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"Salman Butt is very talented and has served his punishment" : Mohsin Khan

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Chairman of the PCB Cricket Committee Mohsin Hasan Khan speaking on HUM News:

"Pakistan outclassed NZ in the 3rd T20I after two close contests in the first two games. The players are all taking responsibility and fulfilling it. I would give credit to Sarfaraz for speaking to the players and the coaches would have done that too, to tell them to take responsibility and that's what they are doing"

"Our bowling attack is being utilised very well and the fielding has shown a lot of improvement, these small things that we were lacking a few days ago have improved. Batting, bowling, fielding and captaincy, Pakistan is playing professional cricket in all departments"

"In one day cricket, we don't have to do anything. We have to continue the same way in the T20Is where we have a game plan along with determination. I am sure the coaches will give good plans to the captain; there are 2-3 game plans, so that if the first fails then there is backup which can be implemented"

"Fakhar Zaman needs to be told that he doesn't have to play shots on every ball. Look at how Babar Azam is playing, he looks to play the full overs. That's the spirit we need to have. I hope the management will keep this in mind, that the players need to show more patience in the 50 over format. We should forget the T20Is now and focus on the ODIs"

"Salman Butt is very talented and has served his punishment. When one has been inducted in the form of Mohammad Amir then the other two should have also gotten a fair chance. Salman Butt is a very talented batsman, if the England episode didn't happen then it looked like he would become a very good player in future. He was also captain at U19 level and has a very good cricketing sense and plays sensibly. When the committee has a meeting and this is brought up, I will support that if one has been allowed back then why not the others? If Salman Butt is in form and is fit, then why not? Otherwise none of the three should have been allowed back. If he is being punished further then it's injustice if one of the others is allowed back. As for Kamran Akmal, look at how long Misbah played for, he is an example for everyone that if you keep performing, age is not a factor. If you have the fitness and performance then you should get a chance"

"Fawad Alam is capable of representing Pakistan and has done so in the past. He is a very talented left-hand batsman who plays in the middle order and is an excellent fielder and is a useful bowler. I don't understand the reason for him not being selected. Look at how Imad Wasim is becoming a useful player for Pakistan. If you have a similar player in Fawad Alam who is a good all-rounder then why not? Anyone who is deserving and is performing and has no disciplinary problems should be given a chance, for God's sake, when he has been working hard day and night then he deserves a chance"
 
Mohsin Khan is worse than Sheryar Khan ever was. He is the single-handedly becoming the biggest distraction for our team. Hope everyone is ignoring him.

Cant help but blame IK and Ehsan Mani for this. Very disappointing appointment overall
 
Mohsin stooping to new lows everyday. The return of Butt, Kami is eminent. Fawad Alam's bowling = Imad Wasim's bowling??? What?
 
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OH MY GOD MANI. What have you done

Why have you given this nutcase a position like this. Could you not give it to Bazid Khan.
 
Butt is 34 years old, to have him back in the team will mean Pakistan has no other players to select. Moshin Khan can say what he likes but Salman Butt will never play for Pakistan again.
 
OH MY GOD MANI. What have you done

Why have you given this nutcase a position like this. Could you not give it to Bazid Khan.

Bazid would have been a calm and level headed voice of reason.

unfortunately PCB has shot itself in the foot by appointing this petty and vindictive attention seeker.
 
So Mohsin Khan will 'advise' who is and who isn't made captain, he will 'report' on the performance of the coach and will give 'suggestions' as to who should and shouldn't be selected?

:ibutt :danish :genius
 
Mohsin and the limelight is a bigger love story than Romeo and Juliet.
 
This man should be sacked with immediate effect. Ehsan Mani too.

They are making Najam Sethi look like the ultimate professional!
 
Omg, is this guy serious?

What have you done Imran Khan.

Mohsin will probably push for him to be captain.
 
This is getting beyond ridiculous....So this committee with take the team and do the open heart surgery on it?? Just Shut Up MHK:trump .. You want to fix things for pakistan cricket? Go and fix the domestic cricket, go watch some domestic games, see why talented guys are not able to come up the system rather than messing up the team and calling all the corruption back in the team... SHAME ON YOU MHK:sendoff
 
Mohsin Khan is right that if Amir can come in the team then why not Salman Butt? This is the reason I was against the re-selection of Amir in the team.
 
Oh bhai please just stop giving media statements every other day. And don't you dare bring that fixer back.
 
The word 'Shameless' comes to mind (for both Mohsin and Butt as well)...at least Amir accepted his role, took the punishment, and moved on; Butt kept going on and on about his innocence and only accepted his guilt when he had no avenue left to voice his bogus claims or he knew he had or else he has no chance to play cricket!

And whether he was a fraud, criminal or not etc. let's just say that is not considered in here, what is his claim to fame to be considered not only for the team but as a captain; look at his past record when he was at the top of his game, he had an iffy record whenever the opposition was not India or another minnow?
 
Wasn't he criticizing the selection of Amir due to his tainted past? Butt has served his punishment but Amir hasn't? Strange world we live in
 
Oh bhai please just stop giving media statements every other day. And don't you dare bring that fixer back.

He can't, it's not in his remit. But the fact that he's transgressing the lines so often, it's time for him to be sacked forthwith
 
Mohsin Khan is right that if Amir can come in the team then why not Salman Butt? This is the reason I was against the re-selection of Amir in the team.

Because 18 year olds are easily influenced, especially if one is their elder and captain.
 
There are better openers than him in LOI and currently we are giving imam the chance. If he isn't making it this world cup then no point considering him for the next cycle as he will be 39 by next world cup.
In tests we have fakhar imam Azhar and to be honest I think his output will be no better than say an Ahmed shehzad. Probably worth going back to Shan and Aslam depending on how they go in domestic over him in terms to of long term potential
 
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Other than his usual tripe about Salman Butt and Kamran Akmal, why is this guy talking about Fakhar Zaman as if he's the head coach? No one needs your input. Please concentrate on domestic cricket!

God, I dislike this guy more than any other ex-player!
 
Somebody sack this imbecile already...
As for Mani, so far the biggest let down in the history of let downs...

Mani had better pull his act together very soon otherwise he’ll take the prize of the biggest bafoon to head up the PCB and that’s a pretty difficult accolade given the previous incumbents.
 
Always knew Imran has done a blunder.

Why would you sack PCB's best administrator and chairman we ever had? i.e. Sethi?

Just for personal grudges?

Ehsan Mani is a proven failure, certified TTF, multiple times in leading positions but did absolutely nothing.

Now he's doing something and bringing Butt back. Horrible. Height of nepotism by appointing Mani.

Wondering how [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] is gonna defend this.
 
This man is going to destroy all the progress of the last 3 years

Somebody tell him this is not some b-class movie with irritating dialogues in which he is acting. In a couple of days he has made more controversial statements than even Sethi did during his tenure.

Also, whats up with telling Fakhar how to bat? Is he the coach now as well?
 
I warned you all about this three days ago.

Sure, I wanted Salman Butt back as a short-term stopgap in Australia two years ago, but not now, not at his age.

I’m old enough to remember the 1980’s.

Imran was a terrific on-field skipper. But he played favourites - hence the ousting of Qasim Omar - and he is IMHO biased towards posh, educated men (like Salman Butt) and against uneducated street fighters like Javed Miandad or Sarfraz Ahmed.
 
Media reports say that PCB have asked Mohsin Khan to stop making statements to the media.
 
I would add that Imran Khan sees Ehsan Mani as a westernised educated proxy.

And that he distrusts Misbah and Inzamam as too powerful (And pious) and has Mohsin Khan as his cricket-level proxy - a man who owes his reputation in cricket to Imran Khan.

I actually think that Salman Butt has clearly suffered mid-30’s batting deterioration over the last two years, and that the cricketing justification for a recall is gone.
 
To all those who are concerned with MHK's silly statements; let's get behind our team and ask for sanity to prevail. Let's tweet at PCB, Wasim Akram, Misbah and anyone else to stop with this madness. We need to do our part as fans! Let's get eyeballs on this issue and for once give our team a chance to enter a global tournament not amidst chaos but stability.
 
I would add that Imran Khan sees Ehsan Mani as a westernised educated proxy.

And that he distrusts Misbah and Inzamam as too powerful (And pious) and has Mohsin Khan as his cricket-level proxy - a man who owes his reputation in cricket to Imran Khan.

I actually think that Salman Butt has clearly suffered mid-30’s batting deterioration over the last two years, and that the cricketing justification for a recall is gone.

You are reading too much into this, and I doubt that you are fully aware of the dynamics of the country at present.

Cricket is at the very bottom of Imran’s priority list. His hands are full with the problems that he has inherited and the problems that he has created, and Pakistan cricket is not one of them.

The appointment of Mani was as lazy as it gets - he really should have left bygones be bygones and let Sethi continue in his role. He brought an energy to the job that was missing in other PCB honchos.

The latter was relevant, up to date and was fully aware of what he is doing. Mani is archaic, out of touch, has little clout and does not bring any energy to the role.

Imran has nothing to do with the formation of committees and the likes of Mohsin Khan advocating for the comeback of Salman Butt etc. I highly doubt if he even remembers the name of the latter at this point.

Imran’s Sethiphobia has pushed PCB back by 10 years. He was the ideal man to lead the PCB under the current circumstances.
 
Media reports say that PCB have asked Mohsin Khan to stop making statements to the media.

I backed the Mani hiring but including Mohsin Khan (in any capacity) is a massive blunder. No other way to slice it.
 
More than Mohsin Khan's appointment, Ehsan Mani's appointment is the biggest blunder. Najam Sethi was doing a great job as Chairman. You need street smart people at the top who also have the ability to rope in sponsorships. Najam Sethi was good at both.

Sure, Najam Sethi failed at revamping the domestic setup and focused on PSL but you also have to give it to him that he was probably the only guy who could've created the PSL brand. We all saw Zaka Ashraf's ineptness. Mani is similar. He may be a good bureaucrat but that's all about it. He can't get work done.

Although Mani has suggested that he will fix the domestic system and remove departmental cricket, I doubt he has the ability as well as the clout needed to do this. There will be lot of resistance on ending departmental cricket and Mani doesn't have the nuance to get it done. Sethi on the other hand, had he decided to end departmental cricket, would've probably managed it as well. He's one guy who you can't fool around with.

Ehsan Mani is a proper bureaucrat. Expecting things to be dilly dallied in his tenure. Sethi was firm in his conviction and got things done speedily which was the need of the hour.
 
More than Mohsin Khan's appointment, Ehsan Mani's appointment is the biggest blunder. Najam Sethi was doing a great job as Chairman. You need street smart people at the top who also have the ability to rope in sponsorships. Najam Sethi was good at both.

Sure, Najam Sethi failed at revamping the domestic setup and focused on PSL but you also have to give it to him that he was probably the only guy who could've created the PSL brand. We all saw Zaka Ashraf's ineptness. Mani is similar. He may be a good bureaucrat but that's all about it. He can't get work done.

Although Mani has suggested that he will fix the domestic system and remove departmental cricket, I doubt he has the ability as well as the clout needed to do this. There will be lot of resistance on ending departmental cricket and Mani doesn't have the nuance to get it done. Sethi on the other hand, had he decided to end departmental cricket, would've probably managed it as well. He's one guy who you can't fool around with.

Ehsan Mani is a proper bureaucrat. Expecting things to be dilly dallied in his tenure. Sethi was firm in his conviction and got things done speedily which was the need of the hour.

Mani is a pencil pusher at retirement age and we will find out how nothing will get done in his tenure. His appointments have been wrong and I'm sure he's making a whole bunch of other mistakes behind the scenes. Lets hope he does not screw up PSL.
 
To all those who are concerned with MHK's silly statements; let's get behind our team and ask for sanity to prevail. Let's tweet at PCB, Wasim Akram, Misbah and anyone else to stop with this madness. We need to do our part as fans! Let's get eyeballs on this issue and for once give our team a chance to enter a global tournament not amidst chaos but stability.

Provide PCB tweet for us.
 
To all those who are concerned with MHK's silly statements; let's get behind our team and ask for sanity to prevail. Let's tweet at PCB, Wasim Akram, Misbah and anyone else to stop with this madness. We need to do our part as fans! Let's get eyeballs on this issue and for once give our team a chance to enter a global tournament not amidst chaos but stability.

So you want Pakistan to enter a global tournament amidst stability? Thats not how Pakistan does well in global tournaments.
 
Good thing is Mohsin Khan isnt a selector. I think he talks too much, even if he would have been a selector he wouldnt have done the things he is hinting towards neither did he when he was.

He just tries to talk for the gallery, I am pretty sure actual play will be different as he has done these kind of dodges multiple times.
 
Always knew Imran has done a blunder.

Why would you sack PCB's best administrator and chairman we ever had? i.e. Sethi?

Just for personal grudges?

Ehsan Mani is a proven failure, certified TTF, multiple times in leading positions but did absolutely nothing.

Now he's doing something and bringing Butt back. Horrible. Height of nepotism by appointing Mani.

Wondering how [MENTION=1269]Bewal Express[/MENTION] is gonna defend this.

I am not sure about the failure- but certainly the appointment of MHK seems a bit bizarre. I am not sure why we need these committees- he has been given a role and needs to show that he deserves it. As far as Sethi is concerned- he was rewarded for services rendered to the Sharifs, otherwise he had no connection with cricket.
 
I'm glad someone is not shy of speaking the truth. Sarfraz should not be the test captain and Butt has finished his punishment, like Amir did. Well done Mohsin Khan.
 
Agree with everyone on this thread - not a good look for the new 'professional' Mani, Khan era... making NS look way better! Hope they aren't too proud to correct their mistakes... otherwise looking like the same old PCB

On Amir vs Butt - Butt was the planner, the mastermind behind it. Amir was a pawn in his game. Pak cricket is not ready to forgive him, especially since he took so long to finally admit he did it!
 
Yes he has finished his punishment but Salman Butt as captain of the Test team and a player with such an educated and wealthy background should not have put the careers of his under priviliged counterparts at stake by overpowering them through his authority. This for me is unacceptable no matter how you look at it. His interviews after being court were extremely arrogant and he continued to deny his wrong doing for 3 years into his punishment.

Im sorry but this person should never represent Pakistan ever again and Mohsin Khan should know better. The team that appointed him (Imran Khan's appointment Ehsan Mani) removed a supposedly corrupt person who made one of the greatest strides in PCB history (Najam Sethi), so it is on the point of hypocrisy if a convicted criminal captain is reinstated to represent his nation once being caught out.
 
Awesome job Mani sahab. See you at evening tea at the officers room on the south lawn of the Sindh Club
 
Agree with everyone on this thread - not a good look for the new 'professional' Mani, Khan era... making NS look way better! Hope they aren't too proud to correct their mistakes... otherwise looking like the same old PCB

On Amir vs Butt - Butt was the planner, the mastermind behind it. Amir was a pawn in his game. Pak cricket is not ready to forgive him, especially since he took so long to finally admit he did it!

For the record, the evidence is the opposite of what you have written.

Salman Butt was a fringe player in 2010 who suddenly became the skipper in July when Shahid Afridi ran away in mid-tour.

The ICC Tribunal heard evidence that Amir had already been caught with suspicious burner pre-paid cellphones and SMS activity with known matchfixers in the West Indies three months earlier.

Half the team (at least) had behaved suspiciously in 2 Tests in Sri Lanka a year before The Oval and Lords fixes.

All the evidence tendered at the ICC Tribunal was that there was a group of hardcore fixers in the team fixing for criminals.

Asif was definitely not part of that group. Amir and Butt might have been.

But the News of the World scoop was definitely not part of the established fixing, it was a one-off newspaper entrapment scoop, in which the newspaper admitted telling the crooked manager whom it wanted him to recruit to fix.

And it does not explain who fixed the two Tests in Sri Lanka - if they were fixed, which if you read the scorecards is absolutely blatant.

And it does not explain how there is an actual on tape confession by the manager of Amir, Asif and Butt that he fixed the Sydney Test in January 2010, but without Amir in the team and without Asif and Butt playing any role in the fix.

He’s confessed on tape that he fixed a huge Test (which Pakistan list from a position of certain victory). So if Amir, Asif and Butt didn’t execute that fix, who did?

The “Salman Butt was the ringleader” theory has always been lazy and blatantly incorrect.
 
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Agree with everyone on this thread - not a good look for the new 'professional' Mani, Khan era... making NS look way better! Hope they aren't too proud to correct their mistakes... otherwise looking like the same old PCB

On Amir vs Butt - Butt was the planner, the mastermind behind it. Amir was a pawn in his game. Pak cricket is not ready to forgive him, especially since he took so long to finally admit he did it!

I would encourage you and everyone else to:

1. Read the ICC Tribunal Report confirming BOTH that the News of the World scoop was a one-off entrapment case in which the newspaper chose the players to be corrupted AND that real criminal fixers had been using other unidentified members of the team to fix for at least a year.

2. Read the scorecards for the two lost Tests in Sri Lanka in mid-2009, and see which batsmen were involved in absurd collapses.

3. Read the scorecard for the lost Sydney Test in January 2010, which Mazhar Majeed confessed on tape that he fixed with half the team, which did NOT include Amir, Asif and Butt.

Once you’ve done that I can guarantee that you will realise that Amir and Butt’s guilt was minuscule compared with others who remained in the team, and that Asif was actually a victim of the affair.
 
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Meanwhile PCB CM Ehsan Mani has asked MOHSIN KHAN to avoid controversial statements, Board has also started thinking upon a replacement of Mohsin in #CricketCommittee. Earlier Mickey Arthur & Inzamam were said to be unhappy on inclusion of Mohsin as Head of Committee.🏏 #cricket
 
I would encourage you and everyone else to:

1. Read the ICC Tribunal Report confirming BOTH that the News of the World scoop was a one-off entrapment case in which the newspaper chose the players to be corrupted AND that real criminal fixers had been using other unidentified members of the team to fix for at least a year.

2. Read the scorecards for the two lost Tests in Sri Lanka in mid-2009, and see which batsmen were involved in absurd collapses.

3. Read the scorecard for the lost Sydney Test in January 2010, which Mazhar Majeed confessed on tape that he fixed with half the team, which did NOT include Amir, Asif and Butt.

Once you’ve done that I can guarantee that you will realise that Amir and Butt’s guilt was minuscule compared with others who remained in the team, and that Asif was actually a victim of the affair.

Damn... I just went through the scorecards.

That Sri Lankan series was always a fishy one.... What's worse is that it came after a World T20 win.
 
I don't see Butt returning even with this imbecile's backing.
I hope you’re right.

I’d happily have had Asif and Butt in the team from September 2015 to September 2017.

But they are far too old now.

And there is another thing.

Amir and Asif have both fully served their sentences. The ICC views them as 100% rehabilitated, with identical status to Sarfraz Ahmed or even Misbah.

But Salman Butt is still on probation with the ICC, with a suspended sentence which continues until September 2020.
 
I would encourage you and everyone else to:

1. Read the ICC Tribunal Report confirming BOTH that the News of the World scoop was a one-off entrapment case in which the newspaper chose the players to be corrupted AND that real criminal fixers had been using other unidentified members of the team to fix for at least a year.

2. Read the scorecards for the two lost Tests in Sri Lanka in mid-2009, and see which batsmen were involved in absurd collapses.

3. Read the scorecard for the lost Sydney Test in January 2010, which Mazhar Majeed confessed on tape that he fixed with half the team, which did NOT include Amir, Asif and Butt.

Once you’ve done that I can guarantee that you will realise that Amir and Butt’s guilt was minuscule compared with others who remained in the team, and that Asif was actually a victim of the affair.

Damn... I just went through the scorecards.

That Sri Lankan series was always a fishy one.... What's worse is that it came after a World T20 win.

I had the same sickening experience myself.

It was only when I read the ICC Tribunal Report that I realised that the Tests at Galle and Colombo were far beyond “suspicious”. And then you must factor in that Majeed formally confessed to fixing Sydney when he was recorded on camera.

But when you read back through the scorecards, you see who performed badly in those defeats.

And you realise that what you thought was a black and white story might actually have been the other way round.

You realise that the “villains” weren’t even involved in the alleged criminal fixes, they were just caught in a newspaper scam in which their manager was instructed to corrupt them because they were the three famous players whom newspaper readers might have heard of.

And then you look at the three “once in a hundred years” Super Collapses To Defeat, and see who would have had to be involved in the real match fixing.
 
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I hope you’re right.

I’d happily have had Asif and Butt in the team from September 2015 to September 2017.

But they are far too old now.

And there is another thing.

Amir and Asif have both fully served their sentences. The ICC views them as 100% rehabilitated, with identical status to Sarfraz Ahmed or even Misbah.

But Salman Butt is still on probation with the ICC, with a suspended sentence which continues until September 2020.

Besides everything, he isn't exactly setting the domestic circuit on fire with his batting. He averaged in the 20's in the last season of QEA Trophy which is pretty poor even for QEA standards. Even if he somehow manages to come into reckoning he will be very far behind in the pecking order. After Imam-ul-Haq and Fakhar Zaman there's Shan Masood, Sami Aslam and Abid Ali who have all been performing better than him in First Class and getting selected for Pakistan A.
 
This is for all the people who thought it was going to change something. Ik has been out of cricket and doesn't know what he talks about now honestly. Everytime I have seen him commenting it is cringeworthy. He selected a dinosaur, night as well have made misbah the chairman at least he has mba so we know he has some brain power.
 
I think ex cricketers don't know how to say something logically, are they aware of STAR approach :vk2


This statemeny should have been said in this way:
1) Situation : Top order is consistently inconsistent outside asia and against good teams.
2) Task : To find someone who is good at playing outside.
3) Action : We think, Butt has better record and technique outside asia.
 
He is right. If Amir fixer can return and Wasim can work for PCB than Butt shouldn't be held back and given a fair opportunity.
 
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