Rishabh Pant v Babar Azam in Tests

[kumjsr]

Babar Azam
Matches: 44
Runs: 3368
HS: 196
Average: 47.68
100s: 8
50s: 24

Home
Matches: 10
Runs: 1133
HS: 196
Avg: 75.53
100s: 5

Away
Matches: 26
Runs: 1678
HS: 119
Avg: 39.95
100s: 2

Neutral
Matches: 8
Runs: 527
HS: 127*
Avg: 40.53
100s: 1

Rishabh Pant
Matches: 31
Runs: 2123
HS: 159*
Avg: 43.32
100s: 5
50s: 10

Home
Matches: 8
Runs: 639
HS: 101
Avg: 63.90
100s: 1

Away
Matches: 22
Runs: 1439
HS: 159*
Avg: 38.89
100s: 4

Neutral
Matches: 1
Runs:45
HS: 41
Avg: 22.50

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[jiduguravindra]

Obviously babar is better bat but as of now pant had made higher impact.

 

[kumjsr]

Oh no, not this again

Babar Azam had scored 2167 runs his 31 tests at avg of 44 with 5 centuries.

 

[dravidthewall]

Gabaa innings of pant already left behind many batsman of Asia . Only kushal Parera innings against south africa come close to him.

 

[IAJ]

Not comparing them at all, but atm Babar looks like a certified bottler. Whenever I have seen team needing him, he disappoints.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Pant won away/SENA matches single handedly.
Babar never won a single match in SENA.

Pant never played a statpad innings in test cricket where as Babar is pretty good on flat pitches.

Impact wise pant is miles away atm.

 

[NishanKonar]

Babar Azam is good batter in tests but he has NOT scored runs in SENA - which is the litmus test for subcontinental batters. SO next 5 years he has good opportunity to do that

Rishab Pant has already played some stunners in SENA

 

[DRsohail]

Babar is a bottler.

 

[Mamoon]

If you want a player who will be more consistent but score soft runs & disappear under pressure, Babar is your man.

If you want a player who will not always score consistently but win you Test matches out of nowhere, Pant is your man.
[MENTION=43051]Mobashir[/MENTION] what do you think?

 

[Devadwal]

Ppant is a impact player whenever he scored most of time indian team winning . Pant the test player is way better than pant the LOI player .

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Babar Azam is good batter in tests but he has NOT scored runs in SENA - which is the litmus test for subcontinental batters. SO next 5 years he has good opportunity to do that

Rishab Pant has already played some stunners in SENA

Yeah he has not scored runs in SENA. Bas muh utha ke bol do jo bolna hai.

Babar's average in SENA countries:

Australia
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Matches played: 5
Average: 27.80

England
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Matches played: 4
Average: 65.75

New Zealand
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Matches played: 2
Average: 47.33

SouthAfrica
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Matches played: 3
Average: 36.83

Babar has only played 14 tests in SENA. It is not his fault that his board fails to organise tours to SENA countries frequently.

Pant's average in SENA countries:

Australia
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Matches played: 7
Average: 62.40

England
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Matches played: 8
Average: 34

New Zealand
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Matches played: 2
Average: 15

SouthAfrica
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Matches played: 3
Average: 37.20

Pant has played 20 matches already in SENA compared to 14

Virat's stats in SENA:

Australia
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Matches played: 13
Average: 54

England
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Matches played: 15
Average: 33.65

New Zealand
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Matches played: 4
Average: 36

SouthAfrica
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Matches played: 7
Average: 51.35

Virat has consistently toured England yet his record in England is average. Babar doesn't get these many matches so how will he improve his stats in SENA? For some Indian fans, only performances in Australia matter and also SENA means Australia to them. They keep talking about SENA this, SENA that but only give weightage to performances in Australia because that is what suits their agenda.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

In terms of Impact Babar is not good enough to tie Pant's shoelaces in test cricket.

Most people will take Pant over Babar in test cricket without second thought.
You get a wicketkeeper and a impactful batsman.

Babars runs in Sena have all been soft, not even a single innings to remember.

His performance in last tour to England was the epitome of soft runs scoring.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Babar Azam is good batter in tests but he has NOT scored runs in SENA

Change this to meaningful runs if you wanna silent the

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Just like Sachin was compared to every Tom, Dick and Harry in his playing days, fans are comparing Babar with Tom, Dick and Harilals of this era.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

In terms of Impact Babar is not good enough to tie Pant's shoelaces in test cricket.

Most people will take Pant over Babar in test cricket without second thought.
You get a wicketkeeper and a impactful batsman.

Babars runs in Sena have all been soft, not even a single innings to remember.

His performance in last tour to England was the epitome of soft runs scoring.

Can Pant tie his own shoelaces these days lol?

Babar is yet to reach his peak. It seems the embarrassment you got in the last couple of weeks wasn't good enough? Did you like the double hundred by Kishan yesterday? Is he also unlucky to born in the Pant era or is it the other way around?

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think we shouldn't under-estimate home runs either. Clutch knock especially. Root, Bairstow runs recently are highly clutch knocks even though it is only at home.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Can Pant tie his own shoelaces these days lol?

Babar is yet to reach his peak. It seems the embarrassment you got in the last couple of weeks wasn't good enough? Did you like the double hundred by Kishan yesterday? Is he also unlucky to born in the Pant era or is it the other way around?

This thread is about test cricket and you are trying to deviate the topic.

Pant already played couple of winning knocks in SENA and has more Tons than Babar.

Yeah.. Babar yet to reach his peak.
Yet to.. Yet to.. Yet to... Listening since last five years. Fact is Babar can't win matches against quality bowling attacks unlike Pant.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

This thread is about test cricket and you are trying to deviate the topic.

Pant already played couple of winning knocks in SENA and has more Tons than Babar.

Yeah.. Babar yet to reach his peak.
Yet to.. Yet to.. Yet to... Listening since last five years. Fact is Babar can't win matches against quality bowling attacks unlike Pant.

Babar is yet to reach his peak but Pant is already 32 year old and he will never reach his peak again.
Why are you even bothering to reply?

 

[Sidilicious]

Can Pant tie his own shoelaces these days lol?

Babar is yet to reach his peak. It seems the embarrassment you got in the last couple of weeks wasn't good enough? Did you like the double hundred by Kishan yesterday? Is he also unlucky to born in the Pant era or is it the other way around?

When Babar will reach his peak, then he can be the best test bat. But from the current career of both these batsmen, pant has outplayed Babar in tests.

 

[Msd_7]

Babar is yet to reach his peak and he is in the league of sachin. ROFL

 

[NishanKonar]

Change this to meaningful runs if you wanna silent the

BVB is on a mission. To prove that Babar is Bradman and Pant is trash

Dont think we can ever silence him anyways

Those who understand cricket will understand the point I am trying to make. Even most Pakistani fans will agree with me

 

[NishanKonar]

When Babar will reach his peak, then he can be the best test bat. But from the current career of both these batsmen, pant has outplayed Babar in tests.

This is the point. even I hope Babar reaches his peak in the next 5 years and scores lots of runs in SENA

But till then you cannot say Babar is better than pant - given Pant's performances till date is better than Babar

 

[jnaveen1980]

Roles are different. Babar has to be consistent as well and also impactful if needed. Pant doesn't have to be consistent. Both are best batsmen for their countries. One is world ranked 4 one is world ranked 5. The reason is his impact is high. Anyway Babar has to reach the level Younis Khan who is Pakistan's gold standard for match winning.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

BVB is on a mission. To prove that Babar is Bradman and Pant is trash

Dont think we can ever silence him anyways

Those who understand cricket will understand the point I am trying to make. Even most Pakistani fans will agree with me

Funny that you are saying this because Mr Jeetesh is the one who is looking on a mission to prove that Babar is trash in every thread and his runs don't even count.

 

[sweep_shot]

I don't think you can compare a keeper to a specialist batter. It is like comparing apple to orange.

Babar obviously averages higher than Pant. Babar is much better in terms of batting.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Pant every time. True champion where as the Teddy bear of Pakistan cricket is too pampered and soft to score the important runs.

Pant has done more in SENA than all Pakistan batsmen in history in reality.

 

[topspin]

Pant every time. True champion where as the Teddy bear of Pakistan cricket is too pampered and soft to score the important runs.

Pant has done more in SENA than all Pakistan batsmen in history in reality.

100% agree with this.

 

[Buffet]

So far what they have done, it has to be Pant.

 

[Ab Fan]

Rishabh Pant comfortably.

It is like comparing Adam Gilchrist to Michael Clarke.

 

[kumjsr]

I don't think you can compare a keeper to a specialist batter. It is like comparing apple to orange.

Babar obviously averages higher than Pant. Babar is much better in terms of batting.

It's a comparison of Pant as batsman with Babar the batsman.

And yes, you can compare two batsmen who are in top 5 of ICC test rankings.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This thread is about test cricket and you are trying to deviate the topic.

Pant already played couple of winning knocks in SENA and has more Tons than Babar.

Yeah.. Babar yet to reach his peak.
Yet to.. Yet to.. Yet to... Listening since last five years. Fact is Babar can't win matches against quality bowling attacks unlike Pant.

I have posted test stats above. Make sure you look at them before blaming me for deviating the topic at hand. Reply to that post.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Babar is yet to reach his peak but Pant is already 32 year old and he will never reach his peak again.
Why are you even bothering to reply?

Pant does look like a 32 year old these days. He should work on his fitness otherwise he is going to struggle in test cricket also. At the moment his spot in the test team is secure.

 

[Sidilicious]

Pant does look like a 32 year old these days. He should work on his fitness otherwise he is going to struggle in test cricket also. At the moment his spot in the test team is secure.

Didn’t realise this thread was about how old someone looks. My understanding was that this thread is about comparing their test batting so far.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Didn’t realise this thread was about how old someone looks. My understanding was that this thread is about comparing their test batting so far.

Babar fans change metrics every second unfortunately their idol fails on all metrics... .

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Didn’t realise this thread was about how old someone looks. My understanding was that this thread is about comparing their test batting so far.

May be you are new to any kind of sport but fitness is part of any sport you can name. You missed that part and only focussed on how someone can talk about his overweight looks.

And I know this thread is about comparing their test batting maybe that is why I posted stats of both these batsmen? Did you also ignore that post just like others did intentionally?

 

[TeamPak95]

Babar has scored 196 vs Australia earlier in the year to save the 2nd test for Pakistan and that is genuinely a great innings and certainly Babar's best in his test career (and overall cricketing career by far). However, apart from that, he hasn't scored anything of note in test cricket to truly call him one to be considered a future test great, be it scoring impactful runs or scoring big, daddy hundreds. He had a chance this test match vs England but failed. Babar's test numbers are better than Pant's but Pant is comfortably the higher impact, clutch player. In tests, it's Pant > Babar right now.

 

[Sachin136]

Babar can play 200 tests but he will never play anything close to the 6 counterattacking innings Pant has played in Australia, England, and South Africa.

 

[PakPremi]

Pant every time. True champion where as the Teddy bear of Pakistan cricket is too pampered and soft to score the important runs.

Pant has done more in SENA than all Pakistan batsmen in history in reality.

So no need for debate then Pants is better then any Pakistani batsmen ever,lets forget the quality of attack compare to yesteryears, and assume only runs in Australia matters. Pant averages are not much to beat drums over for rest of SENA countries.

 

[kumjsr]

Upcoming test matches for Pant
2 away tests v BD
4 home tests v Aus
2 away tests v WI
2 away test v SA

Upcoming test matches for Babar
1 home test v Eng
2 home tests v NZ
2 away tests v SL
3 away test in Aus

Seems like good time for both batsmen to score big and show their brilliance to world cricket.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

For those who are interested in other Babar Azam comparison threads:

Babar Azam vs Lokesh Rahul
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?245267-Babar-Azam-versus-Lokesh-Rahul

Babar Azam vs Virat Kohli
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?300409-The-Babar-Azam-vs-Virat-Kohli-comparison

Babar Azam vs Shreyas Iyer
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-generation-battle-Babar-Azam-vs-Shreyas-Iyer

Babar Azam vs Sanju Samson
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...am-or-Sanju-Samson-Who-is-the-better-prospect

Babar Azam vs Marnus Labuschagne
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?290830-Tests-Marnus-Labuschagne-vs-Babar-Azam

Babar Azam vs Litton Das
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?226622-Babar-Azam-vs-Liton-Das

Babar Azam vs Aiden Markram
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?277404-Babar-Azam-vs-Aiden-Markram

Babar Azam vs Quinton De Kock
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?266775-Quinton-de-Kock-vs-Babar-Azam

Babar Azam vs Shai Hope
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?284621-Babar-Azam-vs-Shai-Hope

Babar Azam vs Mushfiqar Rahim
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?285898-Babar-Azam-vs-Mushfiqur-Rahim-ODI-Format

Babar Azam vs Kusal Mendis
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?269396-Kusal-Mendis-vs-Babar-Azam-Future-superstars

Babar Azam vs Joe Root
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?269868-Joe-Root-vs-Babar-Azam-in-ODIs

Babar Azam vs Umar Akmal
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...Umar-Akmal-vs-Babar-Azam-The-vagary-of-talent


It's ok. You guys can thank me later for putting this list.

 

[Aseem_04]

May be you are new to any kind of sport but fitness is part of any sport you can name. You missed that part and only focussed on how someone can talk about his overweight looks.

And I know this thread is about comparing their test batting maybe that is why I posted stats of both these batsmen? Did you also ignore that post just like others did intentionally?

Don't ever get distracted always back what you feels is right, keep say it with me Babar is the best ,babar is the best.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

So most of the posters on a pakistani forum think Pant is better in tests.
No more validation needed.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Don't ever get distracted always back what you feels is right, keep say it with me Babar is the best ,babar is the best.

Don't quote me if you are going to come with dumb replies like these.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Don't quote me if you are going to come with dumb replies like these.

You have quoted many posts with dumb replies.

Don't dictate the terms on public forum.

 

[PakPremi]

So most of the posters on a pakistani forum think Pant is better in tests.
No more validation needed.

Apart from Australia his averages in SENA are not much to be proud of.

 

[MP2011]

Upcoming test matches for Pant
2 away tests v BD
4 home tests v Aus
2 away tests v WI
2 away test v SA

Why are we visiting SA again? It should have been SA visiting us!

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You have quoted many dumb posts with intelligent replies.

Don't dictate the terms on public forum.

Fixed it for you.

Posters like you and that Aseem guy are only interested in attacking me and do not have guts to counter what I am saying. This thread is a perfect example. You and others are ignoring the stats I posted above and are only indulging in posting dumb comments. What value are you adding to this thread? Nothing. Get away now.

 

[Shafi]

Babar is a serial choker under pressure with limited abilities. Babar is a improved version of impactless Azhar Ali.

 

[NishanKonar]

Funny that you are saying this because Mr Jeetesh is the one who is looking on a mission to prove that Babar is trash in every thread and his runs don't even count.

Actually its not Babar Azam's fault. Its the fault of his fanbase which is very deluded. Babar scores a hundred on a dead pitch and his fans jump on to " Best All Format " bandwagon and hype their man to the moon

No wonder every time Babar fails - he gets trolled as if he is trash

In reality he is very good batter but the extreme hype around him needs to cool down. Of course Babar can score heavily in the next 5 years and prove he actually belongs to the class of Kohli or Steve Smith. As of now he is nowhere close. Even Pant is better test batter than him !

 

[NishanKonar]

Its actually similar to Dhoni in India. One reason Dhoni gets so much hate is bcoz his fanbase hypes everything about Dhoni to extreme levels - which results in backlash from other fans.

Dhoni was decent captain but his fans pretend how every move of his was basically 3D chess and how nobody can ever match his captaincy levels !

Its the same case with Babar Azam

 

[Shafi]

Its actually similar to Dhoni in India. One reason Dhoni gets so much hate is bcoz his fanbase hypes everything about Dhoni to extreme levels - which results in backlash from other fans.

Dhoni was decent captain but his fans pretend how every move of his was basically 3D chess and how nobody can ever match his captaincy levels !

Its the same case with Babar Azam

You compare Dhoni with Babar its like Sachin vs Ramiz. Dhoni was a great fighter with 5th grade steering where Babar is like a 3 cylinder car. This guy can only score heavily on flat pitches with 2nd/3rd grade bowlers.

 

[heddie19]

Its actually similar to Dhoni in India. One reason Dhoni gets so much hate is bcoz his fanbase hypes everything about Dhoni to extreme levels - which results in backlash from other fans.

Dhoni was decent captain but his fans pretend how every move of his was basically 3D chess and how nobody can ever match his captaincy levels !

Its the same case with Babar Azam

Yeah Pant is better than Babar and Imam is better than Kohli.

 

[NishanKonar]

You compare Dhoni with Babar its like Sachin vs Ramiz. Dhoni was a great fighter with 5th grade steering where Babar is like a 3 cylinder car. This guy can only score heavily on flat pitches with 2nd/3rd grade bowlers.

Not comparing Dhoni and Babar

Basically I am saying Dhoni gets lot of hate in India bcoz of his deluded fanbase who go over the top in hyping up their man. Its the same thing happening with Babar. Non stop hype about anybody will result in a pushback unless he is proving himself worthy of that hype every time

Like Kohli in 2016-18. He was so incredible all the time that his detractors got very little chance to say anything. But last 2 years he has not been so good and so his trolls are out in full force now

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Its actually similar to Dhoni in India. One reason Dhoni gets so much hate is bcoz his fanbase hypes everything about Dhoni to extreme levels - which results in backlash from other fans.

Dhoni was decent captain but his fans pretend how every move of his was basically 3D chess and how nobody can ever match his captaincy levels !

Its the same case with Babar Azam

Poor example. You could have easily took Pant's name and the hype he gets even after failing in LOIs. He hasn't achieved anything special in LOIs and look at how his fans hype him here.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Not comparing Dhoni and Babar

Basically I am saying Dhoni gets lot of hate in India bcoz of his deluded fanbase who go over the top in hyping up their man. Its the same thing happening with Babar. Non stop hype about anybody will result in a pushback unless he is proving himself worthy of that hype every time

Like Kohli in 2016-18. He was so incredible all the time that his detractors got very little chance to say anything. But last 2 years he has not been so good and so his trolls are out in full force now

O bhai, Dhoni has achieved a lot. You don't even know what you are talking about here. You are getting salty because Kohli was trolled because he wasn't been so good for last 2 years. What about Dhoni then? He was also trolled during his last 2-3 years of playing career. Ganguly, Sachin, Sehwag all have faced criticism at the end of their playing careers. It is nothing new. Dhawan is the latest one.

Basically you are going after Dhoni fans and Kohli haters in one post and think nobody can see your agenda behind this.

You could have easily said that Dhoni also received hate at the end of his career by his trolls because even they were no where to be seen when he was at his peak.

 

[NishanKonar]

O bhai, Dhoni has achieved a lot. You don't even know what you are talking about here. You are getting salty because Kohli was trolled because he wasn't been so good for last 2 years. What about Dhoni then? He was also trolled during his last 2-3 years of playing career. Ganguly, Sachin, Sehwag all have faced criticism at the end of their playing careers. It is nothing new. Dhawan is the latest one.

Basically you are going after Dhoni fans and Kohli haters in one post and think nobody can see your agenda behind this.

You could have easily said that Dhoni also received hate at the end of his career by his trolls because even they were no where to be seen when he was at his peak.

Of course Dhoni achieved a lot. But his deluded fans behave like he was the beginning of Indian cricket. As if nothing good ever happened before Dhoni. As if Dhoni did not lead India to those humiliating 4-0 losses in SENA series. As if Dhoni did not over extend his career and kept playing when he was no longer good enough

Dhoni never had a peak like Kohli. So he had trolls all throughout his career

Also Dhoni had a lot of skeletons in his cupboard - like Srinivasan & his son-in-law, CSK fixing allegations, Mohinder Amarnath sacking, Mudgal envelope. Kohli has never faced such allegations so far. So in Kohli's case trolls have less material compared to Dhoni

Anyways my overall point is Dhoni, Babar gets so much hate bcoz of their deluded fanbases. Same reason Cristiano gets so much hate

ps : Sehwag , Dhawan all faced criticism but not so much hate and vitriol bcoz they never had dedicated fan armies always hyping them to the moon

 

[NishanKonar]

Poor example. You could have easily took Pant's name and the hype he gets even after failing in LOIs. He hasn't achieved anything special in LOIs and look at how his fans hype him here.

Pant also played some stunning innings in ODIs but you will ignore them bcoz it does not suit your agenda !

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Rishabh Pant in Test cricket in 2022:
Innings - 9
Runs - 532
Average - 66.50
SR - 90.78
Fifties - 3
Hundreds - 2 (Both are away)

146 in England
100 in SA
96 in SL

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Not comparing Dhoni and Babar

Basically I am saying Dhoni gets lot of hate in India bcoz of his deluded fanbase who go over the top in hyping up their man. [/B]Its the same thing happening with Babar. Non stop hype about anybody will result in a pushback unless he is proving himself worthy of that hype every time

Like Kohli in 2016-18. He was so incredible all the time that his detractors got very little chance to say anything. But last 2 years he has not been so good and so his trolls are out in full force now

He deserved all the hype, end of the day he is the one who lifted all trophies for India.
He will be remembered as a revolutionary who brought a paradigm shift to Indian cricket.

Dhoni gets hate because he has more following than others and he achieved more than so called stars, obviously few people can't digest.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant also played some stunning innings in ODIs but you will ignore them bcoz it does not suit your agenda !

List them please.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Babar is averaging 50 in tests today, 59 in ODIs and 41 in T20s.

 

[Ab Fan]

Magnificent comparison thread.

This reminds me of comparing Brian Lara to Sachin Tendulkar where Pant is like Lara, slightly less consistent but known for playing match winning knocks every now and then while Babar is like Tendulkar, consistent statistical run machine.

 

[Forum363]

He deserved all the hype, end of the day he is the one who lifted all trophies for India.
He will be remembered as a revolutionary who brought a paradigm shift to Indian cricket.

Dhoni gets hate because he has more following than others and he achieved more than so called stars, obviously few people can't digest.

I never understand why Indians and the world doesn’t rate Dhoni higher. The guy won everything and was the most important player india ever had.

 

[kumjsr]

Magnificent comparison thread.

This reminds me of comparing Brian Lara to Sachin Tendulkar where Pant is like Lara, slightly less consistent but known for playing match winning knocks every now and then while Babar is like Tendulkar, consistent statistical run machine.

How is Pant less consistent?

 

[kumjsr]

Babar is averaging 50 in tests today, 59 in ODIs and 41 in T20s.

ODI and T20s numbers are irrelevant for this thread.

 

[Ab Fan]

I never understand why Indians and the world doesn’t rate Dhoni higher. The guy won everything and was the most important player india ever had.

Probably because as Indian cricket fans, we want to abandon the culture of taking things for granted when you become old and not performing. When a player becomes big enough in India, he think he can go on forever till he wants and even if he is performing terribly, he only gets to decide when to retire. That culture needs to be abandon.

Dhoni in his last 3-4 years had a strike rate of 80-82 which for a no.5-6 in ODIs is simply embarassing by all standards. You couldn't ask for anything else than hate for such lowly performance.

As for Test cricket, Dhoni was always an average test cricketer( similar to Sarfaraz Ahmed) and captained India to 0-4 whitewash in England and Australia in 2011 and then the home series loss in England 2012.

 

[Ab Fan]

How is Pant less consistent?

Just like how Lara is less consistent.

 

[Zaz]

This is a stupid thread

Comparing a top order batter with a keeper batter

Who comes up with these ideas

 

[kumjsr]

This is a stupid thread

Comparing a top order batter with a keeper batter

Who comes up with these ideas

How come both are in top 6 of ICC test rankings?

 

[Bewal Express]

Pants can play with much more aggression because he has his WK to fall back on. No doubt he is a top player but your comparing apples and oranges. Babar literally stands between solid scores and capitulation and every innings matters

 

[kumjsr]

This is a stupid thread

Comparing a top order batter with a keeper batter

Who comes up with these ideas

Babar batted at no 4, while Pant bats at no 5 for India.

 

[kumjsr]

Pants can play with much more aggression because he has his WK to fall back on. No doubt he is a top player but your comparing apples and oranges. Babar literally stands between solid scores and capitulation and every innings matters

Pant can play aggressively because he has skills to do so, not because he has WK to fall back on.

Babar has more assured spot in Pakistan team because of captaincy.

Pant also plays rescue knocks and does it more often that Babar.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Babar can easily replace both KL and Kohli together in the Indian team currently and bat alongside Pant.

 

[Pollack]

This comparison itself is unreasonable. Babar is an accumulator while Pant is an impact player. Babar can be more consistent while Pant will be inconsistent. Babar if he continues to grow will have higher average while Pant given his style of play and role given to him in the team will have just about decent average only. Also babar is a top order batsman while Pant middle order batsman.

 

[Bilal7]

Babar is a far better batsman than Pant in every format. This is as ridiculous as comparing Gilchrist to Sachin. Yes, coming in at #6 and #7 and scoring quick runs is good but you can't compare that to someone batting at #3 or #4 and being the backbone of a batting lineup and averaging a good 10 points higher.

 

[kumjsr]

Babar is a far better batsman than Pant in every format. This is as ridiculous as comparing Gilchrist to Sachin. Yes, coming in at #6 and #7 and scoring quick runs is good but you can't compare that to someone batting at #3 or #4 and being the backbone of a batting lineup and averaging a good 10 points higher.

Pant bats at 5 and Babar bats at 4.

Pant avg 44 and Babar just touched 50.

Pant is also backbone of Indian batting.

Babar never averaged 10 points higher than Pant.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

It's Simple.
Babar is too good on Flat roads, and he scores tons of runs.
Pant is too good on Difficult tracks, and he always produce impactful knocks.

 

[kumjsr]

Pant in 33 matches (age 25)
Runs: 2271
Avg: 43.67
100s: 5
HS: 159

Babar in first 33 matches (age 26)
Runs: 2169
Avg: 42.52
100s: 5
HS: 143

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Babar is a far better batsman than Pant in every format. This is as ridiculous as comparing Gilchrist to Sachin. Yes, coming in at #6 and #7 and scoring quick runs is good but you can't compare that to someone batting at #3 or #4 and being the backbone of a batting lineup and averaging a good 10 points higher.

Not at all. Pant has won his team Tests in Australia and England. Babar can't even do that at home. Add his shameful captaincy and Pant is miles ahead.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Not at all. Pant has won his team Tests in Australia and England. Babar can't even do that at home. Add his shameful captaincy and Pant is miles ahead.

Which test did he win for India in England?