Sachin Tendulkar's (not so) cryptic tweet

[TheSultan]

Sachin carried Indian batting until Ganguly emerged into white ball cricket around 1997.

Dravid never was a permanent in the side until 1999 WC and was dropped even after that. He became regular when Ganguly got him back in the side as wicket keeper batsman.

In test cricket as well, only Navjot Sidhu gave him some support...otherwise it was only Sachin.

It was only at the turn of millenium when match fixers got booted out, new players like Sehwag & Yuvi came into the side, the load was reduced from Sachin's shoulder.

I have followed cricket since 1996 WC and fully aware of our history.

I have followed cricket since the early 80s. At no point has an Indian batting side been a one man show. I watched a batting line-up of Gavaskar, amarnath, vengsarkar, Srikanth, shastri was useful too, then Azharuddin, Manjrekar, obv Tendulkar, Navjot Sidhu, Kapil Dev used to chip in, Kambli briefly. Post 1996 he had Ganguly and Dravid. 2000s Sehwag, Laxman etc etc.

Now you can come and bring me another spreadsheet argument and demean you’re own countrymen’s stats as much as you want, but they were not a one man batting line up at all.

So no need to make Tendulkar this little Bichara all the time.

 

[TheSultan]

Guy like bucknor shouldn't have had a career as a umpire tbh. I am one of Sachin biggest haters. I absolutely despise stat padders but there is no reason whatsoever to defend a noob charlatan rubbish umpire like bucknor.

He should be in jail for some of those rubbish calls. Wonder if he was bribed perhaps.

That doesn’t prove any bias. Umpires deteriorate over the years but the crying by India is another “Victim card” they try to pull out.

No-one loves a Bichara - have some self respect

 

[Rajdeep]

I have followed cricket since the early 80s. At no point has an Indian batting side been a one man show. I watched a batting line-up of Gavaskar, amarnath, vengsarkar, Srikanth, shastri was useful too, then Azharuddin, Manjrekar, obv Tendulkar, Navjot Sidhu, Kapil Dev used to chip in, Kambli briefly. Post 1996 he had Ganguly and Dravid. 2000s Sehwag, Laxman etc etc.

Now you can come and bring me another spreadsheet argument and demean you’re own countrymen’s stats as much as you want, but they were not a one man batting line up at all.

So no need to make Tendulkar this little Bichara all the time.

If you have been following cricket since 80s, it is surprising that you are still so clueless. Gavaskar, Vengsarkar etc never played with Tendulkar. India batting from 1994 onwards was Manjerakar, Robin Singh and fixers like Azhar, Jadeja and Mongia. Apart from Azhar, none of these batters would get into present Indian side. Tendulkar was the only top tier batsman who carried this line up on his shoulder. Also, by one man show literally don't mean only one man batting... jeez. It means he was the main player on which the entire team used to depend and when he gets out meaning game over for India.

Dravid was never permanent in the side, atleast in white ball cricket till 2001. Yes, once Ganguly peaked in 1997, only then some burden got lifted from his shoulders but still his best year was 1998 which was one of the best batsmanship I have seen from any cricketer.

No one is making Sachin bechara. There is no need to make Sachin bechara infront of fans of a country who is yet to produce a batsman 1/4th of his calibre. I am just fact checking you since you are clueless. LOL

 

[TheSultan]

If you have been following cricket since 80s, it is surprising that you are still so clueless. Gavaskar, Vengsarkar etc never played with Tendulkar. India batting from 1994 onwards was Manjerakar, Robin Singh and fixers like Azhar, Jadeja and Mongia. Apart from Azhar, none of these batters would get into present Indian side. Tendulkar was the only top tier batsman who carried this line up on his shoulder. Also, by one man show literally don't mean only one man batting... jeez. It means he was the main player on which the entire team used to depend and when he gets out meaning game over for India.

Dravid was never permanent in the side, atleast in white ball cricket till 2001. Yes, once Ganguly peaked in 1997, only then some burden got lifted from his shoulders but still his best year was 1998 which was one of the best batsmanship I have seen from any cricketer.

No one is making Sachin bechara. There is no need to make Sachin bechara infront of fans of a country who is yet to produce a batsman 1/4th of his calibre. I am just fact checking you since you are clueless. LOL

I will forgive you as it seems reading is a bit of a challenge for you, but let me explain a bit clearer.

I did not say Gavaskar, Vengsarkar etc played with Tendulkar. My point was that since the 80s India have generally had a strong batting order. Those were examples of players in the 80s

You should be proud that you’ve always had decent batsmen. What’s sad is they you choose to denigrate your own players to try and make one player great. Very odd and obsessive behaviour.

From 94-2000 when if it was just Azharuddin, that’s one more than zero that you claim. And we all know Ganguly was there from 96.

This whole Bichara sob story of carrying the Indian batting is nonsense. You know it too, but it is yet another goalpost because the little man doesn’t stack up statistically as an outlier, nor does he have any meaningful knocks (don’t give me a spreadsheet of MoM awards) or any defining innings in series deciders, tournament finals.

He was technically very good, but one of many.

 

[Hitman]

This whole Bichara sob story of carrying the Indian batting is nonsense. You know it too, but it is yet another goalpost because the little man doesn’t stack up statistically as an outlier, nor does he have any meaningful knocks (don’t give me a spreadsheet of MoM awards) or any defining innings in series deciders, tournament finals.

Cough, cough ….

Tendulkar in Tournament Finals -

Innings - 39; Ave - 54.44; SR- 87.68; 100’s - 6; 50’s - 10


Tendulkar in Tournament Finals WON BY HIS TEAM -

Innings - 17; Ave - 96.53; SR - 98.04; 100’s - 6; 50’s - 5


Hold on! The fun doesn’t end here. Here is a player whom you love so much and here’s him in Tournament Finals -

Brian Lara : Innings - 18; Ave - 28.16; SR - 71.61; 100’s - 1; 50’s - 2

 

[TheSultan]

Cough, cough ….

Tendulkar in Tournament Finals -

Innings - 39; Ave - 54.44; SR- 87.68; 100’s - 6; 50’s - 10


Tendulkar in Tournament Finals WON BY HIS TEAM -

Innings - 17; Ave - 96.53; SR - 98.04; 100’s - 6; 50’s - 5


Hold on! The fun doesn’t end here. Here is a player whom you love so much and here’s him in Tournament Finals -

Brian Lara : Innings - 18; Ave - 28.16; SR - 71.61; 100’s - 1; 50’s - 2

Im not talking about Mickey Mouse tournaments. I mean ICC tournaments. Adjust your spreadsheet please.

 

[Mohraheem]

Pakistan fans are still not forget that humiliation lose against india.

Worst one was in t20 in nyc …

 

[Hitman]

Im not talking about Mickey Mouse tournaments. I mean ICC tournaments. Adjust your spreadsheet please.

But this is what you posted below.

This whole Bichara sob story of carrying the Indian batting is nonsense. You know it too, but it is yet another goalpost because the little man doesn’t stack up statistically as an outlier, nor does he have any meaningful knocks (don’t give me a spreadsheet of MoM awards) or any defining innings in series deciders, tournament finals.

Nowhere does it mention ICC Tournaments. You merely talked about Tournament Finals. Could it be that having been left red faced now, you want to add the criteria of ICC Tournaments to save yourself from embarrassment?

By the way, any rational explanation of your beloved Brian Lara’s numbers that I posted above?

 

[Hawkeye]

TBH this false claim that Bucknor was somehow personal against Tendulkar must be thoroughly investigated.

At that time Tendulkar alone had a billion fans, and any decision against him - even if deserving - would have created a backlash.

 

[Technics 1210]

There is NOTHING original about Tendulkar, absolutely nothing. Even his nickname "Little Master" was ripped off the one and only Hanif Mohammed the OG 'Little Master'. You read that right, look it up.

Though it does kinda of make sense why Tendulkar would try and mimic Pakistan greats given Tendulkar has a soft spot for the green jersey.

 

[Hitman]

There is NOTHING original about Tendulkar, absolutely nothing. Even his nickname "Little Master" was ripped off the one and only Hanif Mohammed the OG 'Little Master'. You read that right, look it up.

Though it does kinda of make sense why Tendulkar would try and mimic Pakistan greats given Tendulkar has a soft spot for the green jersey.

Is this the Hanif Mohammad you’re taking about?

Tendulkar is the best ever: Hanif Mohammad

Brian Lara and Inzamam-ul Haq are world class, but Tendulkar is unmatched, says the Pakistan batting legend.

m.rediff.com

 

[Technics 1210]

That doesn’t prove any bias. Umpires deteriorate over the years but the crying by India is another “Victim card” they try to pull out.

No-one loves a Bichara - have some self respect

Bailed from playing Pakistan in the 90s.
Bailed from #3 Test spot.
Bailed from 11/12 England series post match interviews.
Bailed from a series Vs Pak, in India.
Bailed from retirement because Lara retired and he saw an opportunity to stat pad his way to orchestrated records.

Now, he attacks a respected Umpire via a tweet, in his retirement.

 

[TheSultan]

There is NOTHING original about Tendulkar, absolutely nothing. Even his nickname "Little Master" was ripped off the one and only Hanif Mohammed the OG 'Little Master'. You read that right, look it up.

Though it does kinda of make sense why Tendulkar would try and mimic Pakistan greats given Tendulkar has a soft spot for the green jersey.

100% correct.

They ripped of “Little Master” from Hanif

They even tried to rip off “Master Blaster” once too which was the one and only King Viv’s.

 

[TheSultan]

But this is what you posted below.

Nowhere does it mention ICC Tournaments. You merely talked about Tournament Finals. Could it be that having been left red faced now, you want to add the criteria of ICC Tournaments to save yourself from embarrassment?

By the way, any rational explanation of your beloved Brian Lara’s numbers that I posted above?

the funny thing is you don’t actually have an answer for the ICC tournament finals. find me the stats I asked for

 

[Hitman]

the funny thing is you don’t actually have an answer for the ICC tournament finals. find me the stats I asked for

LOL, you were the one who asked the question in the first place acting smart. I never claimed anything about ICC tournament finals in the first place.​

 

[TheSultan]

LOL, you were the one who asked the question in the first place acting smart. I never claimed anything about ICC tournament finals in the first place.

Why would anyone ask about Mickey Mouse tournaments? Now either get me the ICC tournament final stats

I was having a perfectly civil conversation with @Rajdeep and you decided to join the party.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Bucknor was always jealous of SRT. Don't know what was the actual reason behind the jealously.

Easy he wanted to halt SRTs progress so his country man Brian Lara would be ahead... Too bad it didn't work out that way despite bucknors best efforts.

 

[BouncerGuy]

What do your posts have anything to do with Sachin's tweet???

stop derailing the thread now.

 

[Rajdeep]

I will forgive you as it seems reading is a bit of a challenge for you, but let me explain a bit clearer.

I did not say Gavaskar, Vengsarkar etc played with Tendulkar. My point was that since the 80s India have generally had a strong batting order. Those were examples of players in the 80s

You should be proud that you’ve always had decent batsmen. What’s sad is they you choose to denigrate your own players to try and make one player great. Very odd and obsessive behaviour.

From 94-2000 when if it was just Azharuddin, that’s one more than zero that you claim. And we all know Ganguly was there from 96.

This whole Bichara sob story of carrying the Indian batting is nonsense. You know it too, but it is yet another goalpost because the little man doesn’t stack up statistically as an outlier, nor does he have any meaningful knocks (don’t give me a spreadsheet of MoM awards) or any defining innings in series deciders, tournament finals.

He was technically very good, but one of many.

India has produced great batsman over multiple generations and we are extremely proud of them. However, back in 90s, Indian batting was in a slum. Azharuddin, though still a good player, was no longer the batsman he was until 1992 WC. His association with bookies and intentionally underperforming made the matter even worse. The rest of the batting line up was very average. It used to be Sachin or bust. The situation was so bad in 1996 WC that coach intentionally used to ask Sachin to not take any risk in first 15 overs to preserve his wicket. Ask any opposition player at that time and they will inform you who was the most priced scalp back then. Only when Ganguly peaked in 1997, Sachin got a helping hand but still the team was heavily dependent on him. That is why they send him to bat at no 4 in 1999 WC to preserve his wicket.

Sachin Tendulkar was the lone gun slinger in India team until 2001 Champions trophy in Nairobi when young players like Yuvi arrived, follower by Sehwag, Kaif, Dhoni etc etc. This was also the time when Rahul Dravid started flourishing as all format batsman.