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Sadiq Sanjrani becomes Chairman Senate (1st time from Baluchistan), What a tactical move Imran Khan!

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Phr kehte hen Imran ko sayasat nae aati :))

Zardari wanted Saleem Maandiwala to be Chairman Senate while PMLN was working to make Raza Rabbani or Raja Zaffaulhaq the chairman but PTI with only 13 votes made sure someone from Baluchistan becomes Chairman for the first time by announcing they will support Baluchistan candidate and that forced PPP to withdraw their candidate and follow PTI footstep.

Noon ke khawbon per paani phir gaya sath he Zardari ki investment by beh gae :yk
 
PMLN was so confused first they wanted an anti establishment candidate like Raza Rabbani to become chairman and gain PPP support but in the end fielded a pro establishment candidate Raja Zafaullhaq (known as the Establishment man and he was also a major part of dictator Zia cabinet)
 
Liberals brigade crying out loud they were ready to support even a pro establishment man like Raja Zafaul haq in love of jamhuri Nawaz Sharif :yk
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">57 votes for Sanjrani. <br><br>Epic loss for PML-N. But N will counterattack with a more credible case of being victimised by the invisible hand in Pakistani politics. <br><br>(May help to introspect about the very visible hand of Nawaz Sharif. Couldn’t seal the deal despite 33 own votes).</p>— Mosharraf Zaidi (@mosharrafzaidi) <a href="https://twitter.com/mosharrafzaidi/status/973183971289952256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Issay kehtay hain muskuratay howay zibba kardiya :))



Nawaz ke booray din chal rahay hain... kal moh pe joota aur aj moh pe chamaat :yk
 
Achakzai, Mengal, Bazinjo, and Asfandyar party all known as anti establishment parties supported zia ka laadla raja zafar ul haq :yk jamhuryat ka husan still ended up losing by 11 votes!

Ab next time yeh parties chote soobon ke liay awaz uthaane se pehle apne girebaan main jhaanken they betrayed a candidate from a smaller province.

Fazal ur Rehman and Siraj ul haq showed their munafiq face once again
 
Qamar Zaman Kaira (PPP): With 12 votes PTI knocked us and PMLN out!
 
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Ab kahan gaya vote ka taqadus? jamhuri champion nooras and their allies crying and using words like "mu kaala". Last time imran used harsh words for assembly the whole media and liberal brigade was ready to hang him i hope they will do same now to these hypocrites

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Utter humilation for the Nooras. [MENTION=135196]waleed88[/MENTION] didnt you predict a victory a few days ago . IK beat you with 12 votes!
 
There is more than one perspective to what happened in Senate today. Firstly, you people are right. For the very first time, it has been felt that Imran Khan has played like a real politician in this scenario. His ultimate objective was to deny Nawaz Sharif chairmanship of Senate and he has been successful in doing so. The upper house doesn't belong to NS despite the clear majority of his party therein. Mission accomplished.

Yet, what you are failing to recognize here is the damage this political maneuvering has caused to the standing of IK. He supported Zardari against NS. Why? His fight was supposed to be against corruption and evil. Why is he standing with Zardari here then? Does this mean he considers Zardari lesser of evil than Sharifs or that he eventually has let go all the principles he was once a champion of just to get a chance at a government in centre?

And lastly, in all this newfound political brinksmanship of Imran, has he really achieved anything? Apart from blocking Sharif's way to ruling Senate, off course? The winners here have been Zardari and Establishment, and Imran has again been used as just a pawn in the bigger game. At the end of day, he'll again be protesting against this Horse trading and everything else he can think of but the truth remains that he has become an integral part of this dirty game this time. It'll be too difficult for him to run from this in future.
 
There is more than one perspective to what happened in Senate today. Firstly, you people are right. For the very first time, it has been felt that Imran Khan has played like a real politician in this scenario. His ultimate objective was to deny Nawaz Sharif chairmanship of Senate and he has been successful in doing so. The upper house doesn't belong to NS despite the clear majority of his party therein. Mission accomplished.

Yet, what you are failing to recognize here is the damage this political maneuvering has caused to the standing of IK. He supported Zardari against NS. Why? His fight was supposed to be against corruption and evil. Why is he standing with Zardari here then? Does this mean he considers Zardari lesser of evil than Sharifs or that he eventually has let go all the principles he was once a champion of just to get a chance at a government in centre?

And lastly, in all this newfound political brinksmanship of Imran, has he really achieved anything? Apart from blocking Sharif's way to ruling Senate, off course? The winners here have been Zardari and Establishment, and Imran has again been used as just a pawn in the bigger game. At the end of day, he'll again be protesting against this Horse trading and everything else he can think of but the truth remains that he has become an integral part of this dirty game this time. It'll be too difficult for him to run from this in future.

You are reading it wrong here buddy Zardari had already done meetings with senators and was preparing to make Saleem Maandiwala the Chairman and did lot of investment but IK had other plans he was never going to support PPP candidate so he played masterstroke by gifting his seats to an ind candidate from Balochistan now that he wasn't support PPP or PMLN and there was no way Zardari can sit with PMLN in election year so he had to give up his candidate and followed IK footstep and save his party image as opposition that's what happened. IK was the first one to announce he will support the Baluchistan candidate and thats the reason CM Balochistan, newly elected Chairman Senate all are singing Imran Khan name instead of Zardari who had more seats but had to give up because of IK tactical move.
 
There is more than one perspective to what happened in Senate today. Firstly, you people are right. For the very first time, it has been felt that Imran Khan has played like a real politician in this scenario. His ultimate objective was to deny Nawaz Sharif chairmanship of Senate and he has been successful in doing so. The upper house doesn't belong to NS despite the clear majority of his party therein. Mission accomplished.

Yet, what you are failing to recognize here is the damage this political maneuvering has caused to the standing of IK. He supported Zardari against NS. Why? His fight was supposed to be against corruption and evil. Why is he standing with Zardari here then? Does this mean he considers Zardari lesser of evil than Sharifs or that he eventually has let go all the principles he was once a champion of just to get a chance at a government in centre?

And lastly, in all this newfound political brinksmanship of Imran, has he really achieved anything? Apart from blocking Sharif's way to ruling Senate, off course? The winners here have been Zardari and Establishment, and Imran has again been used as just a pawn in the bigger game. At the end of day, he'll again be protesting against this Horse trading and everything else he can think of but the truth remains that he has become an integral part of this dirty game this time. It'll be too difficult for him to run from this in future.

what should he have done ....allowed Nawaz a free hit to senate chairman? Then you would have called him naive ....

his left field option won the day... master stroke if you ask me.
 
Hit wicket, clean bowled and run out all in the one delivery. Mujhe kyun nikala!!!:))
 
There is more than one perspective to what happened in Senate today. Firstly, you people are right. For the very first time, it has been felt that Imran Khan has played like a real politician in this scenario. His ultimate objective was to deny Nawaz Sharif chairmanship of Senate and he has been successful in doing so. The upper house doesn't belong to NS despite the clear majority of his party therein. Mission accomplished.

Yet, what you are failing to recognize here is the damage this political maneuvering has caused to the standing of IK. He supported Zardari against NS. Why? His fight was supposed to be against corruption and evil. Why is he standing with Zardari here then? Does this mean he considers Zardari lesser of evil than Sharifs or that he eventually has let go all the principles he was once a champion of just to get a chance at a government in centre?

And lastly, in all this newfound political brinksmanship of Imran, has he really achieved anything? Apart from blocking Sharif's way to ruling Senate, off course? The winners here have been Zardari and Establishment, and Imran has again been used as just a pawn in the bigger game. At the end of day, he'll again be protesting against this Horse trading and everything else he can think of but the truth remains that he has become an integral part of this dirty game this time. It'll be too difficult for him to run from this in future.

This was a master stroke by IK. He split the NS-AZ mafia nexus as their trust has gone, he humiliated NS and the Nooras, he won an election with 12 votes and let Baluchistan know that they are not some step cousins of PK but an important part of PK. You and others are crying because IK has pulled off a master stroke with only 12 votes.
 
This was a master stroke by IK. He split the NS-AZ mafia nexus as their trust has gone, he humiliated NS and the Nooras, he won an election with 12 votes and let Baluchistan know that they are not some step cousins of PK but an important part of PK. You and others are crying because IK has pulled off a master stroke with only 12 votes.

Prominent PPP leaders like Kaira and Shazia Mari admitted IK made them play at backfoot otherwise Mandiwala was their candidate for Chairman
 
Prominent PPP leaders like Kaira and Shazia Mari admitted IK made them play at backfoot otherwise Mandiwala was their candidate for Chairman

I am not sure what it means in practical terms but anything that peeves of the The Criminal Nooras is worth doing. IK made AZ sing his tune, all this was done without spending a single paisa.
 
I am not sure what it means in practical terms but anything that peeves of the The Criminal Nooras is worth doing. IK made AZ sing his tune, all this was done without spending a single paisa.

Chairman Senate is also your President during the President's absence (when he is out of country or when his term ends), the chairman senate is empowered with all the duties of the presidency. Senate chairman just like speaker of National Assembly can delay or accelerate a bill in upper house these are the things that make this post important.
 
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IK :))) or Zardari??

Khasiani billi khamba noche :yk

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Khasiani billi khamba noche :yk

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Imran doesn't have the political accumen of a fly to pull this off, he will need to consult supernatural indicators first :))
 
Imran doesn't have the political accumen of a fly to pull this off, he will need to consult supernatural indicators first :))

need burnol? three times disqualification, phr NAB main roz haazryan, next joota on face of for your love of life and now this oh man i can understand your frustration :))
 
Imran doesn't have the political accumen of a fly to pull this off, he will need to consult supernatural indicators first :))

Oh dear, your duffer called AZ how many times and refused to answer. You came on here and predicted a Noora victory and now the best uou can do is more conspiracies. IK has humiliated Nooras on Panama, made your duffer cry, made Dar run and made Nooras see him everywhere.
 
IK won with 12 votes and humiliated your duffer.

IK really?? looooool

What I saw was opposition voting unanimously for one candidate, I fail to see how this is only IK who won by 12 votes?

After seeing defeat after defeat in elections, you guys seriously clutching on straws
 
IK really?? looooool

What I saw was opposition voting unanimously for one candidate, I fail to see how this is only IK who won by 12 votes?

After seeing defeat after defeat in elections, you guys seriously clutching on straws

And who proposed the Baluch candidate?
 
IK really?? looooool

What I saw was opposition voting unanimously for one candidate, I fail to see how this is only IK who won by 12 votes?

After seeing defeat after defeat in elections, you guys seriously clutching on straws

IK was one the one to came up with the name of Baluchistan candidate while zardari was making deals for his buddy Saleem Maandiwala and NS was on his knees offering Raza Rabbani another chance to please PPP but in the end both were clean bowled
 
And who proposed the Baluch candidate?

Well proposition is very interesting because seriously the seats I see from the parties :

PTI = 12

PPP = 20

I fail to see how 'PTI' was the one who actually voted him in or won againsst Nawaz?

The party that actually made it happen was Zardari's party PPP, the second highest seats in the senate
 
IK was one the one to came up with the name of Baluchistan candidate while zardari was making deals for his buddy Saleem Maandiwala and NS was on his knees offering Raza Rabbani another chance to please PPP but in the end both were clean bowled

What can the proposition do when your votes and seats in the senate are only 12? :))
 
Oh dear, your duffer called AZ how many times and refused to answer. You came on here and predicted a Noora victory and now the best uou can do is more conspiracies. IK has humiliated Nooras on Panama, made your duffer cry, made Dar run and made Nooras see him everywhere.

oh dear we just forgot 1 important vote of ishtehaari Dar was missing from todays voting!
 
What can the proposition do when your votes and seats in the senate are only 12? :))

It can turn the table on Zardari and NS both because Zardari can't support NS in election year and PTI can bypass PPP candidate without having to support PMLN learn some politics my dear IK came up with a teesra here with those 13 seats PPP was unable to make their candidate win and going with PMLN was making them look like they are still on bed with NS so they had no choice left but to support IK
 
What can the proposition do when your votes and seats in the senate are only 12? :))

When you are IK, you are born leader, 12 votes gets you the senate Chairman of your choice. When you are NS, 30+ votes and its utter humiliation. See IK leads, NS is just a gormless duffer who follows.
 
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It can turn the table on Zardari and NS both because Zardari can't support NS in election year and PTI can bypass PPP candidate without having to support PMLN learn some politics my dear IK came up with a teesra here with those 13 seats PPP was unable to make their candidate win and going with PMLN was making them look like they are still on bed with NS so they had no choice left but to support IK

I am really enjoying today.
 
When you are IK, you are born leader, 12 votes gets you the senate Chairman of your choice. When you are NS, 30+ votes and its utter humiliation. See IK leads, NS is just a gormless duffer who follows.

Hahahaha, everybody knows IK doesn't have the political accumen to get Zardari on the same table as him, nor has he ever intended to do that. As you can see Zardari is on the table voting in favor of IK, because of some assurances that haven't been given before. Like no problems with Dr. Asim Hussain, or no extension of Rangers authorities... stuff like that.

Same engineering that got MQM and PSP on the table. IK cannot negotiate to save his life you can carry on harping on this tune.
 
I am really enjoying today.

PPP leaders are admitting IK played smartly otherwise their candidate was Saleem Maandiwala but our nooras are so desperate to give the credit to Zardari oh man look at khasianis billis :))
 
It can turn the table on Zardari and NS both because Zardari can't support NS in election year and PTI can bypass PPP candidate without having to support PMLN learn some politics my dear IK came up with a teesra here with those 13 seats PPP was unable to make their candidate win and going with PMLN was making them look like they are still on bed with NS so they had no choice left but to support IK

Lets be honest, this is a trend for the grand alliance that is to come in general elections, and anyone who knew about this saw this coming from a mile away, regardless of IK's hue and cry about corruption, he won't get anywhere in this election unless he has a grand alliance in his favor.. even he knows this
 
When you are IK, you are born leader, 12 votes gets you the senate Chairman of your choice. When you are NS, 30+ votes and its utter humiliation. See IK leads, NS is just a gormless duffer who follows.

Born leader hahaah, and it was as if Imran Khan got Zardari on the table, and stopped all the cases against them going on in court, really IK has all this power? Is he illuminati?
 
Hahahaha, everybody knows IK doesn't have the political accumen to get Zardari on the same table as him, nor has he ever intended to do that. As you can see Zardari is on the table voting in favor of IK, because of some assurances that haven't been given before. Like no problems with Dr. Asim Hussain, or no extension of Rangers authorities... stuff like that.

Same engineering that got MQM and PSP on the table. IK cannot negotiate to save his life you can carry on harping on this tune.

Get over it, IK has made mince meat out of you and AZ. He has nailed the mafia.
 
Lets be honest, this is a trend for the grand alliance that is to come in general elections, and anyone who knew about this saw this coming from a mile away, regardless of IK's hue and cry about corruption, he won't get anywhere in this election unless he has a grand alliance in his favor.. even he knows this

Something like that was already tried where Q, N, JUIF, ANP, Other small parties and PPP shared bed just a few year ago Noonies even took oath from Mush nazrya e zaruret you know. btw why Chairman Senate first call was to IK not Zardari and why PPP leaders and media is admitting that was a champion move by IK?
 
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Jamhooriat sirf Noon se hai, baaqi sab dhoka hai :)

Best thing to come out of this is that Chairman senate is from Balochistan and Sharif will struggle to bring in laws that allow him to become life time Prime Minister of Pakistan.

I hope Sanjrani will do justice to his job!
 
oh dear we just forgot 1 important vote of ishtehaari Dar was missing from todays voting!

Has anyone found him? [MENTION=135196]waleed88[/MENTION] Have you seen him, if you have then let NS know where he is, he could have done with his vote today.
 
Something like that was already tried where Q, N, JUIF, ANP, Other small parties and PPP shared bed just a few year ago Noonies even took oath from Mush nazrya e zaruret you know. btw why Chairman Senate first call was to IK not Zardari and why PPP leaders and media is admitting that was a champion move by IK?

I haven't come across any sort of comment that actually called this 'IK's move'. Everyone from the opposition voted in favor of Sanjirani, and the credit of coming up with a neutral candidate goes to Imran Khan, but to call it Imran's victory? Are PTI supporters that desperate that they really want to call this Imran's victory after having on 12 seats in the senate? And an Independent candidate from Balochistan as the chairman? I don't think so.

Maybe they need to increase their vote bank a little, they are only losing every election they are participating it.

This win might help PTI supporters represent their party better in drawing rooms and facebook, where IK is PM. But sadly it won't affect the voters that already don't vote for him, which are alot btw.
 
Slow clap for those who consider this a PTI-PPP alliance.

PMLN nominated Raza Rabbani from Zardari's party
PPP nominated Saleem Mandviwala from Zardari's party
PTI nominated Sadiq Sanjrani an independent candidate from Balochistan

PMLN changed it's candidate to Zia ul Haq's right hand Zafar ul Haq
PPP changed it's candidate to Sadiq as opposition candidate

Sanjrani wins so who formed alliance with Zardari :))
 
Is this a victory for IK? Really? He still doesnt get votes from people, all this is it shows how desperate he is that he is ready to get into an alliance with Zardari, just to get majority in the senate. Thats a very desperate attempt if you ask me

Poor Nooras, its painful when you have been out thought and out voted. This is called democracy. What would Zia's poodle know about democracy?
 
I haven't come across any sort of comment that actually called this 'IK's move'. Everyone from the opposition voted in favor of Sanjirani, and the credit of coming up with a neutral candidate goes to Imran Khan, but to call it Imran's victory? Are PTI supporters that desperate that they really want to call this Imran's victory after having on 12 seats in the senate? And an Independent candidate from Balochistan as the chairman? I don't think so.

Maybe they need to increase their vote bank a little, they are only losing every election they are participating it.

This win might help PTI supporters represent their party better in drawing rooms and facebook, where IK is PM. But sadly it won't affect the voters that already don't vote for him, which are alot btw.

Thats why Maryam and her coterie of crooks are going ballistic at IK. Zia's poodles are being hurt today.
 
Slow clap for those who consider this a PTI-PPP alliance.

PMLN nominated Raza Rabbani from Zardari's party
PPP nominated Saleem Mandviwala from Zardari's party
PTI nominated Sadiq Sanjrani an independent candidate from Balochistan

PMLN changed it's candidate to Zia ul Haq's right hand Zafar ul Haq
PPP changed it's candidate to Sadiq as opposition candidate

Sanjrani wins so who formed alliance with Zardari :))

This is the best of it, with 12 votes and leadership IK humiliated the duffer. I bet his father Zia would be embarrassed by his humiliation today.
 
Once upon a time, in a jungle there was a strong huge elephant who everyone feared.

One day all animals of the jungle woke up to find the elephant on the ground very injured and bleeding profusely. Everyone rushed to take credit for tripping the elephant. Among them was a small mendki put out her leg that it was me who did the giant.
 
This election had nothing to do with political acumen of anyone, just exposed those who want to be shepherded by the danda of military...

Congratulations to PTI and their supporters for once again receiving the lollipop, and being used as a pawn.
 
Once upon a time, in a jungle there was a strong huge elephant who everyone feared.

One day all animals of the jungle woke up to find the elephant on the ground very injured and bleeding profusely. Everyone rushed to take credit for tripping the elephant. Among them was a small mendki put out her leg that it was me who did the giant.

Elephants have long memories, could you say the same for the PMLN top brass after their amnesia during the recent hearings? Pretty poor analogy
 
Once upon a time, in a jungle there was a strong huge elephant who everyone feared.

One day all animals of the jungle woke up to find the elephant on the ground very injured and bleeding profusely. Everyone rushed to take credit for tripping the elephant. Among them was a small mendki put out her leg that it was me who did the giant.

Did this elephant also have flats in MAYFAIR?
 
This election had nothing to do with political acumen of anyone, just exposed those who want to be shepherded by the danda of military...

Congratulations to PTI and their supporters for once again receiving the lollipop, and being used as a pawn.
Ah yes the conspiracy theory from Zia`s children.
 
This election had nothing to do with political acumen of anyone, just exposed those who want to be shepherded by the danda of military...

Congratulations to PTI and their supporters for once again receiving the lollipop, and being used as a pawn.

Who came up with the name of Raja Zafarulhaq aka Establishment man and main player of Zia cabinet? NS tried his best to please establishment by fielding Raja
 
Senate Chairman and Cm Baluchistan are lucky ke unko biscuits ke elawa or cheazain be mili verna IK itna sakhi nae :))

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These discussions on Pakistani politics are much saner than even the cricket discussions, who would've known :O
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION]

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Well said... this "anari" has been showing the Sharif mafia the mirror for the last five years and they don't like what they see.
 
Who came up with the name of Raja Zafarulhaq aka Establishment man and main player of Zia cabinet? NS tried his best to please establishment by fielding Raja

Pleasing establishment, wheeling and dealing by establishment, being acceptable to establishment etc etc etc...

Point is, why is establishment in the discussion in the first place? What is their relevance to senate elections? Can't they just stick to their job and let the politicians handle politics?
 
Pleasing establishment, wheeling and dealing by establishment, being acceptable to establishment etc etc etc...

Point is, why is establishment in the discussion in the first place? What is their relevance to senate elections? Can't they just stick to their job and let the politicians handle politics?

Zias children talking about the establishment is like Maryam talking about authenticity of documents.
 
Zias children talking about the establishment is like Maryam talking about authenticity of documents.

Repeating the questions for your slow brain:

why is establishment in the discussion in the first place? What is their relevance to senate elections? Can't they just stick to their job and let the politicians handle politics?
 
Repeating the questions for your slow brain:

Maybe you should ask [MENTION=135196]waleed88[/MENTION]. He blames everything on the establishment. Which from memory is your only excuse for the crooked families thefts. As i said Zias children moaning about the establishment is quite ironic.
 
Desi liberals and Geo/Jang definition of Democracy these days:

Govt of the Sharifs,

By the Sharifs

For the Sharifs.

Everything else will be considered a conspiracy by establishment :yk
 
Maybe you should ask [MENTION=135196]waleed88[/MENTION]. He blames everything on the establishment. Which from memory is your only excuse for the crooked families thefts. As i said Zias children moaning about the establishment is quite ironic.

And speaking of Zia's children, maybe you can consult with [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] who is harping how Zafar ul Haq's name was put forward by NS to appease establishment! :))
 
And speaking of Zia's children, maybe you can consult with [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] who is harping how Zafar ul Haq's name was put forward by NS to appease establishment! :))

I am not sure if NS did it appease the establishment as he knew he was going to lose as soon as IK outwitted him and AZ, so he put some loser forward to be humiliated.

Its interesting that on the one hand Nooras like you blabber on about the establishment and on the other, NS and every body around him is the product of Zia or Mush. Maybe one day you Nooras will see through the media releases and actually see the duffer for what he is, a product of the dictator.
 
Maybe you should ask [MENTION=135196]waleed88[/MENTION]. He blames everything on the establishment. Which from memory is your only excuse for the crooked families thefts. As i said Zias children moaning about the establishment is quite ironic.

Zia's favorite cricket player, who was kissed on cheeks by the great leader on his retirement (as per Anwar Maqsood in AnwarNama episode 3)... is ofcourse not as culpable when he was personally requested by the President to unretire and play as a captain again!
 
Desi liberals and Geo/Jang definition of Democracy these days:

Govt of the Sharifs,

By the Sharifs

For the Sharifs.

Everything else will be considered a conspiracy by establishment :yk

Well I don't think Imran Khan has enough power to make Asif Zardari sit and a vote for an independent candidate.

Secondly does he have enough power to stop investigation of corruption cases against PPP, AZ, Asim Hussain, or the Rangers getting their extensions?

If not then God help us if a man has so much power (IK) but has not managed to win an election yet, is Imran Khan Santa Clause?
 
Zia's favorite cricket player, who was kissed on cheeks by the great leader on his retirement (as per Anwar Maqsood in AnwarNama episode 3)... is ofcourse not as culpable when he was personally requested by the President to unretire and play as a captain again!

This is such a terrible justification from the children of Zia that its not worth replying to but suffice to say that IK was a brilliant cricketer with or without Zia(one of the best ever on every scale) but your duffer was nothing without his daddy. NS is Zias child and without the patronage he was nothing. So everytime you blabber about the establishment, just remember the Noora king owes his whole career to the establishment.
 
This is such a terrible justification from the children of Zia that its not worth replying to but suffice to say that IK was a brilliant cricketer with or without Zia(one of the best ever on every scale) but your duffer was nothing without his daddy. NS is Zias child and without the patronage he was nothing. So everytime you blabber about the establishment, just remember the Noora king owes his whole career to the establishment.

Forget about Zia ki baaqyat there are Mushahid Syed, Ameer Maqam, Talal Chaudhary, Danial Aziz, Marvi Memon, Kashmala Tariq, Haroon Akhtar, Awais Laghari let me stop here the list is so long these are Musharraf ki baaqyat now standing with Noora and are federal and state ministers lol but well well noora is anti establishment :yk
 
[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] that poster above crying about establishment hand again, :)) Why are all these choozay scared of establishment? Sharifs have ruled Punjab for decades and Pakistan three times, so either the establishment is pretty useless at stopping them in which case there is no need to worry or the establishment has been in cahoots with them, which we have ample evidence of in the past.
 
Forget about Zia ki baaqyat there are Mushahid Syed, Ameer Maqam, Talal Chaudhary, Danial Aziz, Marvi Memon, Kashmala Tariq, Haroon Akhtar, Awais Laghari let me stop here the list is so long these are Musharraf ki baaqyat now standing with Noora and are federal and state ministers lol but well well noora is anti establishment :yk

The way they parrot the "establishment" line is the same way Maryams media cell train their internet trolls. What they forget is that in the age of information we know who have been the establishment stooges and the guys you listed above are some of the losers that joined the duffer.
 
[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] that poster above crying about establishment hand again, :)) Why are all these choozay scared of establishment? Sharifs have ruled Punjab for decades and Pakistan three times, so either the establishment is pretty useless at stopping them in which case there is no need to worry or the establishment has been in cahoots with them, which we have ample evidence of in the past.

haha completely agree with you brother the Establishment is so useless they can't stop a dumbo like noora :)) Army is always blamed for massive corruption but how many generals name appeared in any international leaks for having billions abroad? or our general are so powerful they can even control the international media and jornos :yk
 
The way they parrot the "establishment" line is the same way Maryams media cell train their internet trolls. What they forget is that in the age of information we know who have been the establishment stooges and the guys you listed above are some of the losers that joined the duffer.

When Zia died in the plane crash Noora was CM Punjab at that time and he went to next army chief Aslam Baig to impose another marshal law and he will support it lol but well he was always anti establishment you know. Noora even betrayed PM junejo and helped Zia to throw him out. Noora also took money from ISI (proved in court) to form an alliance and throw out bibi's govt. Noora also received helped recently from COAS Kayani in 2013 elections but well well he is an anti establishment guy our very masoom noora!
 
When Zia died in the plane crash Noora was CM Punjab at that time and he went to next army chief Aslam Baig to impose another marshal law and he will support it lol but well he was always anti establishment you know. Noora even betrayed PM junejo and helped Zia to throw him out. Noora also took money from ISI (proved in court) to form an alliance and throw out bibi's govt. Noora also received helped recently from COAS Kayani in 2013 elections but well well he is an anti establishment guy our very masoom noora!

I just we had more anti establishment guys like him. Lol
 
Zia's favorite cricket player, who was kissed on cheeks by the great leader on his retirement (as per Anwar Maqsood in AnwarNama episode 3)... is ofcourse not as culpable when he was personally requested by the President to unretire and play as a captain again!

Poor, poor argument.How has that gesture helped Imran Khan’s politics?
 
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