Revamp of the two new balls rule in ODIs

[JoniInsafian]

As mentionned in the Riaz thread, the two new balls rule has had the effect of further increasing the gap between bat and ball. While it is true that it favours the fielding side in early overs if they have the fast bowlers to take advantage of it, it is a bane for spinners and fast bowling sides relying on reverse swing. As the overs go on, the ball just ceases to move yet retains the hardness to be spanked on all sides of the ground. Add to this fielding restrictions and the first ten overs powerplay (which offsets the two new balls in the start of the game) and you have a completely unbalanced games. This may favour some teams (cough...India...cough) but doesn't make for a good viewing experience. Teams should have the option of whether they want to use two new balls or one new ball only. This would add an element of strategy to the game but also obviously give an advantage to the fielding side.
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[Savak]

This will make a tremendous difference to the Pakistani pace bowling unit. It might even revive guls career

 

[amomin]

5 fielders inside at all times is a dumb rule as well.

 

[ahanank]

A pretty interesting suggestion.
But I'm afraid, BIG 3 won't be convinced.
They get more publicity and huge masses when there are boundaries hit and records broken in terms of batting. Revenue comes from the crowd. Crowd like fireworks.
Simple as that.
Have you ever wondered how many controversies Afridi has gone through and is still in the game (ball biting,destroying the pitch, hitting someone etc?
If it were Ehsan Adil or anyone less famous..he would have been banned for some time or worse.
Afridi is an entertainer...Crowd likes him to hit sixes and all.
That's just one example..I'm sure there are plenty others.
Two-new ball rule does that exactly. Gives an edge to the batsmen to free their arms and for the boards to fill up their pockets.

 

[shane]

Didnt they used to change the ball around the 34th over anyway?

 

[Electron]

A pretty interesting suggestion.
But I'm afraid, BIG 3 won't be convinced.

Didn't BCCI vote against the two ball rule?

 

[ahanank]

Didn't BCCI vote against the two ball rule?

Tomato, Tomahto.
ICC/BCCI
It's all about the money.

 

[Electron]

Tomato, Tomahto.
ICC/BCCI
It's all about the money.

Again, answer me, why did BCCI vote against the rule? Also, why would they even support a rule that takes away India's ONLY bowling strength?

 

[ahanank]

Again, answer me, why did BCCI vote against the rule? Also, why would they even support a rule that takes away India's ONLY bowling strength?

You must be kidding.
That was India's bowling strength?
I thought you guys bowled well last night..lmao
WoW.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

You must be kidding.
That was India's bowling strength?
I thought you guys bowled well last night..lmao
WoW.

Shami is a good reverse swing bowler.

 

[ahanank]

Shami is a good reverse swing bowler.

Really?
I thought he bowled way better last night. Took 4 wickets too, i guess.
But overall, when we had gul, wahab..they used to do that on a regular basis.

 

[Electron]

You must be kidding.
That was India's bowling strength?
I thought you guys bowled well last night..lmao
WoW.

Shami, Zaheer and Umesh are all at their best with reverse.

Asking you for the 3rd time now. If Bcci is behind the two ball rule, then why would they vote against it ?

 

[ahanank]

Shami, Zaheer and Umesh are all at their best with reverse.

Asking you for the 3rd time now. If Bcci is behind the two ball rule, then why would they vote against it ?

Honestly, no idea. That's weird though.
Why would they be in favor and vote against it at the same time?
I mean, it's not hidden anymore that BCCI has control over pretty much everything when it comes to implementing rules now a days.

 

[Bilal7]

I feel that they should let the bowling side decide if they want to use two new balls or just the one. That will help the bowlers immensely by allowing them to use swing, seam ad bounce where it is available by having two cherries and if there is none, then they can go with one ball and utilize reverse swing and give their spinners more turn to play with.

This, extended the boundary ropes and tweaking the powerplay rules will help the game get back into balance.

 

[Laal]

Why not give it a choice to the bowling team? The rule was intended to shore-up the bowling but it could be argued it has done the exact opposite.

 

[Electron]

Honestly, no idea. That's weird though.
Why would they be in favor and vote against it at the same time?
I mean, it's not hidden anymore that BCCI has control over pretty much everything when it comes to implementing rules now a days.

Big3 sounds like one name, but conflict of interest exists between the three boards. There is no way BCCI was going to support 2-ball rule. All the countries voted, and two-ball rule got through because majority of the countries wanted it.

Our Asian block tried it's best to oppose it.

 

[JoniInsafian]

BCCI didn't support 2 new ball.....

 

[Savak]

If Pakistan can get the reverse swing back in ODI cricket it will change their fortunes big time. Umar Gul and Wahab Riaz are completely different bowlers when the ball is reversing for them.

 

[Sidilicious]

Honestly, no idea. That's weird though.
Why would they be in favor and vote against it at the same time?
I mean, it's not hidden anymore that BCCI has control over pretty much everything when it comes to implementing rules now a days.

You are also forgetting India's other strength, spin. With an older ball Jadeja and Ashwin become more effective.

 

[RehanG]

2 new ball rules was made because of change of color of the ball after 20-30 overs, that's why we had for very long change of ball after 35 overs, only solution for this is to change the color of the ball PINK! or YELLOW?

 

[ahanank]

Big3 sounds like one name, but conflict of interest exists between the three boards. There is no way BCCI was going to support 2-ball rule. All the countries voted, and two-ball rule got through because majority of the countries wanted it.

Our Asian block tried it's best to oppose it.

I take my statement back, partially.
I think if you have quality bowlers, it shouldn't even matter how the pitch is or what the restrictions are, they will take wickets for you.

 

[ethan hunt]

Get rid of this stupid rule already.
They are looking at the size of the bats when this rule has hurt the bowlers just as much if not more . Really hurts the spinners in the middle overs and fast bowlers with the lack of reverse swing.
Has hurt pakistan's brand of cricket massively .

 

[Boi]

How can they still not be able to make a white cricket ball that can last 50 overs? With all the technological advances in bat manufacturing you'd think someone would be able to get a cricket ball right but no, we're stuck with this stupid 2 new ball rule.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

If they're gonna use two new balls, at least add an extra layer of lacquer so they swing upfront. They swing for 3-4 overs each, sometimes not even that. Especially in Asia and Windies where the ball gets roughed up easily.

 

[Sidilicious]

Get rid of this stupid rule already.
They are looking at the size of the bats when this rule has hurt the bowlers just as much if not more . Really hurts the spinners in the middle overs and fast bowlers with the lack of reverse swing.
Has hurt pakistan's brand of cricket massively .

As much as I dislike the 2 new ball rule, saying that 2 new ball rule has hurt Pakistan is being extremely disingenuous. Pakistan's band has been hurt because
1. They play 90s cricket
2. They don't have any great bowlers anymore
3. Players like Afridi are given super star status

 

[JibranAnsari]

Why not find a couple of bowlers who can actually swing the ball? Tbh , no one likes to watch games where 250 is considered enough especially the newer generation who have grown up watching t20 cricket.

 

[Bilal7]

Why not find a couple of bowlers who can actually swing the ball? Tbh , no one likes to watch games where 250 is considered enough especially the newer generation who have grown up watching t20 cricket.

On the contrary actually. You ask most people here and they'd say they would prefer watching a close contest between bat and ball rather than a boundary-fest with FTBs like Warner and Rohit looking like kings.