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Sandeep Lamichhane acquitted in rape case and available for ICC T20 World Cup 2024 selection [Post Updated #89]

RedwoodOriginal said:
Based on what? The word of a convicted rapist?

This isn't CSI. They are not going to discover footage that links him to the crime
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I am not saying anything like you mentioned. I want justice to be as ruthless as it can for these people if they are proven guilty. If Lamichane is proven guilty, i want him to be jailed and banned for life at least.
 
BouncerGuy said:
That could still be a wrong judgement but as I said, if the conviction is right and on-point, than this guys should be jailed for whole life. No excuses here that he is a cricketer he is young etc etc. justice should be hard and ruthless.
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Not really. Courts don't convict people just like that. Especially for a charge this serious. It has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt which it clearly was here. He's a rapist and pedophile and if anything, the punishment is too lenient.
 
BouncerGuy said:
I am not saying anything like you mentioned. I want justice to be as ruthless as it can for these people if they are proven guilty. If Lamichane is proven guilty, i want him to be jailed and banned for life at least.
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You seem to have trouble understanding a very basic fact that he has been proven guilty of the crime. That's why he was convicted.

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Sandeep Lamichhane sentenced to eight years in jail for rape

The bench also slapped Nepal legspinner with a fine of Rs 300,000
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Ive never understood the angle some people take - it's a conspiracy against me and I'll name people who are involved soon.

Like come on man you are in jail guilty of rape if there really was a conspiracy what the hell are you waiting for?

I supported the Scottish stance at the time and I'm glad they did what they did. Going forward there should be a rule that means people facing such allegations and they are credible are dropped from their national sides.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Not really. Courts don't convict people just like that. Especially for a charge this serious. It has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt which it clearly was here. He's a rapist and pedophile and if anything, the punishment is too lenient.
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Wasn’t the victim 18 when she was ‘raped’, how would that make him a pedophile?

I’m not defending him in any way but there’s so many questions to this case.

How did he force her to come to the hotel?

If she wasn’t forced and she had the choice of whether to go to the hotel or not, why did she go?

Usually when someone takes you to the hotel, they’re not taking you there for sight seeing.

Yes, he’s convicted…there’s millions of people around the world that are convicted and released years later after being falsely accused. I’m not saying he’s falsely accused, but when it comes to cases like this where the victim knew what she was getting herself into, then the possibility of being falsely accused increase.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Wasn’t the victim 18 when she was ‘raped’, how would that make him a pedophile?

I’m not defending him in any way but there’s so many questions to this case.

How did he force her to come to the hotel?

If she wasn’t forced and she had the choice of whether to go to the hotel or not, why did she go?

Usually when someone takes you to the hotel, they’re not taking you there for sight seeing.

Yes, he’s convicted…there’s millions of people around the world that are convicted and released years later after being falsely accused. I’m not saying he’s falsely accused, but when it comes to cases like this where the victim knew what she was getting herself into, then the possibility of being falsely accused increase.
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Yes, exactly what I was trying to say. This case has many questions pending. Not every time it is about conviction, sometimes it can all be staged stuff. Lamichane is guilty till now so he is rightfully punished as of yet. Until he is proven innocent, he will be behind bars and should stay there.
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Wasn’t the victim 18 when she was ‘raped’, how would that make him a pedophile?

I’m not defending him in any way but there’s so many questions to this case.

How did he force her to come to the hotel?

If she wasn’t forced and she had the choice of whether to go to the hotel or not, why did she go?

Usually when someone takes you to the hotel, they’re not taking you there for sight seeing.

Yes, he’s convicted…there’s millions of people around the world that are convicted and released years later after being falsely accused. I’m not saying he’s falsely accused, but when it comes to cases like this where the victim knew what she was getting herself into, then the possibility of being falsely accused increase.
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Your questions aren't a whole lot different from those of people who question rape victims. This case went on for about two years. If you want to know more about the details of the case I'm sure you probably can online. But the fact that they found enough evidence to convict their biggest cricket star speaks volumes about what he did. The idea that he was wrongly convicted is quite far-fetched to say the least when all the facts determined by people who examined and investigated the case from the police to the courts say otherwise. This isn't some Tom, Dick and Harry that walked off the street, he's the biggest cricket star to have ever come out of Nepal.

My bad. I was wrong and off by one year when I called him a pedophile. But just because someone is 18, doesn't mean they are mature enough to think for themself. Or not susceptible to coercion and manipulation. Which was reportedly the case here. All you are really doing is victim-blaming.
 

Ex-Nepal Captain Sandeep Lamichhane Acquitted In Rape Case, Available For T20 World Cup Selection​


The Patan High Court on Wednesday acquitted Nepal cricketer Sandeep Lamichhane in the rape case after the Kathmandu District Court sentenced him eight years in jail in January, reports stated. Sandeep is now available for the T20 World Cup squad after he was found innocent. However, Nepal has already announced the 15-player squad led by Rohit Paudel but with the ICC rule of allowing the teams to make changes to their squad until May 25 it is certain that Lamichhane might get picked. According to local media reports, the court found Lamichhane innocent of raping a woman identified as Gushala-26 in a hotel in Tilganga on August 21, 2022.

Senior advocates Ram Narayan Bidari, Raman Shrestha, Shambu Thapa, Murari Sapkota, and Krishna Sapkota presented their arguments on behalf of cricketer Lamichhane, challenging the Kathmandu District Court's verdict that convicted him in a rape case, it said.

The proceedings, which commenced on Tuesday, continued through Wednesday and it all came in favour of the 23-year-old cricketer.

Sandeep has represented Nepal in 52 T20I matches and has taken 98 wickets and will be crucial for Nepal's T20 WC run as they face The Netherlands on June 4 at Texan to begin their campaign.

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The Patan High Court acquitted Nepal cricketer Sandeep Lamichhane in the rape case after the Kathmandu District Court sentenced him eight years in jail in January.
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Nepalese legal system seems worse than Pakistans. Sandeep is a free man and should be allowed to play cricket.

I still think that a person who is alleged to have committed this type of crime should be suspended while the investigation is ongoing.
 
FearlessRoar said:

Ex-Nepal Captain Sandeep Lamichhane Acquitted In Rape Case, Available For T20 World Cup Selection​


The Patan High Court on Wednesday acquitted Nepal cricketer Sandeep Lamichhane in the rape case after the Kathmandu District Court sentenced him eight years in jail in January, reports stated. Sandeep is now available for the T20 World Cup squad after he was found innocent. However, Nepal has already announced the 15-player squad led by Rohit Paudel but with the ICC rule of allowing the teams to make changes to their squad until May 25 it is certain that Lamichhane might get picked. According to local media reports, the court found Lamichhane innocent of raping a woman identified as Gushala-26 in a hotel in Tilganga on August 21, 2022.

Senior advocates Ram Narayan Bidari, Raman Shrestha, Shambu Thapa, Murari Sapkota, and Krishna Sapkota presented their arguments on behalf of cricketer Lamichhane, challenging the Kathmandu District Court's verdict that convicted him in a rape case, it said.

The proceedings, which commenced on Tuesday, continued through Wednesday and it all came in favour of the 23-year-old cricketer.

Sandeep has represented Nepal in 52 T20I matches and has taken 98 wickets and will be crucial for Nepal's T20 WC run as they face The Netherlands on June 4 at Texan to begin their campaign.

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Ex-Nepal Captain Sandeep Lamichhane Acquitted In Rape Case, Available For T20 World Cup Selection | Cricket News

The Patan High Court acquitted Nepal cricketer Sandeep Lamichhane in the rape case after the Kathmandu District Court sentenced him eight years in jail in January.
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CAN lifts Sandeep Lamichanne’s suspension​


The Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN) has lifted the suspension of cricketer Sandeep Lamichhane.

CAN lifted his suspension immediately after the Patan High Court acquitted him in the rape case.

With the suspension lifted, Lamichhane is now allowed to participate in all types of domestic and international matches.

CAN is also intending to send him to the USA and the West Indies for the ICC T20 World Cup 2024. Following the acquittal by the Patan High Court in the rape case, CAN has decided to allow him to play in the World Cup.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) permits participating teams to adjust their initial selections until May 25, which offers a chance for Lamichhane to potentially join the squad.

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CAN lifts Sandeep Lamichanne's suspension

The Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN) has lifted the suspension of cricketer Sandeep Lamichhane. CAN lifted his suspension immediately after the Patan
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YousafTheBeast said:
Wasn’t the victim 18 when she was ‘raped’, how would that make him a pedophile?

I’m not defending him in any way but there’s so many questions to this case.

How did he force her to come to the hotel?

If she wasn’t forced and she had the choice of whether to go to the hotel or not, why did she go?

Usually when someone takes you to the hotel, they’re not taking you there for sight seeing.

Yes, he’s convicted…there’s millions of people around the world that are convicted and released years later after being falsely accused. I’m not saying he’s falsely accused, but when it comes to cases like this where the victim knew what she was getting herself into, then the possibility of being falsely accused increase.
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It shouldn't be as simple.

18 isn't a massive age, legally you're an adult bit are you really?

Even if you tall about a legal standpoint it's not as easy as free will as you're making it out to be.

People can be manipulated at any age. What may look on surface as an 18 year old girl going to a hotel on her own free will could also be psychological manipulation by the perpetrator.

Their so many cases especially on sites like kik and Discord, aka sites that are completly devoid of any moderation and aren't even traceable via IP of people getting trafficked due to a person talking someone into it online.

Humans are the most dangerous, Guillable, Kind, Cruel, emotional, level headed etc etc creatures, people come in all forms, walks, personality, characteristics and sizes.

Not that easy to just say you're 18 and it's going to a hotel so it's not correct.
 
So you're telling me that a rapist who dodged the law in his own country is denied entry into the US?

What a shock.
 

Nepal Cricket Lobbying For Visa Approval of Controversial Spinner Sandeep Lamichhane Ahead of 2024 T20 World Cup​


Nepal said Sunday they had not given up hope on including controversial star Sandeep Lamichhane in their T20 World Cup squad, despite the spin bowler being denied a US visa and the deadline for final squads expiring.

The T20 World Cup begins next Saturday, co-hosted by the United States and West Indies, with Nepal’s first game on June 4 in Dallas.

“We are lobbying the embassy through the Nepal government”, Chatur Bahadur Chand, president of Cricket Association of Nepal, told AFP on Sunday.

Nepal are keen to select Lamichhane, who had his eight-year sentence for rape quashed on appeal this month.

The International Cricket Council said that all T20 World Cup squads had been named by the May 25 deadline.

Any alteration to Nepal’s squad would now require approval from the ICC’s event technical committee.

Nepal will play their first two group games in the United States followed by two in the West Indies.

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Nepal Cricket Lobbying For Visa Approval of Controversial Spinner Sandeep Lamichhane Ahead of 2024 T20 World Cup - News18

Nepal are keen to select Lamichhane, who had his eight-year sentence for rape quashed on appeal this month, as the ICC said that all T20 World Cup squads had been named by the May 25 deadline.
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YousafTheBeast said:
How did he dodge the law, you had faith in their judiciary when he was convicted, why not now after they heard his appeal?
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I think you probably need to open your eyes or learn to read. I said even a country like Nepal convicted this rapist. But clearly I was wrong because their legal system is exactly what you'd expect it to be.

Regardless, he's a rapist who will be treated like one for the rest of his life if he keeps playing cricket.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I think you probably need to open your eyes or learn to read. I said even a country like Nepal convicted this rapist. But clearly I was wrong because their legal system is exactly what you'd expect it to be.

Regardless, he's a rapist who will be treated like one for the rest of his life if he keeps playing cricket.
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What do you mean by "even a country like Nepal"?

Hoe did you judge the legal system in Nepal?
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I think you probably need to open your eyes or learn to read. I said even a country like Nepal convicted this rapist. But clearly I was wrong because their legal system is exactly what you'd expect it to be.

Regardless, he's a rapist who will be treated like one for the rest of his life if he keeps playing cricket.
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Are you saying that because he’s a cricketer, he used his connections to force the judges to overturn the verdict?

If Sandeep had so much power, why wasn’t he able to get a “not guilty” verdict in the initial trial?
 
YousafTheBeast said:
Are you saying that because he’s a cricketer, he used his connections to force the judges to overturn the verdict?

If Sandeep had so much power, why wasn’t he able to get a “not guilty” verdict in the initial trial?
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cricketjoshila said:
How did you know he dodged the law?

And How is US allowed to decide who gets to play in a ICC tournament?

This is a very bad precedence that has been set.
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Listen, I have absolutely no interest in arguing with rape apologists. As far as I'm concerned, he's a rapist and should be in jail right now. I believe the victim and believe that the charges brought up against him initially were completely true. If Nepal cricket have any brains or care about their image in world cricket, they should get away from him. Because he will not be accepted back into cricket as if nothing happened.

If you guys wanna ask questions and continue to defend a rapist, knock yourselves out. Just leave me alone. Because I really donot care about anything that you guys have to say.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Listen, I have absolutely no interest in arguing with rape apologists. As far as I'm concerned, he's a rapist and should be in jail right now. If Nepal cricket have any brains or care about their image in world cricket, they should get away from him. Because he will not be accepted back into cricket as if nothing happened.

If you guys wanna ask questions and continue to defend a rapist, knock yourselves out. Just leave me alone. Because I really donot care about anything that you guys have to say.
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He is a rapist because you said so. Right?
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
Listen, I have absolutely no interest in arguing with rape apologists. As far as I'm concerned, he's a rapist and should be in jail right now. I believe the victim and believe that the charges brought up against him initially were completely true. If Nepal cricket have any brains or care about their image in world cricket, they should get away from him. Because he will not be accepted back into cricket as if nothing happened.

If you guys wanna ask questions and continue to defend a rapist, knock yourselves out. Just leave me alone. Because I really donot care about anything that you guys have to say.
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I haven’t come to any conclusions, I haven’t called him a rapist nor have I said that he’s innocent.

You’ve come to the conclusion that he’s a rapist based on evidence that you haven’t seen, but you put your trust in their legal system until they overturned the verdict.

You believe the victim because she’s a female and she wouldn’t lie? Or, do you know something that we don’t?

Being accused of rape does not make you a rapist.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
I think you probably need to open your eyes or learn to read. I said even a country like Nepal convicted this rapist. But clearly I was wrong because their legal system is exactly what you'd expect it to be.

Regardless, he's a rapist who will be treated like one for the rest of his life if he keeps playing cricket.
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You're a witness to the case? Don't make presupposed decisions. He has been cleared by their courts. Their court is responsible for all those judicial decisions.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Listen, I have absolutely no interest in arguing with rape apologists. As far as I'm concerned, he's a rapist and should be in jail right now.
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This is the problem. You're convinced he's a rapist despite the courts clearing him. Which then begs the question, do you have some evidence to the case which the court doesn't have? Should we align with you take or the court's?
 
RidiculousMan said:
You're a witness to the case? Don't make presupposed decisions. He has been cleared by their courts. Their court is responsible for all those judicial decisions.
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Are you? How do you know he isn't a rapist? It's all about what you believe and I believe he's a rapist.

"The court is responsible for all those judicial decisions" is just about one of the most laughable lines I've ever heard. Are you aware of some of the decisions courts have given throughout history, all over the world?
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
Are you? How do you know he isn't a rapist? It's all about what you believe and I believe he's a rapist.

"The court is responsible for all those judicial decisions" is just about one of the most laughable lines I've ever heard. Are you aware of some of the decisions courts have given throughout history, all over the world?
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I don't believe either because I don't know. How can I know what he has done or not done. But I go by what their courts says. Because otherwise things get more messier.
 
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RidiculousMan said:
I don't believe either because I don't know. How can I know what he has done or not done. But I go by what their courts says. Because otherwise things get more messier.
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Good for you then. I believe the victim.

But the next time you feign "innocent until proven guilty" as an excuse also take some time to recognize how ridiculous of an argument that is. And how you can't blindly apply it to every single case.
 
People really need to introspect.

When he was convicted he is a rapist and courts are awesome.

When he is not guilty, he got away with murder and courts are awful.

Make up your mind about law.

You cant intellectually try to discriminate law based on the result you want.

As per recent turn of events, he is NOT a rapist.

Any one who still considers him one, should file an appeal in Nepal Supreme Court.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
People really need to introspect.

When he was convicted he is a rapist and courts are awesome.

When he is not guilty, he got away with murder and courts are awful.

Make up your mind about law.

You cant intellectually try to discriminate law based on the result you want.

As per recent turn of events, he is NOT a rapist.

Any one who still considers him one, should file an appeal in Nepal Supreme Court.
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Sanity prevails!
 
RidiculousMan said:
I don't believe either because I don't know. How can I know what he has done or not done. But I go by what their courts says. Because otherwise things get more messier.
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So you say that you don't believe anything and then say that you go by what the court says? Do you seriously not see the contradiction in your own statement?
 
Dr_Bassim said:
People really need to introspect.

When he was convicted he is a rapist and courts are awesome.

When he is not guilty, he got away with murder and courts are awful.

Make up your mind about law.

You cant intellectually try to discriminate law based on the result you want.

As per recent turn of events, he is NOT a rapist.

Any one who still considers him one, should file an appeal in Nepal Supreme Court.
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Exactly this.
 
Nepal wanted to select spin bowler Lamichhane, who had his eight-year sentence for rape quashed on appeal this month

The T20 World Cup begins on Saturday, co-hosted by the United States and West Indies, with Nepal's first game on June 4 in Dallas.

The former captain said last week his US visa had been denied, calling the decision "unfortunate".

Chhumbi Lama, central committee member of the Cricket Association of Nepal, said their subsequent bid to push for a US visa had failed.

"There is a slim -- or no chance -- for him to be involved in the World Cup," Lama told AFP.

"The Cricket Association of Nepal had lobbied to the US embassy through different Nepal government agencies, but the visa was denied."

Lamichhane, 23, was once the poster boy for cricket in Nepal, but was not included in the original squad because of the conviction for raping a young woman in a Kathmandu hotel in 2022.

The International Cricket Council said that all T20 World Cup squads had been named by the May 25 deadline.

Any alteration to Nepal's squad would now require approval from the ICC's event technical committee.

Source: France 24
 
He appears to remain a celebrated figure in Nepal

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T20 World Cup: Fans in Kathmandu Protest Against Sandeep Lamichhane's Visa Denial​


A visa denial to Nepal leg-spinner Sandeep Lamichhane has led to protests in Kathmandu. The youths in Nepal’s capital city hit the streets to demand a visa for the cricketer so that he could participate in the upcoming 2024 T20 World Cup.

According to cricnepal.com, people gathered outside the Prime Minister’s building in Baluwatar and also planned to protest outside the US embassy, to create pressure on the authorities for the visa issuance.

Earlier this month, the Patan High Court acquitted Lamichhane in the rape case, overturning the decision of the Kathmandu District Court. Following the court’s ruling, the Cricket Association of Nepal (CAN) lifted his suspension the same day. The chain of events cleared the Nepal cricketer to secure a spot in the World Cup squad. However, his participation took a hit on being denied a US visa on May 22.

Lamichhane took to social media to reveal the news. “And the US Embassy in Nepal did it again what they did back in 2019, they denied my Visa for the T-20 World Cup happening in the USA and West Indies. Unfortunate. I am sorry to all the well-wishers of Nepal Cricket,” he wrote.

The leg-spinner played a crucial role in Nepal’s qualification for the T20 World Cup. He picked up nine wickets in the T20 World Cup Asia Qualifiers, ending the tournament as Nepal’s leading wicket-taker. He delivered in the crucial semifinal match against the UAE with an outstanding spell of 4-1-14-2.

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Youths gathered outside the Prime Minister’s building in Baluwatar, staging a protest against visa denial to Sandeep Lamicchane
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Sandeep Lamicchane achieved a historic feat on Monday, following his two-wicket spell in the T20 World Cup match against Bangladesh in St. Vincent. During the match, Lamicchane became the second bowler to take 100 wickets in T20Is. Prior to this match, he had picked 98 wickets at an average of 12.58 and an economy of 6.29. On Monday, he made his 54th T20I appearance, meaning only Afghanistan's Rashid Khan completed 100 wickets faster than Lamicchane.


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