Saudi Arabia football team fail to join Australia in minute's silence for London terror victims

[CricketCartoons]

No entirely true . Do you remember what happened during the Mumbai attacks ? any such incidents for that matter .

yes, I remember how Indians wanted to call it their 9/11 and associate themselves with the usa as common victims of terrorism. I also recall how train bombings a few years ago didnt cause outrage among the celebrities as the attack on the taj hotel.

 

[jusarrived]

yes, I remember how Indians wanted to call it their 9/11 and associate themselves with the usa as common victims of terrorism. I also recall how train bombings a few years ago didnt cause outrage among the celebrities as the attack on the taj hotel.

So your argument is based on how the likes of SRK or Hrithik Roshan reacted ?

FYI its the Indian media which called it out 9/11 .
I was in Mumbai back then and no one really cared about what the west said about those attacks .

 

[CricketCartoons]

So your argument is based on how the likes of SRK or Hrithik Roshan reacted ?

FYI its the Indian media which called it out 9/11 .
I was in Mumbai back then and no one really cared about what the west said about those attacks .

What are you arguing for/against?

 

[jusarrived]

What are you arguing for/against?

against your claim that such an Incident losing indian lives would be shrugged off as nothing in India .

 

[KingKhanWC]

against your claim that such an Incident losing indian lives would be shrugged off as nothing in India .

When Indian troops die why isn't there a minute silence in the next domestic or international cricket match?

 

[jusarrived]

When Indian troops die why isn't there a minute silence in the next domestic or international cricket match?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/image/221538.html?object=36054;dir=next

This is from 2005 .

 

[jusarrived]

And heres one for Peshawar attacks .

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...-terror-says-narendra-modi/article6698431.ece

 

[KingKhanWC]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/image/221538.html?object=36054;dir=next

This is from 2005 .

So it was a one off and not for soldiers dying but earthquake victims. Thanks for the info.

 

[CricketCartoons]

against your claim that such an Incident losing indian lives would be shrugged off as nothing in India .

You should have read carefully. I talked about people being killed by the state.

 

[jusarrived]

So it was a one off and not for soldiers dying but earthquake victims. Thanks for the info.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/team-india-pays-homage-to-2611-victims-1594576

Before Kanpur test , no please dont ask me for a T20 or ODI match . Type in the key words am sure you will find what you are looking for .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not really . The case is more about muslims themselves not valuing life of their own .

Roles reversed , you think the Ozs would do the same if a minutes silence was observed for lets say for dead in a terror attack in Pakistan ? I really dont think so , but the chances of Saudis observing silence for Pakistanis is closer to zero .

You are right, there are no Saudis here to show concern on this thread, but just look at how many Indians are on here to inform the Pakistanis of their Muslim brothers failings.

It almost makes me forget what they were supposed to be observing the silence for I am so outraged at the behaviour of this vile and bigoted nation.

 

[PakLFC]

Moronic comment.

1. Australia has a hell of a lot more in common with the west than the west does with the east, hence they share a closer bond and thus closer allegiances and ties. Also, two australians died apparently, so naturally they want to pay their respects.

2. If a western country were playing in the east in Iraq or wherever and were asked you can be damn sure they'd observe a minutes silence.

Absolutely pathetic attitude by the Saudis this. Despicable stuff. Only thing worse is the people defending it.

Don't talk like a fool! Doesn't matter that the Aussies have common things with Europe. The point is when people are killed in Muslim countries no one in the west does any minutes silence for them even though they are often killed by NATO and western forces. There is no reason fir Saudis to stand up for the Londoners who were killed. With so many people dying every day die to wars and terrorists attacks we cant pick and choose who we should or should not stand for. Western blood is no more valuable then eastern blood.

 

[PakLFC]

What a terrible statement but not unexpected.

There is nothing terrible about it. You cant answer the question so take the easy way out by calling my comment "terrible". Why don't you stand up for all the Afghans and Iraqis etc that are killed in war?

 

[Third_Umpire]

Don't talk like a fool! Doesn't matter that the Aussies have common things with Europe. The point is when people are killed in Muslim countries no one in the west does any minutes silence for them even though they are often killed by NATO and western forces. There is no reason fir Saudis to stand up for the Londoners who were killed. With so many people dying every day die to wars and terrorists attacks we cant pick and choose who we should or should not stand for. Western blood is no more valuable then eastern blood.

Nonsense post.

Muslim countries should also call for observance of silence to mourn their losses. And when they do so, if any westerners don't respect that, then you'll have a point.

Right now, Saudi players are ignorant bigots for not showing respect to the dead in London. It is not Australia footballs job to hold a minute silence for every loss of life around the world...the ones they are mourning can at least be shown some decency by these savage Saudis.

 

[PakLFC]

Nonsense post.

Muslim countries should also call for observance of silence to mourn their losses. And when they do so, if any westerners don't respect that, then you'll have a point.

Right now, Saudi players are ignorant bigots for not showing respect to the dead in London. It is not Australia footballs job to hold a minute silence for every loss of life around the world...the ones they are mourning can at least be shown some decency by these savage Saudis.

Don't be silly! The point is not what Muslim countries should or should not do but why should they stand up for western victims of terrorism when they never do that for Muslim or Eastern countries?. You are only exposing your inferiority complex. If Muslim countries refuse to mourn their own than that is no one else's business. Let me see Football stadiums go silent for victims of terrorists killed in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen or even India. I am no fan of the Saudis at all but here its a matter of principle. Western blood and lives are no more or less important then eastern or other ones. It has nothing to do with religion at all.

 

[enkidu_]

Observing a minute of silence is not an universal cultural norm, I'm not sure it's observed in the Middle East. I think it's more a case of honest ignorance than sheer malignancy.

 

[majiz]

pretty skeptical of this whole not my ''''culture''' thing, an ounce of empathy means you adapt to other people's culture and respect the dead, wonder if it's not their culture because a large part of their culture is terrorism, tbh

 

[enkidu_]

pretty skeptical of this whole not my ''''culture''' thing, an ounce of empathy means you adapt to other people's culture and respect the dead, wonder if it's not their culture because a large part of their culture is terrorism, tbh

Saudis are noobs compared to Anglo Americans when it comes to culture of terrorism.

 

[majiz]

Saudis are noobs compared to Anglo Americans when it comes to culture of terrorism.

you might be right but when i think of what america has contributed to the world compared to saudi arabia i'm not sure it matters. saudi arabia is a terribly failed state who unfortunately just happen to be sitting on lots of oil

 

[enkidu_]

you might be right but when i think of what america has contributed to the world compared to saudi arabia i'm not sure it matters. saudi arabia is a terribly failed state who unfortunately just happen to be sitting on lots of oil

China, India, Egypt ... were contributing to the world for thousands of years when the ancestors of the Americans were roaming in the woods of cold Europe clothed with wild beasts' remains who were so "uncivilized" that the greatest of the Latin prose-writers, Cicero, in an epistolary exchange, told his friend to not take them as slaves, so much they were unable to learn. Yet I don't think you would have supported Rome fighting ("pacifying") them ?

Also all Semites - who built some of the world's first and most influential civilizations - ultimately come from Arabia (Akkadians from the southern parts, Phoenicians from the eastern part, etc), so they can get some credit there.

And oil is of course essential to world economy.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Don't be silly! The point is not what Muslim countries should or should not do but why should they stand up for western victims of terrorism when they never do that for Muslim or Eastern countries?. You are only exposing your inferiority complex. If Muslim countries refuse to mourn their own than that is no one else's business. Let me see Football stadiums go silent for victims of terrorists killed in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen or even India. I am no fan of the Saudis at all but here its a matter of principle. Western blood and lives are no more or less important then eastern or other ones. It has nothing to do with religion at all.

The point is very simple. Saudi Arabia football team just needed to show decency and respect for one minute (I know that's asking a lot of them). And they didn't.

You are the one who brought up what happens when Muslims die, western blood vs eastern, etc.

There is no good justification for why Saudis were so inconsiderate and moronic. Better you stop defending then befor digging your hole deeper.

 

[Gilly]

There is a lot of garbage posted here. If the australian victims were or are muslim nothing would have changed there still would have been a minutes silence. Australia have always mourned their citizens killed in unusual circumstances with a minutes silence, if other countries don't do the same then that is not a reason for Australia to stop. There is nothing political about it at all, it is a way to pay respect for the fallen and to let their family know that the nation grieves with them.

No one has to be a part of the minutes silence, its up to the individual to decide if they want to pray, just observe the minutes silence or ignore it all together.

We as a nation join together to pay our respects to a fellow citizen/s that has fallen, it is one of us that has fallen and we rally not for politics, religion or wealth but for the mother, father, sister, brother, workmate, community member. No we don't do it when its a American, Indian, Pakistani or any other country but we will at all times join them if they pay their respects to their fallen.

You are indeed a very desperate person to bring politics or religion into it.

 

[PakLFC]

The point is very simple. Saudi Arabia football team just needed to show decency and respect for one minute (I know that's asking a lot of them). And they didn't.

You are the one who brought up what happens when Muslims die, western blood vs eastern, etc.

There is no good justification for why Saudis were so inconsiderate and moronic. Better you stop defending then befor digging your hole deeper.

So what if I bought up east and west?. My point is simple that you can't pick and choose for whom you do a minute's silence. I don't care about digging holes and always stand by what I say. What you on about "when Muslim's die"? It has nothing to do with Saudi's or any nationality. If one country does not stand up for the other then why should the second one? If the American's do not stand up for British victims of terrorism then I won't do so for them either. Get over your obsession with how awful the Saudi's are as if I don't already know.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Cosmetic sympathy is the worse kind of sympathy. Unfortunately, Cosmetic sympathy has become the norm.

I think you are being too harsh. Millennials have a short attention span, so it is very much possible that they mean it when they type away RIP messages and the very next moment are checking out the latest pop culture sensation.

 

[Madplayer]

A minute's silence is not even a big deal. Really poor from the saudis in this case.

I personally dont think these 1 minute silences make a difference or send a good message. They are purely political in nature given their selective use by nations. Mostly its the developed countries observing it for other developed countries giving you an impression that people in poorer parts of the world are meant to die the way they do in terrorist attacks. Thats not a message i would like to give to other humans of the world.