the very least indicate that our criticisms can be overly harsh and out of touch.

 

[shaz619]

A number of reports have indicated that the PPV buyrate is set to break Manny/Floyd record of 4.6 million buys, they have forecasted around 5 million PPV buys as it stands and that number could potentially increase, and Dana White has given an unofficial number; an astonishing 6.5 million PPV buys! if that is confirmed it would be absolutely incredible, unreal. They have broken the live gate already that was confirmed at 80 million, 10 more then then the Manny/Floyd fight. But 6.5 million PPV buys ! if true would have exceeded all expectations

 

[IMMY69]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McGregor unbelievable never gone 10 round before impossible he made a fight hurt Mayweather too <a href="https://t.co/62g68fg3xf">https://t.co/62g68fg3xf</a></p>— George Foreman (@GeorgeForeman) <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgeForeman/status/901681485069078529">27 August 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All the experts who trashed the (McGregor/ Mayweather fight) should apologize. It was competitive.</p>— George Foreman (@GeorgeForeman) <a href="https://twitter.com/GeorgeForeman/status/901688038622932992">27 August 2017</a></blockquote>
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Big George enjoyed the fight and Tyson changed his tune as well, as fans we can be really obnoxious at times but when students of the game give credit where due it should at the very least indicate that our criticisms can be overly harsh and out of touch.

Punch drunk students?

Mate the fight was slow paced and the moment Money realised McGregor had no power he just gave up on his fundamentals and walked forward.

It was always going to go in to the later rounds. I'm just surprised that so many fans couldn't see it coming from a mile off.

Some pundits will always support it due to vested interests.

 

[IMMY69]

A number of reports have indicated that the PPV buyrate is set to break Manny/Floyd record of 4.6 million buys, they have forecasted around 5 million PPV buys as it stands and that number could potentially increase, and Dana White has given an unofficial number; an astonishing 6.5 million PPV buys! if that is confirmed it would be absolutely incredible, unreal. They have broken the live gate already that was confirmed at 80 million, 10 more then then the Manny/Floyd fight. But 6.5 million PPV buys ! if true would have exceeded all expectations

I rest my case

 

[shaz619]

It was a once in a life time spectacle which captured the public's imagination so the PPV number in a way is not surprising, never before have you had the best in boxing vs the best in MMA regardless of whether or not it was in the Octagon or Squared Circle

 

[shaz619]

Punch drunk students?

Mate the fight was slow paced and the moment Money realised McGregor had no power he just gave up on his fundamentals and walked forward.

It was always going to go in to the later rounds. I'm just surprised that so many fans couldn't see it coming from a mile off.

Some pundits will always support it due to vested interests.

That's a massive insult to George and Tyson, they know a thing or two about the sport of Boxing. Obnoxious fans are clueless and inept beyond even the casuals who purchased the event which is why they can't comprehend what it means to go 10 rounds in a fighters debut let alone against Floyd

 

[shaz619]

Am not sure certain folk have quiet grasped the simple appeal of the event, regardless of the expetected outcome or level of competitiveness what captured the public's imagination was the best in boxing vs the best in MMA for the very first time in history, it was a once in a life time spectacle; that was the main draw beyond the personalities as well. And overall both sports got exposure, am a bigger fan of Boxing and I say we've not been hurt by this fight

 

[shaz619]

I don't like these casuals either and you know how much I dislike Matchroom and Eddie but at the end of the day he has boosted the sport in the UK, the truth is that casuals have historically driven the business and while Floyd/Conor was a farce from the POV of us purists it captured the imagination of the public, we no longer have a Nas, Tyson or Ali; Floyd/Oscar have retired and Manny will be gone soon to. During this whole promotion our sport has been given exposure and the likes of GGG/Canelo have been discussed as well, keeping our sport in the limelight is a boost moving forward.

Ads may have driven the business in the past but with so many platforms PPV is necessary in this market to make something substantial and fighters need to get paid well. Tbh a lot of fights in recent times have been on FTA ! Lomachenko's recent fight was on ESPN, so was Crawford's unification was on FTA as well; Top Rank and ESPN have signed a lucrative deal to show many fights on FTA, CBS, PBC and Showtime have also followed in their footsteps; Thurman/Garcia was on FTA as well, admittedly all these contests on FTA have done very well in terms of viewership but PPV is also needed to elevate Boxing when the UFC cross 1 million PPV buys 6 times in 2016 alone!

Yeah I didn't pay for it either am going to pay £12 for GGG v Canelo online stream it's going to be on Boxnation

Here are some stats to support my earlier post:

Everyone had an opinion on the fight but Boxing desperately needed a turbo charged boost when it came to the PPV market, the sport has as a result received mainstream exposure and we can now build on this platform with GGG/Canelo and continue the momentum in order to ensure a better PPV average in 2018

 

[IMMY69]

That's a massive insult to George and Tyson, they know a thing or two about the sport of Boxing. Obnoxious fans are clueless and inept beyond even the casuals who purchased the event which is why they can't comprehend what it means to go 10 rounds in a fighters debut let alone against Floyd

Firstly, by referring to me as an obnoxious fan you are not doing yourself any favours. Here's a bloke whose been watching boxing matches for the best part of 30 odd years and whilst being just a novice can still appreciate the sport. So if you don't want me to contribute on boxing threads then please carry on as you are.

My opinion is that when big money comes in to play the promoters and ppv tv has a big say on how things go.
That is the cynic in me. Watching some of the fight in youtube only affirmed my belief. The fight was a farce and does nothing for the sport of boxing.

 

[shaz619]

Firstly, by referring to me as an obnoxious fan you are not doing yourself any favours. Here's a bloke whose been watching boxing matches for the best part of 30 odd years and whilst being just a novice can still appreciate the sport. So if you don't want me to contribute on boxing threads then please carry on as you are.

My opinion is that when big money comes in to play the promoters and ppv tv has a big say on how things go.
That is the cynic in me. Watching some of the fight in youtube only affirmed my belief. The fight was a farce and does nothing for the sport of boxing.

I have as much of a right to be obnoxious but am not looking at the event with a narrow minded perspective. Well for someone who has been watching the sport for a very long time you're extremely disrespectful towards legends like George and Tyson, you're obviously entitled to your opinion but I think with them being experts their POV ought to hold more weight and you're clearly wrong that the event does nothing for the sport unless you blindly ignored my post on the awful numbers boxing has been doing lately when it comes to PPV.

 

[shaz619]

And it's a big conspiracy theory to suggest that the fight itself was scripted And am not sure if folk who watched the fight would be saying that unless they did not understand what was doing on from a technical POV. Maybe that makes more sense for them then Conor legit going 10 rounds due to his fighting IQ (which explains why he has had success in the UFC to being a fighter who's style revolves around striking standing up), toughness and athleticism ; isn't it more convient to play up that narrative then appreciate that he was stepping inside Floyd at times given his quicker feet , was the skill he displayed individually scripted to ? Sure there were technical flaws when it came to his punching technique but he had a good jab and moved quiet well.

 

[shaz619]

Conor McGregor has suggested Floyd Mayweather has the skills to transition into MMA.

http://www.skysports.com/mayweather-vs-mcgregor/news/35588/11013514/1

UFC champion McGregor was beaten in the 10th round of his boxing debut by Mayweather last weekend in Las Vegas and has now paid tribute to his conqueror.

"I always told him he was not a fighter but a boxer," McGregor posted on Instagram. "But sharing the ring with him he is certainly a solid fighter.

"Strong in the clinch. Great understanding of frames and head position. He has some very strong tools he could bring into an MMA game for sure.

"Very experienced and methodical in his work. I wish him well in retirement. He is a heck of a boxer. His experience, his patience and his endurance won him this fight hands down."

Mayweather insisted his 50th consecutive win will definitely be his last, while McGregor remains the UFC lightweight champion.

 

[shaz619]

The stylistically defensive oriented Floyd from 2008-2015 could certainly have some success potentially in the Octagon, not necessarily suggesting he would win but vs the right opponent preferably an MMA artist who naturally comes forward he could do well troubling his opponent with his fast feet and evasiveness. Holly Holms the greatest female boxer ever who transitioned to the sport did just that against Ronda Rousey to claim to the UFC bantaweight world title. I think Floyd is probably among a few names whom I could see becoming world champion in the UFC if he had jumped ship and dedicated to MMA training for 1-2 years before getting some experience prior to a world title fight.

 

[shaz619]

Conor's full statement from Instagram on the fight:

"

Just coming back around after a whirlwind couple of days. Thank you to all the fans for the support of the fight and the event! Without your support we as fighters are nothing so I thank you all! Thank you to my team of coaches and training partners! I had an amazing team and It truly was an amazing and enjoyable camp, and honestly I feel with just a little change in certain areas of the prep, we could have built the engine for 12 full rounds under stress, and got the better result on the night.

Getting to 12 rounds alone in practice was always the challenge in this camp. We started slowly getting to the 12 and decreasing the stress in the rounds the closer it got to 12. I think for the time we had, 10 weeks in camp, it had to be done this way. If I began with a loaded 12 rounds under much stress I would have only hit a brick wall and lost progress as a result and potentially not made the fight.

A little more time and we could have made the 12 cleanly, while under more stress, and made it thru the later rounds in the actual fight. I feel every decision we made at each given time was the correct decision, and I am proud of everyone of my team for what we done in the short time that we done it. 30 minutes was the longest I have fought in a ring or cage or anywhere. Surpassing my previous time of 25 minutes. I am happy for the experience and happy to take all these great lessons with me and implement them into my camp going forward.

Another day another lesson! Congrats to Floyd on a well fought match. Very experienced and methodical in his work. I wish him well in retirement. He is a heck of a boxer. His experience, his patience and his endurance won him this fight hands down. I always told him he was not a fighter but a boxer. But sharing the ring with him he is certainly a solid fighter. Strong in the clinch. Great understanding of frames and head position. He has some very strong tools he could bring into an MMA game for sure. Here is a toast of whiskey to everyone involved in this event and everyone who enjoyed it! Thank you to you all! Onto the next one!

"

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Let me know when he's ready to return to the UFC. Otherwise not interested in his boxing career which will never go anywhere regardless of his payday here.

 

[shaz619]

Let me know when he's ready to return to the UFC. Otherwise not interested in his boxing career which will never go anywhere regardless of his payday here.

Chael Sonnen is reporting that he could face Diaz in december for a third time, its likely because in 2017 UFC need to close the year with a big ppv bump they've not had as strong a year as 2016. The weight is interesting, wonder if Conor will move up again