Sarfraz Ahmed takes over captaincy - Exciting times ahead, they said

[in_cutter]

Yes..certain Pak fans were looking forward to 'exciting times ahead' once Sarfaraz takes over captaincy. Today we lost to a virtual A side.

Sarfaraz to bring 'aggression' they said. Hafeez promoted ahead of Babar..return of TTF's. It is already apparent that certain selfish seniors are taking control...the way Akmal had a go at Sarfaraz in the outfield..are these the exciting times ahead you were looking forward to??

 

[Pete Rose]

Too soon for this. But yes, the oldies neeed to go.

 

[Rayyman]

This is just one match. Let's see what happens in the future.

 

[Syed1]

One match and the knives are out. I wonder where was this criticism when Misbah and Azhar were floundering our side all the way to number nine in the rankings.

 

[aloo paratha]

One match, chill.

Also I love how everybody is ready to attack Sarfraz after 1 ODI especially when his T20 record stands 7-1

 

[Pete Rose]

While I don't want to troll, there's a lot more to captaincy than looking at body language to determine who would do better. It's a fact of life, everyone has a plan until they are punched in the face - Says Mr Tyson.
Sarfaraz got punched in the face today

 

[Pete Rose]

One match, chill.

Also I love how everybody is ready to attack Sarfraz after 1 ODI especially when his T20 record stands 7-1

I agree it's one match. But his t20 record won't help him here. Hopefully he understands that better than the fans

 

[Pete Rose]

One match and the knives are out. I wonder where was this criticism when Misbah and Azhar were floundering our side all the way to number nine in the rankings.

But Azhar didn't lose to the windies.

 

[Rayyman]

But Azhar didn't lose to the windies.

His team had home advantage.

 

[Syed1]

But Azhar didn't lose to the windies.

He did lose to Bangladesh and Zimbabwe

 

[Runner Up]

I think it wasn't our day. Too early to say anything about him. I am hopeful that our team will come back strong.

 

[Pete Rose]

He did lose to Bangladesh and Zimbabwe

But I expect pakistan to lose to Bangladesh (whom South Africa lost to as well) and who are rated higher than us. No matter who the captain

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's not one match. He was poor leading the Gladiators this year, average in the T20 series and terrible today.

Tactically average atm and mentally weak. Needs to sit down with the coach and work out some plans along with controlling his emotions on the pitch. Screaming at fielder all the time isn't a good sign of leadership.

 

[Pete Rose]

His team had home advantage.

But we were promised there will be a sea change because sarfaraz is aggressive and Azhar lets the game drift blah blah

 

[Syed1]

But I expect pakistan to lose to Bangladesh (whom South Africa lost to as well) and who are rated higher than us. No matter who the captain

Ok... and what about Zimbabwe.

 

[in_cutter]

It's not about it being one match.
I feel sorry for Sarfaraz.

I am willing to bet that he will lose control because of selfish seniors. Today, Hafeez was given full exposure for batting & bowling..Sarf did not look happy in the dug out. At one point, Kamran was gesturing & waving his hands in anger at the captain. And we lost to a WI A side!

 

[Pete Rose]

Ok... and what about Zimbabwe.

Give him time

 

[Rayyman]

But we were promised there will be a sea change because sarfaraz is aggressive and Azhar lets the game drift blah blah

Azhar would've won this game. Calmness is what Pakistan needed in this match; But won't need in every match. Which is why Sarfraz is a better option moving forward.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

1 bad match and again criticism,he is still the best captain available in Pakistan.

 

[Pete Rose]

1 bad match and again criticism,he is still the best captain available in Pakistan.

No that is statistically not correct. He has lost his first Odi as captain. At best you can say, it's too early to judge

 

[Pete Rose]

Azhar would've won this game. Calmness is what Pakistan needed in this match; But won't need in every match. Which is why Sarfraz is a better option moving forward.

I hope he will improve.

 

[Speedster777]

Give him a break this is his first one day match as a captain.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

I think he is too loud. Shouting at players etc. If I was playing in his team I would quickly get annoyed with a Captain like him.

He also panicked quickly and it showed in the rest of the team. You need a calm captain.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

No that is statistically not correct. He has lost his first Odi as captain. At best you can say, it's too early to judge

It was not his first ODI as captain.

 

[in_cutter]

Give him a break this is his first one day match as a captain.

The way he was being hyped though. He could have improvised a bit & not play all of the TTF's?

 

[Pete Rose]

It was not his first ODI as captain.

Did he captain the one against England

 

[Rayyman]

I think he is too loud. Shouting at players etc. If I was playing in his team I would quickly get annoyed with a Captain like him.

He also panicked quickly and it showed in the rest of the team. You need a calm captain.

You either get a calm captain or an aggressive one. Best of both worlds is rare.

What you need with an aggressive is CALM SENIORS. Not loud mouths like Kami who are shouting all over the field and at the captain. The seniors should calm every one down. I'm talking about Akmal, Hafeez and Malik. Need more from them.

 

[Pete Rose]

I think he is too loud. Shouting at players etc. If I was playing in his team I would quickly get annoyed with a Captain like him.

He also panicked quickly and it showed in the rest of the team. You need a calm captain.

It's not all his fault. We heard from top to bottom of the pcb hierarchy that Azhar was 'too nice'. Maybe sarfaraz felt that by shouting he is conveying more passion

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Did he captain the one against England

No,keep guessing.

 

[Hawkeye]

I think he is too loud. Shouting at players etc. If I was playing in his team I would quickly get annoyed with a Captain like him.

He also panicked quickly and it showed in the rest of the team. You need a calm captain.

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

 

[Speedster777]

The way he was being hyped though. He could have improvised a bit & not play all of the TTF's?

He has too many passengers in the team. Wahab, Shehzad, Akmal and Hafeez are match losers.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

You either get a calm captain or an aggressive one. Best of both worlds is rare.

What you need with an aggressive is CALM SENIORS. Not loud mouths like Kami who are shouting all over the field and at the captain. The seniors should calm every one down. I'm talking about Akmal, Hafeez and Malik. Need more from them.

Aggressive is not shouting and screaming. Showing emotions and running to bowlers to give advice after every 4 or 6 is hit. Aggressive is like Big Mac. You don't see him shouting and changing field after every ball. Scolding fielders etc. I would like him to tone it a bit down. Especially when you are under pressure.

 

[Speedster777]

Its great if he shouts at useless players. Soft approach doesn't work with dheet chamri.

 

[in_cutter]

He has too many passengers in the team. Wahab, Shehzad, Akmal and Hafeez are match losers.

Then why select them in the playing Xl.

The biggest culprit is Inzi the revolutionary

 

[Rayyman]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Kami should be a better role model for the youngsters. If he is giving up, then what will the others think. I am not speaking of the catch, but his attitude towards Sarfraz. Hopefully you take off your TTF tinted glassses and understand what I'm saying.

 

[MMHS]

No,keep guessing.

ZIM, series decider.

But, today he was poor.

 

[Speedster777]

Then why select them?

to be fair he did get rid of hafeez from t20 and tanvir was dropped in the last match.

 

[in_cutter]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Kami is a disgrace

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Your love for Kami is reaching disturbing proportions.

I worry for you when it all comes crashing down soon against better teams and other pitches.

 

[Hawkeye]

Your love for Kami is reaching disturbing proportions.

I worry for you when it all comes crashing down soon against better teams and other pitches.

Nope, no love for Kami.

Only the decent performances.

How about other players failing vs. better teams? Have you looked at other 1 dimensional strike rotators who can't buy any runs against good teams?

I'll criticize Kami or anyone else if they fail and don't match my high criteria of a good LOI batsman.

You don't.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Nope, no love for Kami.

Only the decent performances.

How about other players failing vs. better teams? Have you looked at other 1 dimensional strike rotators who can't buy any runs against good teams?

I'll criticize Kami or anyone else if they fail and don't match my high criteria of a good LOI batsman.

You don't.

Well since your bubble is built on PSL and domestic performances and my bubble is based on him averaging 26 in his prime, you'll have to forgive me for not sharing your enthusiasm.

But a kind warning.

You won't be leaping up for joy when Kami plays better teams. Infact, you might be siding with the same bandwagon you criticize for not supporting Kami.

We get it. He looks good to each. But its not a modeling competition. And when the times get tough he only averages a pittance more than Afridi even at his best.

Is he really going to become a marvel?

Only in your world.

 

[MMHS]

More than exciting, I hear Tik tok, tik tok ..... tik tok. I am almost certain who'll lead PAK in 2019 WC - let Misbah settle in PCB first..............

 

[Pete Rose]

More than exciting, I hear Tik tok, tik tok ..... tik tok. I am almost certain who'll lead PAK in 2019 WC - let Misbah settle in PCB first..............

He will be out

 

[srh]

although I feel vindicated about Sarfraz's captaincy but I am feeling sorry for him too. his unfair treatment to juniors (first Fakhar Zaman and then Babar Azam) has come back quickly to bite him. getting abused by Kami must be the lowest point of any cricketer's career and I am sorry that Sarfraz got it but it is all because of his own wrong doings. if he was fair to juniors and respect the game then this would not have happen.
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

 

[srh]

More than exciting, I hear Tik tok, tik tok ..... tik tok. I am almost certain who'll lead PAK in 2019 WC - let Misbah settle in PCB first..............

He will be out

if somebody did not talk sense into him then he will be out very soon; kami is probably already thinking about getting the WK job back

 

[PakLFC]

We need to give him time. It is not Sarfraz's fault that we have no big hitters in the side. As a keep he will not be able to advise the bowlers where to bowl. N

 

[Square Drive]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Did Kamran actually do that? [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

 

[Syed1]

Did Kamran actually do that? [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

I don't know I missed that part, but couple of posters are saying it so it must have happened.

 

[Hawkeye]

Did Kamran actually do that? [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION]

Ball 45.2 . Search for highlights.

Kami was swearing but not sure if at Sarfraz or what. )

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Well since your bubble is built on PSL and domestic performances and my bubble is based on him averaging 26 in his prime, you'll have to forgive me for not sharing your enthusiasm.

But a kind warning.

You won't be leaping up for joy when Kami plays better teams. Infact, you might be siding with the same bandwagon you criticize for not supporting Kami.

We get it. He looks good to each. But its not a modeling competition. And when the times get tough he only averages a pittance more than Afridi even at his best.

Is he really going to become a marvel?

Only in your world.

And with this, there were no more replies...............

Beautiful Doc

 

[Hawkeye]

And with this, there were no more replies...............

Beautiful Doc

No reply is needed for a factually incorrect delusional post by [MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION] .

He's our top bat after his come back, the only one scoring with a decent strike rate. Kami is no marvel, he's just better than other 90s mindset batsmen we have who are accumulators and "strike rotators".

It's the blind bias and hate which stops people from accepting it. You folks need to learn from [MENTION=57355]pakistanigoneaussie[/MENTION] .

 

[Syed1]

No reply is needed for a factually incorrect delusional post by [MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION] .

He's our top bat after his come back, the only one scoring with a decent strike rate. Kami is no marvel, he's just better than other 90s mindset batsmen we have who are accumulators and "strike rotators".

It's the blind bias and hate which stops people from accepting it. You folks need to learn from [MENTION=57355]pakistanigoneaussie[/MENTION] .

Haan haan har cheez jis se agree nahi kartay woh factually incorrect hoti hai.

Only you are right, the rest are factually incorrect.

 

[aloo paratha]

His team had home advantage.

And Sharjeel advantage, plus he didn't have to deal with Shehzad or Hafeez.

 

[imran1976]

I have lost the passion for our cricket team --- sending Hafeez at 3 tells about the sorry state of our cricket.

 

[Big Mac]

One match and the knives are out. I wonder where was this criticism when Misbah and Azhar were floundering our side all the way to number nine in the rankings.

Brilliant point, Misbah and Azhar never received anything but unanimous praise.

 

[Hawkeye]

Brilliant point, Misbah and Azhar never received anything but unanimous praise.

That's savage loool.

That post is coming from the guy who's sole purpose on PP has been to badmouth Misbah/Azhar.

With the way things are right now re. Sarf, I'm not seeing much of an upgrade over Azhar. In fact he uses bizarre lineups - not lettting Shadab bat, demoting Babar Azam etc.

 

[Hasan123]

One match and the knives are out. I wonder where was this criticism when Misbah and Azhar were floundering our side all the way to number nine in the rankings.

There was plenty of criticism for Azhar and Misbah.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

@ OP

Lesson for life: Don't take things on cricket forum so seriously.

This is what i wrote in Misbah retirement thread:
"Not a fan but all the best
Exciting times ahead for Pak cricket"

seems like you got so hurt that you have tried to bash us atleast 5 times using the word Misbah haters etc and even now made a thread on it. I dont see any disrespect for Misbah in my comments. Its just an opinion. People can have diffrent opinions learn to respect them rather then attacking them.

You have criticized Hafeez and i don't see anyone making thread based on your comments. Also its the first match of Sarfi's captaincy and we Sarfi fans have already criticized him for some horrible decisions. Hope he learns from them.
[MENTION=217]in_cutter[/MENTION]

 

[Watsupdoc]

One loss and it's as if the world has come an end

Yes Sarfraz panicked yesterday, but he'll learn from this.

 

[Pakpak]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Disgusting post, had a player behaved like this with Misbah you'd been crying like a toddler here.

''Kami'' should spend his time trying to perform, but then again must be hard for him considering how he's been an unmitigated disaster all his career.

 

[last_knight]

More than exciting, I hear Tik tok, tik tok ..... tik tok. I am almost certain who'll lead PAK in 2019 WC - let Misbah settle in PCB first..............

You are not alone.

And Inzi is already there to safeguard the....

How he manages to do this is just beyond me.

 

[dildildalwalla]

While I don't want to troll, there's a lot more to captaincy than looking at body language to determine who would do better. It's a fact of life, everyone has a plan until they are punched in the face - Says Mr Tyson.
Sarfaraz got punched in the face today

and he didnt have a plan lol

the guy floundered, screamed, waved his hands, forgot some of his bowlers....it was really bad from him and something I've mentioned about him before. Mentally he isn't mature enough for the captaincy.

Having said that, let's see how this series goes before we burn him at the stake lol

 

[in_cutter]

@ OP

Lesson for life: Don't take things on cricket forum so seriously.

This is what i wrote in Misbah retirement thread:
"Not a fan but all the best
Exciting times ahead for Pak cricket"

seems like you got so hurt that you have tried to bash us atleast 5 times using the word Misbah haters etc and even now made a thread on it. I dont see any disrespect for Misbah in my comments. Its just an opinion. People can have diffrent opinions learn to respect them rather then attacking them.

You have criticized Hafeez and i don't see anyone making thread based on your comments. Also its the first match of Sarfi's captaincy and we Sarfi fans have already criticized him for some horrible decisions. Hope he learns from them.
[MENTION=217]in_cutter[/MENTION]

Did I mention you?! NO!

If you are happy with what you witnessed yestreday then good luck. Let me tell you one thing...TTF's have sealed their spots for CT17 thanks to think thank. Sarfaraz had NO control.

 

[nitrous]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Lol, is there a video footage for this? Would love to see it hahaha

 

[MMHS]

You are not alone.

And Inzi is already there to safeguard the....

How he manages to do this is just beyond me.

WK as Captain can work at most in T20.

Take yesterday's match - whatever Sarfraz did was almost perfect as WK - chattering, keeping players on toes, sledging ... this is good for a WK, but not for a Captain, who needs far more concentration. Besides, he took an edge on half volley because he was standing 2 yards too far, missed a stumping of a full toss, twice couldn't even reach a genuine edge, because he is too slow to react as a WK AND, above all, he is a misfit in ODI side to bat at 6.

It might end up PAK playing under Sarfu as specialist bat & a WK is keeping.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Also is anyone annoyed by Sarfraz calling Hasan Ali Shabash beta. for someone to call y beta in a team if not the coach is like aaarrggghhh

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Lol, is there a video footage for this? Would love to see it hahaha

I also haven't seen it.

 

[phoenix363]

Also is anyone annoyed by Sarfraz calling Hasan Ali Shabash beta. for someone to call y beta in a team if not the coach is like aaarrggghhh

Wow, people really like to find things to complain about

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Wow, people really like to find things to complain about

that is really annoying actually when he thinks himself too high to call his teammate a son who is only 6 years younger ...

 

[Syed1]

that is really annoying actually when he thinks himself too high to call his teammate a son who is only 6 years younger ...

He calls Imad beta sometimes too even though both are same age, its just a figure of speech

 

[Pakpak]

He calls Imad beta sometimes too even though both are same age, its just a figure of speech

Hawkeye above calling 'Kami' a batsman with modern day ability. In the last T20i he played 17 dots out of 22 balls. In this ODI with Shehzad they had 75% dots together and could not string a single together. Out of 48 balls Kamran faced 31 balls were dots. Modern day batsman only in his delusional world.

 

[Syed1]

Hawkeye above calling 'Kami' a batsman with modern day ability. In the last T20i he played 17 dots out of 22 balls. In this ODI with Shehzad they had 75% dots together and could not string a single together. Out of 48 balls Kamran faced 31 balls were dots. Modern day batsman only in his delusional world.

I've stopped arguing with folks who disregard stats as "factually incorrect".

 

[ask_analyse_act]

He calls Imad beta sometimes too even though both are same age, its just a figure of speech

i didnt notice that... but ysday in the match have u noticed him talking to babar who was padded up before the first wicket ... Sarfraz babar and wahab were sitting together looks like sarfraz was saying something to babar. Not sure if he is trying to convince him to give his spot to hafeez for this match or series or whatever..

My problem was babar losing his no.3 spot to hafeez more than losing the match... what kinda player development are they doing really dont understand

 

[Pakpak]

I've stopped arguing with folks who disregard stats as "factually incorrect".

The gall is unbelievable. Laughing at failed, useless players swearing at our captain yet this guy throws a hissy fit if anyone here questions anything Misbah says (much less cuss him).

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Hawkeye above calling 'Kami' a batsman with modern day ability. In the last T20i he played 17 dots out of 22 balls. In this ODI with Shehzad they had 75% dots together and could not string a single together. Out of 48 balls Kamran faced 31 balls were dots. Modern day batsman only in his delusional world.

if we calculate the amount of dot balls played by hafeez, shehzad and kamran that will cover the 90% of dots made in the entire match surprisingly shehzad will have a less number of dots among them...

 

[Pakpak]

if we calculate the amount of dot balls played by hafeez, shehzad and kamran that will cover the 90% of dots made in the entire match surprisingly shehzad will have a less number of dots among them...

The point is, none of them are the modern ODIs bat that we need badly. Much less Kamran. tuk tuking 80% of your deliveries and hitting 4s is useless. 000400 is what these guys do every over, hence our dismal 4-5 run rate till 40 overs.

 

[Poutine]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Wait, so in Pakistan's cricket culture, it's considered a good thing to hurl abuse at the captain? Lol no wonder the team is a borderline minnow.

 

[Poutine]

Disgusting post, had a player behaved like this with Misbah you'd been crying like a toddler here.

''Kami'' should spend his time trying to perform, but then again must be hard for him considering how he's been an unmitigated disaster all his career.

Thats not fair, [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] is not a hypocrite, he would also laugh and cheer if a fielder swore at Misbah, wouldn't you Hawkeye?

 

[Square Drive]

I don't know I missed that part, but couple of posters are saying it so it must have happened.

Ball 45.2 . Search for highlights.

Kami was swearing but not sure if at Sarfraz or what. )

Absolutely disgusting if true.

Any player who can't respect the captain, regardless of who the captain is, should be reprimanded.

 

[Bilal7]

Yeah.

He was shouting at Kami too when a ball went to third man, wasn't a catch at all but was still shouting.

Kamran responded by swearing all over him with the *B* word. ) )

I'm so glad Kami showed this "aggression pretender" on how to behave.

Hope Kamran gets dropped immediately for this sort of insolent behavior. No wonder everyone hates his guts. Is there a video for this?