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Ruben Amorim's Manchester United Meltdown: Time to Pull the Plug?

Should Manchester United sack Ruben Amorim now?


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After Manchester United's shocking 2-1 Carabao Cup exit to fourth-tier Grimsby Town (via penalties)—adding to a dismal run with just 17 wins in 45 games under Ruben Amorim, a Premier League win rate of 24.7% (worse than any manager since Sir Alex), and a record-low 15th-place finish last season—what's your verdict?

Despite £200m splashed on new signings like Cunha, Mbeumo, and Sesko, the team still can't convert chances, and key players like Garnacho (now eyeing Chelsea) and Mainoo are being marginalized in Amorim's 3-4-2-1 system. Fans are chanting "sacked in the morning"—is the noise too loud to ignore?

Should Man Utd sack Amorim now?
 
His attitude yesterday suggest that he has pulled the plug. There is no real way out for him apart from the sack or resignation.

He is stubbornly sticking by his failing system and if he changes it now then it will call into question his past stubbornness and decision making.
 
Way too early, only 2 matches into the PL season. Changing managers at this stage will be strange, unless they can bring in someone they are certain will make fast improvements.

The worrying thing for a Utd fan is Amormim was alluding to the players throwing him under the bus with his comments. If the relationship is already fragile between him and some players, he may not last until Xmas.
 
Let's not carried away. Continously sacking managers clearly has not worked.

We need to give him as long as Possible to turn this around.

Let's not forget. During the Gooners game, fans were convinced a Champions league Place was up for grabs lol 😆
 
Who knows. Like Ten hag, maybe Amorim puts a dagger in to Scousers aspirations of winning majors.

Happened to Klopp in the famous Melt down. Slot could be next.
 
The eventuality will happen. But right now would be knee jerk.

Amorim, Potter and Nuno who’d be the first to go..

The joke’s on utd management if they sack another manager mid season.
 
Manchester United head coach Ruben Amorim is understood to retain the support of the club ownership despite last night's shock Carabao Cup defeat at League Two Grimsby

Amorim has provoked question marks over his tenure with his own statements following the penalty shootout loss at Blundell Park, before which his side had to come back from two goals down having been outplayed for an hour.

However, sources with an understanding of the situation are adamant this uncertainty does not exist from the top down.

They say it was always felt the journey being taken under Amorim would be a long one and that the club want to avoid making short-term decisions based around a couple of poor results.

United have backed Amorim by spending £200m on attacking players this summer, while negotiations likely to end with Alejandro Garnacho, Antony and Rasmus Hojlund joining Chelsea, Real Betis and Napoli respectively, are continuing.

The club are mindful that in the summer of 2024 they backed Erik ten Hag with a similar transfer budget, only to sack the Dutchman before the end of October.
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The defeat at Grimsby is the first time United have lost to fourth-tier opposition. Amorim did not shirk media duties afterwards and spoke to in-house station MUTV on his bleak assessment of the situation.

"Let's focus on the next game and then we have time to think about things," he said.

"We have a job to do, a job to prepare, and then we will stop and think things through."

The Portuguese manager opted not to clarify his comments, which even inside Old Trafford have been interpreted by some as the 40-year-old considering his future.

It is not the first time this has happened. It was reported he offered to resign at one stage last season, although this has never been confirmed. In the summer, Amorim described his desire to do a good job and emotional response when he doesn't as "an ego thing".

He is bound to be asked about his comments when he speaks to the media on Friday afternoon before his side's Premier League game against Burnley at Old Trafford the following day.

Immediately after the international break United go to Etihad Stadium for the first Manchester derby of the season. Chelsea visit Old Trafford the following week, while a trip to old rivals Liverpool looms on 19 October.

He will also be asked to expand on his claim that his players "spoke really loud today what they want". Even within the dressing room, which appeared so supportive of Amorim during a pre-season notable for the unity in the camp, there is uncertainty over what the former Sporting coach was saying.

Few players who started last night's game put forward a convincing case for selection against Burnley, including midfielder Kobbie Mainoo, who completed the full 90 minutes, and goalkeeper Andre Onana, whose mistake for Grimsby's second goal made a bad situation worse.

Eyebrows were also raised at £73.7m forward Benjamin Sesko being the last outfield player to take a penalty for United in the marathon shootout, which extended to 13 shots for each side.

Sources have said the decision was taken as Sesko, who was completing his first competitive 90 minutes since 19 April, was experiencing cramp due to a pitch that had become heavy with rainfall.

Source: BBC
 
Probably should have been sacked last season. Amorim cost man united European football and left them 15th with not being able to adapt his tactics for the squad or the league.

Now united have spent a lot of money again for a manager, it seems silly to sack them after 3 games. The new manager might not want these signings.

I think he was extremely complacent last season. Blaming his squad, players instead of trying to make the best out of whatever he was given. Very poor attitude in sport. It was like until he got some of his own players in, he was unwilling to even try. Makes sense he didn’t want to leave Sporting until end of season, and in hindsight man united shouldn’t have pressured him to join midway if this was how he was going to manage until end of season. He was completely inflexible and stubborn in his approach.
 
'Sometimes I hate my players, sometimes I want to quit' - Amorim

Manchester United boss Ruben Amorim has blamed his emotions for his post-match comments after the Grimsby defeat which provoked questions about his future, saying "sometimes I want to quit".

In the immediate aftermath of the EFL Cup defeat by the League Two side on Wednesday, the Portuguese said his team "were completely lost" and that "something has to change".

He opted not to clarify his comments, which even inside Old Trafford have been interpreted by some as the 40-year-old considering his future.

But speaking on Friday, he said: "To be really honest, every time that we have a defeat like that in the future I'm going to be like that. I'm going to say sometimes I hate my players and sometimes I love my players.

"Sometimes I want to quit, sometimes I want to be here for 20 years.

"I need to improve on that, it's going to be hard but now I'm focused on the next game."


 
The eventuality will happen. But right now would be knee jerk.

Amorim, Potter and Nuno who’d be the first to go..

The joke’s on utd management if they sack another manager mid season.
Some things are too predictable. Another season, another midseason sacking at Utd.

Now looking to bring in specialist interim manager lol 🤣
 
The Quality of the Premier League this season for me is at a all time low. The competitiveness is there no doubt, but overall the Quality is very poor.
 
Some things are too predictable. Another season, another midseason sacking at Utd.

Now looking to bring in specialist interim manager lol 🤣
To be fair I have a feeling Amorim wanted to get sacked even first season. The way that guy talked it was strange.

Then he saw his chance as Marsesca did what he did and followed suit. He knew he was appointed head coach not manager it’s in the contract. And had absolutely no credit in the bank like Maresca. Yet followed suit.

And no point did it look like he was desperate to manage. I think he came to United and it quickly dawned on him he wouldn’t be able to do the job. And it was hurting his reputation. Contrast his behaviour to Ole, stark contrast, who we all know loved the job. Amorims even pictured grinning in pictures after the job.

United really had bad luck when it came to this appointment. I can’t blame the board. They backed him in ways I have never seen a guy backed who finished 15th. The issue was I think he already wanted out months ago.
 
The Quality of the Premier League this season for me is at an all time low. The competitiveness is there no doubt, but overall the Quality is very poor.
There are definite rumours around luis enrique wanting the job. Said Xavi before but you’re right apparently luis enrique might want to leave psg for a new challenge. And yeah you have to take luis enrique if he’s available no question. Would be incredible for United. First time there is a proven manager in a strong league in his prime in since Ferguson. He’d be a whole another level than the previous managers.
 
After Manchester United's shocking 2-1 Carabao Cup exit to fourth-tier Grimsby Town (via penalties)—adding to a dismal run with just 17 wins in 45 games under Ruben Amorim, a Premier League win rate of 24.7% (worse than any manager since Sir Alex), and a record-low 15th-place finish last season—what's your verdict?

Despite £200m splashed on new signings like Cunha, Mbeumo, and Sesko, the team still can't convert chances, and key players like Garnacho (now eyeing Chelsea) and Mainoo are being marginalized in Amorim's 3-4-2-1 system. Fans are chanting "sacked in the morning"—is the noise too loud to ignore?

Should Man Utd sack Amorim now?
nothing shocking about United tbh. They been pathetic for over a decade now
 
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There are definite rumours around luis enrique wanting the job. Said Xavi before but you’re right apparently luis enrique might want to leave psg for a new challenge. And yeah you have to take luis enrique if he’s available no question. Would be incredible for United. First time there is a proven manager in a strong league in his prime in since Ferguson. He’d be a whole another level than the previous managers.

True. But, Luis Enrique is no "Yes" man. He will definitely not want to work at a club wich now reakes of a Toxic culture. Unless he's given assurances, he wont be interested at all. The guy will be in demand from other Super Clubs, and if Pep is leaving City, he would replace Pep no problem
 
True. But, Luis Enrique is no "Yes" man. He will definitely not want to work at a club wich now reakes of a Toxic culture. Unless he's given assurances, he wont be interested at all. The guy will be in demand from other Super Clubs, and if Pep is leaving City, he would replace Pep no problem
I think they'll give him that power. The board changed their tune since Ole. Ten Hag was backed a lot. He was given a huge budget and allowed to spend on the players he wanted. He absolutely wasted it. It's ironic, the one guy they actually go and give control to, he mucks it.

Amorim I think would have been backed more had he finished anywhere respectable. But if you go and finish 15th you are in a really bad position. Buying players to fit his system is a bad idea if he might get sacked soon (which is a possibility if you finish 15th). And of course buying players will be far inflated because of no european football and low finish, players also might not even want to come to Man united as a result.

The pickups of Lammens, Mbeumo, Cunha were generally very good. Even Sesko, it's hard to buy a striker these days for anything close to reasonable. And they still forked out a lot money. More than any other club would give a guy who finished 15th. Also for the most part he was allowed to keep his formation for most of his time even when they were struggling. Even for the business side, getting rid of someone like Rashford in terms of marketing would be mostly unheard of for man united years back yet they were willing to let him go. And you've got to say that the recent transfer window man united had was probably the best they've had in years. They were mostly very good signings and should work with a range of systems and managers.

I am sure if Luis Enrique comes in they will do their best to fulfill all his demands. Manchester united are desperate now, when you have managers which are not even getting European football, and languishing mid or lower table, it hurts business. I just think when they finally saw the error of their ways they backed the wrong two managers in Ten Hag and Amorim. And they've suffered because they've backed him, not the opposite.
 
United should have never appointed a guy that played 5 at the back. Ratcliffe has no clue what he is doing and United are still a mess.
The calm choice is Eddie Howe, who will inevitably get sacked in the next year or so by Newcastle and his calmness and Uniteds history, will be a good fit.
 
United should have never appointed a guy that played 5 at the back. Ratcliffe has no clue what he is doing and United are still a mess.
The calm choice is Eddie Howe, who will inevitably get sacked in the next year or so by Newcastle and his calmness and Uniteds history, will be a good fit.

If he's getting sacked at Newcastle, then UTD is a totally different kettle of Fish.

The logical choices for Utd because of the enormous task that is required are

Ancelotti
Luis Enrique
Flick
Tuchel
 
If he's getting sacked at Newcastle, then UTD is a totally different kettle of Fish.

The logical choices for Utd because of the enormous task that is required are

Ancelotti
Luis Enrique
Flick
Tuchel
Newcastle have no history and are shocked at any success. United dont have the angst of not winning titles and can afford( within reason) to be patient. He would be good fit
 
Newcastle have no history and are shocked at any success. United dont have the angst of not winning titles and can afford( within reason) to be patient. He would be good fit

Success or no success. The scrutiny and expectations at Utd are second to None. I am a fan of Eddie Howe and the Job hes done at Newcastle. Personally think after his tenure at Newcastle, he could well take the England Job whenever it comes available.
 
Success or no success. The scrutiny and expectations at Utd are second to None. I am a fan of Eddie Howe and the Job hes done at Newcastle. Personally think after his tenure at Newcastle, he could well take the England Job whenever it comes available.
United have few option's that will make a difference. The MF lacks legs, and that means that you cant play all action football that Fergie gave them. Its not part of Uniteds dna to play just counter attacks, with 5 at the back entails most of the time.
 
To be fair I have a feeling Amorim wanted to get sacked even first season. The way that guy talked it was strange.

Then he saw his chance as Marsesca did what he did and followed suit. He knew he was appointed head coach not manager it’s in the contract. And had absolutely no credit in the bank like Maresca. Yet followed suit.

And no point did it look like he was desperate to manage. I think he came to United and it quickly dawned on him he wouldn’t be able to do the job. And it was hurting his reputation. Contrast his behaviour to Ole, stark contrast, who we all know loved the job. Amorims even pictured grinning in pictures after the job.

United really had bad luck when it came to this appointment. I can’t blame the board. They backed him in ways I have never seen a guy backed who finished 15th. The issue was I think he already wanted out months ago.
Really good points, I agree except for the part that the board is free of any blame for the whole fiasco.

It started with how he was signed. As far as I know, Amorim was about to be confirmed and announced by Utd management when Ten Haag won the europa league out of nowhere.

Utd management backed out and asked Amorim to continue, who btw by then was almost saying his goodbyes at Sporting.

As soon as the new season started Ten Haag continued with his awful league performance which was as expected, Utd management happily sacked him and asked Amorim to leave his team midseason. Imagine the unnecessary embarrassment he was put through and then to join a club like Utd mid season, running. He became disillusioned very early.

I agree absolutely that he seemed to be asking for it from Day 1. What I have explained above is what I think the reason behind his actions.
 
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