Right for some Pakistan players to prefer BPL over National T20?

[MenInG]

Some big names playing in BPL but does that make a mockery of our domestic tournaments? or is it providing an opportunity for other fringe players to make a mark?

 

[Syed1]

I think it is better if some of the elite players are not participating since it is letting the youngsters a chance to get into the playing eleven, otherwise they would be warming the bench if everybody was available.

 

[babajee]

Can’t blame them... they are earning much more playing in the BPL.

Also it’s good for them to rub shoulders with some top T20 players

 

[sshakir411]

When players were given an NOC from the PCB they essentially were allowed to decided which tournament they'd like to play in. I don't think any player would have gone for the BPL had PCB stressed the importance of National T20. Any human will obviously pick what pays them more if given the choice..would be illogical to blame players for playing BPL over the domestic cup. BPL also provides more exposure and more competitive cricket.

 

[MMHS]

When players were given an NOC from the PCB they essentially were allowed to decided which tournament they'd like to play in. I don't think any player would have gone for the BPL had PCB stressed the importance of National T20. Any human will obviously pick what pays them more if given the choice..would be illogical to blame players for playing BPL over the domestic cup. BPL also provides more exposure and more competitive cricket.

You are 180 degree wrong here. Let me tell you what is the real story........

As usual, PCB sold their buff too much for their pocket size (and their brain size as well) and blocked players for BPL (don't take BPL as special because of my flag, take for any other such leagues - just that the path cuts with BPL) and Nazam Sethi sold that in multi-fold - BCCI doesn't allow their player, so do we ........ Now the problem is, PAK's national players have screwed them at the right time - if you notice, it's those players who doesn't need doing dirty things with PCB to get in to the team (read other way - if Babar, Amir, Hasan, Malik .... are dropped on so called disciplinary ACTION, people might snatch the chair from below PCB) - so, from no where, at the business end of National T20, suddenly PCB felt that those players should be released, ta ke youngsters ko thora exposure milay.......

Sarfu is National Captain for 3 formats, so he has something PCB can snatch from him - bechara Karachi Whites ke saath faas gaya ...... This is only because in PAK, people like Misbah and Afridi are still looking for a PSL contract for some pats on their backside, instead of forming a Players' Union, which should protect the genuine rights of the players and also can be PCB's watch dog, ta ke Sharjeel Khans don't end at some other type of courts - I am sure even Rewanda football league has one such.

There was absolutely no need for this - first, players are screwed because the tournament is shifted from original date, then they are forced to play for an amount worth less than a single over in any PLs & SLs (again, don't go to measure BPL's pocket for my flag). Those contract & NOC doesn't work in straight line - PAK doesn't have a domestic calendar - BUT PLAYERS ARE OBLIGED TO PARTICIPATE IN DOMESTICS, so BPL owners have told PAK players that next year they'll think twice before hiring PAK players if this goes on ... with a smile of course, they are much more polished than MMHS. Besides, BPL contract is now at Pay as you play - basically, they can book every PAK player at draft and then don't call them in tournament......

 

[CricFan2012]

I think it is better if some of the elite players are not participating since it is letting the youngsters a chance to get into the playing eleven, otherwise they would be warming the bench if everybody was available.

This, and let these guys make money, they won't be making this much after they retire

 

[aloo paratha]

I think it's fine since all these guys are already established players.

 

[giri26]

I think it is fine. Players are trying to make some money and BPL offers them more than the National T20. If they are missing national commitments to play in the leagues, then you can question.

 

[MenInG]

There is value to the Nat T20 which is derived fromr big names. If they only appear for PSL then this is nothing more than a low level local tournament. Must be very dispiriting for the newer players.

 

[gazza619]

PCB should have ensured they will played in the domestic T20. They are already making enough money. Their participation would have helped the youngsters.

 

[last_knight]

PCB should have ensured they will played in the domestic T20. They are already making enough money. Their participation would have helped the youngsters.

Its not always about making money. You need to continue competing at higher levels and its good if your Top-15 players play across different leagues.

Secondly, best format where participation of seniors will help youngsters is FC. Let them play across PLs, SLs and ensure their availability/participation in atleast 30% matches of FC.

 

[Executioner]

From a neutral perspective I think the right decision was made. I don't think it's just about the money or exposure or the quality.

In BPL they are being treated quite well, being in 5 star hotels and their names chanted by foreign crowds. It's a surreal feeling.

Babar
Malik
Afridi
Misbah
Hasan
Amir
Junaid
Fakhar
Irfan - spinner

Are the only ones in BPL. That's not too many

 

[MRSN]

PCB should have ensured they will played in the domestic T20. They are already making enough money. Their participation would have helped the youngsters.

To be honest PCB can't reject NOCs..Because then BCB would do the same for PSL. We do have few BD players playing in PSL as well.

Secondly Pakistani players don't make enough money compared to other foreign players. So you don't want to rob them off from such an opportunity to increase their bank balance. It also keeps players away from thoughts of making money through 'other means'.

And lastly it gives our players good exposure to play in such a league. It has more quality. Our players would comeback with much needed experience to try out new things that they don't get chance at international stage. This is the key reason why I think our players must play every league. Look at Malik. He is much much improved player than we used to know him. It's all because he has been playing all these leagues. Our players already miss IPL so you don't want them to miss facing foreign players in leagues by blocking NOC's.

PCB could have done the things right way and schedule it much better but that needs planning and people running our domestic cricket do not have enough time to plan.

 

[MMHS]

To be honest PCB can't reject NOCs..Because then BCB would do the same for PSL. We do have few BD players playing in PSL as well.

Secondly Pakistani players don't make enough money compared to other foreign players. So you don't want to rob them off from such an opportunity to increase their bank balance. It also keeps players away from thoughts of making money through 'other means'.

And lastly it gives our players good exposure to play in such a league. It has more quality. Our players would comeback with much needed experience to try out new things that they don't get chance at international stage. This is the key reason why I think our players must play every league. Look at Malik. He is much much improved player than we used to know him. It's all because he has been playing all these leagues. Our players already miss IPL so you don't want them to miss facing foreign players in leagues by blocking NOC's.

PCB could have done the things right way and schedule it much better but that needs planning and people running our domestic cricket do not have enough time to plan.

PCB gives a damn ..... on what players are earning or what would be the consequences of blocking them from BPL - you need minimum brain cell for evaluating that.

What has happened is that top PAK players (who are paid even about $23-$25,000/match at BPL) have expressed their dissatisfaction & left NCT20 for BPL on their own & PCB can't do anything against them.
Otherwise, you would have read about replacements - players leaving midway of a tournament in not new, but this silence is disturbing - as if Babar, Malik, Hasan, Amir didn't even exist.

Public can be managed by pet media & paid police, but if Amir, Hasan, Babar, Malik .... are dropped for violating NOC - even half of PAK would stop watching PAK's match - so sponsors have told PCB ....... "Behave, or you won't have money to buy cream for your coffee". So, it ended up like this. MoHa has got his tail stuck in another trap, so he has become patriotic again, warna ...

If things were so simple like youngster's exposure at national cup, players' high earning opportunity, BPL exposure with International stars ....... a simple press release was enough to inform that PCB has decided to release their top players for BPL & that's perfectly acceptable. You can't even realize how bitter pill is swallowed by PCB behind doors .......... but I am sure similar goof-ups'll happen next year as well in another form, because you need some brain cells even to remember the bitter taste........

 

[MRSN]

PCB gives a damn ..... on what players are earning or what would be the consequences of blocking them from BPL - you need minimum brain cell for evaluating that.

What has happened is that top PAK players (who are paid even about $23-$25,000/match at BPL) have expressed their dissatisfaction & left NCT20 for BPL on their own & PCB can't do anything against them.
Otherwise, you would have read about replacements - players leaving midway of a tournament in not new, but this silence is disturbing - as if Babar, Malik, Hasan, Amir didn't even exist.

Public can be managed by pet media & paid police, but if Amir, Hasan, Babar, Malik .... are dropped for violating NOC - even half of PAK would stop watching PAK's match - so sponsors have told PCB ....... "Behave, or you won't have money to buy cream for your coffee". So, it ended up like this. MoHa has got his tail stuck in another trap, so he has become patriotic again, warna ...

If things were so simple like youngster's exposure at national cup, players' high earning opportunity, BPL exposure with International stars ....... a simple press release was enough to inform that PCB has decided to release their top players for BPL & that's perfectly acceptable. You can't even realize how bitter pill is swallowed by PCB behind doors .......... but I am sure similar goof-ups'll happen next year as well in another form, because you need some brain cells even to remember the bitter taste........

The state of Pakistan's domestic cricket is really pathetic. Uneven pitches, matches being reduced to 60 overs(fc), pathetic telecast and announcing fixtures week before tournament which also clash with BPL.

I totally agree with those players that left for BPL. They would learn more than playing substandard T20 tournament. Our national T20 tournament used to be one of the most quality T20 tournament in the world(fbt20) but now it just looks really ordinary.

I don't think money is being spent on domestic cricket to improve our system. If you look at our juniors against Afghanistan who don't even have a system, it was just really eye opener. Also our national team performance against this Sri Lankan team who has been struggling against all other teams to earn a win but they white washed us in our own favorite venue. This is why I feel CT win would do Pakistan more damage than good. The mediocre players in our team as well as in PCB would continue to survive after this win which was more to do with the brilliance of some individuals players.

Why do you think Pak's shameful defeats against Afghanistan haven't been much of discussion anywhere?

 

[Hermoine Green]

Definitely right, allow youngsters to play National T20 tournaments so that we me arrange a good crop for our future. It would allow us to manage a good bench strength also.

And it is a good chance for some potentially good players who are out of form, can regain their form again and may serve national team.

 

[hadi123]

I would have stayed and played in the National T20 Cup as BPL isn't exactly a great tournament and the conditions are similar anyway. However, I would prefer T20 Blast / CPL over National T20 because they are higher quality tournaments and the conditions will be different for the players, hence I was annoyed back in August when the players had to return for the National T20 Cup that then got postponed. But I don't think it matters that much anyway as it is allowing some younger players to play in National T20 Cup.

 

[MMHS]

The state of Pakistan's domestic cricket is really pathetic. Uneven pitches, matches being reduced to 60 overs(fc), pathetic telecast and announcing fixtures week before tournament which also clash with BPL.

I totally agree with those players that left for BPL. They would learn more than playing substandard T20 tournament. Our national T20 tournament used to be one of the most quality T20 tournament in the world(fbt20) but now it just looks really ordinary.

I don't think money is being spent on domestic cricket to improve our system. If you look at our juniors against Afghanistan who don't even have a system, it was just really eye opener. Also our national team performance against this Sri Lankan team who has been struggling against all other teams to earn a win but they white washed us in our own favorite venue. This is why I feel CT win would do Pakistan more damage than good. The mediocre players in our team as well as in PCB would continue to survive after this win which was more to do with the brilliance of some individuals players.

Why do you think Pak's shameful defeats against Afghanistan haven't been much of discussion anywhere?

Results in U19 doesn't reflect everything, and often these results/performances are misleading because of age cheating. Besides, from one such U19 tournament, even if you get couple of potential players, it's more than enough. What is more important is that how many of these potentials are making the squad in next 2 years (I take WC to WC as a cycle), so that teams' average age remains preferably similar all through and definitely closer to 25 rather than 35. In that regard, Taha, Ruhail, Shaeen & Riaz are good find and the U19 Asia Cup can be a success - but, more than the performance in Finals, it'll be bigger shame if these guys need to wait till 2027 for their next step - PAK A.

Regarding discussion on performance, I can't say much about other platforms, but in PP I guess I can understand the silence - that day I had to watch the game silently, because usual cheerleaders went too vocal on Athar & Indian commentators more than PAK's performance; therefore this game being a great equalizer, after the match, I am posting here but there are not too many left to roll the dice from other half ......

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Pakistani players are superstars in Bangladesh.

 

[MenInG]

Not enough crowds - they will only come when big names play.

 

[Saj]

Can't blame the players, it's the PCB's fault for organising the National T20 Cup and QEA Trophy and at the same time giving players NOCs for BPL and the T10 tournament.

Ridiculous planning.

 

[babajee]

Can't blame the players, it's the PCB's fault for organising the National T20 Cup and QEA Trophy and at the same time giving players NOCs for BPL and the T10 tournament.

Ridiculous planning.

Can’t you tell someone in the PCB?

 

[pkwdpassion]

Firstly thanks to the BPL for taking Misbah out of Faisalabad team, this is my favorite team in National T20 Cup. If Misbah stayed on, I doubt we would've enjoyed the Faisalabad team's cricket, also thanks for taking out Babar Azam and Shoaib Mali. Imad Wasim got injured, was replaced by Saad Ali and we get to see Rohail Nazir also.
Really wish BPL took Akmals, Wahab and Hafeez also it would've been a great tournament for me.

If PCB wants, they can block NOCs and Pakistani players won't feature in BPL. Players would take this on their chin and not complain publicly.
Sarfaraz, Shadab Khan, Yasir Shah , Raza Ali Dar, Rumman Raees and Fahim Ashraf did'nt go. Shadab Khan and Yasir Shah are going to Australia for BBL, many more would join them also, there is no big deal for them missing out on BPL.

Unfortunately at present this is actually the ideal situation for the viewers like me, National T20 mite be awful on fielding standards but its been a great entertaining show with both the bowl and the bat like today.

I get to see my favorites Sarfaraz, Rumman, Shadab, Fahim Ashraf playing better standard of cricket at home and thanks to BPL, we get to see more talented [even better] players like Ali Shafiq, Agha Salman, Rohail, Nasir Nawaz, Saad Nasim, Farhan, Faizan, Imran Khalid, Bismillah replacing players we don't get to see like Misbah, Shoaib Malik, etc..

I can't even express how grateful I feel for BPL to do this for Pakistani fans.

 

[Saj]

Can’t you tell someone in the PCB?

All they are bothered about is PSL, the golden goose that lays golden eggs for them.

 

[Executioner]

Firstly thanks to the BPL for taking Misbah out of Faisalabad team, this is my favorite team in National T20 Cup. If Misbah stayed on, I doubt we would've enjoyed the Faisalabad team's cricket, also thanks for taking out Babar Azam and Shoaib Mali. Imad Wasim got injured, was replaced by Saad Ali and we get to see Rohail Nazir also.
Really wish BPL took Akmals, Wahab and Hafeez also it would've been a great tournament for me.

If PCB wants, they can block NOCs and Pakistani players won't feature in BPL. Players would take this on their chin and not complain publicly.
Sarfaraz, Shadab Khan, Yasir Shah , Raza Ali Dar, Rumman Raees and Fahim Ashraf did'nt go. Shadab Khan and Yasir Shah are going to Australia for BBL, many more would join them also, there is no big deal for them missing out on BPL.

Unfortunately at present this is actually the ideal situation for the viewers like me, National T20 mite be awful on fielding standards but its been a great entertaining show with both the bowl and the bat like today.

I get to see my favorites Sarfaraz, Rumman, Shadab, Fahim Ashraf playing better standard of cricket at home and thanks to BPL, we get to see more talented [even better] players like Ali Shafiq, Agha Salman, Rohail, Nasir Nawaz, Saad Nasim, Farhan, Faizan, Imran Khalid, Bismillah replacing players we don't get to see like Misbah, Shoaib Malik, etc..

I can't even express how grateful I feel for BPL to do this for Pakistani fans.

So you don't enjoy Afridi Malik Hassan Amir Junaid Babar Fakhar?