Sanatan Dialogues: Part 1. How Bharatiyas forgot the ancient art of conjuring celestial weapons

[Bhaijaan]

At the height of Sanatan Dharma, the mightiest warriors and gurus through their years of devotion attained the powers to conjure celestial weapons of immeasurable strength. However such yugas are now gone and in the Kalyuga we humans have become weak, greedy, dishonest and hence not even the best of us have the same abilities anymore.


However, to lose access to such substantial power is not just a loss to Sanatanis but the world itself as in the right hands such cosmic weapons could help protect earth from unfriendly
interstellar powers or during our own voyages in the future.

At the peak of their scientific advancements even the Nazis, Americans, Russians read Hindu scriptures to unravel the mystery of the cosmic weapons. This is what ultimately lead to the vision and creation of the atomic bomb as admitted by its developer Oppenheimer in his famous speech where he quotes Bhagwad Geeta - “ Now i have become death, the destroyer of worlds.”

In Hindu mythology, celestial weapons, known as Astras, were divine, powerful weapons wielded by gods, demigods, and legendary heroes. Each weapon is associated with a deity and often carries immense destructive power. Here are some of the greatest celestial weapons in Hinduism:

1. Brahmastra
- Associated Deity: Brahma
- Description: The Brahmastra is one of the most powerful weapons, capable of destroying entire civilizations. It is said to never fail and is often used as a last resort due to its devastating effects.


2. Pashupatastra
- Associated Deity: Shiva
- Description: This is Shiva’s most powerful weapon and is capable of destroying the entire universe. It can be used in various ways—through the mind, eyes, words, or a bow.

3. Vajra
- Associated Deity: Indra
- Description: The Vajra, made from the bones of the sage Dadhichi, is a thunderbolt weapon wielded by Indra, the king of gods. It is known for its ability to strike with immense force, symbolizing both indestructibility and power.

4. Sudarshana Chakra
- Associated Deity: Vishnu
- Description: This divine spinning disk, wielded by Vishnu, is known for its ability to slice through anything. It always returns to its owner after being thrown and is considered a symbol of dharma.

5. Trishula
- Associated Deity: Shiva
- Description: Shiva’s trident represents the three fundamental aspects of existence: creation, preservation, and destruction. It is a powerful weapon that can obliterate evil forces.

6. Narayanastra
- Associated Deity: Vishnu
- Description: This weapon fires a volley of millions of missiles at the enemy. The more the opponent resists, the stronger the weapon’s power grows. It can only be stopped by complete surrender.

7. Agneyastra
- Associated Deity: Agni (the god of fire)
- Description: This weapon releases a torrent of fire, engulfing everything in its path. It is capable of burning entire armies and cities.

8. Varunastra
- Associated Deity: Varuna (the god of water)
- Description: This water-based weapon can release massive floods, capable of drowning enemies and submerging landscapes.

9. Brahmashira
- Associated Deity: Brahma
- Description: A more powerful version of the Brahmastra, the Brahmashira is said to be four times more potent. It can destroy entire planets and was used only in extreme cases.

10. Shakti
- Associated Deity: Durga
- Description: Shakti is a spear-like weapon often associated with goddess Durga. It is known for its unstoppable power and was used by legendary warriors like Karna.


These celestial weapons are not just tools of war; they often symbolize deeper aspects of divine power, dharma (righteousness), and cosmic order.

 

[Hikaru]

What a read. As a cow-hearted Sanatani I was never really into 𝘚𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢-𝘝𝘪𝘥𝘺𝘢, but this thread is rather enlightening Bhaijaan. Never knew about ancient Bharat 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘴 in such details. Please recommend some good books on the topic.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Instead of spending so much on nuclear weapons India should quietly assemble an army of spiritualists to try and one again assemble these weapons.

Option 1 and 2 are too extreme and we shouldn't even try to go down that road incase it backfires but some Narayanastra in the right hands would be very helpful.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Instead of spending so much on nuclear weapons India should quietly assemble an army of spiritualists to try and one again assemble these weapons.

Option 1 and 2 are too extreme and we shouldn't even try to go down that road incase it backfires but some Narayanastra in the right hands would be very helpful.

The thing about astras is that they were never given with the intention to attack the weak but for the deserving to be able to protect Dharma from
Adharmis.

When Ashwathama, son of Guru Dronacharya used the Brahmastra to attack Uttara’s womb so that he could end the line of Pandavas, Sri Krishna himself cursed him with immortality.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

At the height of Sanatan Dharma, the mightiest warriors and gurus through their years of devotion attained the powers to conjure celestial weapons of immeasurable strength. However such yugas are now gone and in the Kalyuga we humans have become weak, greedy, dishonest and hence not even the best of us have the same abilities anymore.


However, to lose access to such substantial power is not just a loss to Sanatanis but the world itself as in the right hands such cosmic weapons could help protect earth from unfriendly
interstellar powers or during our own voyages in the future.

At the peak of their scientific advancements even the Nazis, Americans, Russians read Hindu scriptures to unravel the mystery of the cosmic weapons. This is what ultimately lead to the vision and creation of the atomic bomb as admitted by its developer Oppenheimer in his famous speech where he quotes Bhagwad Geeta - “ Now i have become death, the destroyer of worlds.”

In Hindu mythology, celestial weapons, known as Astras, were divine, powerful weapons wielded by gods, demigods, and legendary heroes. Each weapon is associated with a deity and often carries immense destructive power. Here are some of the greatest celestial weapons in Hinduism:

1. Brahmastra
- Associated Deity: Brahma
- Description: The Brahmastra is one of the most powerful weapons, capable of destroying entire civilizations. It is said to never fail and is often used as a last resort due to its devastating effects.


2. Pashupatastra
- Associated Deity: Shiva
- Description: This is Shiva’s most powerful weapon and is capable of destroying the entire universe. It can be used in various ways—through the mind, eyes, words, or a bow.

3. Vajra
- Associated Deity: Indra
- Description: The Vajra, made from the bones of the sage Dadhichi, is a thunderbolt weapon wielded by Indra, the king of gods. It is known for its ability to strike with immense force, symbolizing both indestructibility and power.

4. Sudarshana Chakra
- Associated Deity: Vishnu
- Description: This divine spinning disk, wielded by Vishnu, is known for its ability to slice through anything. It always returns to its owner after being thrown and is considered a symbol of dharma.

5. Trishula
- Associated Deity: Shiva
- Description: Shiva’s trident represents the three fundamental aspects of existence: creation, preservation, and destruction. It is a powerful weapon that can obliterate evil forces.

6. Narayanastra
- Associated Deity: Vishnu
- Description: This weapon fires a volley of millions of missiles at the enemy. The more the opponent resists, the stronger the weapon’s power grows. It can only be stopped by complete surrender.

7. Agneyastra
- Associated Deity: Agni (the god of fire)
- Description: This weapon releases a torrent of fire, engulfing everything in its path. It is capable of burning entire armies and cities.

8. Varunastra
- Associated Deity: Varuna (the god of water)
- Description: This water-based weapon can release massive floods, capable of drowning enemies and submerging landscapes.

9. Brahmashira
- Associated Deity: Brahma
- Description: A more powerful version of the Brahmastra, the Brahmashira is said to be four times more potent. It can destroy entire planets and was used only in extreme cases.

10. Shakti
- Associated Deity: Durga
- Description: Shakti is a spear-like weapon often associated with goddess Durga. It is known for its unstoppable power and was used by legendary warriors like Karna.


These celestial weapons are not just tools of war; they often symbolize deeper aspects of divine power, dharma (righteousness), and cosmic order.



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Great read. We collectively lost the knowledge but we should still keep learning and be on the path of Dharma.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The thing about astras is that they were never given with the intention to attack the weak but for the deserving to be able to protect Dharma from
Adharmis.

When Ashwathama, son of Guru Dronacharya used the Brahmastra to attack Uttara’s womb so that he could end the line of Pandavas, Sri Krishna himself cursed him with immortality.

It’s also the basic teaching and principle of Sanatan Dharma. To never attack unless need arises for the sake of protection. Deterrence rather domination has always been Hinduism’s fundamental principle.

However there have always been people who were swayed by dark powers and left the path of Dharma.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Option 1 and 2 are too extreme and we shouldn't even try to go down that road incase it backfires but some Narayanastra in the right hands would be very helpful.

The Narayanastra is indeed one of the most fascinating of the cosmic weapons in the Sanatanverse.

The fact that it can only be stopped by complete surrender means it is harmless if the opponent shows no resistance and accepts defeat.
Forgiveness is an essential part of Sanatan dharma.

 

[Hikaru]

The Narayanastra is indeed one of the most fascinating of the cosmic weapons in the Sanatanverse.

The fact that it can only be stopped by complete surrender means it is harmless if the opponent shows no resistance and accepts defeat.
Forgiveness is an essential part of Sanatan dharma.

Reminds me of Gogeta's Stardust Breaker. Amazing how even some of the most iconic anime found inspiration in Sanatan.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The Narayanastra is indeed one of the most fascinating of the cosmic weapons in the Sanatanverse.

The fact that it can only be stopped by complete surrender means it is harmless if the opponent shows no resistance and accepts defeat.
Forgiveness is an essential part of Sanatan dharma.

Reminds me of Gogeta's Stardust Breaker. Amazing how even the most iconic anime found inspiration in Sanatan.

The Narayanastra was famously used during the Kurukshetra war in Mahabharat.

After the fall of his father Dronacharya, Ashwatthama was filled with rage and sorrow. Determined to destroy the Pandavas and avenge his father's death, he decided to use the Narayanastra, a weapon gifted to him by Lord Vishnu.

When Ashwatthama invoked the Narayanastra, it launched countless fiery arrows and missiles towards the Pandava army. The intensity of the weapon was so great that the skies darkened, and it appeared as if the whole world was being consumed by fire. Each missile was aimed with precise destructive power, capable of wiping out anyone who resisted.



Lord Krishna, knowing the nature of the Narayanastra, immediately advised the Pandavas and their army to surrender their weapons and lie down on the ground in complete submission. Krishna explained that the Narayanastra would target anyone who continued to resist, but it would spare those who showed humility and ceased fighting.

The Pandavas, trusting Krishna's wisdom, immediately laid down their arms and prostrated themselves. Their army followed suit, and the missiles of the Narayanastra passed over them without causing harm.

However, Bhima, known for his warrior spirit and unwilling to back down from a fight, refused to surrender. He kept resisting the weapon, and the Narayanastra focused all its power on him. But thanks to Krishna’s intervention and the efforts of Arjuna, Bhima was eventually convinced to stop fighting and lay down, thus saving himself from the weapon's wrath.


In the image depiction below, the Pandavas are seen bowing to the Narayanastra as per advise of Sri Krishna.

 

[Hikaru]

The Narayanastra was famously used during the Kurukshetra war in Mahabharat.

After the fall of his father Dronacharya, Ashwatthama was filled with rage and sorrow. Determined to destroy the Pandavas and avenge his father's death, he decided to use the Narayanastra, a weapon gifted to him by Lord Vishnu.

When Ashwatthama invoked the Narayanastra, it launched countless fiery arrows and missiles towards the Pandava army. The intensity of the weapon was so great that the skies darkened, and it appeared as if the whole world was being consumed by fire. Each missile was aimed with precise destructive power, capable of wiping out anyone who resisted.



Lord Krishna, knowing the nature of the Narayanastra, immediately advised the Pandavas and their army to surrender their weapons and lie down on the ground in complete submission. Krishna explained that the Narayanastra would target anyone who continued to resist, but it would spare those who showed humility and ceased fighting.

The Pandavas, trusting Krishna's wisdom, immediately laid down their arms and prostrated themselves. Their army followed suit, and the missiles of the Narayanastra passed over them without causing harm.

However, Bhima, known for his warrior spirit and unwilling to back down from a fight, refused to surrender. He kept resisting the weapon, and the Narayanastra focused all its power on him. But thanks to Krishna’s intervention and the efforts of Arjuna, Bhima was eventually convinced to stop fighting and lay down, thus saving himself from the weapon's wrath.


In the image depiction below, the Pandavas are seen bowing to the Narayanastra as per advise of Sri Krishna.

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That's just beautiful, even with all its destructive potential, the weapon still peeked inside the hearts of the victim to see if mercy was still an option. Something so unbelievably strong, yet so gentle and forgiving.

𝘕𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘺𝘢𝘯𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢 indeed is a true representation of Sanatan. My favorite so far. <3

 

[Bhaijaan]

That's just beautiful, even with all its destructive potential, the weapon still peeked inside the hearts of the victim to see if mercy was still an option. Something so unbelievably strong, yet so gentle and forgiving.

𝘕𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘺𝘢𝘯𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢 indeed is a true representation of Sanatan. My favorite so far. <3

Indeed it’s beautiful.

This kind of technology doesn’t exist today. Which weapon today once fired can go back to its wielder after seeing the intended targets submitted and asked for mercy.

I wish this knowledge, this technology was passed down to our generations. It would have helped save countless life throughout history.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indeed it’s beautiful.

This kind of technology doesn’t exist today. Which weapon today once fired can go back to its wielder after seeing the intended targets submitted and asked for mercy.

I wish this knowledge, this technology was passed down to our generations. It would have helped save countless life throughout history.

Why doesn’t it exist today ?

The new avengers movie needs new weapons

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The Narayanastra was famously used during the Kurukshetra war in Mahabharat.

After the fall of his father Dronacharya, Ashwatthama was filled with rage and sorrow. Determined to destroy the Pandavas and avenge his father's death, he decided to use the Narayanastra, a weapon gifted to him by Lord Vishnu.

When Ashwatthama invoked the Narayanastra, it launched countless fiery arrows and missiles towards the Pandava army. The intensity of the weapon was so great that the skies darkened, and it appeared as if the whole world was being consumed by fire. Each missile was aimed with precise destructive power, capable of wiping out anyone who resisted.



Lord Krishna, knowing the nature of the Narayanastra, immediately advised the Pandavas and their army to surrender their weapons and lie down on the ground in complete submission. Krishna explained that the Narayanastra would target anyone who continued to resist, but it would spare those who showed humility and ceased fighting.

The Pandavas, trusting Krishna's wisdom, immediately laid down their arms and prostrated themselves. Their army followed suit, and the missiles of the Narayanastra passed over them without causing harm.

However, Bhima, known for his warrior spirit and unwilling to back down from a fight, refused to surrender. He kept resisting the weapon, and the Narayanastra focused all its power on him. But thanks to Krishna’s intervention and the efforts of Arjuna, Bhima was eventually convinced to stop fighting and lay down, thus saving himself from the weapon's wrath.


In the image depiction below, the Pandavas are seen bowing to the Narayanastra as per advise of Sri Krishna.

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Very interesting text bro but the image is depicting something else. The text is Persian and style appears to be Mughal.

 

[Hikaru]

Why doesn’t it exist today ?

The new avengers movie needs new weapons

Such powers are invoked from God brother, and to be honest even I don't know the answer. Have us humans sinned too much? Are we so corrupt that God wouldn't trust us now with his/her powers?

We may never really know the answer, but imagine Sanatan and Islam coming together in future. Sanatan's cosmic technology with Islam's long lost ability for miracles and splitting planets/moon.

Far fetched, but an alliance of dreams. We could save the planet together for an eternity.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Very interesting text bro but the image is depicting something else. The text is Persian and style appears to be Mughal.

Google lens is your friend. @Bhaijaan is likely right about this image.

It is an artistic depiction of that story from the 16th century Mughal era . And Persian was the court language

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Google lens is your friend. @Bhaijaan is likely right about this image.

It is an artistic depiction of that story from the 16th century Mughal era . And Persian was the court language

Hmm perhaps I was swayed by the posts here about the evil and oppressive Mughal. But if the painting is commissioned by them it just shows the tolerance and open mindedness of the era.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Hmm perhaps I was swayed by the posts here about the evil and oppressive Mughal. But if the painting is commissioned by them it just shows the tolerance and open mindedness of the era.

One of those quirks and ironies of history. Ranjit Singh's Sikh empire was probably the greatest in both sides of the Punjab but I don't think most Muslims look at it particularly fondly

 

[Bhaijaan]

Hmm perhaps I was swayed by the posts here about the evil and oppressive Mughal. But if the painting is commissioned by them it just shows the tolerance and open mindedness of the era.

Bharat’s diversity is unique. Even today you will come across artists who made Hindu diety idols with their own hands and have more knowledge about them than an ordinary Hindu.

 

[gani999]

India's ancient gurus weren't above arrogance and insecurity, all that intelligence notwithstanding. For the most part, there was no documentation and knowledge was passed by word of mouth or practice in ancient India. The gurus would not transmit all their knowledge to their disciples. They were afraid that their underlings would become their equals if they did that, and would stop respecting them. A guru would teach only 90% of what he knew, and would keep the important 10% to himself. With little documentation, this would be mostly gone when the guru passed away.
By the time people started documenting things, most of our important knowledge was lost forever. This is particularly true about ayurveda, which has been reduced to little more than mere quackery and placebo effect now. Other disciplines must have suffered similar fates.

I can't stand brahminical arrogance. And I'm a brahmin myself, so I know what I'm talking about.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India's ancient gurus weren't above arrogance and insecurity, all that intelligence notwithstanding. For the most part, there was no documentation and knowledge was passed by word of mouth or practice in ancient India. The gurus would not transmit all their knowledge to their disciples. They were afraid that their underlings would become their equals if they did that, and would stop respecting them. A guru would teach only 90% of what he knew, and would keep the important 10% to himself. With little documentation, this would be mostly gone when the guru passed away.
By the time people started documenting things, most of our important knowledge was lost forever. This is particularly true about ayurveda, which has been reduced to little more than mere quackery and placebo effect now. Other disciplines must have suffered similar fates.

I can't stand brahminical arrogance. And I'm a brahmin myself, so I know what I'm talking about.

Tbh it's probably a good thing that they didn't pass down the secrets for these weapons.

Handling WMDs in the modern age is hard enough.

 

[Bhaijaan]

India's ancient gurus weren't above arrogance and insecurity, all that intelligence notwithstanding. For the most part, there was no documentation and knowledge was passed by word of mouth or practice in ancient India. The gurus would not transmit all their knowledge to their disciples. They were afraid that their underlings would become their equals if they did that, and would stop respecting them. A guru would teach only 90% of what he knew, and would keep the important 10% to himself. With little documentation, this would be mostly gone when the guru passed away.
By the time people started documenting things, most of our important knowledge was lost forever. This is particularly true about ayurveda, which has been reduced to little more than mere quackery and placebo effect now. Other disciplines must have suffered similar fates.

I can't stand brahminical arrogance. And I'm a brahmin myself, so I know what I'm talking about.

A good Guru leaves some part of the education a mystery for the brightest disciples to unravel. Spoon-feeding everything is not a sign of a great teacher. The greatest guru shows you the way, tells you how to think the unthinkable, how to see the unseen. Imagine if they wrote down to the minutest details the ways to attain celestial astras like the Brahmashira and if such writings went in the wrong hands or a wrong interstellar species.

 

[gani999]

A good Guru leaves some part of the education a mystery for the brightest disciples to unravel. Spoon-feeding everything is not a sign of a great teacher. The greatest guru shows you the way, tells you how to think the unthinkable, how to see the unseen. Imagine if they wrote down to the minutest details the ways to attain celestial astras like the Brahmashira and if such writings went in the wrong hands or a wrong interstellar species.

For effective transmission, documentation is most important. Good documentation points people in the right direction, so they can figure out the rest. It does not have to be written down in minutest detail. The problem with India's ancient knowledge is that there has been no documentation a all for the most part.
And the fact that most of the ancient knowledge is lost only shows how 'good and great' our ancient gurus were and how much they taught their disciples how to 'think the unthinkable'.

 

[gani999]

Tbh it's probably a good thing that they didn't pass down the secrets for these weapons.

Handling WMDs in the modern age is hard enough.

Once you decide to disseminate knowledge, you have no control over how it will be used. So either disseminate everything or nothing at all. Half or 90% knowledge is very dangerous.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Cinematic depiction of Suryaputra , Kuntiputra Mahavir Karna using a cosmic weapon against Gandeevadhari Kuntiputra Mahavir Arjun in the battle of Mahabharata. One of the most epic battles and display of cosmic weaponry against two equally matched great warriors.

 

[dubeTheGoat]

Not to disrespect , but we would need definite proof instead of scriptures in order to truly know their existence and power. If such weaponry truly existed, I find it extremely hard to believe that the Earth would truly stay intact.

 

[gani999]

Not to disrespect , but we would need definite proof instead of scriptures in order to truly know their existence and power. If such weaponry truly existed, I find it extremely hard to believe that the Earth would truly stay intact.

And where would that proof come from? From the documentation. And this was never done.
If it isn't documented, it never happened.

 

[dubeTheGoat]

And where would that proof come from? From the documentation. And this was never done.
If it isn't documented, it never happened.

Yes but surely, there must have been remnants of some of these weapons or atleast the constituents that are used in the weapons. Making such incredible claims require proof without with, it seems just stories. Losing knowledge over the course of time seems natural but such a scale of loss of knowledge is beyond any reason or explanation.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not to disrespect , but we would need definite proof instead of scriptures in order to truly know their existence and power. If such weaponry truly existed, I find it extremely hard to believe that the Earth would truly stay intact.

Have you tried Google ?

Hindus invented internet 9,000 years ago, Indian minister says

A minister in India’s ruling party has claimed that the internet was invented by Hindus more than 9,000 years ago in the latest example of nationalists laying claim to western inventions.Putting the achievements of Sir Tim Berners-Lee, Vinton Cerf and Robert Kahn firmly in their place, Biplab Kuma

www.thetimes.com

 

[IndoorCricket]

Yes but surely, there must have been remnants of some of these weapons or atleast the constituents that are used in the weapons. Making such incredible claims require proof without with, it seems just stories. Losing knowledge over the course of time seems natural but such a scale of loss of knowledge is beyond any reason or explanation.

Researchers find proof of ancient ‘atomic war’ a great many years prior

Did our old precursors have very trend-setting innovation matching the atomic abilities of today? There is proof from remnants in India supporting that guarantee. There are additionally antiquated fantasies, which depict scenes coordinating our cutting...

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Champ_Pal]

No evidence of any of these so called weapons ever existing in India. Its all part of mythology.

 

[anikrc1]

Researchers find proof of ancient ‘atomic war’ a great many years prior

Did our old precursors have very trend-setting innovation matching the atomic abilities of today? There is proof from remnants in India supporting that guarantee. There are additionally antiquated fantasies, which depict scenes coordinating our cutting...

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Where did this research get published?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Dear All,
You are requested to kindly take utmost care in not hurting the religious sentiments of your fellow posters.

The purpose of this discussion is not to prove superiority of one religion over another or to disrespect any religion or to compare them.

If you do not believe in Hinduism, you are free to not participate in this discussion.

But if you come here with an intention to hurt religious sentiments of any community, your post will be reported.

Thanks for your support

 

[anikrc1]

Dear All,
You are requested to kindly take utmost care in not hurting the religious sentiments of your fellow posters.

The purpose of this discussion is not to prove superiority of one religion over another or to disrespect any religion or to compare them.

If you do not believe in Hinduism, you are free to not participate in this discussion.

But if you come here with an intention to hurt religious sentiments of any community, your post will be reported.

Thanks for your support

If you try to pass mythology as history, we have every right to question you.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Where did this research get published?

in the mahabarata

Researchers find proof of ancient ‘atomic war’ a great many years prior

Did our old precursors have very trend-setting innovation matching the atomic abilities of today? There is proof from remnants in India supporting that guarantee. There are additionally antiquated fantasies, which depict scenes coordinating our cutting...

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Wow Hindus did the first nuclear attack?

There goes the peaceful religion facade.

 

[dubeTheGoat]

Researchers find proof of ancient ‘atomic war’ a great many years prior

Did our old precursors have very trend-setting innovation matching the atomic abilities of today? There is proof from remnants in India supporting that guarantee. There are additionally antiquated fantasies, which depict scenes coordinating our cutting...

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

"All things considered, different researchers have refuted these discoveries with proof recommending that the bodies found at Mohenjo-Daro were entire of a mass grave of the sloppiest, most contemptuous kind.
Some have noticed that the straightforward mud-block structures ought to have effectively been obliterated by an atomic impact, while a portion of those structures stayed remaining at tallness of 15 feet."

The article itself contradicts the claim. Multiple other researchers have refuted it.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Dear All,
You are requested to kindly take utmost care in not hurting the religious sentiments of your fellow posters.

The purpose of this discussion is not to prove superiority of one religion over another or to disrespect any religion or to compare them.

If you do not believe in Hinduism, you are free to not participate in this discussion.

But if you come here with an intention to hurt religious sentiments of any community, your post will be reported.

Thanks for your support

After devastating weapons cease to exist , then came the more powerful invention of moderation.

 

[KingKhanWC]

in the mahabarata
Wow Hindus did the first nuclear attack?

There goes the peaceful religion facade.

“Afterward, the old remnants of Harappa toward the north and Mohenjo-Daro toward the west were uncovered in Pakistan, where proof of an atomic blast going back a great many years prior was found.”

They nuked Pakistan 2500 years ago

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Ancient Indians were advanced in mathematics,science and architecture. Look at some of the temples especially South India.

So I'm intrigued by what he posted on the weapons

 

[JaDed]

Sometimes I think people of India were more scientific in their thoughts 2000 years ago, internet did nothing for us

 

[HalBass9]

Any religion which forces people to convert by hook or crook, by deception or by violence is a cult evil ideology. The whole concept of forcing people to convert signifies a Cult. It can be any religion. But Santana is path to Dharma and even our Sikh Gurus taught to protect this way of life and fight against evil.

Over 1.8 billion Muslims have neither converted you nor harmed you in any way.

Meanwhile, in India, some followers of Dharma and Sanatana traditions have engaged in violence over matters such as eating beef.

It must be difficult for you to encounter anyone who is Muslim. I hope you're still living in India, otherwise, it might feel emotionally challenging for you to navigate such encounters daily.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

And one Sikh dude is seriously islamophobic, that’s another benefit of this thread. Lol we know who they are now

What kind of phobia is going on here!!! Two kids were killed because they did not convert. This ideology still lives on today.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Ancient Indians were advanced in mathematics,science and architecture. Look at some of the temples especially South India.

So I'm intrigued by what he posted on the weapons

I hope this is a Poe.

 

[Stewie]

Any religion which forces people to convert by hook or crook, by deception or by violence is a cult evil ideology. The whole concept of forcing people to convert signifies a Cult. It can be any religion. But Santana is path to Dharma and even our Sikh Gurus taught to protect this way of life and fight against evil.

You live in a country with over 200 million Muslims. You think you would still be alive or Sikh or Hindu/sikh hybrid if that were true. Use common sense. Not hindutva sense.

 

[Stewie]

What kind of phobia is going on here!!! Two kids were killed because they did not convert. This ideology still lives on today.

Seriously?
What is this! Artificially generated image from a corner store

 

[JaDed]

Seriously?
What is this! Artificially generated image from a corner store

Naw they are sons of Guru Gobindji, there is a movie on this too- Chaar Sahibzade , it’s like how the tales of Prophet(Pbuh) is for Muslims, similarly this story is for Sikhs.

Not relevant in today’s day ofcourse but for Sikh side of my family it’s extremely relevant to their faith.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Seriously?
What is this! Artificially generated image from a corner store

So you don't know about Sons of Guru Gobind Singh. This image is in many Gurdwaras across Punjab teaching us to fight against evil and never bow our heads to the murderous ways of the cult.

 

[Stewie]

Naw they are sons of Guru Gobindji, there is a movie on this too- Chaar Sahibzade , it’s like how the tales of Prophet(Pbuh) is for Muslims, similarly this story is for Sikhs.

Not relevant in today’s day ofcourse but for Sikh side of my family it’s extremely relevant to their faith.

Which I appreciate and sympathize with their plight but holding billions over a crime of a few is ridiculous, especially when you live in the same country now with millions of them.

 

[Stewie]

So you don't know about Sons of Guru Gobind Singh. This image is in many Gurdwaras across Punjab teaching us to fight against evil and never bow our heads to the murderous ways of the cult.

Bhai, pardon my ignorance, I meant no offense.

My sympathies with you. For the record you won’t see me idolize those actions and those so called “Muslim” conquerors. To me they were tyrants. They don’t stand for my faith.

With that being said, holding a whole community of people based on actions of a few is foolish. If all human beings started to do that, blacks and whites will never have peace and the Japanese and Americans will be engaged in a never ending war.

So consider this a gesture of brotherhood and humanity from me, I apologize if my comments offended you. We are mostly peaceful and cordial people. Being a Punjabi myself, you and I have a lot lot more in common that you think.
Cheers!

 

[BouncerGuy]

I think the thread is getting derailed. Please read the topic of the thread again before posting now.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Bhai, pardon my ignorance, I meant no offense.

My sympathies with you. For the record you won’t see me idolize those actions and those so called “Muslim” conquerors. To me they were tyrants. They don’t stand for my faith.

With that being said, holding a whole community of people based on actions of a few is foolish. If all human beings started to do that, blacks and whites will never have peace and the Japanese and Americans will be engaged in a never ending war.

So consider this a gesture of brotherhood and humanity from me, I apologize if my comments offended you. We are mostly peaceful and cordial people. Being a Punjabi myself, you and I have a lot lot more in common that you think.
Cheers!

Beautiful post.
I believe this is how our people talk to each other in real life.
Politics and human emotions get the better of us at times. But people of South Asia are generally friendly.

 

[Bhaijaan]

The Sudarshana Chakra


One of the most unique and powerful weapons in Hinduism is the Sudarshana Chakra, the divine discus of Lord Vishnu. It stands out for its immense power and significance in various mythological tales.


The Sudarshana Chakra is a spinning, disc-like weapon with sharp edges, often depicted with 108 serrated blades. It is typically shown as hovering around Vishnu's finger, always ready to be deployed with lightning speed.

Known for its incredible speed, the Sudarshana Chakra can travel across the universe within moments. It never misses its target and returns to Vishnu after completing its task, similar to a boomerang.

Divine Origin: According to some versions of Hinduism, the Sudarshana Chakra was created by Vishvakarma, the divine architect, from the dust of the sun. It was later given to Vishnu as his primary weapon to maintain cosmic order and to protect righteousness (dharma).

4. Symbol of Cosmic Power: Beyond being a weapon, the Sudarshana Chakra represents the cyclical nature of time (kalachakra) and the universe, as well as Vishnu’s role in maintaining balance and order in creation.


Use in Hindu Epics:
- In the Mahabharata, Lord Krishna (an incarnation of Vishnu) uses the Sudarshana Chakra on several occasions, such as when he beheaded Shishupala during Yudhishthira’s Rajasuya Yagna.
- In the Vishnu Purana, Vishnu uses the Sudarshana Chakra to defeat powerful demons and restore cosmic balance, making it a crucial weapon in battles between good and evil.

The Sudarshana Chakra is not only a weapon of unparalleled power but also a symbol of protection, justice, and the eternal flow of time in Hindu cosmology.