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After 110 overs in Karachi Test, both spinners Nauman and Sajid have failed to take even a single Wicket.

It certainly is huge matter of concern. Economy rate of Sajid Khan is so high. Nauman took 6 wickets in Pindi test but that was after all the damage was done by Aussie batters.

There is a theory that Yasir Shah is washed up. Whatever it is, the guy is experienced, have been playing Test international cricket for 8-9 years and have 200+ test wickets under his belt.

Looking at 1 Test and a half, overall decision to dump Yasir Shah is naive and just shows based on 1 or 2 performances against minnows like Bangladesh, some players can be selected.
 
I know Pakistan's performance is making everyone think of who could have been selected instead. But fact is this is a garbage pitch that any bowler would have struggled on. Because Pakistan has won 2 series on these same pitches. The wickets dished out in the last two matches though have been nothing like traditional Pindi or Karachi wickets.

Ramiz Raja needs to be booted out for this remarkable display of incompetence. I hold him responsible for this fiasco.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I know Pakistan's performance is making everyone think of who could have been selected instead. But fact is this is a garbage pitch that any bowler would have struggled on. Because Pakistan has won 2 series on these same pitches. The wickets dished out in the last two matches though have been nothing like traditional Pindi or Karachi wickets.

Ramiz Raja needs to be booted out for this remarkable display of incompetence. I hold him responsible for this fiasco.
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That is exactly what happens when you appoint Marketing, Sales and self PR type people as Chairman PCB, he killed Pakistan cricket in 1995 home Test series as captain and now this garbage. I wonder on what basis he was appointed. Based on over the top commentary or youtube channel. Completely sad state of affairs.
 
Yasir was rightly criticised for not performing, but that was in England or New Zealand away series. Why the management decided to discard him from home conditions, despite having a good series against SA last year is beyond anyone's imagination.

Yes, Sajid deserved his chance after list FC performances, but c'mon, any non-cricketing person can also see he's having difficulty turning the ball. He can't spin it, and on slow wickets that's even worse.
 
Sarwar89 said:
That is exactly what happens when you appoint Marketing, Sales and self PR type people as Chairman PCB, he killed Pakistan cricket in 1995 home Test series as captain and now this garbage. I wonder on what basis he was appointed. Based on over the top commentary or youtube channel. Completely sad state of affairs.
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Being a die-hard, loyal supporter of Imran Khan ofcourse. Despite being an incompetent fool who doesn't seem to understand much of anything about cricket.
 
Zahid Mehmood was the best spin option available. Can turn, has a good googly and has done better than almost all domestic spinners last few seasons.

Yasir Shah with no googly is not the answer
 
Saqlain should be blamed for doing nothing to improve a spinner.
 
He’s just taken 2 wickets if anything a younger spinner should replace Nauman who more of a containing spinner.
 
Yasir is trash!

I'd pick many others ahead of him now.

Sajid is easily the best spinner in Pak atm and he hasn't been given the assistance yet in this series, with these pathetic pitches.
 
Yasirs been on his way out for the last 2years Hes got no form behind or any bowling Hes unfit and in no way deserves to be in the team

If anybody thinks hed run through the aussies on this pitch they are deluded

Sajid or nauman arent to blame, the blame solely lies with the pcb for neutralising our bowlers with these pathetic pitches What an absolute farce!
 
The fans around here hate yasir shah they always wanted him to be dropped. Glad after this performance people realize why misbah used to play yasir shah
 
Major said:
The fans around here hate yasir shah they always wanted him to be dropped. Glad after this performance people realize why misbah used to play yasir shah
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You really think yasir wouldve had the current form or fitness to make a difference on these pitches?
 
Zaz said:
You really think yasir wouldve had the current form or fitness to make a difference on these pitches?
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Its just a what if kind of thing. Cant say for surely, however yasir shah has performances behind him and is a proven spinner. He gets alot of hate around here becuase he takes his time. But on this pitch if you are gonna play a spinner than play the one who is the best and has already proven himself in international cricket.
 
Zaz said:
You really think yasir wouldve had the current form or fitness to make a difference on these pitches?
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A leg spinner gets a lot of revs on the ball and has far greater chance of getting extra spin and bounce than offies. Yasir would have done much better here than these two, no doubt.
 
ChipShot said:
Zahid Mehmood was the best spin option available. Can turn, has a good googly and has done better than almost all domestic spinners last few seasons.

Yasir Shah with no googly is not the answer
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Yasir shah even without a googly is better than zahid. Even shadab khan is better than zahid, i realized this in the recent psl.

The problem with zahid is that while he does spin the ball, he is too slow. His ball can easibly be judged, he doesnt bowling with variations in pace. Even his googly becomes easy to read.

Yasir has variations. He has varieties and can increase and decrease his pace. Shadab khan has been effective due this one reason. Changing pace and delivieries...
 
Yasir Shah? Lol, I don’t think so. Besides he’s had injuries, fitness issues and other outside stuff which has also contributed to his non selection.
 
Shaddy86 said:
A leg spinner gets a lot of revs on the ball and has far greater chance of getting extra spin and bounce than offies. Yasir would have done much better here than these two, no doubt.
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Yasir has no form and fitness behind You are looking at yasir through rose tinted glasses He isnt the player he was 4-6 years back

Only in pakistan, players out of the team due to poor form and performance are better than the ones playing
 
Just because Sajid is mediocre it doesn't mean Yasir or anyone else is better.

Right now this side is being carried by a few individuals. We have glaring holes in the pace attack, spin and probably the openers too depending on how well Abdullah/Imam do from here.
 
I'd take a declining Yasir over these two unthreatening uncles. At least Yasir has a track record of winning us Test matches in Asia.

However I feel PCB have told him to lie low after that recent scandal, I don't believe this fitness excuse.
 
yasir is past it, pbly abt 40 and with his recent shenanigans pbly best to keep him away from the team. the real issue is that there are no decent spinners, not here, not even in domestic, or under 19.

i cant think of any young spinner other than mubasir or abrar to have even made a dent in domestics, and they are miles from test ready.

pak should just play shadab, he wouldnt do any worse on these pitches but at least he has some variation and can contribute with the bat and in the field.
 
Like I said after the BD tour, I saw those games and he bowled so many pies every over it was horrendous.

I have no idea why him and Nauman (who looks about 50) are rated on this board, both are bang average and pointless. If it takes someone 50 overs to take a handful of wickets its pretty useless. Even taking someone like Shadab would be less worse.
 
Also I don't want Yasir anywhere near the team in my opinion. He was named, in details, in the rape allegation where he then vanished, with the victim to them say 'it was a mistake'. How can naming someone so specifically be a mistake, its obvious he used his clout. It'd be a joke if he's included, its already poor he's made captain of a domestic side.

He's washed up in any case.
 
The more you watch Sajid and Nauman bowl the more you just feel sorry for them. They're really applying their trade day in day out under the sun.
 
99 overs from Sajid and Nauman got only 3 wickets and gave away 260 runs even though the cracks are out there in the pitch to exploit..

Thats a serious issue with the spinners...
 
Markhor said:
I'd take a declining Yasir over these two unthreatening uncles. At least Yasir has a track record of winning us Test matches in Asia.

However I feel PCB have told him to lie low after that recent scandal, I don't believe this fitness excuse.
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Yasirs last 5fer was Nov 2018 Hes not young himself 36 officially this year

If he can gain his form n actually get overs under his belt id actually consider him but he needs to get back to looking half decent which he hasnt been for the last couple of years
 
ElRaja said:
yasir is past it, pbly abt 40 and with his recent shenanigans pbly best to keep him away from the team. the real issue is that there are no decent spinners, not here, not even in domestic, or under 19.

i cant think of any young spinner other than mubasir or abrar to have even made a dent in domestics, and they are miles from test ready.

pak should just play shadab, he wouldnt do any worse on these pitches but at least he has some variation and can contribute with the bat and in the field.
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Then they should atleast get someone who is younger and debut him in the home series..

Sajid and Nauman must be in their 40s and 50s ... Serious age fudging by Sajid khan, does him and Iftikhar look like they are younger than Babar / Hasan / Faheem and Nawaz..
 
Failure of Sajod Khan against good players of off spin was expected . Sajid is not a classic off spinner like Lyon , he just bowl plain and simple off spin with no variety in his bowling . I have not seen him bowling slider or top spin and no drift. His action is also not a good one for an offie. He will be successful in Pakistan domestic cricket as he turns the ball a lot and domestic batters are not so great agains spin.

He will be a failure against good teams at international level and definitely in SENA. Lets not be fooled by his one time performance against a minnow side recently and bite the bullet and get rid of him.
 
These guys are decent FC bowlers who both had good starts but if anyone can seriously suggest that they are test bowlers then I have to ask them to do some serious research. There is only one left arm spinner bowler with potential and that is Asghar but the guy can't land the ball consistently. Outside that it's a much of muchness.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Then they should atleast get someone who is younger and debut him in the home series..

Sajid and Nauman must be in their 40s and 50s ... Serious age fudging by Sajid khan, does him and Iftikhar look like they are younger than Babar / Hasan / Faheem and Nawaz..
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This age fudging is tragic, makes a real mockery of the team.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Then they should atleast get someone who is younger and debut him in the home series..

Sajid and Nauman must be in their 40s and 50s ... Serious age fudging by Sajid khan, does him and Iftikhar look like they are younger than Babar / Hasan / Faheem and Nawaz..
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i would agree with you, but there isnt anyone. even in t20 apart from shadab there arent any young spinners, its been an obvious issue for a long time but pcb dont even acknowledge it.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I know Pakistan's performance is making everyone think of who could have been selected instead. But fact is this is a garbage pitch that any bowler would have struggled on. Because Pakistan has won 2 series on these same pitches. The wickets dished out in the last two matches though have been nothing like traditional Pindi or Karachi wickets.

Ramiz Raja needs to be booted out for this remarkable display of incompetence. I hold him responsible for this fiasco.
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Who is he responsible to ?
 
Kroll said:
This age fudging is tragic, makes a real mockery of the team.
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Age fudging is a bigger crime in cricket than we realize , its cheating and should be punished. If there was a WC of fudging we would be beaten finalist to the ultimate champion , our western neighbors .
 
Pakistan had not lost a home test series for 15 years until under captaincy of Inept ramiz raja we lost to sri lankan team of ranatunga in 1995.

Such was the shock our cricket never recovered after that and we lost 6 further home test series under various captains afterwards. But it was started by Ramiz. He is simply not fit for the job and should take the blame of 87 world cup loss as well with his stupid run out in 1st over generated panic in our camp and we lost the semi final.

He is an empty suit just like david cameron of uk. Such people talk very eloquently in public but lack actual depth of technical high responsibility jobs.
 
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They tried to make UAE type wickets low bounce with some turn but it didn’t work now the home team has no chance of winning this test after the first day stick to home style wickets win or lose an entertaining match is what people want.
 
Of the tests Pakistan played in Asia+WI with Yasir Shah, only twice did a team score 500+ and that was in Yasir's 5th and 7th tests. The first instance was the Sharjah Test match vs NZ in 2014 and the second one was 1st test vs Bangladesh(even 3 innings weren't completed in that test)

Yasir has never been a bowler for SNA pitches, but not playing him in Asia is a big big blunder regardless of what his form suggests.

Opponents would be wary of Yasir 10 times more than they would of Nauman and Sajid.

Powerpoint Selector should be held accountable for his out and out antagonistic behavior against Yasir since coming to power.

Ramiz Raja should do less of his PR stunts and interfere less in cricketing matters otherwise he should include himself in the team and captain it as well.

Nauman and Sajid(as of now) aren't going to run through a competent batting lineup.
 
Of the tests Pakistan played in Asia+WI with Yasir Shah, only twice did a team score 500+ and that was in Yasir's 5th and 7th tests. The first instance was the Sharjah Test match vs NZ in 2014 and the second one was 1st test vs Bangladesh(even 3 innings weren't completed in that test)

Yasir has never been a bowler for SNA pitches, but not playing him in Asia is a big big blunder regardless of what his form suggests.

Opponents would be wary of Yasir 10 times more than they would of Nauman and Sajid.

Powerpoint Selector should be held accountable for his out and out antagonistic behavior against Yasir since coming to power.

Ramiz Raja should do less of his PR stunts and interfere less in cricketing matters otherwise he should include himself in the team and captain it as well.

Nauman and Sajid(as of now) aren't going to run through a competent batting lineup.
 
Awful spinner with zero control. Ausdies have realized that he offers no threat so have smacked him out of the park.
 
He got in the team on the back of his domestic performances but sadly he just doesn't have the quality for international cricket and quality teams will have no problems against him given his lack of variety.
 
Both should be dropped after this series Nauman is easier to play if you attack him with little turn and no bounce he wouldn’t last long in international cricket.

Sajid lacks the control variety and potency to be an international spinner.
 
Cric1234 said:
Both should be dropped after this series Nauman is easier to play if you attack him with little turn and no bounce he wouldn’t last long in international cricket.

Sajid lacks the control variety and potency to be an international spinner.
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Both lack variation. if you can only turn the ball one way or have no arm ball, carrom ball, doosra as variety then is easy to negate. That is something Aussies have realized quickly. Plus sajid offers zero control.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Both lack variation. if you can only turn the ball one way or have no arm ball, carrom ball, doosra as variety then is easy to negate. That is something Aussies have realized quickly. Plus sajid offers zero control.
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Nuaman atleast offers control Sajid doesn't offer anything.
 
One would think, that Yasir is a attacking option. May be we can also play Haris as we’ve seen quite less from the rest.

I’d even go with 3 pacers plus yasir and faheem. Remember Yasir can add few runs with the bat. At the moment our tail looks to start straight after Rizwan.
 
Maher96 said:
One would think, that Yasir is a attacking option. May be we can also play Haris as we’ve seen quite less from the rest.

I’d even go with 3 pacers plus yasir and faheem. Remember Yasir can add few runs with the bat. At the moment our tail looks to start straight after Rizwan.
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Nuaman,Sajid,Hassan can bat
 
I guess people have forgotten how Yasir was being devoured by batsmen across the globe for last few years now...gone are the days when he had any sort of control, he now bowls at least 1-2 hit me balls each over and releases any pressure that others might have built up from the other end. Plus anyone seen his tidh, it looks like a mini fridge now with Turkey, gravy and all the extra sides etc.

Unlucky for Pakistan Nawaz got injured right before the series or else he would have been a great edition...personally I think Nauman is an ok bowler, Sajid def has very limited skill or any threat whatsoever.
 
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Give Zahid a chance in the third test. He’s in the team, he deserves a shot over Yasir.
 
An out of form Yasir is better than Sajid. A in form Yasir is better than Numan+Sajid. Sajid is a very average bowler. Performance against Bangladesh on dusty wkt doesn't count. If Pakistan does not fix this issue and bring in Zahid or Yasir in the team, they will miz a great opportunity to win the series in Lahore. I just can''t believe that Pakistan doesn't have a single quality spinner around!
 
We just cant dispose off players after a couple of failures. This way we will have a long list of players who will just be failures.
 
Yasir has not done that badly in Pakistan. Certainly not bad enough to be dropped. Averaging 36 in Pakistan is not especially bad for a spinner because it is not the most friendly country for spinners to begin with.

Even Mushtaq averaged 34 in Pakistan. Kaneria who is Pakistan's highest wicket-taking spinner averaged 32 in Pakistan.
 
Sajid's cumulative figures for this series are 3-320. You can't keep playing a guy that badly out of form.
 
Has everyone really forgotten he tried to save his pedo friend from a rape case?? Literally phone records were released...

People really have a gold fishes memory.. he should be nowhere near the team and infacy should be in jail...
 
Sir-fraz said:
Has everyone really forgotten he tried to save his pedo friend from a rape case?? Literally phone records were released...

People really have a gold fishes memory.. he should be nowhere near the team and infacy should be in jail...
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Wasn't aware of the facts of the case. But if that is so, than he should definitely never play for Pakistan again.

Might be hard to put him in jail over lack of evidence and 'reasonable doubt', but he definitely should not play for Pakistan again because of this.
 
Yasir is in no shape or form fit enough and deserving to be in the team What he did years ago is pointless today We need to look at where is he at now and his current form?

We need to stick with sajid You dont chop and change after a couple of games He needs a decent run before we can decide one way or another So far all the spinners on show have struggled in the series
 
Sir-fraz said:
Has everyone really forgotten he tried to save his pedo friend from a rape case?? Literally phone records were released...

People really have a gold fishes memory.. he should be nowhere near the team and infacy should be in jail...
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Seems like people have as they are clamoring for his return.

He was named in great detail. And evidence. He then vanished while police looked for him. The victim then said his name in the FIR was an accident. How can some detailed account be a slip of the tongue. It's obvious he used his clout. An absolute disgrace is what he is.
 
Sir-fraz said:
Has everyone really forgotten he tried to save his pedo friend from a rape case?? Literally phone records were released...

People really have a gold fishes memory.. he should be nowhere near the team and infacy should be in jail...
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Exactly my thoughts. Seems like it's a non-issue for OP and for those begging for Yasir's return.
 
Pakpak said:
Seems like people have as they are clamoring for his return.

He was named in great detail. And evidence. He then vanished while police looked for him. The victim then said his name in the FIR was an accident. How can some detailed account be a slip of the tongue. It's obvious he used his clout. An absolute disgrace is what he is.
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I didn't know that like the other poster mentioned he should never play for Pakistan again.
 
Sajid Khan did make it to ICC's list!

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