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Sarfaraz Ahmed scared to bat up the order or not confident of his ability as a batsman?

I would have agreed too if Babar imam and Harris had done wonders.

It's a pathetic that our openers are unable to hit boundaries.
 
Mamoon said:
Wouldn’t have done worse in this situation, but yes if it was him, same people would have criticized him.
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In similar situation Rizwan was striking at 70-80..... there is a difference between striking at 70 and 140.
 
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Plumb said:
comes in at #6 scores 41(32) Yes he missed few boundaries but how come its solely his fault?? the certified AR Imad and Faheem FAILED. HArry FAILED. blame should go to them first
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32(18) became 19(6)
 
In fact, he should be afraid of batting in the lower order. As we saw today, he is not capable of hitting even a single 6 when needed the most. He needs to bat at 4 or 5.
 
Shouldn't have been trying that fancy stuff like moving way outside leg, that's just wasting deliveries.
 
So someone who scores 41(32) is at fault but not the guy who scores 35(44) and has the benefit of hard ball and field restrictions????
 
Syed1 said:
Still was striking at 140.... you are becoming the clown of the forum with each passing day. People point at you and say look at this loser.
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We simply gave away too many runs in last 5 overs, so majority of blame should go to the bowlers. Only Fakhar Zaman made this gigantic chase look good.
 
Couldn't connect with a single shot against the quicks.

Garbage knock from a garbage cricketer.
 
emranabbas said:
I would have agreed too if Babar imam and Harris had done wonders.

It's a pathetic that our openers are unable to hit boundaries.
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Cant afford so many accumulators in modern day cricket. Eng just have one in Root while we have 4 who cant hit when needed.
 
He simply missed too many deliveries. Even if he had collected singles and doubles the match would've been way tighter.
 
It's more cringe worthy that we had to depend on our lower order on a pitch like this. This game should have been finished by our top 4
 
Only 2 fours for Sarfaraz Ahmed when his team needed big shots.

41 off 32 balls!
 
Syed1 said:
So someone who scores 41(32) is at fault but not the guy who scores 35(44) and has the benefit of hard ball and field restrictions????
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Both should be blamed. Sarfaraz though was closer to the target when he couldnt accelerate but Imam also played a poor knock.
 
Syed1 said:
In similar situation Rizwan was striking at 70-80..... there is a difference between striking at 70 and 140. Maybe you need to get your head checked.
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Rizwan also did more in one series against Australia than Sarfaraz in 2 years.
 
Criminal that a guy batting at No. 5 bats till the end of the match and we still lose comfortably.
 
Yeah that's because he is captaining the biggest bunch of match losers in the history of Pakistan cricket. When you have a glorified club level batsman at the top of the order, where as other captains have had absolute gun batsmen in Saeed Anwar and Aamir Sohail opening the batting

You just can't compare win/loss records to make judgements like these. Based on that same criteria an absolutely pathetic captain like Misbah is better than Imran Khan.
 
Chokli said:
32(18) became 19(6)
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Bro he is not a Hitter.. all these years who are our certified All rounders??? Imad and Faheem.

Faheem is a failure of highest level yet we keep banking on him. As I said Sarf did miss few boundaries but I will not blame him for this loss.
 
Harsh.. very harsh on Sarfaraz. I think Babar’s wicket was the turning point but the blame for today’s loss goes all around and more with the bowlers than batsmen. There was no plan in the death overs while England knew exactly what they were going to do..

Today the team lost as a whole and you can’t pick one or two guilty players... but at least they went down fighting..

I still think given the conditions we should have won this after the innings Fakhar played..
 
Plumb said:
Bro he is not a Hitter.. all these years who are our certified All rounders??? Imad and Faheem.

Faheem is a failure of highest level yet we keep banking on him. As I said Sarf did miss few boundaries but I will not blame him for this loss.
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Faheem should not even be in the team but fact of the matter is 32(30) became 19(6) when Sarfraz was at the crease.
 
emranabbas said:
It's more cringe worthy that we had to depend on our lower order on a pitch like this. This game should have been finished by our top 4
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Regular top 4 other than Fakhar dont have the ability to hit.
 
MeanAndGreen said:
Criminal that a guy batting at No. 5 bats till the end of the match and we still lose comfortably.
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It's more criminal that we have club level batsman sucking the life out of the chasing in the power play batting (where it is easiest to score) as if he is playing to draw a test match against Zimbabwe in Faisalabad.

And it's an even bigger crime when Pakistan's Lara, Haris Sohail is batting to out do Gavasker's 30 not out innings against Zimbabwe in the WC.
 
Saj said:
Only 2 fours for Sarfaraz Ahmed when his team needed big shots.

41 off 32 balls!
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Sarfaraz's job was to push for the twos and rotate the strike. Was scoring 8-10 off England's trump card comfortably.

The likes of Asif, Imad and Faheem were there to hit the boundaries. Asif delivered. Imad and Faheem failed yet again.
 
Darkrai said:
In fact, he should be afraid of batting in the lower order. As we saw today, he is not capable of hitting even a single 6 when needed the most. He needs to bat at 4 or 5.
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Yeah batting at 6,7 you have to have some power hitting against fast bowlers.
 
mak36 said:
No criticism for Imad? Keeps failing when it matters.
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Tobe fair to him he has been scoring runs of late.

And he was batting with a skipper who seemed to be playing a Test match.
 
He cannot hit for his life but I don't blame him. He's selflessly pushed himself down the order for the betterment of the team and played to his limits. Imad should have come in before him as well.
 
Saj said:
It's a lot when you have the likes of Sarfaraz Ahmed and Faheem Ashraf at the crease.
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Agreed. And batsmen that can only play on the leg side.

Imad Wasim got out playing a bouncer on the offside trying to pull it to the leg.

Our batsmen want to win a watch playing on one side of the pitch then you can't chase any total like this.

They saw that and they bowled right on the line since none of them get hit a six over extra cover there is no way for us to win.
 
mak36 said:
Sarfaraz's job was to push for the twos and rotate the strike. Was scoring 8-10 off England's trump card comfortably.

The likes of Asif, Imad and Faheem were there to hit the boundaries. Asif delivered. Imad and Faheem failed yet again.
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It might be his regular job but when you are chasing such huge totals you need to push yourself from your comfort zone. Imad and Faheem were mediocre but so was Sarfaraz as he wasted too many balls at crucial stage.
 
MeanAndGreen said:
Criminal that a guy batting at No. 5 bats till the end of the match and we still lose comfortably.
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And we have people defending his knock. Either you die as a hero or live long enough to become a villain. At least he should have tried big shot instead of relying on tailenders.
 
Saj said:
It's a lot when you have the likes of Sarfaraz Ahmed and Faheem Ashraf at the crease.
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It would be a lot for all the batsmen in Pakistan lineup with the possible exception of Fakhar...
 
We had it until the 47th over.

30 of 18 balls. My Goddddddddd what a botch.

We could've made history today and got rid of our 300 hoodoo at the same time.

This will go down as one of the biggest chokes in our history.

Right up there with chasing 350 against India in Karachi 2004
 
mak36 said:
Sarfaraz's job was to push for the twos and rotate the strike. Was scoring 8-10 off England's trump card comfortably.

The likes of Asif, Imad and Faheem were there to hit the boundaries. Asif delivered. Imad and Faheem failed yet again.
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He's a garbage batsman, you're not fooling anyone. Nice try though :))

Let me remind you, 2 x fours in 32 balls.
 
Should come at 5.

That’s where he belongs, where he can milk the spinners.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
He cannot hit for his life but I don't blame him. He's selflessly pushed himself down the order for the betterment of the team and played to his limits. Imad should have come in before him as well.
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Selflessly? No matter where he had batted today would have been a big liability.
 
Saj said:
Tobe fair to him he has been scoring runs of late.

And he was batting with a skipper who seemed to be playing a Test match.
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If Sarfaraz was playing test match, then Imam and Haris were playing another level of cricket where scoring runs is penalized.
 
Saj said:
Tobe fair to him he has been scoring runs of late.

And he was batting with a skipper who seemed to be playing a Test match.
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He scored 41 off 32. What test matches have you been watching?
 
Saj said:
Tobe fair to him he has been scoring runs of late.

And he was batting with a skipper who seemed to be playing a Test match.
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Agreed. Imad has been scoring well and at a good SR of late. It's unfortunate to see some Sarfraz fans turn on him, because their man man has been poor for a long while now.
 
Sarfaraz has played 102 ODIs now, still couldnt get us over the line and batted till the last ball. As a captain you should be inspiring the team
 
waleed88 said:
We had it until the 47th over.

30 of 18 balls. My Goddddddddd what a botch.

We could've made history today and got rid of our 300 hoodoo at the same time.

This will go down as one of the biggest chokes in our history.

Right up there with chasing 350 against India in Karachi 2004
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If the likes of Inzi, Yousuf and Younis with power hitters like Afridi and Razzaq in that lineup couldn't pull it off and that too at home, why are we raising the bar so high with the club level batting lineup at Sarfaraz disposal.
 
Zhasan said:
If the likes of Inzi, Yousuf and Younis with power hitters like Afridi and Razzaq in that lineup couldn't pull it off and that too at home, why are we raising the bar so high with the club level batting lineup at Sarfaraz disposal.
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Afridi didn't play that match.
 
Ofcourse Azhar Ali would've played at a strike rate of 150 if he was captain
 
Titan24 said:
It might be his regular job but when you are chasing such huge totals you need to push yourself from your comfort zone. Imad and Faheem were mediocre but so was Sarfaraz as he wasted too many balls at crucial stage.
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You have to structure a chase, and in order to do that everyone has to play their roles.

It went:

Fakhar and Babar (former hitting, and the latter accumulating)

Fakhar was dismissed so in came another hitter in Asif, so now it's Asif and Babar.

Then Babar was dismissed so in came another accumulator in Haris, so now it's Asif and Haris.

Then Haris got out so in came Sarfaraz as a like for like. Sarfaraz was the only accumulator who actually played his role- i.e. kept pushing for twos, rotated the strike and kept the dot ball % low.

Then Asif got out, and this is where the match turned because the likes of Imad and Faheem failed yet again to provide the much promised hitting ability. Sarfaraz kept doing what he needed to do but the hitter was missing.
 
TBH, I knew the game was up as soon as Fakhar was out. What happened afterwards was typical of the personnel we have lower down and could be scripted so I wasn't really expecting any great innings from Sarfraz. And we didn't get.
 
If Imad or Faheem had clicked then we would not be having this discussion and instead would be praising Sarfraz for shrewd decision to promote Asif above him.

Still ideally Sarfraz should not be in the ODI team and instead some other WK who is a better hitter.
 
topspin said:
He's a garbage batsman, you're not fooling anyone. Nice try though :))

Let me remind you, 2 x fours in 32 balls.
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Here's the reality. Out of all the accumulators today, Sarfaraz was the only one who did his job.

Remind me, how many boundaries did Babar hit?
 
mak36 said:
Here's the reality. Out of all the accumulators today, Sarfaraz was the only one who did his job.

Remind me, how many boundaries did Babar hit?
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32(18) became 19(6) when Sarfraz the great accumulator was at the crease
 
Zhasan said:
If the likes of Inzi, Yousuf and Younis with power hitters like Afridi and Razzaq in that lineup couldn't pull it off and that too at home, why are we raising the bar so high with the club level batting lineup at Sarfaraz disposal.
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Because its always been a case for us. Regardless of what the team and the squad was.

Its a mental thing that goes way back.

It is also a technical thing where your batsmen like to play on the leg side.

Please find batsmen that can also play on the other side of the wicket.
 
Saj said:
Tobe fair to him he has been scoring runs of late.

And he was batting with a skipper who seemed to be playing a Test match.
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Soft runs in lost causes don't mean anything. Stage was set for Imad and he failed in yet another chase.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
He cannot hit for his life but I don't blame him. He's selflessly pushed himself down the order for the betterment of the team and played to his limits. Imad should have come in before him as well.
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Finally, someone who actually understands how cricket works.

p.s. good to see you back.
 
mak36 said:
Soft runs in lost causes don't mean anything. Stage was set for Imad and he failed in yet another chase.
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So 41(32) is match loosing effort but 35(44) with hard new ball and field restrictions is acceptable?
 
Chief Destroyer said:
He cannot hit for his life but I don't blame him. He's selflessly pushed himself down the order for the betterment of the team and played to his limits. Imad should have come in before him as well.
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Wellcome back
 
Chokli said:
32(18) became 19(6) when Sarfraz the great accumulator was at the crease
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Actually Sarfraz was the one that brought it from 49 runs to 32, with Imad hitting a six in thr last ball off the 47th over.

He scored 11 off the first 5 balls off Rashid.

But ofcourse they botched it afterwards.
 
Syed1 said:
So 41(32) is match loosing effort but 35(44) with hard new ball and field restrictions is acceptable?
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Only on PP could people manage to blame Sarfaraz for today :)). The delusion is real!

Just to put this match in perspective, this would have been the second highest run chase in ODIs EVER.
 
mak36 said:
Just to put this match in perspective, this would have been the second highest run chase in ODIs EVER.
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And kaptaan funtastic blew this opportunity because of his inability to play Cricket.
 
Unfortunately he isnt a big hitter and is limited in that regard

Hes never gonna get you a 60 off 30 and hit sixes As was proved today
 
Batted well today, but took the strike too often. Also needs to work on his fitness.
 
mak36 said:
Are you actually stupid?
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Please stop this blind worship. 30 from 3 should have been done with the ease if our kaptaan could bat against pacers other than taking singles. He boosted his knock having expensive over of Rashid otherwise he scored run a ball and failed to hit boundaries when needed. He should have finished the game. If he can't win from this position then he has no business playing as a finisher. He undone all the hard work and hopes of fans. At least he should have tried.
 
Syed1 said:
So 41(32) is match loosing effort but 35(44) with hard new ball and field restrictions is acceptable?
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It is useless to argue with those Sarfraz haters who are busy rationliziing butterfinger Riwan's slow selfish innings to this Sarfraz inning. Rizwan has neither better batting skills nor keeping. Rizwan is a pathetic keeper against spinners while Sarfraz overall keeping is miles better regardless of being far less athelatic than Rijjo.
 
MRSN said:
Please stop this blind worship. 30 from 3 should have been done with the ease if our kaptaan could bat against pacers other than taking singles. He boosted his knock having expensive over of Rashid otherwise he scored run a ball and failed to hit boundaries when needed. He should have finished the game. If he can't win from this position then he has no business playing as a finisher. He undone all the hard work and hopes of fans. At least he should have tried.
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He's only going to lose us more won matches if he doesn't do the honorary thing and drop himself.
 
IAJ said:
Batted well today, but took the strike too often. Also needs to work on his fitness.
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His fitness seemed fine after keeping for 50 overs he ran really well turning ones into two. Good knock considering he is not in full form yet, but does need to bat earlier as he is not a hitter.
Real culprit today we're Babar for not showing more intent, Harris looked out of sort, Imad played I'll advised shot, and Faheem was useless as ever.
Imam played well too.
 
I don't know how can anyone defend his knock, couldn't even hit a six. And as far as Imad is concerned, he is a wannabe Klusener, can't finish games at all.
 
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